Megatronous from this new continuity, as far I understand, had not become the Fallen. As seen in Trion’s vision, Megatronous stood with his brothers against the Quintesson ambush.
Maybe they could make this an example of how a symbol can be distorted and twisted into something it wasn’t. Megatronus fought alongside the Primes and was the strongest, but maybe Megatron idolized him and his strength so much that he made his logo that of the Decepticons, not knowing that Megatronus was nothing like the Decepticons
@@khursheedahmed4213I did. Any it only confirms my belief. Symbols are often hijacked by extremists and distorted into a different meaning. Megatronus’ face being the Decepticon logo and D16’s admiration for him prove my point as a symbol of strength
I love that they kept Vector Prime's design somewhat consistent with the original Cybertron design. It's a classic and I wouldn't have had it any other way.
Remember the T-cogs that Orion Pax, D-16, Elita, and Bee received Orion - Prima ( remember in prime where Optimus Prime pulled out the Star Saber as he is deemed worthy of wielding the sword of the “Warrior of Light” and later in the movie he became worthy of a true prime) D-16 - Onyx (Onyx is a powerful but yet unpredictable and dangerous warrior who fights like a beast, the way D-16 fights, he’s more ruthless and powerful as his anger and rage grows leading him to killing Sentinel and becoming Megatron) Elita - Alchemist ( if Alchemist has the ability manipulate element power and alchemy and their role is a spiritual guide of the universe. Does that mean Elita will discover her ability to stop time in the sequel just like G1 cartoon and from War for Cybertron Netflix series) Bee - Micronus (Despite being the smallest, he’s fast and cunning who always got your back. He is also known as one of the light-hearted and has a great bond with smaller beings. Why else would Bumblebee spends the most time with humans in previous movies and cartoons, he’s one of the bravest and sweetest Autobot to fight and protect their friends )
Interesting that they took Zeta and put him into the "13th Slot" this time. It was also nice to see the Primes as friends after seeing how things went for them in the Aligned Version.
Right!? I feel like TFO was a step in the right direction, now I just wish for a similar style film about the 13 so we can see just how different or similar their story is to the Aligned continuity.
Prima traditionally is the one who wields the Matrix of Leadership and is the leader of the 13 Primes and Megatronus Prime is the one who betrays the Primes due to Liege Maximo manipulating him and becomes the Fallen and founded the Decepticons.
I just hope that in some form of media we get to learn more about the TFO 13 primes...just to see how different their own history is from what we have previously been shown in the past.
I think I prefer the continuity where they all had their flaws, some more then others but in the end they were primes and came together in their final moments to defend their home. why else would Primus had created them to guide cybertron into an age of peace and prosperity if some were gonna end up causing unnecessary problems.
I love that they reverted back to Vector Prime's original design template. It was iconic and should remain roughly the same henceforth, in the same way Optimus Prime and Megatron always have the same general design template.
Man, with how Megatron loved Megatronus, Tarn would definitely go out of his way to wear Megatronus' mask to follow on the Decepticon leader's intricacies...well, that's if Tarn were to exist in this new timeline.
@@nickter745thebold8 a Decepticon who literally has his face designed like the Decepticon logo. Commands a group called the Decepticon Justice Division, transforms into a tank, has 2 fusion cannons as primary weapon, loves transforming so much he keeps getting his T-Cog replaced. Edit: he's also a huge Megatron fanboy. You can find him in the IDW G1 continuity, the one with Autobot Megatron, not Senator Megatron. (I had to make that distinction as there's two major Transformers continuities published by IDW comics).
3:45 I remember there was an Aligned continuity novel about the Mutacons who are a faction of Cybertronians that got turned into Space T-1000 after they were affected by Amalgamous Prime's T-Cog. And they're led by Mercury who briefly bonds with Optimus Prime and finds Megatron's Peace Through Tyranny a big joke.
1:05 Zeta Prime was made a member of the Thirteen Primes because in this continuity, Orion/Optimus is not the reincarnation of the Thirteenth Prime. It would have came off as Orion reclaiming his ancient birthright than a humble bot who is willing to step up and be leader of the Autobots by his own choice.
So true! I also thought it was clever to take the character Sentinel Zeta Prime and split him into two separate characters in TFO. Also ironic that Sentinel is the one that kills Zeta in his attempt to get the Matrix.
@@DerekUpNorth Well, Sentinel and Zeta were always 2 different character, there is a dozen different Transformers continuity and the Aligned continuity is the only one where they are the same being
Since Zeta holds the matrix of leadership I guess that in transformers one he is the first prime created while Prima was born as the 13th prime as Zeta's second in command and his warrior of light.
Primus Creates The 13 Primes including Quintus Prime Quintus Prime Creates The Quintessons The Quintessons declared war on the 13 Primes to Take over Cybertron The 12 Primes, Sentinel and High Guard : 😑😡🤦🏻♂️ Quintus Prime: 🤷🏻 Whoops
You know what would be interesting? If Quintus actually also isn’t a Prime, but stole the spot as another inside man for the Quintessions which Sentinel didn’t know about. (Please Hasbro just let me get my Logos Prime back in the Thirteen…)
5:03 I'm not sure which one, but there's a Transformers continuity where the Liege Maximo was considered the First Decepticon. Might've been the Aligned one. The one where Megatronus was the First Decepticon was the Bayverse.
@@jvbutalid8316 Leige Maximo was in the final panel of the G2 comic and when the Thirteen concept first was developed, he was quickly added in as one of them. In G2 he’s the true of the “Cybertronian Empire” a small group of such the G2 Transformers faced who was lead by Jhaxius. But he’s always been the true leader But even in G2 he was claimed as a huge deal and major threat, and claimed to be an ancient evil. Idr if that specifically calls him the “first Decepticon” but that has been a moniker of his before.
Not so. The Primes are no-longer multiversal singularities in canon. Hasbro changed it a few years back. Now each Prime in each universe is its own character.
Megatronus in TFO are unlike in previous continuity. Because he fought along side the others prime for noble purposes which making him a noble warrior rather than a fallen, which is a good change because in the movie everyone known him as one of the best prime ever existed and D-16 is big fan of him, or rather, he's idolized megatronus.
Ok but what about the rest of the primes that aren’t of the 13. We have Optimus, sentinel, Rodimus prime, Leo convoy, logos prime, autonomous Maximus,,mortilus, epistemus. Just to list a few that I know off the top of my head some I ain’t 100% about specifically the last two depending on what media
Amalgamous Prime is the best, because he looks like Marauder from Mechwarrior and has very unique design in general, not being a typical featherless biped
Megatron appropriating Megatronus's face parallels how Hitler did the same with the swastika when it was originally a Vedic symbol of peace and good luck.
@@Infinite-zero901 I hope a sequel focusing on the autobots and decepticons fighting the Quint properly gives a reason why they weren't immediately defeated. I mean heck! Nexus Prime's enigma of combination, Megatronus' requiem blaster and Prima's star saber should've melted them overnight!
@ProtoAlpha They almost won its just Sentinel ambushed them. Megatronus was doing the most damage. He got distracted which costed him and the other primes.
What’s also noteworthy is in Transformers one Megatronus isn’t depicted as a a noble Warrior fallen from Grace since they have sentinel prime to take the role of the betrayer and I like that for once Megatronus isn’t a bad guy
I'm happy that the 13 primes is brought to mainstream media, but honestly not the biggest fan of TF1's rendition. Didn't like how they fell so easily in the ambush rather than the in-fighting/Prime wars that IDW and Aligned Continuity had. I also kinda liked the larger time/generational gap between the era of the primes up to Orion's ascent to Optimus Prime (with Nova, Zeta, and Sentinel etc. all being predecessors of Optimus). With TF1 the Primes feel kinda like theyre pretty recent, rather than ancient beings told in legends. That's just my take.
This shows how the writers of the movie didn’t give a singular shit about the original 13th zeta nor sentinel. They are one of the last of the primes there has probably been hundreds of them throughout the ages The original 13th primes were god like characters within the lore The fact that sentinel prime killed the original 13th is just physically impossible the nerfing is crazy
"God like" is a huge stretch, the original 13 Primes are demi-gods at best. They could still die from severe injuries (like Solus prime from the aligned continuity, when Megatronus blew a hole in her chest with his blaster).
It's not even 'Prima Prime', just Prima - because he was the first Prime and the first Cybertronian created by Primus. He wielded the Matrix, not Zeta; I don't understand why they did that.
Actually in the TFone megatronus prime wasn't the fallen that time, but it really happens that sentinel betrayed them all and D-16 inspired megatronus, D-16 was the founder of the depecticons so the story is crap off and not canon hasbro said... The movie is so good I want to let see the next part of the movie
Weirdly enough. TFOne is the one instance where Megatronus wasn't a bad guy. But a noble warrior. With a badass design
This could open up a possible new plotline in the future where Megatron resurrects him with dark energon and he becomes The Fallen.
@@Bepisipeb I can see that
He and Prima are considered the warriors of the Primes. Nice to see them not hate each other for once.
@@AdeptKing fr. And seeing Leige Maximo not be a prick
Actually he always was a noble warrior its just Primus made him with the intention of the primes to understand the darkness of unicron
Megatronous from this new continuity, as far I understand, had not become the Fallen. As seen in Trion’s vision, Megatronous stood with his brothers against the Quintesson ambush.
Maybe they could make this an example of how a symbol can be distorted and twisted into something it wasn’t. Megatronus fought alongside the Primes and was the strongest, but maybe Megatron idolized him and his strength so much that he made his logo that of the Decepticons, not knowing that Megatronus was nothing like the Decepticons
@@jacobchildress7921 i think you should see the movie you'll know why d-16 has that logo
@@khursheedahmed4213I did. Any it only confirms my belief. Symbols are often hijacked by extremists and distorted into a different meaning. Megatronus’ face being the Decepticon logo and D16’s admiration for him prove my point as a symbol of strength
@@jacobchildress7921you sure that's his face and not battle mask
The question is: how would Megatronus react to his own face being used by evil people when he wasn’t one in this?
I love that they kept Vector Prime's design somewhat consistent with the original Cybertron design. It's a classic and I wouldn't have had it any other way.
I agree! I would have liked a bit more color...but it's still a really solid design!
Me too
@@nickle2bird hi dude how are you
Remember the T-cogs that Orion Pax, D-16, Elita, and Bee received
Orion - Prima ( remember in prime where Optimus Prime pulled out the Star Saber as he is deemed worthy of wielding the sword of the “Warrior of Light” and later in the movie he became worthy of a true prime)
D-16 - Onyx (Onyx is a powerful but yet unpredictable and dangerous warrior who fights like a beast, the way D-16 fights, he’s more ruthless and powerful as his anger and rage grows leading him to killing Sentinel and becoming Megatron)
Elita - Alchemist ( if Alchemist has the ability manipulate element power and alchemy and their role is a spiritual guide of the universe. Does that mean Elita will discover her ability to stop time in the sequel just like G1 cartoon and from War for Cybertron Netflix series)
Bee - Micronus (Despite being the smallest, he’s fast and cunning who always got your back. He is also known as one of the light-hearted and has a great bond with smaller beings. Why else would Bumblebee spends the most time with humans in previous movies and cartoons, he’s one of the bravest and sweetest Autobot to fight and protect their friends )
Interesting that they took Zeta and put him into the "13th Slot" this time. It was also nice to see the Primes as friends after seeing how things went for them in the Aligned Version.
Right!? I feel like TFO was a step in the right direction, now I just wish for a similar style film about the 13 so we can see just how different or similar their story is to the Aligned continuity.
Prima traditionally is the one who wields the Matrix of Leadership and is the leader of the 13 Primes and Megatronus Prime is the one who betrays the Primes due to Liege Maximo manipulating him and becomes the Fallen and founded the Decepticons.
I just hope that in some form of media we get to learn more about the TFO 13 primes...just to see how different their own history is from what we have previously been shown in the past.
I think I prefer the continuity where they all had their flaws, some more then others but
in the end they were primes and came together in their final moments to defend their home.
why else would Primus had created them to guide cybertron into an age of peace and prosperity
if some were gonna end up causing unnecessary problems.
I think in the Aligned or Prime continuity, Prima's Star Saber actually had the Matrix attached to it when he was around too.
@@bluelightstudios6191 hi dude how are you
@@AdeptKing Ngl it's a sick design for a sword!
I love that they reverted back to Vector Prime's original design template. It was iconic and should remain roughly the same henceforth, in the same way Optimus Prime and Megatron always have the same general design template.
Man, with how Megatron loved Megatronus, Tarn would definitely go out of his way to wear Megatronus' mask to follow on the Decepticon leader's intricacies...well, that's if Tarn were to exist in this new timeline.
Who’s Tarn?
@@nickter745thebold8 a Decepticon who literally has his face designed like the Decepticon logo. Commands a group called the Decepticon Justice Division, transforms into a tank, has 2 fusion cannons as primary weapon, loves transforming so much he keeps getting his T-Cog replaced.
Edit: he's also a huge Megatron fanboy.
You can find him in the IDW G1 continuity, the one with Autobot Megatron, not Senator Megatron. (I had to make that distinction as there's two major Transformers continuities published by IDW comics).
@@nickter745thebold8 hello stormtrooper how are you
It's really cool to hear names like Star Saber, Requiem Blaster and Vector Prime. I am huge fan of Unicron Trilogy (especially Armada).
Hang on, if some of these guys were able to see into the future in some form, couldn't they have known that Sentinel would betray them?
Sentinel had the power of ancient plot armor. Fr tho that’s a good point!
3:45 I remember there was an Aligned continuity novel about the Mutacons who are a faction of Cybertronians that got turned into Space T-1000 after they were affected by Amalgamous Prime's T-Cog.
And they're led by Mercury who briefly bonds with Optimus Prime and finds Megatron's Peace Through Tyranny a big joke.
1:05 Zeta Prime was made a member of the Thirteen Primes because in this continuity, Orion/Optimus is not the reincarnation of the Thirteenth Prime.
It would have came off as Orion reclaiming his ancient birthright than a humble bot who is willing to step up and be leader of the Autobots by his own choice.
So true! I also thought it was clever to take the character Sentinel Zeta Prime and split him into two separate characters in TFO. Also ironic that Sentinel is the one that kills Zeta in his attempt to get the Matrix.
@@DerekUpNorth Well, Sentinel and Zeta were always 2 different character, there is a dozen different Transformers continuity and the Aligned continuity is the only one where they are the same being
Since Zeta holds the matrix of leadership I guess that in transformers one he is the first prime created while Prima was born as the 13th prime as Zeta's second in command and his warrior of light.
Primus Creates The 13 Primes including Quintus Prime
Quintus Prime Creates The Quintessons
The Quintessons declared war on the 13 Primes to Take over Cybertron
The 12 Primes, Sentinel and High Guard : 😑😡🤦🏻♂️
Quintus Prime: 🤷🏻 Whoops
I really wish they would explain this in the sequel (if there are sequels in the future). Like the Quintessons were a big problem for Primes I guess?
@@zafe1142Quintus Prime: I should’ve laid off with the steroids now they fking with us!!
You know what would be interesting? If Quintus actually also isn’t a Prime, but stole the spot as another inside man for the Quintessions which Sentinel didn’t know about.
(Please Hasbro just let me get my Logos Prime back in the Thirteen…)
This video is 🔥 as usual!
5:03 I'm not sure which one, but there's a Transformers continuity where the Liege Maximo was considered the First Decepticon. Might've been the Aligned one. The one where Megatronus was the First Decepticon was the Bayverse.
I thought that was mentioned in G2 from Marvel…
@@Megamanlanprime Liege Max in Marvel had his own faction to lead...or maybe that was Jhiaxus, and Liege Max was just a weird piece of darkness.
@@jvbutalid8316 Leige Maximo was in the final panel of the G2 comic and when the Thirteen concept first was developed, he was quickly added in as one of them. In G2 he’s the true of the “Cybertronian Empire” a small group of such the G2 Transformers faced who was lead by Jhaxius. But he’s always been the true leader
But even in G2 he was claimed as a huge deal and major threat, and claimed to be an ancient evil. Idr if that specifically calls him the “first Decepticon” but that has been a moniker of his before.
6:23 I guess only this variant of Vector Prime is dead while the main Vector Prime and others still live across the Transformers Multiverse.
Not so. The Primes are no-longer multiversal singularities in canon. Hasbro changed it a few years back. Now each Prime in each universe is its own character.
5:15 Nexus Prime looked like a variant of a GM mobile suit that have an energy shield and a powerful beam rifle.
There’s another, my boy Optimus!
With these abilities there's no way that the the primes could have lost. So how can sentinel success in his betrayal?
These descriptions are from aligned continuity, the primes are severly nerfed in the movie hence they lost.
Cuz Sentinel is OP asf
Most likely for plot reasons. I want to say p.i.s. Plot induced stupidity
Megatronus in TFO are unlike in previous continuity. Because he fought along side the others prime for noble purposes which making him a noble warrior rather than a fallen, which is a good change because in the movie everyone known him as one of the best prime ever existed and D-16 is big fan of him, or rather, he's idolized megatronus.
Ok but what about the rest of the primes that aren’t of the 13.
We have Optimus, sentinel, Rodimus prime, Leo convoy, logos prime, autonomous Maximus,,mortilus, epistemus. Just to list a few that I know off the top of my head some I ain’t 100% about specifically the last two depending on what media
If Onyx Prime can see the past, present, future, why/how did he not see the betrayal of Sentinel Prime
It might be random visions or maybe the future changed so he didn't see the betrayal happening.
These descriptions of the 13 seem more like the aligned continuity rather than the one continuity
Amalgamous Prime is the best, because he looks like Marauder from Mechwarrior and has very unique design in general, not being a typical featherless biped
Megatron appropriating Megatronus's face parallels how Hitler did the same with the swastika when it was originally a Vedic symbol of peace and good luck.
In aligned continuity zeta prime is sentinel but in transformers one sentinel and zeta are completely different bots
Solas Prime!
I feel like the original 13 would be a great story to tell as a series or a movie
The Thirteen weren't even that ancient in this movie.
These guys were no better than regular transformers, on paper they should've been able to one shot the entire Quit army😂
@ProtoAlpha Sentinel betrayed them. They were caught off guard. Alpha Triton stated they were winning until they got betrayed.
@@Infinite-zero901 I hope a sequel focusing on the autobots and decepticons fighting the Quint properly gives a reason why they weren't immediately defeated.
I mean heck! Nexus Prime's enigma of combination, Megatronus' requiem blaster and Prima's star saber should've melted them overnight!
@ProtoAlpha They almost won its just Sentinel ambushed them. Megatronus was doing the most damage. He got distracted which costed him and the other primes.
I love these characters! but what if there was a 14th?... and what if Unicron also had his 13 heralds?
I hope the seeding of life is still part of the new lore
Unlike the other primes liege maximo is plain normal just has the most best silver tounge ever
If Onyx could see the future, why didn’t he realize Sentinal was gonna betray them?
What if there is an Transformers Tv or movie Prequel about the thirteen Primes, and the origin of Primus and Unicron and the creation of Cybertron?
My favorite would have to be Onyx Prime.🦅
One thing I don’t get, why Vector Prime’s weapons aren’t called by the name it was originally given - The Risling.
13 prime looks so resemble of digimon royal knights
im guessing this was uploaded before the release of TF ONE?
I love megatronus prime I hope they make a transformers one toy of him
hound from tf4 and 5 really looks like alchemist prime, i really wanna know are they had any contact by any mean
He looks so beastly and strong but his design is just odd I like his old beast design
Where did you get all these informations about them?
Sentinel the prime slayer ;)
Egg on your face.
When the kill feed shows sentinel assassinated the primes xD
I’ve always liked combiners, but after seeing transformers one, I’ve just gained a new liking to nexus
What’s also noteworthy is in Transformers one Megatronus isn’t depicted as a a noble Warrior fallen from Grace since they have sentinel prime to take the role of the betrayer and I like that for once Megatronus isn’t a bad guy
Sentinel actually stole nexus prime’s blaster to indirectly kill Solus, not megatronus
I stop on the Onyx Prime, it said it can seen past and future, but cannot see the Sentinel Plan? I think it’s absurd
I'm happy that the 13 primes is brought to mainstream media, but honestly not the biggest fan of TF1's rendition. Didn't like how they fell so easily in the ambush rather than the in-fighting/Prime wars that IDW and Aligned Continuity had.
I also kinda liked the larger time/generational gap between the era of the primes up to Orion's ascent to Optimus Prime (with Nova, Zeta, and Sentinel etc. all being predecessors of Optimus). With TF1 the Primes feel kinda like theyre pretty recent, rather than ancient beings told in legends. That's just my take.
Had to explain to several people megatronus wasn’t tarn from djd.
really!? I didn't even notice that, but NOW I DO!
Seems like megatron is the strongest of the all if 1 of 13 created a problem that lasted eons
Alpha Trion didn’t see D becoming Megatron?
So one of the 13 Primes made their Alien enemy the Quintessons?
Vector prime first appearance was Transformers: Cybertron the design is identical minus some edits
does anybody notice that sentinel prime has nexus primes shield
I don’t like how they changed zeta to being the wield of the matrix instead of prima
3:01 As far as we're concerned, only in the Allied continuity.
*Aligned
Rodimus the last prime.
What about Alpha Trion?
he's 0:26 seconds into the video... LOL
@DerekUpNorth ok, ty I'll rewatch it. All of this lore with all the multiverses, can get confusing.
I do have to wonder, why does Amalgamous Prime look kind of like Shockwave, but with 4 limbs and no Purple?
dunno, but probably doesn't matter. dude can turn into whatever he wants. if you wish him to, he can look like optimus prime, i guess
Well I'm just never going to wish for that, thank you @@jvbutalid8316.
If some primes can see the future why didn’t they see it coming the betrayal of sentinal
Not all of that is in the lore in the movie transformers one so why did you call the video the 13 primes in transformers one explained?
I'm feeling Sad for solus prime, She was died by his Own Invention.😂😂😂
Bro reading the character description and made a video out of it
Amir just learned how repurposing information works. Good job 👍🏻
This shows how the writers of the movie didn’t give a singular shit about the original 13th zeta nor sentinel. They are one of the last of the primes there has probably been hundreds of them throughout the ages The original 13th primes were god like characters within the lore The fact that sentinel prime killed the original 13th is just physically impossible the nerfing is crazy
Seems to me like they’re just doing what every iteration of Transformers already does. Making their own “New” continuity.
@@DerekUpNorthseems like it, the lore gets more and more confusing
"God like" is a huge stretch, the original 13 Primes are demi-gods at best. They could still die from severe injuries (like Solus prime from the aligned continuity, when Megatronus blew a hole in her chest with his blaster).
Ashame Nova Prime never made the cut, honestly should have replaced Prima Prime because that name is not exactly creative
It's not even 'Prima Prime', just Prima - because he was the first Prime and the first Cybertronian created by Primus. He wielded the Matrix, not Zeta; I don't understand why they did that.
Actually in the TFone megatronus prime wasn't the fallen that time, but it really happens that sentinel betrayed them all and D-16 inspired megatronus, D-16 was the founder of the depecticons so the story is crap off and not canon hasbro said... The movie is so good I want to let see the next part of the movie
Where sentinal
how is liege maximo a prime?
hes a manipulator like loki
Liege maximo is one reason why Megatronus killed solous
Prima is the leader and the worrier he’s supposed to have the matrix of leadership I never heard of a zeta prime being the leader
In TFO Zeta replaces Prima as the leader and bearer of the Matrix.
Bruh