Buried less than 3 miles from San Diego, lie California's oldest original lost European ruins.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2024
- The original lost chapel of Mission San Diego de Alcala..
On an unassuming hillside just three miles from downtown San Diego, the oldest European ruins in modern day California lie intentionally buried under the San Diego Presidio.
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I always enjoy a good San Diego history video.5.8k views but only 180 subscribers?! Let's grow this channel! 181. ✌
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Hello, I'm 10th generation Californian. My great, great great, grandfather was originally from England who came to California around the 1820s and married a Spanish land grant heiress from the De La Guerra family. His name was William Hartnell. Richard Henery Dana was visiting California at the time when my great, great, great, grandparents got married. Their wedding influenced the author mentioning their wedding in his book Two Years Before the Mast. My great, great, great, grandmother's family was part of the expedition of De Portola, and the expedition of the founding of San Fransico. One of them was the first governor of California. They family ranch is still standing in Santa Barabra now in the heart of China town. The ranch became a museum. However, originally the ranch was a lot larger, so part of it is still standing. At one point, William Hartnell had a job checking on all of the missions to make sure funds were not being abused by the missions. Then at another point, he started the first school in California, but it closed because it didn't do well. Hartnell was involved in the California Constitution, because he spoke 5 languages. Also, the negations with Russia, diplomatic talks with Fremont, and Sherman. That is the tip of the iceberg of the historical figures I'm related to and events from early California. We have native background in our family as well. Your video is awesome! I never been to that mission sight! One of these days I need to check it out. Best Wishes!
Thank you for your story. Before 1848 California was so isolated, that many of the few people that were here didn't even know they were distantly related.. I hope you are still here.
Hartnell College in Salinas is named after your ancestor, and lately locals have been wanting to change the name. Nice to know there’s a living descendant. 😊
Thats REALLY cool that you know so much of your familys history! You should pass these stories on to any of your younger relatives!!
Before the age of ten, we had Sunday picnics in Presidio Park on top of the ruins before they excavated the site. It was bumpy little hills and we'd run down as fast as we could. We explored the whole park. Good memories!
San Diego is nice. I wish I grew up here......
Lived in San Diego over 40 years. Came to the site many times.
Great presentation.
Well done.
A Man of antiquity and good taste.
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I WAS STATIONED at the oldest continusly occupied fort in usa-
THE Prec8do of San Franc8sco, california.,
Where my ancestors came to in 1849.
Via whaleboat.
Wow, That was my first choice, I was an MP at Ft Campbell. I joined the army to travel and they sent me to Kentucky.... LOL . Your service.... Thank you.
This makes me miss living in San Diego, I first moved there in 1991 when I was 19 years old. It was more affordable to live back then but still a great place to live.
I moved to San Diego, when I was 19 too, but in 1996, lol
@@MLCDelux my first abode after leaving home was a 2 bedroom place which I shared with 90 other guys. And, they paid me to live there. 😜
Mission San Antonia De Padua dates 1771 and is intact and open for visits and overnight rooms are available. The olive tree in front of the bell tower was planted c. 1875 and is alive and well and much larger. The original clay roof was replaced about 3 yrs ago, I happened to visit when huge amounts of new tiles were on the roof and used ones on pallets on the ground. I wonder what 200+ yr old tiles are worth. San Diego Mission, Minute 1:25 -ish:: In the 1950's there were maybe 10 large humps on the ground, maybe 3-4 feet high, along the road side. we would do summersaults on them as kids. My grandfather lived up the road about 1/2 mile on Arista. We lived over looking Mission Bay.
I am a history buff, over 30 yrs in reinactments, You did a grate job in laying out the history there...
Sincerely , Thank you.
Fourth generation san diego native here"
Born raised and will die.
This is 2000 feet from my house....
Politics aside, I'ts an amazing place I'm very fortunate the real estate prices were pushed back to 1979 during the 2008- 2011 recession.
4:30 - Exactly, and I'm glad you said that. Although I never knew about the real chapel being somewhere else ( thank you! ) I have visited this site before and wondered how they kilned bricks and tiles that weren't common here until the mid 1800's. They couldn't have. Their construction methods would have been as rudimentary as (a) whatever tools they had on the boat, (b) whatever resources were available on land, and (c) technical knowledge available to them at the time. When you showed the site of the original ruins it made sense. Look at the 1945 discovery of the pyramid of Xian. Everyone thought it was a mountain until you looked at it from the air and saw it was a structure overgrown by the jungle. Same thing applies here. Those symmetrical rows of land don't happen naturally, they were something very old.
Originally very rudimentary construction as they had arrived by land with the military escort. It was only the site of the mission for about 4 years. It was then moved to behind Home Depot in Mission Valley.
I used to do electrical work for the Marston's on there old mansion and carriage house at Balboa Park, years ago, I know ever inch of that property. Truly lovely people.
As far as staff , This place and the Coronado Beach Hotel. Both First class.
Excellent job! I am a local and visit as often as I can.
Sincerely, Thank you.
Cool video. There’s no “a” in “Junipero” by the way. “Who-ni-pair-o”
I am really surprised at how many people know how to pronounce his name.
Twelve years of Catholic school will sear it into your brain. lol
This was an interesting video. I'm not sure about that wall being original, but it could be. Wow, that graveyard register lists a lot of people. GPR scan would answer some questions about the original layout of the buildings and walls.
That wall is not original. In the early 1900's the coach at San Diego High School would have his football team knock over the original chapel walls to toughen them up. This "Chapel" is actually the original location of the Mission Basilica San Diego de Alcalá. The modern presidio building is not an attempt to recreate the original chapel. It was just built in the old style.
Then why does it look like a church? LOL......Thank you , Yes, it's the original church, chapel etc........You seem pretty informed pertaining to San Diego Spanish history. You should make a video.
@@stevenseguro Spanish Revival is the answer. I could make 1000 videos. I'd rather take one or two folks on a hike and tell them in person.
@@madcolor Thank you for the great stories and the likes. Do you have any more antidotes pertaining to San Diego.?
I visited the ruins while in the Navy in the early 1970s. Just mounds. Not too far from Mission San Diego.
If I was stationed in California I would have definetly stayed after separation. The Army sent me to Kentucky......LOL
Thank you for your curiosity and research. We’re planning to see it tomorrow.
I bet you will have it to yourself. It's a great place.
Great vid brother but I've got to set you strait on how to Pronounce Padre Serra's name. It is Who nee perro Serra. This is the correct Spanish pronunciation. 🙂
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I just came upon your video. I am from Orange County and love to visit San Diego. I will have to visit the location that you are talking about...I didn't know this existed. You said you move to California, may I ask where are you from? Are you going to host more video's??
Thank you for posting!
Hello, Thank you for asking. Yes, There is a lot of technical stuff to navigate when putting even this simple stuff together. I'm learning. I like sharing my thoughts and I'm fortunate to live in San Diego. (15 years)
This is the California I was looking for when I moved to Los Angeles almost 40 years ago.
Russian fur hunters made it as far south as the Channel Islands.
That explains a lot of things, Thank you.
Thanks for this history lesson.
Good to know! Thank you!
Thank you.
Nice, I will check it out. Thanks for sharing
Very interesting! Thank you for this!
California *REALLY* likes naming things after Junipero Serra. There are a load of locations in the Bay Area named after him.
Yeah it's true, maybe only second to Jaun Cabrillo. Take care.
Very nice video! I appreciate you time and research. Thank You
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Well done! Subscribed!
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Great video
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Hot? 😂 I live a mile from Old Town in Ocean Beach, San Diego, and this summer was quite cool actually
Well You have the Marine layer, It starts to burn off pretty quick once you get a little bit inland.
As I remember Mission San Gabriel Archangel was founded in 1771.
The succession went pretty quick, Many coastal Missions were founded . About 52 years total. By 1821 it was all over.
I remember when they were excavating that area in the 80’s.
II was living in LA in the 80's, I would have liked to have witnessed the excavations.
Wow I just learned a lot and I have lived here my whole life..
Sincerely, thank you for the kind words.
Interesting! May I suggest, you learn the proper pronunciation of Junipero
Yes ,I I have now...... Thank you.
Junipero, not Juanipero. Pronounced 'hoonipero'
Do you mean the ‘oo’ vowel sounds, or the “long ‘u’ ?
@@stevenseguro like who too. ¿Sîmon, no?
Let me be the 300th one to correct your pronouncing of Junípero. It’s hoo-knee-pedo. With that said AWESOME VIDEO
There were some bones found at this presidio site way back when (that means I can’t remember the date) and it was a bit controversial. You see, it was discovered that the bones were Native Americans. So plans were being made to repatriate the bones to the tribe out by Campo until someone said WAIT! Why would Natives be buried at the presidio?, they would be buried at the mission up the canyon. After researching the situation, it was concluded that the Native Americans were “soldados de real presidio” iow “spanish soldiers stationed at the presidio who also happened to be brothers.
I've read that there was a lot of clashing and violence there in the first few months of occupation.
You're pronouncing Junipero Serra incorrectly. You should also visit SanJuan Capistrano. It has the oldest standing church in the state. Interesting video, thank you.
IHello, do you mean the double ‘oo’ vowel sounds, or the shor /uː/ (as in “moon”). ?
@@stevenseguro you were pronouncing Junipero as juanipero! Not Juan, whonipero. In pronunciation, you can verify that. Don’t like to be critical, decent video otherwise
@@sfbfriend Thank you, I've volunteered at San Juan Capistrano for many years.
You pronounce Junipero Serra all wrong bud.
I've been told. Where did everyone learn how to pronounce Junípero Serra?
Thank you for all the likes and your contribution. Is the correct pronunciation the double ‘oo’ vowel sound, or the the “long ‘u’?