Buying Your First Guitar - Squier Starter Pack
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sweet child of mine
played on a squier strat
through a noisy pack in fender amp
that is a sound i know all too well
it is a sound i wished never to hear again
i'm fucking stuck with bullet strat and frontman 10g..
nikola mandic There's nothing wrong with a 10 or 15 watt Frontman Amp as a practice Amp or a bedroom Amp & you could do a LOT worse than a Bullet Strat too - They are actually pretty good values. I play a Telecaster, but I picked up a Bullet Strat HH & Frontman 10 for practice - I think they both perform very well & are easy to tote to & from practice. Enjoy what you have, as long as you're making music, it's all good. :)
Nikola, the bullet strats are actually pretty decent for the money, I've been playing guitar for around 8 years now and have several guitars in my arsenal, but the one I play the most is a Squire Bullet Affinity Strat that I picked up for $89 at guitar center on a holiday sale. I had them do a good setup on it and replaced the tuning knobs with Fender locking tuners and it plays and sounds great! It's one of my favorites, if you're not happy with the tone just invest in a little higher quality amp, you can get an Orange practice size amp for fairly cheap and they sound great, and they'll make that guitar sound fantastic.
John Stephens the guitarist in my old band had a 5 year old bullet strat with a nail under the bridge pickup
it sounded amazing
Matt Lee 3:14 your welcome
"its loud enough to really annoy your parents." I'm sold. haha.
lml
+SRT Viper 51 10 watts? my first amp was 50!
+Mopar Matt's Garage I've never really been able to play loud. even now I just have an 15 watt line 6 spider lV. plenty loud, small enough to fit anywhere and good sound quality.
SRT Viper 51 i recommend a epiphone studio 15r, they are cheap, durable,and have overdrive and reverb. it has a total output of 32 watts. and u must note it has 2 inputs, so a friend can plug in ,too.
+Mopar Matt's Garage yeah that's the only thing the line 6 is missing, overdrive or something for a really distorted sound. but i got it for a hundred bucks so not complaining!
The Affinity series guitars are actually very decent, it's the tiny Frontman amp that makes them sound bad. For a beginner, I'd recommend finding a Squier that you like, and then investing a little bit more money to get a nicer amp. Believe me, it's totally worth it.
Right, Get a decent begininner guitar and an amp that you are going to have for awhile like a marshall combo or fender.
Chris Horton Yeah, basically!
Truth. Our guitarist uses this Tele through a Mustang III and it's unbelievable how good it sounds.
I don't think the frontman 15g was a really bad amp.
I use it for the clean sounds with treble:9 middle:2 or 3 and bass on 10.
For the dirty sounds, use pedals :)
See I tend to guide beginning guitar players towards the Vintage Modified series. I find the overall build is a better as well, they come stock with Duncan Designed pickups, giving them an over all better tone. It will also last longer than the Chinese made affinity guitars (In my experience). Spend a bit more money to get a bit more play time out of it! Just my opinion though.
People trash squier guitars but for the money you can't beat them. 30 years ago cheap guitars were unplayable. It's just amazing what you can get today for so little money
Squire classic vibe guitars are amazing
Can't beat Squier for the cash? Sure you can: Epiphone. lol
+Ethan Cousineau no Epiphone is quite a bit more money so no you can't
Vladimir Lopez Ya I was joking lol. You'll probably pay $150 for a base Epi for just the guitar. But you get what you pay for. I'd just prefer to spend a bit more cash to get something I'll want to play.
+Ethan Cousineau I hear you me too. But it's good for people with little money or a parent looking to start a kid off cheaply.
Why am I watching this? I know all this stuff and I have been playing for ten years now...
I'm personally watching so I can scold myself on making poor choices when I was a beginner in terms of getting shit instruments and amps. As of now I'm happy with my equipment but looking back on the shit that I thought was good. I feel like an idiot!
+Matthew Healy Me to, back in the day a starterskit looked like a good idea, but in the end you get a shitty guitar with an shitty amp, and only the tuner is really usable for your whole live, what a value..
+GTN drums these are starter packages and they sound decent
they look fine but aren't decent, at least not the ones I encountered
then why are you watching this? never mind iv been playing for a long time to so
I felt ripped off when I bought this starter pack... I was never told that it wouldn't include me being able to play like Rob Chapman right out of the box!!! I'm going to return it and get the Epiphone LP starter pack... I bet I can sound like Jimmy Page right out of the box!!!
+ZootSuitWolf So I have to ask. Do you sound like Page, yet?
SamuraiBatgirl Yes!!! I have the same guitar skills as Betty Page!!! :oD
ZootSuitWolf :D
ZootSuitWolf
Lmfao!
This is where it all started! So many musicians owe their beginning to these guys :)
This is for all the new or intermediate guitarists thinking of purchasing a squier.
Back in 2005 my first guitar was a cheap $150 Squier bullet with the amp combo, I was so excited because my other friends just started playing the same time as me but they all had jackson guitars or gibson SG as their first guitars and i couldn't afford that and they would always tease me that i got a "cheap shitty guitar" and said I should have saved for a "real" fender strat
it almost discouraged me from learning guitar
HOWEVER
Its now 2017 I now have a few american and mexican made strats, an ibanez prestige, a les paul studio, and a gibson firebird and to this day I still own and play that first Squier regularly. it still has the same pickups and everything aside from the strings I havent changed anything on that guitar and its lasted me 12 years. I even bought another squire for $100 just because.
Sure the Squier doesn't sound as good as my other guitars but its really light weight and its fun to play and I feel having a guitar that is fun to play is they key for any guitarist to stick with the instrument.
My only advice is if you're new to guitar playing and you decide to get a squier bring it to a professional and have it setup properly or even ask your sales associate if they would do it for you or you can research and learn to set the intonation yourself and I promise you you'll have a good time learning to play on this guitar if its set properly.
Also having a decent amp makes a world of difference.
Basically to anyone reading don't be discouraged by what people say and dont think just because a guitar says squier or epiphone or whatever and people consider it a "beginner" or "learning" guitar its a bad instrument you dont need an american made custom strat or a les paul or some expensive guitar to sound good especially when learning the main thing is having a decent amp, and a properly setup guitar, and some good pickups later down the line if you can afford it.
Daniel - I know a couple guys that couldn't (at the time) afford even a 'cheap shitty guitar' and had to build 'em. I dunno, I think Brian and Eddie did "okay", eh?
DanielConley dude I just wanted you to know that I followed your advise... my bullet Strat is just fine... after a few month I did change the tuners to fender locking tuners and its a great guitar... the fender frontman 10g is ok, but I dont like the fact that doesn’t have reverb ...anyway what you get for the money is great.
@@winstonzendejas Very cool to hear that my advice helped! After reading my original reply and your comment I was thinking "man, I forgot to mention changing the tuners lol"
Glad you're enjoying the guitar you decided to. Also its 2020 and I still have that same squier I was talking about in my original post just different tuners, pickups, and odds and ends I wonder how long I'll have that thing haha
Its common problem. Majority of guitar users doesent know how to setup their guitar. So when they buy something cheaper (not set up) they give instrument label as pice of shit.
"It's loud enough to really annoy your parents, on full volume"
All I need to know
Exactly, sign me up now.
mine is loud enough to annoy my parents at volune mark 3 never mind 10
Alex Rooney I put mine at 10 on the guitar, and between 1 and 2 on the guitar, and it's so damn loud.
I can't haveit anywhere above like 2 and a bit or it is way too loud and my bedroom is connected to the bedroom of the old owman who lives nexytdoor and I feel really xorry for her!
Fred ikr
I am ordering the Squire Affinity package tonight. This will be my first guitar. I will have so much fun!
How's it going so far?
PeachyKeen73 Yup! Just wanted to make sure you're still shredding. Don't stop!
I got mine a few days ago
did you get the affinity strat or tele ? i think im buying the tele one soon
Tunisian Atheist Afinnity strat
I see a shit ton of people on here going "err well that amp is shit, this is shit, that is shit, etc." but in reality are you some big guitarist who's been doing this shit for years saying that these are shit compared to what you play on now, which would be something more expensive obviously. The point I see as someone looking to get into playing, is that these are a cheap way to dip your toes into the water, none of us beginners are willing to throw a ton of money at something diving head first into it when we aren't 100% sure that we'll stick with it. And no I don't mean "err this guitar doesn't sound the best, it's uncomfortable to play, etc." I'm talking about gaining the skill to play and keep working at it. Because at the end of the day if I get the hang of playing and get more into it, then sure I'll invest more money into it. I'm not looking to get the best of the best right off the bat. It's a cheap guitar of course it's not going to sound like some $1,000 or even $500 guitar. That's why they are cheap. It's not to play shows with, it doesn't have to sound the best, it's to learn on.
A Fender Mustang II costs $200 and an Omen 6 Schecter costs $300. That's $350 (when including cable, picks, stand, tuner and strap) more than the kit and if the person actually is into it, they won't have to upgrade if they get into it. If you get the guitar used (A local music store is selling one for $235) then the difference will be less.
orlock20 I'm picking one up for 100 bucks. And that's Canadian money so basicly 70 us
orlock20 The guitarist in my band had a fender mustang 2 and it sounded like crap, after that amp, hearing any other amp sounds like heaven
elneutrino90
I know that solid state amp's artificial gain tends to not sound good to some people, but the clean stuff seems to always sound good at least on You Tube. The V1 and V2 models sound different.
Are you sure is wasn't a Mustang I, because those have a 8" speaker and therefore would sound bad.
orlock20 I don't know, but when I had to buy my own amp I was so traumatized from the mustang that I looked for an amp without effects because, as you said, the clean channel on the mustang sounded ok, it's just that every preset effect sounded REALLY cheap to me.
My parents got me the Squier Affinity strat pack when I started learning in grade school. 10 years later, and having an Epi Les Paul and American Tele, my Squier is still a joy to pick up and play. She'll always have a place close to my heart. I may be biased, but the neck feels like it was designed for my hands, I learned so much on this guitar and been through so much with her.
zeppage4 I'm 12 and I've been playing about a year and a half and I had my sister's 8 year-old squier mini and once my parents realized I wasn't going to give up guitar they helped me get an Ibanez Rg6003fm. I enjoy it like crazy but I still go back to the squier for practice and scales. As horrendous as it is, it feels really good for some reason and when I put it down and go back to my Ibanez I feel like I'm playing a lot better
- Talking about the amp -
"It's loud enough to really annoy your parents on full volume"
HELLS YEAH I'M SOLD :D :D :D
The most discouraging thing a new electric guitar player will face is setup. My first electric stayed in the closet because it wasn't intonated properly and I had no idea why it sounded so bad. I thought I was doing something wrong. It's worth it to get a pro setup and then find a teacher that will include that amongst their lessons.
+Thomas Kirby long time ago.. I spent years as a little kid busting my ass trying to get songs to sound right and turned out my truss rod was completely loose and action was high. Sometimes it's better to go to an actual music shop and buy there. There is a big box instrument store here and they have a luthier inspect all guitars over a certain value and charge a minimum for anything "budget. That is good service.
+Thomas Kirby in my case............my first guitar was a floyd rose.........enough said
+Embracing The Madness My first electric was too, sooo many frustrations
My first electric didn't have a truss rod...or a neck pickup
+Thomas Kirby It is not really hard to do a setup. At least a basic one (intonation and string hight). I never had a guitar teacher and when I started I had no problem doing a good setup myself. After 3 months of playing I leveled and crowned the frets and exchanged the pickups in my guitar without any help. There are plenty of good youtube videos on how to do all this luthier stuff, don't ever pay 60 bucks (its that much at my local store) for a complete setup or pickup exchange. A guitar is no rocket science, there is nothing to screw up.
3:35 That face= Trying to hold it together after hearing that ear torturing amp
They sound better irl xD
I had one; no they don't Lol
Jaxon Duin are you talking about the amp or the guitar?
+Mad Swami The amp
The guitar is fine, but honestly the amp is just bad.
I started playing the guitar 6 months ago, on a cheap Elypse guitar, and a Marshall MG15DFX, wich is often referred as one of the worst Marshall amp ever... But, I had motivation, and I finally found that it's not really the gear you have that makes you a great guitar player : it's 50% motivation, and 50% work. I actually got the same level than my friends at playing the guitar, the difference is that they are playing since two years ago, and me only 6 month, but I had the motivation, and I improved my skills by playing more than 2 or 3 hours a day, everyday. This is why I think those starting pack are perfect for learning to play the guitar. Because if you stop after a couple months, it's not because of your "bad gear", but only because you had not the necessary motivation to become a great guitar player.
That's damn right 👏👏
agree completely and I have a similar story. I had a friend we don't really speak now cos we have different friends but anyway I used to admire his guitar talent and now even though I was learning through the older squier starter pack with the infamous sp10 amp although I upgraded to a blackstar ht1r anyway I now think I could near match him btw I've been playing guitar for a year and he's been playing for 5 years
+Noctuaris12 Yeah but thats the point. Bad gear (hurting frets, bad intonation, bad amps) decrease your motivation. I ran my first guitar through an interface into my PC where I added a backing track to play over and tons of cool effects (reverb, delay etc.) and then through a big stereo system which I had. Didn't need an amp and had a much better sound than most beginner amps give you. And with a nice feeling guitar, a sick sound and backing tracks or someone to jam with (which you need a better amp for as well) playing daily is no pain at all. With this rubbish it definitely is.
Marshall mg series isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. they sound better than most amps at that price, they look nice and they come with a good variety of tone and effects
Matthew Healy Wait what? They're atrocious! Compare them to any Line6 or Fender Amp in that price range. Or compare them to literally any amp. They suck.
Your best guitar: a hot GF
Your first real guitar: your loving mother
Your fist guitar: that guy in middle school you had awkward conversations with that you couldn't forget if you tried.
...I'm on my 5th beer, shut up.
***** lol, indeed..
Best guitar is your hot girlfriend? Then damn my girlfriend is gorgeous!
Ture.
What is a fist guitar?
Potatoheadahoy dang, *5 beers* thats alot
Those beginning words will always be remembered throughout my journey and I always revisit this video for that reason.
Starter guitars are like boot camp, they weed out the non hackers. Lol
Squier has gotten so much better I played one in a store not to long ago and I was really impressed with the pickup improvements
My first electric guitar was a Squier Telecaster. Absolutely loved it, but had to sell it to pay for rent! Great brand. Not everyone can buy a Standard or an American as a first guitar. You've gotta start somewhere.
Oh man that sucks, hope youre in a better financial situation now
I started on a squire, and I still think it's probably the best starter you can get, because I was able to learn all about guitars by fixing and setting it up.
It's probably one of the best feeling guitars I've ever played now.
People shouldn't knock cheap guitars, i have many guitars one being a fender tele and one being a squire affinity strat and i can honestly say that the strat is one of my favourites to play. In my opinion i think they are designed to be partscasters for the buyer to do what they want, but they are also great stock
Its all about the player and their motives
My first guitar was a $110 Epiphone Les Paul Jr. Surprisingly great build quality for the money. Solidly put together. Sounds good too. I still have it. Its my main practice guitar.
So much this! I still play my modified cheap Davison, and it taught me how to do stuff like change pickups, carve out a new cavity, change out nut and play with wiring. Cheap guitars FTW!
I have been watching this for ever since I wanted to start the guitar. I have not seen this video in like 1 year this gives me so much nostalgia, me sitting on the desktop faking the awesome solos Rob does... ahh, Being a begginer was awesome.
anyone planning on buying this guitar YOU MUST SET IT UP FIRST. go to your local guitar shop and pay them the 80 bucks for a good setup. when you get it back, itll be so much easier to play.
The affinity strat package is hands down the best value! The affinity guitar alone is $200 us . So you'll be getting a free fender amp,case, cable,strap, picks,tuner ,dvd and more. Get the package if your serious about learning and want nice stuff off the bat.youll never regret it ,it's incredible!
I started off with a Chinese knock off fender strat for £30. Was the worst guitar in the world but you gotta learn somewhere and these packages are great I would say for beginners :)
my older brother got me a guitar for Christmas (it was my first electric) and it was about £80 and it actually turned out to be one of my favourite guitars I own
+RJ Henley what type of guitar was it?
I started off with an Encore guitar that I could probably sell for £5. Single humbucker, hard-tail, beaten frets, 50Hz interference, broken tuners, broken volume, frozen solid tune knob. I'm glad I bought something a bit better
Me too
You get what you pay for! Stop bitching
It's amazing how far these videos have come.
im sure most the people here arent begginers or just starting because its just awesome to see the vids
Im so grateful for Chapman! Im ordering the Squier now and beginning my journey in the rock and roll :)
3:50 "its loud enough to really annoy your parents"
SOLD
After reading a few comments, I have to weigh in here.
I am not a beginner, and I have owned a few guitars. My main guitar is one that some of the snobs here would certainly sneer at. It is just an '07 Squier Standard Stratocaster, but it is heavily modded. It was a good guitar to start with, but I eventually put a full size steel block and GFS Texas pickups in it, a 250k pot in both the volume and 1st tone position, and a TBX pot in the 2nd tone position (with a jumper).
In the beginning of this year I purchased a Squier Affinity Tele Pack (BSB). I wanted a string-through, 22 fret Tele, and the Affinity Tele that comes by itself does not have those features (different guitars, from different factories). So, even though I didn't need an amp, or any of the other accessories, starter pack it was. The finish has a few minor flaws (you have to search to find them), and the pots were junk. But, the neck (where it really counts) is a work of art. All frets are level, with smooth edges. The action on this guitar was very good, right out of the box. The tone is... to die for. I had planned to change the pickups as soon as I got it, but these ceramic pickups are just fine. There is nothing about this guitar that should put off a student. It plays very well.
About $10 to upgrade the pots, a little tweaking of the saddles, and this is one fine guitar. Sometimes you have to take what you got (or paid for), and make it work for you.
I know from experience that those guitars sound great, but those little Fender Frontman amps are just terrible. Anyone considering this kit should totally go for it, but toss the amp and spend a bit of dosh on something even like a little Marshall MG. At least those sound somewhat decent compared to the Frontman.
Yeah I play a 130$ Epi lpj through a fender Princeton chorus and it sounds great
BionicSammich What about the Fender Champion 20 in the new packs?
+Frank Sending I suggest you go get a blackstar id core 10 for $100.00 and buy the guitar separate.
in my opinion, the fender mustang amps are the best value for money that you can find. they sound great, they're affordable, they come with loads of presets and built in effects and they're loud enough to gig with in pubs and school concerts. and the mustang iii - mustang v are loud enough to gig with in larger venues as well. when I first heard the mustang iii I thought it was a tube amp!
is suggest getting an irig. It's the best sim and it sounds almost exactly like the amp it's ending
I got the fender acoustic in black a few months ago and I absolutely love it! Even though it's kinda cheap, it still sounds great for the buck and I'm very pleased by it! One of the best purchases I've ever made!
When my son was 9 I bought him a used Charvel (for the playability) and a Soldano 50w head with 2 12s Celestian cab (purple). Cost me $1500.00 US. Ten years later he was signed to a major US label with his own band. Get beginners good gear. Only the pros can make crap sound good, and if it doesn't sound good, then the difficulties and struggles of learning have no reward. Plus, if they change their mind you can sell the gear and get your money back - or make a profit.
I'm a big supporter of Andertons and I even like their wacked videos with Chappers. But I don't agree with these amateur hour starter packs. Assume the new student is serious and show him or her your confidence. That confidence will help them over the hump.
I started on an affinity pack. The amp was shit (Squier SP10), worse than the one in the video and everything that came with it was junky.. But the guitar itself was a real great guitar, and 16 years later with many modifications (pickups/tuners/nut) it's still a really really great guitar.
You don't need to start with top end gear, a Squier affinity strat is more than good enough, budget guitars these days are really well made and light years ahead of the equivalent 30+ years ago. Just buy a decent amp, a decent lead instead of the turd in these packs and you're good.
When I was around 19-20 around a decade ago I was also in a signed band touring and I started playing a month before I turned 15, am a professional musician to this day.
I remember when I got my guitar pack. It was a $200 rig that I got back in 2006 and it wasn't half as good as these are. It still had the type of tuner that you had to plug in. I'm glad to see the rate at which this entry-level gear is progressing because I know from experience that if you have mediocre gear you won't want to play.
that intro on the slowest speed is meme gold
That final solo!!! is sooooooooo GOOD!!!!
Anybody else noticed that in all these videos looking at cheap guitars, that a good player can make anything sound good, doesn't matter if its a £50 of 5000£ instrument.
Watching these even though I'm years into my playing to see how these guitars have changed over the years!
Can we get an Epiphone video the same way
My first amp was a Frontman 15G. Sounded passable clean, not great, but passable. The drive channel was unforgivable though. I am genuinely amazed and appalled that they haven't improved that after all these years.
The first guitar is all about the looks. You don't know what suits you yet, so just take whateever catches your eye. Always start with electric guitar and play it with headphones, so you don't piss off people around.
Thats right. then after. its about comfort. then sound . then looks.
Been practicing with my Strat for less than a week and I'm enjoying it more each time I work with it. Looking forward to playing the ZZTop esque riffs Rob's playing. Thanks for spotlighting my choice, it s reassuring when pros like something you ve selected as an amateur
Don't complain I'm stuck with a 99$ squire mini with a karaoke amp
I feel your pain my friend
I know this is an older video but just discovered it a couple of weeks ago.
Was searching for my first guitar amp combo, so very confusing if you are a newbie, and this really helped make up my mind. Going with the Squire Strat with the G-DEC amp.
Mahalo Chappers and Captain Lee for the information!
Sorry I couldn't get it from Andertons, but I am on an island in the middle of the Pacific and under US electrical connections.
i know a fun game we can play with the squier affinity.
once you bought it played with for a few months and got the money for a spare. do a townsend toss
wtf is a townsend toss.
1234567890nam maybe he meant Pete Townshend?
the Townsend toss means smash it to bits and yes it is Pete Townsend , but don't do that as the Squier Affinity Telecaster through the right amp can sound very cool
or is it just my stereo type view on squier in the low range isnt worth upgrading. but you dont have to waste money on a fender mex strat or tele. if no one knows then who can tell the difference
skylineXpert Nine times out of ten cheap guitars when set up correctly can sound brilliant through a good amp. Number one rule is to upgrade the amp first for sure.
These are great, had a pack very similar to this as I wanted to play but didn't want to spend a lot of money as I I might have given up on learning. Been playing over 2 years now and bought and new amp after the first year and now I'm buying a new SG!
That amp sounds like a dustbin full of spanners falling down a fire escape.
I bought a Squier pack to get me started about 4 years ago. Came with a metallic red Squier Strat, Fender Frontman 15G Amp and all the accessories for $300 AUD. Still have that guitar to this day.
Lmao I've had the last kit for 5 years and still haven't gotten a new guitar. I'm looking at the Ibanez RG iron label series, fender telecaster, and the Chapman ML-7 Ash and ML-1 Norseman.That Strat you get with the starter pack is just so versatile that I only need a new guitar for extended range or very specific purposes (like the Tele has a brighter tone for example)
got the tele pack and it's great. sounds great, feels great for a starter guitar.
The only decent sounding solid state amp to come out of fender is that mustang series. These beginner packs are the reason people quit playing after 6 months.
Upgrade your stuff, you'll be amazed you ever played that stuff. The mustang is a sweet amp or if you dont mind used stuff find a peavey bandit 112 redstripe on ebay or craigslist. you'll be blown away buy the cheap prices and great sounds.
*****
A piece of advice. Get the new amp before you mod anything on the guitar. You will get more bang for your buck with a new amp compared to pickups. Im on a budget too thats why I buy old classic stuff used. Avoid guitar fetish and rondo like its the plague. Its low quality garbage. Changing the speaker on your current amp would have more of an effect on your sound than new pickups would trust me. Pups tend to be pups and unless your doing a drastic change like replacing a single coil with a humbucker, dont even bother. People get all pup crazy because its the easiest thing to mod on a guitar lol. The guitar you have isn't really that bad of a guitar and with some work can play as good as anything else does. I found a Fender Mustang V (The Amp Head) at guitar center (used) for 150 bucks. Buy the 4 button foot switch (50 bucks) and a volume/wah pedal, a decent cab your set for life amp wise. All for under 400 bucks. On the guitar itself, I'd just swap out the tuners, nut and bridge which can be done all for under 100. So for 500 bucks, you can have EVERYTHING you'll ever need with minimal mods and work. If you need new pickups, like those hot rail-esque pups you described, just buy Wilkinson or Mighty Mite versions of them for cheap. Good quality low price. Hope this helps.
Thomas R. Bowen I can agree. I got a 150$ epiphone for my first guitar with a decent 15 watt crate amp. If i were to have gotten a squier i probably would not be as far as i am with guitar.
Thomas R. Bowen haha! I bet jonny Greenwood disagrees...
Thomas R. Bowen Vox Valvetronix are awesome amps aswell. They're not very expensive, but they come equipped with a 12AX7 pre-amp tube and a load of effects. Been using a Vox VT30 for 6 years, and the clean sounds sound simply amazing. Not all-tube amp amazing, but for the price it's great.
It's the same with me. The ESP LTD V-50 is my main axe because it was the first guitar I ever bought myself, I've had others but I keep coming back to that one.
Captain lee looks older here than he does now
Parents: spend as much as you can afford for your kid to have a decent guitar to learn on. In general, these "starter packs" are total junk - and they will more than likely lead to your kid losing interest and quitting - because the action is too high or it can't be tuned properly, or won't stay in tune, etc. You get what you pay for.
IMHO, I'd go into your local "Guitar Center" and see if you can find a really nice used guitar that's in "like new" condition - and save probably half off vs. what it would cost new - and be sure to have it professionally set up - so they can address any issues and make sure the action is right, etc.
Unfortunately, I had to learn this lesson the hard way and I bought 2 el cheapo guitars that both had problems. As a newbie, I didn't know any better, and so I just chalked it up to me NOT being musically inclined and basically incapable of learning how to play because it "was too hard" - but, the whole time it wasn't me; it was my crappy junk guitars.
It took me a 3rd attempt (years later) to finally buy a "nice" guitar (at Guitar Center) - and I immediately noticed - it made a HUGE difference. I bought it "used" - but in "like new" condition for $350. My particular Takamine acoustic/electric guitar (I called Takamine to find out) - it had an MSRP of $1,000, but they RETAILED in stores for $700 to $750. If you can find something in that price range for $350 - GO FOR IT. I also paid a little extra and had it "set up" by a pro & since that day I haven't been able to PUT IT DOWN. I've been playing almost 2 years on it, and for the amount of time I've put in, I'm amazed at how much progress I've made. A "nice" guitar will make you WANT to play. That's my advice, and I'm sticking to it!
You work for Guitar Center? Lol
yes, this is true. However I started with a EXTREMELY cheap gixing acoustic, $30 and I never gave up. I think its more about wanting to learn more about on the instrument, and actually working up to a better guitar.
No I don't work for GC, but my local store has at least a hundred guitars on display - maybe even closer to 200 - it's crazy - like walking into guitar paradise. Plenty to hold in your hands & choose from.
Not sure what a "gixing" guitar is?
If you can afford to start out learning on something nice that is setup well with good intonation and good action that is easy to tune and generally STAYS in tune vs. something inexpensive that is hard to play, it could mean the difference between sticking with it or giving it up - a lesson I learned the hard way.
However, you are certainly correct in that determination plays a role as well. You've got to WANT TO learn, regardless of what quality level of instrument you start out with. If you're determined though, you can avoid the catch 22 (beginner + cheap = setting up for failure) and skip the junk and go straight to something nice that will be EASIER to play and will INSPIRE you to learn.
***** That's my whole point. How can you develop "skill" without decent "material" to learn on?
I've had 2 "starter" guitars, and both were all but useless - because of their intonation problems, high action, inability to tune properly or stay in tune, etc. A luthier would have charged me more than it's worth to try to make it playable, & also told me there was no guarantee. So, if you can find a good starter guitar that doesn't have or develop problems, then by all means - go for it.
However, you get what you pay for. If you pay $100 for a guitar, don't expect much. The moment I bought a fairly "nice" guitar, my "skill" level improved exponentially. Obviously, no parent is going to spend several hundred on a guitar for a child, but therein lies the catch 22. Junk can = inability to learn on, which can = quickly giving up. I'm not saying a parent needs to spend a lot, but they do need to make sure it is playable and free of the problems mentioned above to at least give the child a fighting chance. From my own personal experience, a "cheap guitar" did not at all "encourage" me in any way. It only led to frustration & quickly losing interest. However, once I had a nice guitar - I didn't want to put it down.
I agree as far as better stuff encourages better playing. It did with me.
1:57 what does that riff come from? or was it an on the spot thing?
If I hadn't seen this video 1 and 1/2 years ago I never would have picked up a guitar... Thanks Chappers and the captain, guitar has made my life so much better 😁
Do a video on what second guitar to get once you get a bit better! I have no idea what to get, Les Paul, SG, another Strat, Flying V, HELP!
Go to your local music store and try out a few get a taste on what style you like and it also depends on your music style so don't be afraid to plug it in and take it for a test run. Good luck and have fun.
If you already have a Strat I'd suggest getting a Telecaster or something with humbuckers like an SG.
If I were you, I would buy one of your favorite musician's
That would be a strat but I already have one.
What price budget?
You will never go wrong with any of these. The affinity series squier is pure quality. Toneking and Phil mcnight made videos interviewing a fender custom shop master builder and he couldn't believe how good the affinity strat is . I personally have one the second pack with the sunburst strat. Iv had it for five years now. Still Cherry and everything works great. And lee is correct, if you crank the fender frontman ten you'll rock the house. Could perform in small bars. If you're looking for a guitar look no further. Don't pass this up. This is unbelievable value!
Actually buying a starter pack will cost you MORE in the long run because you will have to upgarde quite soon. Better quality equipment is more of a pleasure to play. Easier to play (guitar) and easier to get really satisfying sounds (amp) making you want to play more and therefore get better quicker. Experience speaks. My parents bought me a Kay electric new for £39 (OK 30 years ago) and a Satellite amp for about £20. Soon I bought a Gibson Les Paul and a Marshall JCM 800 50W combo, but that £60 wasted on the cheap stuff would have bought me a Cry Baby back then...
the strat with the black scratch with white outlines on the scratch looks badass
I would argue that it is simply how well a player bonds with a guitar. Give a fantastic guitar player a guitar they do not like, do not want to play and fails to inspire them then it will come across. They may still sound great, but never 100%. Give a player a guitar they love the feel of and love to play then it will help them play their best.
With this in mind, the price and brand of said instrument is not a factor in what a player decides they love or hate to play :)
Why do telecasters sound so good while looking so terrible >,
I got my Squier American Strat and a Marshall MG-10CD for $50 and it plays perfectly... stays in tune.. has amazing tone.. it has a Red Tortoise pickguard and it came with a case and a pick... I have no complaints. Plug in headphones and the sound quality increases to amazing.
You can hear how cheap these guitars sound and you can also see the looks on their faces that Rob and Lee feel the same way hahah
The Frontman 10G is a cheapass amplifier. You can make a starter pack Squier Strat sound fantastic if you plug it into a decent amp.
"It's loud enough to really annoy your parents on full volume" Rob Chappers, you know what's actually important.
Just saying the amp in the last pack is AWFUL! But the guitar is sooo great!
That 3rd guitar was the first guitar I ever had. I loved it until I learned that it wasn't that great a guitar. I still have it to this day.
theres squiers for 600 bucks almost.. Why not just buy a 400-600 dollar fender strat?
the fenders for 400-600 are squires
I found an american special for 500 on musicians friend.. It wasn't squier either.
Adam some of them are lower priced version of specific teles and strats. for example jim roots signature tele is around $1100 for the fender model, but his squier model is around $400
you can get some sweet old squiers, one of the best strats I've ever played was a squier, but I should mention it was like an 89 mij haha
*****
I have a Mexican fretless Jazz bass and it's easily as nice as the American made Jazz bass I owned 30 years ago. Once setup properly it stays in tune, plays really smoothly and is worth every penny of the $300 I payed for it used.
Squires are awesome! People just buy into the stereotype that they are cheap junky instruments. I have 2 squier strats and a signature bass that they sell, and an actual fender. I also have 2 epiphones 1of which is a signature model, a base model laguna, takamine explorer, and the orange guitar that came with the starter pack (Orange starter pack) my friend got as a novelty gift my favorite out of them all is my sunburst affinity, it's always been so comfortable to play, sounds just fine, and looks great. So don't let anyone talk you out of a squier they're actually wonderful pieces of equipment, you just gotta find one you like
That's reassuring. Buying a used Squire in a few days, literally all I can afford right now. Other option would be to save up and delay a purchase by months.
5:40 what a crappy tone.
As someone who used to have a Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar, I totally agree. My only regret is that I didn't get the humbucker version
Don't buy a cheap strat, buy cheap tele instead. Cheap stats never stay in tune.
Thumbs up for tree wood!!
The best sounding of all of the woods.
Come on guys,,they are learning guitars..Did any of you learn how to drive on a Ferrari or a Lamborghini?Learn how to play properly,then you upgrade and show people what u can do..
I prefer to get my stuff secondhand. My amp is a big ole Crate bass amp running 20 watts through a 10" woofer. My guitar is a 2005 Affinity Strat that I got used in really good shape for $99. Since buying it I put on heavy gauge flatwounds and a humbucker with a couple of switches. Works like a dream.
The amp sounds awful... Glad I've moved farfarfar away from these starter packs
Amp-wise, I bought practice amp from Orange, and that was amazing! So much power, and so much rich sound for that tiny amp
Agreed, you'd be better off leaving it clean and getting a $50 distortion pedal than using the overdrive on that amp.
I couldn't reccomend a Fender Frontman more to anyone who's starting and planning on gigging, it's built in but it comes with a pedal (and button) it's loud for it's size, and I even use it for metal! O_O
Definitely, now that I've had my Fender HRDIII for awhile i can't believe i used to use my Frontman and thought it sounded good.
I started out with an Ibanez GIO I got for $60 and a $40 Peavey Rage. It had 12 gauge strings, it's a surprise I ever learned how to play it, given that I use 8s now
Nobody, NOBODY ever deserves that amp, all of the disgusting Frontman line should be burned, whichever factory has been making these things should be burned also. Those things are repulsive, not even for a beginner. Many beginners may quit after using that shitty amp.
Macsk8ing Many people may not even want to try if entry cost is too expensive for them.
lol haters are such cunts :)
PARENTS: don't ever buy these guitar packs for your kids! They are junk and are uncomfortable to play. If you are worried wether or not they will even want to continue playing, I promise that if you get them one of these, they won't. It will be uncomfortable for them to play and therefore be non enjoyable. If the guitar is comfortable they will enjoy playing it and get hooked. Spend the extra cash and get a decent guitar that your child finds comfortable. It's more than worth the extra money.
Zé Nunes My first guitar was a Squier Bullet Strat, cheapest of the cheap, and its bloody awesome! All the hardware is unbelievably good quality and I think any issues with it feeling uncomfortable will be to do with how it is set up, I love how mine plays, awesome starter guitar!
thanks for the clarification captain condescending. I said they are uncomfortable to play, not to hold. obviously I was referring to the playability of the instrument. for those of you who have affinity fenders, did you but them on there own or in one of the starter packs? im sure there are exceptions but all the ones ive played had uneven frets and the frets were very poorly dressed with sharp edges. and being that they are in a pack you are unable to really try them before purchasing. what im trying to say is don't just buy a guitar for your kid because its cheap. make sure it is comfortable to play. didn't mean to make you all butt-hurt.
MrBingping Thanks for the reply! I was actually talking about how the guitar plays, not to hold. By set up I mean things like the action, intonation, bridge tension, truss rod etc. which all make the guitar more or less comfortable to play and are all repetitively easy to fix, and because all the parts on these guitars are fender sizes (albeit lower quality) it is very easy to swap them with higher quality parts if you want to (which I have on mine). Most parents may not play guitar so will not know what to look for, and I think they are much better going with one of the biggest names in guitars than an unknown brand of the same price because you are much more likely to get something good from Squire.
James Cook my first electric was a affinity...they are like Chinese gibsons I guess (you know the knock offs) either its playable and ok or its a right pos....mines was good enough to play for a couple years. its a dice roll....plus you better believe chap and the cap spent some time setting this thing up. out the box they have issues.
James Cook you are better off getting a used mim strat, playing it unplugged until u can find a cheap amp....hell I find these little 10 watt fender amps on craigslist all day for 20$...
This makes me feel super lucky about the first guitar I played. It was a Chappers ML-1 which I borrowed from a friend.
And on the right, sporting her lovely headband and conditioner smooth locks of hair, we have sexually ambiguous caitlyn jenner! Give her a big hand, it took a lot of courage to come out with that headband today to sit in front of you and play guitar.
Gold.
FANTASTIC VIDEO! I'm just about to buy a guitar and I've been looking at the Fender SQ Affinity, but I've been unsure about if I should go for it. This video..PERFECT. Now I know I can safely buy one as my first guitar. Brilliant.
my wife got that acoustic and gave it to me. it's sitting in open D next to my Ibanez s series. I enjoy playing the acoustic. it's nice.
Majesty.....Its one of his. You can look it up. There is a finger picking lesson of him teaching it...Enjoy
well damn, he can truly make anything sound good
my first guitar, was a danelectro U2 and a boom box amplifier, now months later, ibanez rg 470, acoustic g10 lead amp, prime 50 watt bass and guitar amplifier, Peavy milestone 5 bass, Montana acoustic guitar, and a 1×18 Peavy 1545 TI.
I started out with the second guitar, the squier affinity and I still use it to this day
It's a real beauty indeed❤️
After watching this video a couple of times I just went to the music store and bought my electric guitar and amp. 11:04 Rob is just incredibly good he became my inspiration.
I drove past your store many times in Guildford a few years back working away from home ( Wales ) now this year starting to play I was I popped in
OMG, that HSS/SSH affinity looks so nice.
Been playing the Squire starter guitar for 16 years or so, still a noob but I remember getting the pack open on christmas day. Still got the amp too. But as of tomorrow I'll be rocking the Ibanez GRGR210EX Black Night. Not a massive upgrade but it's what I wanted since I'm on a very tight budget.
Just goes to show that the person playing is where all this holy grail tone we're looking for comes from. Kind of a bummer.
That Red Affinty HSS looks & sounds great. In fact it looks a lot like the Candy Red Burst Fender Stratocaster HSS FSR that Guitar Center currently is selling. That package with the G DEC Jr. Amp is an amazing value.
My brother got the second starter pack about ten years ago, when he bought a les paul custom I got his old strat. Love the thing to death
I bought myself my first guitar a year ago for 290€ and it is beautiful, and also a great budget guitar and just lightly used, happened to be an Epiphone Les Paul standar plustop pro cherry sunburst
im glad i started on a gibson jimmy page signature les paul. it was handed down to me and i took off on it when i was 11 years old and still have it to this day :)
Yeh that's a good point actually. If anything, i would say a good amp is more important than a good guitar (within reason of course).
Even though this video is insanely old. It's still a great reference for beginners