qrow really does go through it. his semblance already made his life hard to the point of becoming an alcoholic. the apathy dont need to do much with someone whos will is already weak.
@Static Gaming No, it's fine. Like, season 4 and 5 were slow and boring for the most part but they needed to be that way because we were learning essential information about Salem, the relics, etc. Season 6 was much better. I don't know how anyone thinks this volume is bad. It was pretty good overall, especially episodes like this one, or the one about Salem and Ozpin's backstory. Season 7 and 8 had a couple of plot flaws but overall were great too. This show hit a bad spot, but then recovered pretty well. Each character developed a lot from who they were in Season 3.
@Static Gaming Tell that to the growing popularity and ratings and over 280+ million views across youtube, blue ray, dvd and RT site. With about 150 million of those views being paid for too. 700k individual volume sales too on just blue ray and dvd in the US, the UK, Australia and Japan alone. They've made multiple dozens of millions in the past 3 years off of just merch and views on the site and blue ray. If the show was really as bad as you say, why are more and more people paying to watch it? They're getting more than enough revenue to keep making the show. Why are they getting an official DC Justice League crossover film, a Paladins crossover event, a new manga, a new spinoff anime show, a new cross platform high budget game with Arrowfell. Why do they keep producing volumes? Why is it ranked in the top 100 blue ray sales for action/adventure films/shows out of literally 1,000's. It's got hundred's of 5 star ratings and reviews on every single volume on Amazon too. The show is ranked in the top 5 percentile of animated shows, which means RWBY has higher demand than 98.7% of all other animated shows in the US right now. It also has 18.7x the demand of every other average TV series in the US and UK in the last month, and only 2% of all other TV shows have this level of demand. The show is good.
when it comes to Ruby's character flaw, she has what I like to call "the Buffy complex"; the one with the protagonist/main cast energies also has to be the glue of the group and therefore, doesn't deal with all their baggage until they literally have no choice ( Steven Universe, Katara form ATLA, etc). she has this habit of trying to do something and moving forward immediately after something bad happens. she saw penny get cut to pieces, and the first thing she does after that is get into a fight with a giant bird grim to protect her friend. during the battle of beacon in Vol. 3, when she finds out that Yang lost her arm, she does the hero speech and goes off to look for Jaune and Phyra. she said herself that she is a lot better at killing monsters than talking to people; especially about 'feelings'. and although she is getting better about that, she still struggles with it.
The Apathy were based off a few things: a scarecrow that Miles Luna found on reddit, the reavers from Firefly, and the Tale Of Bartleby The Schrivener Also, the show does a great job of taking Qrow's alcoholism, which has previously been used a joke, and remind us why it's called a drinking problem
Actually they are not also based on the Reavers from Firefly. They are based on the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate or "Pax" that was used on Miranda (yes it created the Reavers but the actual Reavers wasn't the Inspiration Miles tweeted that was used) the story Maria reads is a cross between the Bartleby story and the Story in the Hologram Playback on Miranda
The lamp shrinks and expands so that it’s easier to carry it was a small detail in a earlier episode so it’s easy to miss. Also Jinn can only be summoned by name though I get the mix up with a standard genie.
What you have to realize is that while Ruby has her own issues, one of her defining character traits is that she longs to be a hero, which means to her putting everyone before herself. So her issues are not always at the forefront the way everyone else's are. This volume really drives home the point of Ruby being the central driving force character that everyone is centering around.
Maria: Gather around children, time for a story. Once upon a time an awesome woman named Maria Calavera came across a group of six people after surviving a train crash. The group was very upset at an old man that was inside a little boys body They got even more upset after learning that everything they knew was a lie. So Maria suggested they move up the trail to which they all complied. They eventually came across a farm and decided to stay the night. However, everyone on the farm had drank the kool aid and never woke up. Nighttime came and everyone was really bummed out. The shaggy man was drinking so he could be very happy, and then very sad. When morning came, they were getting ready to leave, but they were being a bunch of Depressing Debras. Shaggy went off to get more acceptance juice, and the Red one dropped the lamp thing down the well. Red and her friends went to retrieve it, but they were encountered by a bunch of squatters. Because Maria spent her time reading instead of mopping around, she managed to come to their rescue. The squatters made loud complaints which made the girls not want to do anything. With Maria’s help, the Red one learned to use her Rinnegan to do away with the gibdo’s. They left the farm as quickly as possible, but not before committing arson, and got the f*&k out of dodge. In the end, everyone learned that reading is power, and old people are always right. The End Ruby: Maria, that’s not really what happened. Maria: whose telling the story? Ruby: you are? Maria: That’s right you little lloróna.
The man just found out that everything he’s been fighting for was a lie. The main thing that made him fight against his sister, the thing that made him risk his life everyday, everything was a lie. And they treat him this season like he’s a bad guy and yell at him when’s at the lowest point of his life. And he’s most definitely blaming himself and his semblance because it’s the easiest thing to blame. Why bully a broken man for trying to cope with his pain?
BTW, Miles has said the Apathy were some of the earliest grimm ever designed but were too powerful for that early on, and they're one of his favorites. Also in the V4 commentary Miles mentioned how they "almost met his favorite grimm", seems to imply the Apathy were originally gonna be the final boss of V4
Fun Facts Fact 1: The idea for the story that takes place in this episode existed before Volume 1 was written. Fact 2: Miles based the episode's plot on the short story Bartleby the Scrivener by Herman Melville. Fact 3: Maria is colorblind, which was evident in the episode when we learn she couldn't tell Ruby's eye color immediately. Fact 4: According to the writers, seeing the burning Apathy made Qrow realize that he almost let everyone get killed and now start to hate himself.
Since no one has talked about this. I think Miles or Kerry had talked about there being a clue to how the Apathy kill in the huntsman’s skeleton in the sewers. One of them even told the other how they kill and the other said “That’s the darkest thing I’ve ever heard.” Since then a lot of people have come to the conclusion that when the Apathy drain your will so much that you don’t do anything they stick their long fingers down your throat and blend up your organs, and since you’re so subdued you can’t fight back or even bother with the pain.
This is my 2nd favorite episode in the whole series. The way The Lost Fable leads right into this as a way of exemplifying the themes of this season and the series as a whole is beautiful.
Miles Luna, one of the writers and Jaune's VA, wrote a Twitter thread explaining his inspiration for this episode. It was back in 2018, so if anyone has immediate access to it, please reply with a link! I recommend giving it a read.
Ruby knows Qrow is an alcoholic, she's just getting really fed up. She showed that clarity last episode with realizing about the alcohol (and Weiss knows her mom is an alcoholic, too, from her conversation with Yang in V5). Also, it's interesting how Qrow mentioned back in the V3 finale that "it was said that even a single look from one of these [Silver-eyed Warriors] could strike a Grimm down." Important distinction: Jinn said that Oz couldn't Destroy Salem, not Defeat. Part of Ruby's struggle is clearer in the OST (especially V1's).
Ruby knows Qrow has alcohol problems, she said I think in the last episode, "We shouldn't show this room to Qrow." I still want Qrow's backstory, I have a feeling he blames himself for Summer Rose's death, that's why he is drinking a lot. Also, I think his semblance isn't bad luck, but random luck, but his view of life makes it bad. (Another theory of mine and others, that Ruby's real father is Qrow.)
Sidebar, the girls run past the body of the Cowboy Huntsman employed by the Brunswick estate....looks like he tried to deal with the Apathy but they were just too much for him.
I'd say Ruby might not show it but she does carries a heavy burden, possibly the heaviest. The responsibility of leadership, inspiring and struggling to keep that optimism and hope alive despite everything bad going on around them.
Oz's betrayal hits Qrow especially hard, because from his perspective, think of how many friends and family he's lost along the way. Since he was a teenager, he's seen classmates and a close teammate, die for a lie. For an impossible cause. He's spent the last 17 years defending Oz to his sister, and she's just been proven right about everything she said about him. And to top it all off, Oz has spent countless lifetimes trying to think of a way to stop Salem, and he's still got no idea at all. So everyone who has died so far, didn't just die for Oz's lie, their deaths accomplished absolutely nothing, because there is no plan at all. A total waste. That would break anyone. Add to that, that Oz's cause was the one thing Qrow had to feel wanted and useful, but now it just seems that Oz was preying on his weakness to use him as a pawn. From Qrow's perspective, he gave everything to Oz, and Oz saw him as completely disposable.
@@Mirality think of it like building a house. If you just start nailing boards together, maybe you'll get lucky and the end result will be livable. But more likely, working without a plan means that a lot of those nails and joints and walls are in the wrong place, and all the effort put into them could have been better used elsewhere. Or chess. Someone playing randomly or reactionarily _might_ beat someone with a plan, but it's not likely. They just flail about, wasting their limited moves shifting pieces that aren't useful, or being baited into making obvious counters that leave them open elsewhere. The best that someone playing like that can hope for is usually a stalemate. Which is what Oz had, up until now. He's lost so many pieces though just from playing reactively, that he can't react anymore.
He did have a plan -- but the plan mostly centered around keeping the Relics in safe places (i.e. to prevent Salem bringing them together, not actually to defeat her). And it has worked reasonably well for a long time; but is vulnerable to internal corruption. And ultimately it is aiming for a stalemate. It's hard to win against a player that's actively trying to achieve a stalemate, although not impossible, especially if you have all the time in the world (literally).
@@Mirality a plan for a stalemate is not a plan for victory. "Professor, what _is_ your plan to defeat Salem?" "I don't have one" "We signed on to try to save the world, not just... delay the inevitable" The point is that this isn't the fight they signed on for, not the fight that Oz led them to believe, and that the issue of disillusionment is a direct result of Oz cultivating the illusion in the first place.
@@Mirality That was not a plan, that was at best a delay tactic. Without an endgame, what you are delaying is an inevitable defeat. You can only keep the relics safe until Salem figures out where they are and how to get to them.
The Apathy were partially inspired by the story of Bartleby the Scrivener. To sum it up, it's basically a story about a man that became so apathetic to the world that he refused to eat or drink or move, stating that he'd "prefer not to" until he died. It was revealed by the writers that these Grimm were supposed to have made an appearance back in V1 but were deemed too powerful for that time in the show. They kept getting pushed back until, finally, V6. They seemed to have been made for this moment, in all honesty. Our heroes are at a severe low point. Their ability to trust Oz not to lie to them has been reduced to nothing (and he's abandoned them), they just found out their final boss is immortal. Their morale is completely shot. They have no other objective than get the Lamp to Atlas, which to them in this moment, seems so pointless after learning the truth. "Delaying the inevitable," Oscar calls it. It's such a perfect time for these new Grimm, that it wouldn't be unusual to not second guess the fact that they're all Tired and questioning why they have to do all this. But as the scene outside the house goes on, we get more on edge. The music comes back in with these strings, and the characters' pupils are blown and dull, and their voices become more and more lifeless until even Ruby starts to succumb. God I just really love this episode and I love these Grimm. Crwby just really blew it out of the park with this one.
My favorite episode of the volume. imo the best episode in the volume with just two very minor issues. One of which, Weiss being stopped by a padlock and small chain.
this was one of my favorite mini arcs in the series, i also drew that instnat recognition to the ocarina of time zombies, those things terrified the shit out of me as a kid lol
@@justbeinghonest369 what would be the point in reacting to it if they had already watched it. By now yes because they state in this video that they were recording in October but I just think they are perceptive enough to figure out what's going to happen
@@justbeinghonest369 Because he guessed something as obvious as getting a flashback of a character being blinded when she just said she "had" silver eyes? That's like predicting a rainbow after it rains. Might not happen, but not surprising if it does XD
Maria is literally the best addition to the show (at this point) since Oscar in volume 4, not just her having had silver eyes, but her personality, design, and role in the story are all just amazing
I don't think any of them could really use their semblances at that point. They could barely move. That's why Yang had to just punch it. Otherwise they could have just sealed off the entrances with ice.
@@cpMetis But I thought semblance was based off aura level, not emotion. If their intense fear had made them miss the monsters or mess up, I’d understand that. But Ruby took two shots at them and no one else did anything 😂
@@cpMetis I see what you’re saying tho. Just for me, it would’ve flowed better had Yang used her long range bullets (which she has regardless of semblance) and if it wasn’t just a chase scene only leading to silver eyes. The apathy were introduced so beautifully, I needed more combat/flow with them.
Its funny, apparently Miles and Monty had been planning the Apathy since season 1, but every time they tried to fit it in, it didn't really work with the tone of the season. So they had to wait until the show got a little more, serious. 😁 They choose the emotion Apathy because they believed it was the opposite if love. Love is an intense and powerful feeling; apathy is the absence of feeling. Things like this are why I love Rwby; we love you still Monty!
I think if you look at Salems story you'll recognize that she was locked alone in a tower and for a while she had Ozma, but then she broke the rules so the gods killed everyone and gave her immortality. Her punishment is to be Alone, while ozpin reincarnates into someone who is already alive, it isn't like the avatar where u reincarnate into a baby and You'll have you own life. no ozpin is essentially coexisting with someone until they merge into one person which is kinda of fuckedup. (the scene where the god of light tells Ozma that he'll reincarnate in a manner that ensures he'll never be alone)
What I think the reason is, is that Saleem had a body to 'freeze' her life span while Oz died and so his soul is what lives on, a soul needs to pass between not be frozen in place which is why Saleem doesn't reincarnated but Oz does
This is my favorite episode of rwby and last favorite episode to react to, because everyone compares them to Redeads which I find disrespectful. As mentioned by exactly one person in this video, the Apathy aren't just a monster. You don't freeze because they're scary. They're depression. They're clinical depression as a physical monster and I've never seen emotional trauma literalized so well before in anything.
I know people with silver eyes can hurt grimm with them, but are they also more resistant to affects grimm have? Ruby and Maria seemed to be by far the least tired out of everyone
lol Everyone tends to forget that Salem can die. It's only been 3 chapters but they forget that she's shown reconstituting from a pile of ash after her battle with Ozma. He's crawling away and you see her reform from that black pile of ash before she walks over to him and finishes him off. So she can die. She just can't stay dead. Her immortality is that she doesn't stay dead. The punishment was intended to make it so that she couldn't go to the "afterlife" to be with Oz. They'd be forever separated. I think the intention of putting Oz in other bodies was to attempt to keep him from her forever. Hoping that she wouldn't figure out who he was. Warning Oz before sending him back seems to be a way to try to keep him from searching her out and nullifying the whole purpose of making her immortal. It wasn't just to keep him from "ever being alone." I think that was the "god's" way of trying to keep Salem in that state of punishment.
The god of light told Ozma that he would never be alone. Him and his "like-minded" host will always eventually take up the battle against Salem. Whereas Salem has been alone, and continues to be so.
Maria reading the journals is both the smart and dumbest part of this episode. Smart that she wants to check to see what happened to the village, dumb that she wouldn’t start at the end and work her way back
This is one of the oldest episode concepts the crew had. They were originally going to make it volume 4's finale but ended up moving it up in light of Ren's character arc.
The person on the right keeps mispronouncing Weiss’ name. He keeps trying to call her “Vice.” She’s always had the American “W” sound. He keeps regressing into it.
I get Qrow feels betrayed and all, but the choice drink in a situation where you know there’s dead bodies in every home is pretty stupid. Especially when you’re the lookout.
"qrow is proving himself less and less useful" yeah its really a shame. thats cause the writers slowly want to turn any adult completly useless or wrong so they can get away with "children" always being right and knowing it and being better. (see ozpin). they are incapable of archieving the latter without the former. dont worry, there is even more of that later.
I mean, I won't argue for the rest of the adults (especially Ozpin) but it makes perfect sense for Qrow to be written this way and it feels like the natural progression of his character from V3. V6 did wonders for Qrow honestly.
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The realization cracks me up!
“Isn’t it obvious, I had silver eyes.”
Marketa: “yay!- she had?”
I was like "did you think her mech eyes were just cool sunglasses or what?"
qrow really does go through it. his semblance already made his life hard to the point of becoming an alcoholic. the apathy dont need to do much with someone whos will is already weak.
He also got kind of depressed after realizing Ozpin lied to him for whole life.
I just LUV when people get to this episode of the Volume.
Same lmao
Same
@Static Gaming No, it's fine. Like, season 4 and 5 were slow and boring for the most part but they needed to be that way because we were learning essential information about Salem, the relics, etc. Season 6 was much better. I don't know how anyone thinks this volume is bad. It was pretty good overall, especially episodes like this one, or the one about Salem and Ozpin's backstory. Season 7 and 8 had a couple of plot flaws but overall were great too. This show hit a bad spot, but then recovered pretty well. Each character developed a lot from who they were in Season 3.
@Static Gaming Tell that to the growing popularity and ratings and over 280+ million views across youtube, blue ray, dvd and RT site. With about 150 million of those views being paid for too. 700k individual volume sales too on just blue ray and dvd in the US, the UK, Australia and Japan alone. They've made multiple dozens of millions in the past 3 years off of just merch and views on the site and blue ray. If the show was really as bad as you say, why are more and more people paying to watch it? They're getting more than enough revenue to keep making the show. Why are they getting an official DC Justice League crossover film, a Paladins crossover event, a new manga, a new spinoff anime show, a new cross platform high budget game with Arrowfell. Why do they keep producing volumes? Why is it ranked in the top 100 blue ray sales for action/adventure films/shows out of literally 1,000's. It's got hundred's of 5 star ratings and reviews on every single volume on Amazon too. The show is ranked in the top 5 percentile of animated shows, which means RWBY has higher demand than 98.7% of all other animated shows in the US right now. It also has 18.7x the demand of every other average TV series in the US and UK in the last month, and only 2% of all other TV shows have this level of demand. The show is good.
when it comes to Ruby's character flaw, she has what I like to call "the Buffy complex"; the one with the protagonist/main cast energies also has to be the glue of the group and therefore, doesn't deal with all their baggage until they literally have no choice ( Steven Universe, Katara form ATLA, etc). she has this habit of trying to do something and moving forward immediately after something bad happens. she saw penny get cut to pieces, and the first thing she does after that is get into a fight with a giant bird grim to protect her friend. during the battle of beacon in Vol. 3, when she finds out that Yang lost her arm, she does the hero speech and goes off to look for Jaune and Phyra. she said herself that she is a lot better at killing monsters than talking to people; especially about 'feelings'. and although she is getting better about that, she still struggles with it.
The Apathy were based off a few things: a scarecrow that Miles Luna found on reddit, the reavers from Firefly, and the Tale Of Bartleby The Schrivener
Also, the show does a great job of taking Qrow's alcoholism, which has previously been used a joke, and remind us why it's called a drinking problem
Actually they are not also based on the Reavers from Firefly. They are based on the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate or "Pax" that was used on Miranda (yes it created the Reavers but the actual Reavers wasn't the Inspiration Miles tweeted that was used) the story Maria reads is a cross between the Bartleby story and the Story in the Hologram Playback on Miranda
@@whenwordsfailmusicspeaks246 ok that makes more sense, because the reavers idea didn’t. 😂
Nothings going to stop me from comparing them to LoZ ReDeads. They're literally swarming the bottom of a well for fucks sake.
The Apathy are the worst of all Grimm creatures ever!😱
The lamp shrinks and expands so that it’s easier to carry it was a small detail in a earlier episode so it’s easy to miss. Also Jinn can only be summoned by name though I get the mix up with a standard genie.
Wow I never noticed that!
SPOILERS FOR PPL NOT CAUGHT UP
How did damarin guess that at the end 😂😂
LOOOOOL
I almost did a spit-take lol
well there was really only 2 options with the term "had" either you lose them naturally or something makes you lose them unnaturally.
@@bopqw1055 yeah but he even did the slashing motion across his eyes, and he guessed she was fighting.
Pretty cool
Pretty cool
my eyes went wide at that part haha
What you have to realize is that while Ruby has her own issues, one of her defining character traits is that she longs to be a hero, which means to her putting everyone before herself. So her issues are not always at the forefront the way everyone else's are. This volume really drives home the point of Ruby being the central driving force character that everyone is centering around.
The apathy is my favorite Grimm in Rwby. Also, really loved how this mystery unfolded. Love to see more of Apathy.
Maria: Gather around children, time for a story.
Once upon a time an awesome woman named Maria Calavera came across a group of six people after surviving a train crash.
The group was very upset at an old man that was inside a little boys body
They got even more upset after learning that everything they knew was a lie. So Maria suggested they move up the trail to which they all complied.
They eventually came across a farm and decided to stay the night. However, everyone on the farm had drank the kool aid and never woke up.
Nighttime came and everyone was really bummed out. The shaggy man was drinking so he could be very happy, and then very sad.
When morning came, they were getting ready to leave, but they were being a bunch of Depressing Debras.
Shaggy went off to get more acceptance juice, and the Red one dropped the lamp thing down the well.
Red and her friends went to retrieve it, but they were encountered by a bunch of squatters.
Because Maria spent her time reading instead of mopping around, she managed to come to their rescue.
The squatters made loud complaints which made the girls not want to do anything.
With Maria’s help, the Red one learned to use her Rinnegan to do away with the gibdo’s.
They left the farm as quickly as possible, but not before committing arson, and got the f*&k out of dodge.
In the end, everyone learned that reading is power, and old people are always right.
The End
Ruby: Maria, that’s not really what happened.
Maria: whose telling the story?
Ruby: you are?
Maria: That’s right you little lloróna.
Qrows really depressed because of the Ozpin stuff. He's known Oz most likely since he was in school and its really messing with him.
The man just found out that everything he’s been fighting for was a lie. The main thing that made him fight against his sister, the thing that made him risk his life everyday, everything was a lie. And they treat him this season like he’s a bad guy and yell at him when’s at the lowest point of his life. And he’s most definitely blaming himself and his semblance because it’s the easiest thing to blame. Why bully a broken man for trying to cope with his pain?
@@i_am_you_you_are_not_me6043 Yeah it really puts everything Raven said before into perspective.
She was absolutely right about what she said.
My love for that little dog is endless and unwavering.
"In the war against darkness, sometimes stalemate is victory."
Dameron literally exactly predicted the beginning of the next episode.
Or he's seen it already and he's faking being psychic to look cool!😂
One of the most iconic horrific episodes of RWBY and they watched it on October 29th. The Normies have impeccable timing 👌
A: This episode lives rent free in my mind, B: I love how Marketta gets this right almost immediately
Not exactly sure how you spell Terlie, but with him you’re team MSTRD (Mustard).
Love the visual symbolism of Yang sleeping between Ruby and Oscar but keeps Ruby between her and Blake.
BTW, Miles has said the Apathy were some of the earliest grimm ever designed but were too powerful for that early on, and they're one of his favorites.
Also in the V4 commentary Miles mentioned how they "almost met his favorite grimm", seems to imply the Apathy were originally gonna be the final boss of V4
Fun Facts
Fact 1: The idea for the story that takes place in this episode existed before Volume 1 was written.
Fact 2: Miles based the episode's plot on the short story Bartleby the Scrivener by Herman Melville.
Fact 3: Maria is colorblind, which was evident in the episode when we learn she couldn't tell Ruby's eye color immediately.
Fact 4: According to the writers, seeing the burning Apathy made Qrow realize that he almost let everyone get killed and now start to hate himself.
Since no one has talked about this. I think Miles or Kerry had talked about there being a clue to how the Apathy kill in the huntsman’s skeleton in the sewers. One of them even told the other how they kill and the other said “That’s the darkest thing I’ve ever heard.” Since then a lot of people have come to the conclusion that when the Apathy drain your will so much that you don’t do anything they stick their long fingers down your throat and blend up your organs, and since you’re so subdued you can’t fight back or even bother with the pain.
21:38 so no one gonna talk about how he (the white guy) just predicted the next episode I'm gonna say it he already watch the whole episode.
4:53: Yo, why was Surge so accurate tho? VA alert?
this is probably one of my favorite episodes of the entire show
This is my 2nd favorite episode in the whole series.
The way The Lost Fable leads right into this as a way of exemplifying the themes of this season and the series as a whole is beautiful.
Miles Luna, one of the writers and Jaune's VA, wrote a Twitter thread explaining his inspiration for this episode. It was back in 2018, so if anyone has immediate access to it, please reply with a link! I recommend giving it a read.
Ruby knows Qrow is an alcoholic, she's just getting really fed up. She showed that clarity last episode with realizing about the alcohol (and Weiss knows her mom is an alcoholic, too, from her conversation with Yang in V5).
Also, it's interesting how Qrow mentioned back in the V3 finale that "it was said that even a single look from one of these [Silver-eyed Warriors] could strike a Grimm down."
Important distinction: Jinn said that Oz couldn't Destroy Salem, not Defeat.
Part of Ruby's struggle is clearer in the OST (especially V1's).
Any RWBY episode is perfect for Halloween! Halloween is Ruby's birthday
Ruby knows Qrow has alcohol problems, she said I think in the last episode, "We shouldn't show this room to Qrow."
I still want Qrow's backstory, I have a feeling he blames himself for Summer Rose's death, that's why he is drinking a lot. Also, I think his semblance isn't bad luck, but random luck, but his view of life makes it bad. (Another theory of mine and others, that Ruby's real father is Qrow.)
This episode reminded me of Miranda in Serenity/Firefly
Funny you should mention that as the Apathy are literally inspired by a key plot element in Serenity :)
Sidebar, the girls run past the body of the Cowboy Huntsman employed by the Brunswick estate....looks like he tried to deal with the Apathy but they were just too much for him.
I'd say Ruby might not show it but she does carries a heavy burden, possibly the heaviest. The responsibility of leadership, inspiring and struggling to keep that optimism and hope alive despite everything bad going on around them.
The Apathy are easily my favorite Grimm. Individually not strong, but in a group, oh lordy.
Oz's betrayal hits Qrow especially hard, because from his perspective, think of how many friends and family he's lost along the way. Since he was a teenager, he's seen classmates and a close teammate, die for a lie. For an impossible cause. He's spent the last 17 years defending Oz to his sister, and she's just been proven right about everything she said about him. And to top it all off, Oz has spent countless lifetimes trying to think of a way to stop Salem, and he's still got no idea at all. So everyone who has died so far, didn't just die for Oz's lie, their deaths accomplished absolutely nothing, because there is no plan at all. A total waste. That would break anyone. Add to that, that Oz's cause was the one thing Qrow had to feel wanted and useful, but now it just seems that Oz was preying on his weakness to use him as a pawn. From Qrow's perspective, he gave everything to Oz, and Oz saw him as completely disposable.
The lack of a plan does not equate to wasted effort. Having a plan might be better, of course, but they're still accomplishing something.
@@Mirality think of it like building a house. If you just start nailing boards together, maybe you'll get lucky and the end result will be livable. But more likely, working without a plan means that a lot of those nails and joints and walls are in the wrong place, and all the effort put into them could have been better used elsewhere.
Or chess. Someone playing randomly or reactionarily _might_ beat someone with a plan, but it's not likely. They just flail about, wasting their limited moves shifting pieces that aren't useful, or being baited into making obvious counters that leave them open elsewhere. The best that someone playing like that can hope for is usually a stalemate. Which is what Oz had, up until now. He's lost so many pieces though just from playing reactively, that he can't react anymore.
He did have a plan -- but the plan mostly centered around keeping the Relics in safe places (i.e. to prevent Salem bringing them together, not actually to defeat her). And it has worked reasonably well for a long time; but is vulnerable to internal corruption. And ultimately it is aiming for a stalemate. It's hard to win against a player that's actively trying to achieve a stalemate, although not impossible, especially if you have all the time in the world (literally).
@@Mirality a plan for a stalemate is not a plan for victory.
"Professor, what _is_ your plan to defeat Salem?" "I don't have one"
"We signed on to try to save the world, not just... delay the inevitable"
The point is that this isn't the fight they signed on for, not the fight that Oz led them to believe, and that the issue of disillusionment is a direct result of Oz cultivating the illusion in the first place.
@@Mirality That was not a plan, that was at best a delay tactic. Without an endgame, what you are delaying is an inevitable defeat. You can only keep the relics safe until Salem figures out where they are and how to get to them.
21:50 there is no way in hell the guy on the right has not watched ahead
21:32 not Damarin literally explaining what's going to happen in the next episode😂
The Apathy were partially inspired by the story of Bartleby the Scrivener. To sum it up, it's basically a story about a man that became so apathetic to the world that he refused to eat or drink or move, stating that he'd "prefer not to" until he died. It was revealed by the writers that these Grimm were supposed to have made an appearance back in V1 but were deemed too powerful for that time in the show. They kept getting pushed back until, finally, V6.
They seemed to have been made for this moment, in all honesty. Our heroes are at a severe low point. Their ability to trust Oz not to lie to them has been reduced to nothing (and he's abandoned them), they just found out their final boss is immortal. Their morale is completely shot. They have no other objective than get the Lamp to Atlas, which to them in this moment, seems so pointless after learning the truth. "Delaying the inevitable," Oscar calls it.
It's such a perfect time for these new Grimm, that it wouldn't be unusual to not second guess the fact that they're all Tired and questioning why they have to do all this. But as the scene outside the house goes on, we get more on edge. The music comes back in with these strings, and the characters' pupils are blown and dull, and their voices become more and more lifeless until even Ruby starts to succumb.
God I just really love this episode and I love these Grimm. Crwby just really blew it out of the park with this one.
This is probably the most praised arc of RWBY. While I don't think it's as scary as everyone said I can definitely agree that it's solid.
My favorite episode of the volume. imo the best episode in the volume with just two very minor issues.
One of which, Weiss being stopped by a padlock and small chain.
this was one of my favorite mini arcs in the series, i also drew that instnat recognition to the ocarina of time zombies, those things terrified the shit out of me as a kid lol
21:34 This man must be a king of predictions. wtf........lol
I love how they called it out about the flashback, can't wait to see
Because obviously one or two of them watch this before
@@justbeinghonest369 what would be the point in reacting to it if they had already watched it. By now yes because they state in this video that they were recording in October but I just think they are perceptive enough to figure out what's going to happen
@@norahhitt104 ok again One or two of them have watched it
@@justbeinghonest369 Because he guessed something as obvious as getting a flashback of a character being blinded when she just said she "had" silver eyes? That's like predicting a rainbow after it rains. Might not happen, but not surprising if it does XD
@@Aodhs_Ember ok one or two of them have watched it get over it lol
Lmfao man called the next episode
Maria is literally the best addition to the show (at this point) since Oscar in volume 4, not just her having had silver eyes, but her personality, design, and role in the story are all just amazing
love this episode has one of my favorite looking grimm this volume can't wait till next week
Weiss always gets me with that “they’re locked!” line. I understand she’s scared, but girl you summoned a whole giant.
None of them had the energy to muster up a fight.
I don't think any of them could really use their semblances at that point. They could barely move. That's why Yang had to just punch it.
Otherwise they could have just sealed off the entrances with ice.
@@cpMetis But I thought semblance was based off aura level, not emotion. If their intense fear had made them miss the monsters or mess up, I’d understand that. But Ruby took two shots at them and no one else did anything 😂
@@cpMetis I see what you’re saying tho. Just for me, it would’ve flowed better had Yang used her long range bullets (which she has regardless of semblance) and if it wasn’t just a chase scene only leading to silver eyes. The apathy were introduced so beautifully, I needed more combat/flow with them.
Its funny, apparently Miles and Monty had been planning the Apathy since season 1, but every time they tried to fit it in, it didn't really work with the tone of the season. So they had to wait until the show got a little more, serious. 😁 They choose the emotion Apathy because they believed it was the opposite if love. Love is an intense and powerful feeling; apathy is the absence of feeling.
Things like this are why I love Rwby; we love you still Monty!
Best episode of RWBY ever. Also, Maria and Ruby were the two that were least effected by the Apathy ;)
Hey guys from the patreon, how far are we actually on rwby?
This is by far one of the most blood curdling episodes yet
I think if you look at Salems story you'll recognize that she was locked alone in a tower and for a while she had Ozma, but then she broke the rules so the gods killed everyone and gave her immortality. Her punishment is to be Alone, while ozpin reincarnates into someone who is already alive, it isn't like the avatar where u reincarnate into a baby and You'll have you own life. no ozpin is essentially coexisting with someone until they merge into one person which is kinda of fuckedup. (the scene where the god of light tells Ozma that he'll reincarnate in a manner that ensures he'll never be alone)
What I think the reason is, is that Saleem had a body to 'freeze' her life span while Oz died and so his soul is what lives on, a soul needs to pass between not be frozen in place which is why Saleem doesn't reincarnated but Oz does
21:53 And I thought the Beast Titan had disturbingly long arms.
This is my favorite episode of rwby and last favorite episode to react to, because everyone compares them to Redeads which I find disrespectful. As mentioned by exactly one person in this video, the Apathy aren't just a monster. You don't freeze because they're scary. They're depression. They're clinical depression as a physical monster and I've never seen emotional trauma literalized so well before in anything.
It’d be even scarier if the Apathy just started grabbing and slaughtering people. The estate’s backstory what’s gives me chills. I love it.
I know people with silver eyes can hurt grimm with them, but are they also more resistant to affects grimm have? Ruby and Maria seemed to be by far the least tired out of everyone
Those Grimm are called the apathy because their voice gives you apathy
the apathy is my second Favorite Grimm of all Rwby.
lol Everyone tends to forget that Salem can die. It's only been 3 chapters but they forget that she's shown reconstituting from a pile of ash after her battle with Ozma. He's crawling away and you see her reform from that black pile of ash before she walks over to him and finishes him off. So she can die. She just can't stay dead. Her immortality is that she doesn't stay dead.
The punishment was intended to make it so that she couldn't go to the "afterlife" to be with Oz. They'd be forever separated. I think the intention of putting Oz in other bodies was to attempt to keep him from her forever. Hoping that she wouldn't figure out who he was. Warning Oz before sending him back seems to be a way to try to keep him from searching her out and nullifying the whole purpose of making her immortal. It wasn't just to keep him from "ever being alone." I think that was the "god's" way of trying to keep Salem in that state of punishment.
Lol literally calling the next episode with the flashback
"Vice"
Yeah The Apathy probably affected an unlucky alcoholic far more than the rest.
Miranda
If you know it, you know it.
Ruby's issue is being the youngest member of the team. Sounds crazy but responsibly is heavy
Just saying but Ruby and Yang knows that their uncle is a alcoholic. That’s why last episode Ruby said we should lock the door with the liquor in it.
We're full horror movie territory now
The god of light told Ozma that he would never be alone. Him and his "like-minded" host will always eventually take up the battle against Salem. Whereas Salem has been alone, and continues to be so.
Maria reading the journals is both the smart and dumbest part of this episode. Smart that she wants to check to see what happened to the village, dumb that she wouldn’t start at the end and work her way back
I liked this mini-Arc.
The Apathy is what happens when life and depression take boxing lessons.
Drunkle Qrow.
Next chapter is a banger
Next Chapter could be pretty interesting for you, maybe.
you just wtched one of y fav episodes of this show.
last time Ruby literally told Weiss not to tell Qrow about the wine cellar...i think she knows her uncle drinks. but let me guess, you already forgot.
Why was no one sleeping on that empty couch?
This is one of the oldest episode concepts the crew had.
They were originally going to make it volume 4's finale but ended up moving it up in light of Ren's character arc.
6:14 wasnt she like. 17 in volume 1 lol
edit: i checked the wiki and that was just the rest of team rwby, but shes 17 in this volume
.... Um did they forget that the apathy are affecting more the the characters on screen. I love all the random Qrow hate
oh he's not running from the oz thing he is just depressed af that everything he beleived it was a lie
Huh, interesting.
The person on the right keeps mispronouncing Weiss’ name. He keeps trying to call her “Vice.” She’s always had the American “W” sound. He keeps regressing into it.
Am I the only one that hears Damarin call Weiss with a V and not W. This dude keeps confused on every episode
I get Qrow feels betrayed and all, but the choice drink in a situation where you know there’s dead bodies in every home is pretty stupid. Especially when you’re the lookout.
Please react to Alice in borderland on Netflix please
Please react anime food wars
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i don't hate dog but i do dislike be near them for reason wean i was young i get bite in my lag end up not like them form than to now
"qrow is proving himself less and less useful"
yeah its really a shame. thats cause the writers slowly want to turn any adult completly useless or wrong so they can get away with "children" always being right and knowing it and being better. (see ozpin). they are incapable of archieving the latter without the former.
dont worry, there is even more of that later.
I mean, I won't argue for the rest of the adults (especially Ozpin) but it makes perfect sense for Qrow to be written this way and it feels like the natural progression of his character from V3.
V6 did wonders for Qrow honestly.