@@King710. I can see where you are coming from. I personally believe that he felt bad for yelling at her after realising that she is used to being hit. It messed daryl up because he didn't know. That's my opinion
@@King710. other way around possibly, that he related and empathized with her. Maybe both your suggestion and mine combined. Maybe he even hated himself a little. All of these are possible and it's most likely he felt all at the same time.
I thought he felt a little bad because out of instinct she flinched when he got too close and he knows what it's like to live with someone who is abusive.
He gets that feeling because he knows what it’s like since I think from some small scenes it shows he was abused by his parents and he knows what abuse is like
@@AK_-xn1fm That's the beautiful part of their relationship. Both are stoic, but troubled souls who, for the longest time, have had to roll with the punches. The apocalypse, in a way, was what woke them up and allowed them to grow, even if it took a long time. In a way, it's a microcosm of The Walking Dead itself.
I think Daryl got worked up because he's not used to a person caring about him. His parents sure as hell didn't, not to mention his dad used him as a human punching bag. Just like Daryl said when he was in the woods; Merle talks big but he was never there; he didn't protect Daryl like he said he did. When he got lost, his father didn't even notice his absence. To have Carol care about him is foreign to him, and doesn't know how to react to it. I'm guessing that since Daryl hasn't had anyone to care for him, he thought Carol was faking it, so in result, pushed her away and was mean, just so that he didn't get hurt like he usually did.
Worldwideex Quite the contrary. Abused children very often become abusers in aduld life, and Daryl seems to have those tendencies (look how he manhandled Beth in Still). Of course he is now trying hard to be a good person but he has anger managment issues and I can easily see him as a guy who hits a girl in a heat of a moment and apologizes later because he feels guilty (he did it to some extent when he called Carol a bitch and then felt bad about it)
I love reading peoples analysis of this scene. my take on it is that they both had guilt and blamed themselves for Sophia. some say Carol wanted to be hit or yelled at, i think thats true. but Daryl wanted her to yell back and wanted her to hate him for "letting" Sophia die. notice every time he says something mean he pauses expecting backlash but he gets none. so he says worse and worse things, still hoping she'll fight him but she doesnt, because she knows that what he truly needs is to just get all the anger out and realize that she doesnt hate or blame him, even if he thinks that he wants to be hurt.
I agree with all of that. I definitely think they both wanted to be yelled at. Here's my take on it: Between this scene and the scene where Daryl yells at Beth, he shows that he holds the deaths of people who are important to him on his conscience. And the scene where he describes to Carl how he found out his own mother died is what made me think it deeply affects Daryl when other people are dealing with kids losing parents and parents losing kids and that maybe he associates that kind of death with guilt. And Carol, who was beaten by her husband for years and held the weight of that so her daughter wouldn't have to, learned to associate love with pain and often demonstrates tough love with people. I think she wanted to be shown that tough love, to be slapped with emotion. They both force themselves to feel the guilt because they think they deserve it, and I think the moment Daryl stopped yelling is the moment he began to realize neither of them really deserved it. It's such a layered moment with two very layered characters.
This. I can imagine that Carol was desperate to be punished for not protecting Sophia, and a full on verbal assault from Daryl was just what she wanted. Your take on Daryl rings with so much truth.
I think when Daryl said "your afraid cause your all alone" that went deeper than his anger towards CArol here. I think it applies to him too; he hasn't got anyone either and he knows it. This rant is his way of making someone else feel like he feels: alone, angry and worthless (because he blames himself for not finding Sophia, he feels like is not needed anymore) because it makes him feel less alone in his torment. Wow that was deep.
Daryl wasn't angry at Carol, here. He was irritated that she returned to his private campsite, after earlier events.. but not directly angry at her. If were the case, then he would have have just turned and walked away from Carol. But he didn't. This was all just misdirected frustration over losing Sophia. And yes.. This was indeed a deeply impacted scene
I think the reason he acted this way is because he had never been treated this way. After Carol kissed him on the head and said 'You're every bit as good as them, every bit' he didn't know how to react. He reacted the only way he knew how, get angry. To me, that's how you know he loves her. Like someone said earlier, behind anger is hurt and behind hurt is love.
When she flinched it just broke my heart :( at least her husband isn't there to beat her up anymore :D when the walkers got him in his tent I celebrated kind of :)
0:54 "Sophia wasn't mine, all you had to do was keep an eye on her!" There are a few sentences in this show that gets me in my feelings and this is one of them. One of the other lines is when Rick said to the group "I didn't ask to be your leader. I killed my best friend for you people for Christ sake!"
I feel super bad for Carol here but I felt even more bad for Daryl he was honestly the main person encouraging Carol to keep hope alive on finding Sophie he even promised her she was still alive and they would find her. Basically Daryle went back to giving up hope and being like his older brother Meryl it was sad he went backwards here.
"Sofia wasn't mine!" shows how badly Daryl wanted to find that little girl alive and how much her death really hit him, a visceral anger at the loss of an innocents life. No wonder Carol stuck by him.
This scene was Daryl's first major breakthrough for his character development. "Sophia wasn't even mine!" Gave him away completely, that he did care this whole time and that he is in pain with her passing. His whole rant before that line is him trying to make it seem like he didn't care, but then he says that and he realizes his whole rant was pointless because he did care.
0:43 I find this part so interesting, cause he’s intentionally insulting her to hurt her and push her away, but all of what he says is so similar to himself. I think it applies to him as well. And I think it shows his own fear, and how he felt like he had to push her away to protect himself, like a defense mechanism of sorts. He didn’t know how to deal with someone actually caring about him, he didn’t know how that felt, and it was overwhelming.
I do love this scene, and really never realized how relevant it was to their relationship. Idk if I agree that she was inviting him to hit her, but saw it more as her wanting him to open up and express all his emotions after saying that she wouldn't let him pull away. Then when he's tearing into her and she flinches I think that's when he realizes just how much they are the same. When he says Sophia wasn't mine, that was just heart breaking, cause at this point no one is really his, he doesn't see himself as part of the group/family yet and is still holding himself separate. It's crazy seeing the transformation for both Daryl and Carol between season 1 and 9, it's some phenomenal acting and character development which is what makes them and this show my absolute favorite.
I agree. I came to the show late but their relationship is why I got hooked. Its not a typical one and so interesting how they see the good in each other and to fight their demons.
Their fight from S10×18 reminded me of this conversation they had back in S2. It wasn't even a fight really, it was just like this. Daryl venting out his frustration and Carol listening.
Daryl made it a personal quest to find Sophia because maybe this will be way to sort of clear up his past. Everything he said reflects on him. He knows there's a little boy inside him trying to prove he's a man, & finding Sophia dead made him feel like he never will. When he said "you got no husband" he meant "I don't have a father" when he said "no daughter" he meant "I don't have my brother". He's nervous, but feels like he should push her away to sort of tell himself there's no way this woman cares about me, since nobody ever did.
I think in this situation Daryl felt like he could relate to Sophia. He was that kid once that ended up alone in the woods when others failed to notice him gone, so he made it his personal quest to find her because he knows how bad it is. I think him getting mad at Carol is his way of taking it out at his own parent, his father for neglecting him. So deep down, he's the angry forgotten about kid and Carol is the neglectful, cold hearted father that is incapable of loving anyone, that's what he wants fo believe anyway but Carol's actions later on prove him wrong that she's not like that.
I think Daryl went all out for Sohpia because when he was getting abused, hit with a belt and everything, no body came for him. Not a single soul in the world searched or cared about Daryl Dixon
And now he is the most kindhearted soul who plays with Ricks kids and brings his freinds food at their doors for when they wake up. Plus he has become one of the best leaders (Rick was his mentor) Such an amazing development. He always had a big heart though, just hidden behind a life of hate growing up
This scene always makes me want to cry bc Carol knew that Daryl blames himself a bit for not finding Sophia and he needed to vent so she let him. But what gets me every time is the very end when you can see the fear & sadness on Carol's face as she's being brave and not cry or lash out at Daryl. She was probably used to it due to her awful husband who used to yelled and beat her up....I just love it when these two are together and so glad that they found each other to lean on through out the show.
Glen Mazzara on this scene- "Daryl is rocked by [the barn massacre]. He wanted to be Carol's knight in shining armor and take up this quest and be the one to find that girl. He now questions his self-worth. Was he a fool to ever take on that quest? This brings up issues of his upbringing. He actually is going to hit Carol and pulls back his fist because that is his learned behavior and her learned behavior is to take it. Her generous spirit is willing to take that because she cares about him so deeply." It's honestly hard to say who to pity more in this scene. They're both such broken, tragic people, and their interactions in this episode and the two preceding are just so poignant because of that.
When I re-watched this scene a few times, it was all clear.. .. Daryl never fooled me .. He obviously likes Carol, here .. a lot. Otherwise he wouldn't have acted as he did earlier on (holding on her at the barn, etc) He just always lived his life in defense mode cuz that's all he knew. If he didn't like Carol, he would have just walked away and left her standing there.
Did I seriously write that comment that way? LOL! I am soooo much brighter than that! :) What I should have said was... It was way obvious the 1st time I watched this scene from S2, that Daryl obviously had a secret thing for Carol...But was too distraught by the be-damned efforts of finding Sophia alive... Poor man. But he didn't simply walk away. He definitely had feelings for lovely Carol... He just didn't know about himself at the time. The dire evidence was of course, the manner in which he held onto gorgeous Carol during the fateful barn scene earlier... Such care and such loving tenderness.. Any woman would have wanted to trade places with Carol :)) Daryl wouldn't have acted that way around just any woman.. Widowed Carol was different... and special :) She wasn't just an attractive woman who'd lost her beloved daughter... Daryl saw her in a very different light. And glad be that. :) And I still can't get enough of Daryl grabbing onto her, and holding her... during that barn scene.... I watch it in slow-mo
from the moment she flinched cause she expected to be hit, Daryl would kill anyone for her... he just related to her deeply. he could see in her eyes all the pain she went through... p.s. if they kill her off the show i'm done watching it
They're very amazing actors. Such an intense scene! The way she reacts to his yelling.. It didn't phase her, because she'd been through it all .. The yelling , the hitting , the rudeness.. She's such a strong character.. Melissa portrays this character amazingly and gives Carol so much meaning.. As well as Norman..
So I’ve seen this part to many times. And I just realized when she thinks he’s gonna hit her she whimpers. Omg this makes me so sad that she thought he was gonna do that. I’m so glad they have come so far. 0:58-1:02
The line in the barn when Carol says "We don't know if we're going to find her, Daryl", gosh that line broke my heart. The first time Carol seems to strongly admit that Sofia could be dead and Daryl is so frustrated by it.
He saw her prep for a shot and he knew, from personal experience, what she was expecting and he couldn’t believe he was walking tall right into his daddy’s footsteps. It’s that moment right there that a man determines if he’s going to walk that same path, or forge his own. Glad the writers had Daryl forge his own path alongside Rick.
Anyone else fall apart at the look on his face when she flinches away from him? It kills me every time, because in my head I can't help but keep thinking, he must have flinched like that so many times because of his dad. 😭😭 I don't ship them but the show would be nothing without their bond it means more to me than is probably natural or healthy.
"I love you." These two got so close, and this is why. I was expecting Carol to say thanks to Daryl in the last episode for looking for Sophia the way he did.
Even now this scene holds up as one of the best in the show's history. As much as people rip on Season 2 for being "boring" it gave us so much development that we needed. Carol is ready, waiting and willing for Daryl to hit her because she's used to it, Daryl wants Carol to keep interjecting with her own criticism. This is probably one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in recent television.
The issue I have with season 2 is that for every good bit of dialogue there is, there’s a fuckton of bad dialogue too. Eventually the episodes just kind of turned into this compilation of scenes with exclusively talking and exposure.
This is probably one of my favorite scenes of the show. Daryl is struggling with himself and Carol knows this and comes to check on.him to make sure he doesn't pull away. She even states it and says that he has earned his keep. Daryl has issues trusting people. The lost Sofia gave him a purpose. He said those things to Carol to push her away. He is scared and alone but she will be there for him.
I love the quite strength Carol has developed since Ed was killed. I really hope they keep her around because she is one of my favorite characters and Melisa is a wonderful actress!
One thing that always hits me the most about characters being abused is the emptiness they feel. I mean just seeing a similar emotonless or zero reaction like Carlo had on while Daryl just lashed out, really gives me an idea of how long she has been used to that kind of bad treatment. Admittedly as someone who barely understands the trauma of abuse, really hit me hard. Then the part of her instincts kicks in on just readying for the moment of being hit by Daryl, really set the tone further for me at the thought of someone reacting like towards me.
When Daryl is yelling at her, "You have no husband, no daughter" he is really voicing his own situation, he is completely alone. He has no family,no partner,no place in anyone's life. This group of survivors is the closest family unit he has had in a long time. He let himself become attached, and now the pain of that is too much for him to bear,so he lashes out. I love the unspoken friendship/relationship between the two of them. Even if it doesn't become romantic.It is a deep resounding one.
I know you posted this 8 years ago but that was such a perfect analysis. I'm rewatching the series again for the hundredth time and this scene always stuck out to me. I could just never put into words the significance of this scene. Super powerful and heartbreaking.
I love how they juxtapose Darryl with internally stronger characters. Carol in this season is still very physically weak but she is internally strong with having being abused by her husband Ed. Darryl is internally weakened by how rough he grew up and having to rely on himself and sometimes his brother. Later in the series we see Darryl alone with Beth who like carol in season 2 is physically weak. But she calls Darryl out on all his fronts. He breaks down and she was there to catch him. I miss this walking Dead. I haven’t watched since Glenn met Negan.
they've come so far since this scene. you can tell in the more recent episodes, the way they are around one another. they have a strong connection, no one can deny that.
daryl's face when he realizes he almost hit carol breaks my heart. all daryl has ever known is violence & he grew up being taught that hurting someone is the only way to make them understand. carol's marriage taught her the same thing & i think that when daryl saw her flinch away,almost subconciously accepting the blow that she thought was coming, he began to realize that carol & everyone else in the group were slowly drawing him away from the vicious habits that merle & his family taught him.
I love this to bit!! When I first saw it and Daryl said that she had no husband, no daughter and that she was all alone I felt he was describing himself. He's all alone too. And he seems to say everything in the book to push her away, yet she stayed. When he said "Sophia wasn't mine!" I felt that he sort of wished she were, or that he at least had family in all of this chaos.
I love that Daryl stopped when she flinched. Knowing that Daryl went through abuse with his father, it seems like he realized just how much he was acting like his father. He's taken aback and he just kind of... stares
i actually took the scene as him yelling at her but reflecting his own feelings towards himself. (HE has no one, HE'S afraid and he hates the way she makes him feel needed because he has never felt that before) then she flinches because she is used to being struck and his face after this is in shock because he would never strike her and simultaneously realizing they are on common grounds of horrible pasts.
I love the bond they share, they truly care and look out for each other and i think its moving past a simply friendship and hopefully into something more. I think when they found Sophia in the barn that bond was really tested but you can see they a look here and a look there they are trying to work trough it and are still caring about each other. As for Daryl's out burst i think he was hurting with the lose of Sophia and that he truly felt he failed both Carol and Sophia
I don't believe he will ever strike her. He's too good for that. I also think that Carol knows that, but it's just a bad force of habit for her to flinch when a man in angry at her. I think after this experience, she trusted Daryl more for the reason that she knows he won't hit her.
I think he feeked out on Carol in the barn scene because deep down held Carol in such high esteem as aloving mother figure that when she said we dont k ow if we will find her it was. Like her giving up.He was destroyed in that moment because he thought he had met so one better than anyone he had ever met
I remember analysing this was the way of daryl mourning Sophia, I think one or two episodes prior to that he told Carol about the folklore of a blossom flower they saw and how it was a good omen for missing people, how a flower would never blosson for his brother so it was probably Sophia, he allowed himself to be vulnerable when Carol was the only one looking, this scene is the kill of a witness, he was "fixing" someone who saw him by pretending to be someone else
Carol just stands there and doesn't defend herself and Daryl doesn't know wtf to do with that so he just keeps throwing insults at her. Damn. This show used to be so good.
it looked like he was about to hit her but caught himself at the last second. the look in his eye you could tell he felt bad and wanted to take half of it back, relizing he went to far.
anyone else notice how calm Carol is being yelled at? That just tells you her husband (Ed) was so abusive towards her, she numbed herself to handle it.
Wow, you really analyzed that well. I'm impressed. I got most o what you said when I watched this scene (before reading what you wrote) But there was a few ideas that I did not get. I also got the vibe she wanted him to hit her when she said "Go ahead" But he seemed confused. This was a really good, strong scene.
I agree with what you thinking, but would add that in some way Daryl's rage is also venting his feelings of loss. He knows she was always there for Sophie and what happened was not her (or anyone elses fault) He feels he has failed. I think one of the reasons Daryl is such popular character is the way Norman plays him.. He's a lost little boy and we want to hug him.. at least I do :)
I think he was all pissed because when he was a kid nobody cared about him and when Carol didn't go to sophias funeral he was mad because it seemed like she didn't care about sophia(even though she did) and he didn't get why she didn't want to go.
He really cared and wanted to find Sophia for Carol he is torn up inside because he couldn those words weren't directed at Carol they were for him he needed to hear that because he did feel responsible.. so sad
Every time I was this scene, it breaks my heart. I just love how even though Carol is grieving the loss of her daughter, she still bottles that in to let Daryl have his rant. Such a good look between them at the end.
This was the pivotal point where Carol began to change into the warrior that she would be for the rest of the series. Sophia dying reduced Carol to ashes, and Daryl scorning her caused her to rise like a phoenix from her own ashes.
....I miss this Smart-ass/Asshole. Now, unfortunately we're just stuck with the Daryl voice that almost makes him sound like The Caped Crusader. If I wanted Batman then dammit I'd buy the damn DVD of the Michael Keaton Bat movie.and MAYBE, juuust one with Christian Bale (only so I can get a laugh from his extremely try hard depiction. Of the Batman character! ; ) Its distracting the way Daryl sounds whenever he mumbles om about needing to quit bumming damn Menthols from The Governors "Brownie"..???as good ol Merle would call him.lol Douchebags smoked a carton of unfiltered Marlboro Red 100s
I've learned to pity carol. She spent her whole marriage to that piece of shit in fear. She forgot what it meant to protect her daughter. Season 3 was a turning point for her character. She went too far in season 4 but in all honesty Karen and David wouldve died anyway. We've grown attached to Daryl because he calls out people on their bullshit and doesn't waste time protecting the group. It doesn't hurt that he's handsome too lol
I believe Daryl was afraid to let anyone in back then. He was always a loner and no friends, no family just his brother. But he learned to be around people now. I love him so much he better not die in season 10.
In the behind the scenes, both Norman Reedus and Melissa McBride said that Daryl was about to hit her but caught himself. I think that also shows a lot, that he almost resorted to it, especially when it was Carol, and Ed did it to her all the time. I don't think it's in his nature to hit women, either, but it definitely showed more about him and his anger. And I was in a ball and crying when he sat in the prison and threw a fit when he thought she was dead. All the emotions!
She knew he was talking about Sophia from a place of deep hurt and for that reason couldn’t hate him. Daryl was the one person in the group that, better than anyone, understood what pain she was going through in that moment.
it's so weird to see this knowing how their friendship is now.
Its opposite ends of what happens to abuse victims. one timid, the other angry but both are sad.
Daryl: “if anything happens to her I’ll kill you” (I don’t remember what he said other than being bitten and being struck by lightening)
And how less he talks lol
@@antoniawinchester he talks more now
Daryl angry bcz he care about Sophia
I love how Daryl was taken aback when Carol was ready to take a hit. He didn't know how to take that at all
He was abused too so it probably pissed him/offended greatly that she would think that low of him
@@King710. I can see where you are coming from. I personally believe that he felt bad for yelling at her after realising that she is used to being hit. It messed daryl up because he didn't know. That's my opinion
@@King710. other way around possibly, that he related and empathized with her. Maybe both your suggestion and mine combined. Maybe he even hated himself a little. All of these are possible and it's most likely he felt all at the same time.
i never noticed. just her looking down made all the difference.
I thought he felt a little bad because out of instinct she flinched when he got too close and he knows what it's like to live with someone who is abusive.
Their relationship will forever be the most special one in the series. hands down
so true
Friendship *
yes relationship
"I Found Them"
- Rick before blown the f*cking Bridge
@@carl9939 friendship is also relationship
That moment when he realised she thought he was gonna hit him hit me RIGHT in the feels omfg.
I bet it brought back memories of her being hit by Ed....
He gets that feeling because he knows what it’s like since I think from some small scenes it shows he was abused by his parents and he knows what abuse is like
@@emmaelonis8989 and it probably brought back memory’s of his dad hitting him
i broke my eyes reading that
@@AK_-xn1fm That's the beautiful part of their relationship. Both are stoic, but troubled souls who, for the longest time, have had to roll with the punches. The apocalypse, in a way, was what woke them up and allowed them to grow, even if it took a long time. In a way, it's a microcosm of The Walking Dead itself.
I think Daryl got worked up because he's not used to a person caring about him. His parents sure as hell didn't, not to mention his dad used him as a human punching bag. Just like Daryl said when he was in the woods; Merle talks big but he was never there; he didn't protect Daryl like he said he did. When he got lost, his father didn't even notice his absence. To have Carol care about him is foreign to him, and doesn't know how to react to it. I'm guessing that since Daryl hasn't had anyone to care for him, he thought Carol was faking it, so in result, pushed her away and was mean, just so that he didn't get hurt like he usually did.
This makes me cry a lot.
Ninfaviola This makes me want to cry as well
Right on, Friend :)
I really like this comment..
Darryls brother cared for him. He even looked up to his brother
Look how far they've come.
Yes, you're so right!
Umm the boltons are dead
@@MichaelNOLearyLol 😂 seeing your comment after 6 years made me feel nostalgic about GOT😢
That's so sad she thought he was going to hit her 😢😭
It's not in Daryl's nature when the kid randle talked about raping and beating the girls he went crazy he may be bad ass but he has a heart
Daryl would never hit her, knowing what he's been through I don't think he'd put someone through the same pain.
Worldwideex Quite the contrary. Abused children very often become abusers in aduld life, and Daryl seems to have those tendencies (look how he manhandled Beth in Still). Of course he is now trying hard to be a good person but he has anger managment issues and I can easily see him as a guy who hits a girl in a heat of a moment and apologizes later because he feels guilty (he did it to some extent when he called Carol a bitch and then felt bad about it)
They're both abuse victims. Wow. My poor heart
Diana Bravestorm he got pissed when he heard that
I love reading peoples analysis of this scene.
my take on it is that they both had guilt and blamed themselves for Sophia. some say Carol wanted to be hit or yelled at, i think thats true. but Daryl wanted her to yell back and wanted her to hate him for "letting" Sophia die. notice every time he says something mean he pauses expecting backlash but he gets none. so he says worse and worse things, still hoping she'll fight him but she doesnt, because she knows that what he truly needs is to just get all the anger out and realize that she doesnt hate or blame him, even if he thinks that he wants to be hurt.
I agree with all of that. I definitely think they both wanted to be yelled at. Here's my take on it:
Between this scene and the scene where Daryl yells at Beth, he shows that he holds the deaths of people who are important to him on his conscience. And the scene where he describes to Carl how he found out his own mother died is what made me think it deeply affects Daryl when other people are dealing with kids losing parents and parents losing kids and that maybe he associates that kind of death with guilt. And Carol, who was beaten by her husband for years and held the weight of that so her daughter wouldn't have to, learned to associate love with pain and often demonstrates tough love with people. I think she wanted to be shown that tough love, to be slapped with emotion. They both force themselves to feel the guilt because they think they deserve it, and I think the moment Daryl stopped yelling is the moment he began to realize neither of them really deserved it. It's such a layered moment with two very layered characters.
+Plucky Bellhop Nice analysis!
Thank you :)
This. I can imagine that Carol was desperate to be punished for not protecting Sophia, and a full on verbal assault from Daryl was just what she wanted. Your take on Daryl rings with so much truth.
I applaud standing
I think when Daryl said "your afraid cause your all alone" that went deeper than his anger towards CArol here. I think it applies to him too; he hasn't got anyone either and he knows it. This rant is his way of making someone else feel like he feels: alone, angry and worthless (because he blames himself for not finding Sophia, he feels like is not needed anymore) because it makes him feel less alone in his torment.
Wow that was deep.
Daryl wasn't angry at Carol, here. He was irritated that she returned to his private campsite, after earlier events.. but not directly angry at her. If were the case, then he would have have just turned and walked away from Carol. But he didn't. This was all just misdirected frustration over losing Sophia.
And yes.. This was indeed a deeply impacted scene
Haha. I love how you said 'wow that was deep' after your own comment! That's something I would do! Haha.
Man, you know jack!
He was projecting and carol knew it, and afterwards Daryl realized it too
@@ello_beautiful_3098 i mean wow it is deep
Daryl from season 7 would kick Daryl's ass from season 2 for that!
Yes, I think so!
Люба Ва Negan would kill all seson Daryls
@@jhnwik469 stfu
Carol from season 5 would have kicked his ass too haha 😂
@@quietfireca its sad how she said "go ahead" expecting a beating like what ed dud
00:57 ALLYAHADTODOWASKEEPANEYEONHER!
Now I can't watch that without laughing thanks bro
brandon teasley OML I hate you for this 😂😂
brandon teasley DUUUDE OML NOW IM DYIN OF LAUGHTER😂😂😂 MAN!!! 4 a sec i thought he was speaking gibberish...
Oh, so that's what he said, okay)))
brandon teasley LOL
I think the reason he acted this way is because he had never been treated this way. After Carol kissed him on the head and said 'You're every bit as good as them, every bit' he didn't know how to react. He reacted the only way he knew how, get angry. To me, that's how you know he loves her. Like someone said earlier, behind anger is hurt and behind hurt is love.
Um no. Verbal abuse does not equal love regardless of what the person feels "behind hurt".
i can definitely relate with your last sentence
Facts
@@JazzyB9481he didn't hit her tho
When she flinched it just broke my heart :( at least her husband isn't there to beat her up anymore :D when the walkers got him in his tent I celebrated kind of :)
Yeah me to. The worst part about Ed was with Sophia though
+Annie Leonhardt why do you just have a picture of annie's nose?
Ed was such a dick.
Kind of i did
I want to high five that walker
Both characters suffered abuse in the past and that's one of the reasons why they were able to relate and care for one another, two great actors.
"Behind anger is hurt and behind hurt is love" it's from the movie Funny People but it makes a lot of sense.
great quote!
quietfireca why Daryl is angry for Carol?
+jesu -97 grief
Daryl on his worst day was still better man than Ed. This is him angry because her daughter was killed.
0:54 "Sophia wasn't mine, all you had to do was keep an eye on her!" There are a few sentences in this show that gets me in my feelings and this is one of them. One of the other lines is when Rick said to the group "I didn't ask to be your leader. I killed my best friend for you people for Christ sake!"
For you people how he might as well said for saving my ass cause Shane had him at a gun point
I feel super bad for Carol here but I felt even more bad for Daryl he was honestly the main person encouraging Carol to keep hope alive on finding Sophie he even promised her she was still alive and they would find her. Basically Daryle went back to giving up hope and being like his older brother Meryl it was sad he went backwards here.
@@THIZzSCO415yeah and its a bit weird that daryl seemed more upset then Sophia's own mother.
Carol is a sweet woman, i love this character
***** i still love her character
+jsoloriov She bakes great cookies too, just ask Sam.
+burrichgrrl57 u can't now lol
TWD CARYL I know. That walker was on him like is head was a candy apple!
+burrichgrrl57 His mom made a tasty snack, too.
"Sofia wasn't mine!" shows how badly Daryl wanted to find that little girl alive and how much her death really hit him, a visceral anger at the loss of an innocents life. No wonder Carol stuck by him.
I was eating a peach when Daryl said arent you a peach I spit it out
+Savannah Doggett oh geez. LOL
omg 😂😂
Lol
*cool story bro...*
Thier friendship is heartshape❤ hence peaches look like the butt of hearts
This scene was Daryl's first major breakthrough for his character development. "Sophia wasn't even mine!" Gave him away completely, that he did care this whole time and that he is in pain with her passing. His whole rant before that line is him trying to make it seem like he didn't care, but then he says that and he realizes his whole rant was pointless because he did care.
0:43 I find this part so interesting, cause he’s intentionally insulting her to hurt her and push her away, but all of what he says is so similar to himself. I think it applies to him as well. And I think it shows his own fear, and how he felt like he had to push her away to protect himself, like a defense mechanism of sorts. He didn’t know how to deal with someone actually caring about him, he didn’t know how that felt, and it was overwhelming.
Very interesting insight wow!
I think when Daryl said that she had nobody was when he realized that HE had nobody either.
Loved this...she was taking care of him and he was doing the the same for her without knowing it ...they are soulmates ...
I do love this scene, and really never realized how relevant it was to their relationship. Idk if I agree that she was inviting him to hit her, but saw it more as her wanting him to open up and express all his emotions after saying that she wouldn't let him pull away. Then when he's tearing into her and she flinches I think that's when he realizes just how much they are the same. When he says Sophia wasn't mine, that was just heart breaking, cause at this point no one is really his, he doesn't see himself as part of the group/family yet and is still holding himself separate. It's crazy seeing the transformation for both Daryl and Carol between season 1 and 9, it's some phenomenal acting and character development which is what makes them and this show my absolute favorite.
I agree. I came to the show late but their relationship is why I got hooked. Its not a typical one and so interesting how they see the good in each other and to fight their demons.
Their fight from S10×18 reminded me of this conversation they had back in S2. It wasn't even a fight really, it was just like this. Daryl venting out his frustration and Carol listening.
Exactly! I wish more realized that their fight in 10c and both episodes was so much more than the words they said to each other.
Daryl made it a personal quest to find Sophia because maybe this will be way to sort of clear up his past. Everything he said reflects on him. He knows there's a little boy inside him trying to prove he's a man, & finding Sophia dead made him feel like he never will. When he said "you got no husband" he meant "I don't have a father" when he said "no daughter" he meant "I don't have my brother". He's nervous, but feels like he should push her away to sort of tell himself there's no way this woman cares about me, since nobody ever did.
ehehheheheh I still love her tho even tho her kill count is through the rooooofs and she lied to Daryl
I think in this situation Daryl felt like he could relate to Sophia. He was that kid once that ended up alone in the woods when others failed to notice him gone, so he made it his personal quest to find her because he knows how bad it is. I think him getting mad at Carol is his way of taking it out at his own parent, his father for neglecting him. So deep down, he's the angry forgotten about kid and Carol is the neglectful, cold hearted father that is incapable of loving anyone, that's what he wants fo believe anyway but Carol's actions later on prove him wrong that she's not like that.
I think Daryl went all out for Sohpia because when he was getting abused, hit with a belt and everything, no body came for him. Not a single soul in the world searched or cared about Daryl Dixon
And now he is the most kindhearted soul who plays with Ricks kids and brings his freinds food at their doors for when they wake up. Plus he has become one of the best leaders (Rick was his mentor) Such an amazing development. He always had a big heart though, just hidden behind a life of hate growing up
This scene always makes me want to cry bc Carol knew that Daryl blames himself a bit for not finding Sophia and he needed to vent so she let him. But what gets me every time is the very end when you can see the fear & sadness on Carol's face as she's being brave and not cry or lash out at Daryl. She was probably used to it due to her awful husband who used to yelled and beat her up....I just love it when these two are together and so glad that they found each other to lean on through out the show.
Daryl is such an angry little boy inside. You just want to hug him. >.
@ Eris Nyx 0:40 Man, you know jack!
Glen Mazzara on this scene- "Daryl is rocked by [the barn massacre]. He wanted to be Carol's knight in shining armor and take up this quest and be the one to find that girl. He now questions his self-worth. Was he a fool to ever take on that quest? This brings up issues of his upbringing. He actually is going to hit Carol and pulls back his fist because that is his learned behavior and her learned behavior is to take it. Her generous spirit is willing to take that because she cares about him so deeply."
It's honestly hard to say who to pity more in this scene. They're both such broken, tragic people, and their interactions in this episode and the two preceding are just so poignant because of that.
When I re-watched this scene a few times, it was all clear.. ..
Daryl never fooled me .. He obviously likes Carol, here .. a lot. Otherwise he wouldn't have acted as he did earlier on (holding on her at the barn, etc) He just always lived his life in defense mode cuz that's all he knew. If he didn't like Carol, he would have just walked away and left her standing there.
Did I seriously write that comment that way? LOL! I am soooo much brighter than that! :)
What I should have said was... It was way obvious the 1st time I watched this scene from S2, that Daryl obviously had a secret thing for Carol...But was too distraught by the be-damned efforts of finding Sophia alive... Poor man. But he didn't simply walk away. He definitely had feelings for lovely Carol... He just didn't know about himself at the time.
The dire evidence was of course, the manner in which he held onto gorgeous Carol during the fateful barn scene earlier... Such care and such loving tenderness.. Any woman would have wanted to trade places with Carol :))
Daryl wouldn't have acted that way around just any woman.. Widowed Carol was different... and special :) She wasn't just an attractive woman who'd lost her beloved daughter... Daryl saw her in a very different light. And glad be that. :)
And I still can't get enough of Daryl grabbing onto her, and holding her... during that barn scene.... I watch it in slow-mo
from the moment she flinched cause she expected to be hit, Daryl would kill anyone for her... he just related to her deeply. he could see in her eyes all the pain she went through...
p.s. if they kill her off the show i'm done watching it
And him aswell
Theyre both still alive at a war right now ..both kicking asses
Yep! True! I hope they stay alive for a long time :)
She was so used to ed hitting her when he was mad she expected daryl to do the same
Damn , some great acting right here .
Carol character development one of my favorite from scared to being able to strategically take out armies n shi
i love how daryl isnt afraid to say what he thinks. i dont blame his for snapping. he had a rough life and he was worried as hell about sophia
They're very amazing actors. Such an intense scene! The way she reacts to his yelling.. It didn't phase her, because she'd been through it all .. The yelling , the hitting , the rudeness.. She's such a strong character.. Melissa portrays this character amazingly and gives Carol so much meaning.. As well as Norman..
Carol and Daryl have that special bond that can't ever be broken
So I’ve seen this part to many times. And I just realized when she thinks he’s gonna hit her she whimpers. Omg this makes me so sad that she thought he was gonna do that. I’m so glad they have come so far. 0:58-1:02
The line in the barn when Carol says "We don't know if we're going to find her, Daryl", gosh that line broke my heart. The first time Carol seems to strongly admit that Sofia could be dead and Daryl is so frustrated by it.
He saw her prep for a shot and he knew, from personal experience, what she was expecting and he couldn’t believe he was walking tall right into his daddy’s footsteps. It’s that moment right there that a man determines if he’s going to walk that same path, or forge his own. Glad the writers had Daryl forge his own path alongside Rick.
When Carol kinda flinches towards the end, I like how Daryl almost immediately stops.
Beautiful scene. Daryl and Carol are the best.
You're right, it really is a wonderful scene. So telling.
Daryl is ferrel and carol is steral a match mad in ..... He'll 😝
@@flaresparks7265 norman posted that video recently when the show ended hahaha
Anyone else fall apart at the look on his face when she flinches away from him? It kills me every time, because in my head I can't help but keep thinking, he must have flinched like that so many times because of his dad. 😭😭 I don't ship them but the show would be nothing without their bond it means more to me than is probably natural or healthy.
Caitlin Percy and how Carol was hit by ed.....
S2: "You don't know what to do with yourself, and you ain't my problem."
Finale: "I love you." "I love you, too."
I just love how powerful this scene was...i got a little teary for both of them
Agree and me too...
I love this scene, because it shows both their pain. After this moment, they grew closer and closer.
He needed to get his anger out. She knew that. And he stopped when she flinched
This is the intensity and kind of arguments that people who care for each other have
"I love you." These two got so close, and this is why. I was expecting Carol to say thanks to Daryl in the last episode for looking for Sophia the way he did.
you can see it in her eyes. From this moment Carol was transforming into a dangerous and deadly woman.
Dan K Daryl told her she had no purpose. So she became Rambo Carol.
0:57 "ALLYAHADTODOWASKEEPANEYEONER!!!"
Daryl not finding Sophia really hurt him. Especially when you consider he got shot in the face looking for her
Even now this scene holds up as one of the best in the show's history. As much as people rip on Season 2 for being "boring" it gave us so much development that we needed. Carol is ready, waiting and willing for Daryl to hit her because she's used to it, Daryl wants Carol to keep interjecting with her own criticism. This is probably one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in recent television.
The issue I have with season 2 is that for every good bit of dialogue there is, there’s a fuckton of bad dialogue too. Eventually the episodes just kind of turned into this compilation of scenes with exclusively talking and exposure.
I love how Carol becomes a bad ass down the road. I love the character shes become. Definitely one of my favorite actors on the show.
This is probably one of my favorite scenes of the show. Daryl is struggling with himself and Carol knows this and comes to check on.him to make sure he doesn't pull away. She even states it and says that he has earned his keep. Daryl has issues trusting people. The lost Sofia gave him a purpose. He said those things to Carol to push her away. He is scared and alone but she will be there for him.
I love the quite strength Carol has developed since Ed was killed. I really hope they keep her around because she is one of my favorite characters and Melisa is a wonderful actress!
One thing that always hits me the most about characters being abused is the emptiness they feel. I mean just seeing a similar emotonless or zero reaction like Carlo had on while Daryl just lashed out, really gives me an idea of how long she has been used to that kind of bad treatment. Admittedly as someone who barely understands the trauma of abuse, really hit me hard. Then the part of her instincts kicks in on just readying for the moment of being hit by Daryl, really set the tone further for me at the thought of someone reacting like towards me.
God...where they are now.
She knew his pain, and was willing to take his blows, to help him heal.
Today they're best friends ~ a relationship.
When Daryl is yelling at her, "You have no husband, no daughter" he is really voicing his own situation, he is completely alone. He has no family,no partner,no place in anyone's life. This group of survivors is the closest family unit he has had in a long time. He let himself become attached, and now the pain of that is too much for him to bear,so he lashes out. I love the unspoken friendship/relationship between the two of them. Even if it doesn't become romantic.It is a deep resounding one.
I know you posted this 8 years ago but that was such a perfect analysis. I'm rewatching the series again for the hundredth time and this scene always stuck out to me. I could just never put into words the significance of this scene. Super powerful and heartbreaking.
I was a fascinating scene. Such wonderful character development with these two over the years.
I love how they juxtapose Darryl with internally stronger characters. Carol in this season is still very physically weak but she is internally strong with having being abused by her husband Ed. Darryl is internally weakened by how rough he grew up and having to rely on himself and sometimes his brother. Later in the series we see Darryl alone with Beth who like carol in season 2 is physically weak. But she calls Darryl out on all his fronts. He breaks down and she was there to catch him. I miss this walking Dead. I haven’t watched since Glenn met Negan.
You should jump back in. You've missed half the adventure. It's worth it. Flaws and all
they've come so far since this scene. you can tell in the more recent episodes, the way they are around one another. they have a strong connection, no one can deny that.
daryl's face when he realizes he almost hit carol breaks my heart. all daryl has ever known is violence & he grew up being taught that hurting someone is the only way to make them understand. carol's marriage taught her the same thing & i think that when daryl saw her flinch away,almost subconciously accepting the blow that she thought was coming, he began to realize that carol & everyone else in the group were slowly drawing him away from the vicious habits that merle & his family taught him.
after 11 seasons i waited for a long time Daryl finaly tells Carol as a friend he loves her that scene made me cry happy tears
I love this to bit!!
When I first saw it and Daryl said that she had no husband, no daughter and that she was all alone I felt he was describing himself.
He's all alone too.
And he seems to say everything in the book to push her away, yet she stayed.
When he said "Sophia wasn't mine!" I felt that he sort of wished she were, or that he at least had family in all of this chaos.
I love that Daryl stopped when she flinched. Knowing that Daryl went through abuse with his father, it seems like he realized just how much he was acting like his father. He's taken aback and he just kind of... stares
i actually took the scene as him yelling at her but reflecting his own feelings towards himself. (HE has no one, HE'S afraid and he hates the way she makes him feel needed because he has never felt that before) then she flinches because she is used to being struck and his face after this is in shock because he would never strike her and simultaneously realizing they are on common grounds of horrible pasts.
I love the bond they share, they truly care and look out for each other and i think its moving past a simply friendship and hopefully into something more. I think when they found Sophia in the barn that bond was really tested but you can see they a look here and a look there they are trying to work trough it and are still caring about each other. As for Daryl's out burst i think he was hurting with the lose of Sophia and that he truly felt he failed both Carol and Sophia
I don't believe he will ever strike her. He's too good for that. I also think that Carol knows that, but it's just a bad force of habit for her to flinch when a man in angry at her. I think after this experience, she trusted Daryl more for the reason that she knows he won't hit her.
I think he feeked out on Carol in the barn scene because deep down held Carol in such high esteem as aloving mother figure that when she said we dont k ow if we will find her it was. Like her giving up.He was destroyed in that moment because he thought he had met so one better than anyone he had ever met
SO.MUCH.TENSION. GAHHHH I love them together. I hope to God he goes out and finds her.
Me, too!
they need to be together
I remember analysing this was the way of daryl mourning Sophia, I think one or two episodes prior to that he told Carol about the folklore of a blossom flower they saw and how it was a good omen for missing people, how a flower would never blosson for his brother so it was probably Sophia, he allowed himself to be vulnerable when Carol was the only one looking, this scene is the kill of a witness, he was "fixing" someone who saw him by pretending to be someone else
Carol just stands there and doesn't defend herself and Daryl doesn't know wtf to do with that so he just keeps throwing insults at her. Damn. This show used to be so good.
Poor Daryl. I know because he's yelling like that and talking the way he is he's hurting a lot. He really liked her :(
This makes me sad. They've come so far... Caryl for life btw...💞
Oh, you're so right. This is ancient (but important!) history now. I haven't watched this in ages. Yes, they've come so far.
it looked like he was about to hit her but caught himself at the last second. the look in his eye you could tell he felt bad and wanted to take half of it back, relizing he went to far.
anyone else notice how calm Carol is being yelled at? That just tells you her husband (Ed) was so abusive towards her, she numbed herself to handle it.
Wow, you really analyzed that well. I'm impressed. I got most o what you said when I watched this scene (before reading what you wrote) But there was a few ideas that I did not get. I also got the vibe she wanted him to hit her when she said "Go ahead" But he seemed confused. This was a really good, strong scene.
I agree with what you thinking, but would add that in some way Daryl's rage is also venting his feelings of loss. He knows she was always there for Sophie and what happened was not her (or anyone elses fault) He feels he has failed. I think one of the reasons Daryl is such popular character is the way Norman plays him.. He's a lost little boy and we want to hug him.. at least I do :)
I like to think that Carol saw the good in Daryl during this scene, much like Dale did.
He isnt just talking about her he is talking about himself aswell that is what makes this sad
thanks for the whole explanation! it helped a lot! i didn't understand daryl's whole rant when i first saw this episode....so yeh thanks to you! :)
When she said go ahead she wanted him to hit her. Everything he said she was already thinking so she wanted to be punished
The commentary for this video is brilliant; right on the mark on character analysis!! Thank you so much!
Carol said go ahead like she was ready to be hit, then she was shocked that he didnt hit her. True connection made here
I love Carol. The way she stuck by Daryl even through the most hard times. True friends right there.
I think he was all pissed because when he was a kid nobody cared about him and when Carol didn't go to sophias funeral he was mad because it seemed like she didn't care about sophia(even though she did) and he didn't get why she didn't want to go.
He really cared and wanted to find Sophia for Carol he is torn up inside because he couldn those words weren't directed at Carol they were for him he needed to hear that because he did feel responsible.. so sad
Dammmm I don’t remember this long time
Every time I was this scene, it breaks my heart. I just love how even though Carol is grieving the loss of her daughter, she still bottles that in to let Daryl have his rant. Such a good look between them at the end.
This was the pivotal point where Carol began to change into the warrior that she would be for the rest of the series. Sophia dying reduced Carol to ashes, and Daryl scorning her caused her to rise like a phoenix from her own ashes.
You're description really helped me out. I loved this scene, but didn't really catch all the little details. Thank you for posting (:
Compare this scene to when they hug at the start of season 5 💔
Yeah! That hug scene always makes me cry. Daryl and Carol's love & friendship were so beautifully captured
....I miss this Smart-ass/Asshole.
Now, unfortunately we're just stuck with the Daryl voice that almost makes him sound like The Caped Crusader. If I wanted Batman then dammit I'd buy the damn DVD of the Michael Keaton Bat movie.and MAYBE, juuust one with Christian Bale (only so I can get a laugh from his extremely try hard depiction. Of the Batman character! ; )
Its distracting the way Daryl sounds whenever he mumbles om about needing to quit bumming damn Menthols from The Governors "Brownie"..???as good ol Merle would call him.lol
Douchebags smoked a carton of unfiltered Marlboro Red 100s
If I had to pick my favorite scene out of the whole show I would choose that hug
I've learned to pity carol. She spent her whole marriage to that piece of shit in fear. She forgot what it meant to protect her daughter. Season 3 was a turning point for her character. She went too far in season 4 but in all honesty Karen and David wouldve died anyway. We've grown attached to Daryl because he calls out people on their bullshit and doesn't waste time protecting the group. It doesn't hurt that he's handsome too lol
I believe Daryl was afraid to let anyone in back then. He was always a loner and no friends, no family just his brother. But he learned to be around people now. I love him so much he better not die in season 10.
0:54 - 1:00 is SUCH a good delivery. You can feel the frustration and just. I can’t even find the right words.
In the behind the scenes, both Norman Reedus and Melissa McBride said that Daryl was about to hit her but caught himself. I think that also shows a lot, that he almost resorted to it, especially when it was Carol, and Ed did it to her all the time. I don't think it's in his nature to hit women, either, but it definitely showed more about him and his anger.
And I was in a ball and crying when he sat in the prison and threw a fit when he thought she was dead. All the emotions!
Watching this after seeing their relationship in the last seasons is just amazing
Even as much as Carol has grown in later seasons, I'm guessing if daryl screamed at her like this again she would still react like this
She knew he was talking about Sophia from a place of deep hurt and for that reason couldn’t hate him. Daryl was the one person in the group that, better than anyone, understood what pain she was going through in that moment.