I drove 335 miles and only used half a tank in a 2023 430i. I’m extremely impressed! Eco Pro is the way to go. My buddy drove his Tesla model 3 the same trip and had to stop to recharge along the way… 😂
I got a 535d two months ago. I commute 130 miles per day, so knocking off 10 miles per gallon each trip adds up. Also, when traffic slows down and there’s no benefit to 415 ft lbs of torque, it makes sense for me. I’ve even gotten used to the auto stop and hold features. Thanks for the video.
He failed to mention one big point, when in eco-pro you’re a transmission literally disconnects from the driveline and allows you to coast at IDLE, which saves wear and tear, gas and a lot of other things
Good Video and perspective - I use ECO Mode quite a lot as I am not an aggressive driver (80% of the time). Current add to tank is 53 miles and I have a quarter of a tank left. Depends on how you driver overall... I think it is a great feature especially the coast mode and battery charging capability...JD
@@WhatsyourForte I had a 428i and now have a 435i, and while ECO mode completely ruins the driving experience in both cars, in the 435i it doesn't add much to your MPG - on the 428i, however, it seemed to give you pretty good results. In any case, I don't drive enough miles for me to willingly destroy the fun of driving to save some stupid penguins. Also, in similar driving, my 428i got around 32mpg without ECO -- while so far the 435i is getting around 18mpg without ECO, so it's a big difference.
Not sure if I remembered this correctly but I managed something between 9 to 10 litres per 100km (32 to 28.2 mpg) on my 640i Gran Coupe in Eco Pro. Drove for two hours on a mixture of urban roads and highways in Hong Kong (mostly highway), with mild traffic and at speeds from 25 to 75 miles an hour. Felt that the car was way happier with coasting. It was so quiet I genuinely believe that the engine had turned off. Not bad for a 2-ton car...
Yes I have heard that others have gotten mixed numbers. My test was my normal back and forth to work drive for a week. Results may vary. Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for explaining about eco pro, I have it in my new 440 green vert :) but now you explained it better so thanks for the pros and cons explanation!
thanks for the video, I drive a BMW X1 and I`m driving mainly locally for the last 2 1/2 years and getting upper 20`s in the mpg range (petrol). The engine is a 2 litre X drive and expressing my disappointment to BMW and other users, i have until now not heard anyone including most BMW drivers who agrees with my conclusions. thankyou for confirming my views!
Great video I'm driving a 750LI M sport. The only time I use ECO is if I'm on a straight drive on the highway for long distances. Other than that I don't use it because I like to feel that twin turbo in sport mode. That's the most exciting way to drive it and it seems to me that that's the way SHE likes to be driven...lol
I totally agree. I do a lot of highway driving and it doesn’t seem to save me any gas if I’m going above 60 miles an hour. If I am on my last few drops until the gas station I will put it on to get me there, but that is about all.
@@WhatsyourForte not car miles blue the miles in the blue color for example it says +23,8km in blue , when I drive fast over 100 the +23,8 starts going down ( does that mean I’m using the saved up fuel ) and when I refuel the car it starts from +0,0 km again
Nice video, I think you saved quite a bit more than just what Eco Pro displayed. You said you usually get between 17-20 and you averaged 23 on that tank? Thats 40 miles added if you usually get 20 mpg. I wanted to see how high I could get my fuel economy so I used Eco Pro on my 17' X3 xdrive35i traveling to Oklahoma from San Antonio last weekend. I filled up (17.7 gallon tank size) before I left and made it to my destination 420 miles with 106 miles of range left. I did coast downhill and stayed under or at the speed limit (60-75 mph) but would go over if coasting made me. My indicated MPG on the car computer was 30.3 mpg for the trip, 29.6 mpg for the tank. I use to Fuelly to track fuel economy and it showed 28.8 mpg when I filled up again. My previous best was 26.7. The efficiency dynamics display showed I added 11.7 miles. Things I noticed that Eco Pro does: -Above 30 mph when you take your foot off the accelerator completely it decouples the engine and transmission and you coast at idle. -Makes the throttle response way more muted, which makes it easier to modulate the throttle or hold it or increase in very fine increments. I found that I could easily beat cruise control when there is any type of elevation. You can see it by looking at the performance displays to see what HP/TQ you are using vs cruise control. -Reduces the fan speed of the AC system -I assume it will also shift you into a higher gear faster than comfort but haven't really paid much attention to it. -Alerts you when you go over a certain speed that you set in the Eco Pro configuration menu. Mine is set at 75 mph
i think its probably good for long highway cruises? I just spent my first day driving my 435i x drive and it felt really weird trying to accelerate even on the highway but cruise control was no problem
@@jayarns6204 yeah i was pleasantly surprised as to how much i actually came to appreciate the car, i knew i was going to like it but i didnt know id like it this much.... except for a mini rattle in my cabin haha
I drove 153 miles in my 535i in eco pro, mix of both highway and city with my ac on auto and the stop start off and ended up getting an extra 26.8 miles out of my tank. I normally drive in sport+ as well
I Just bought a bmw with eco pro system, but i cant put it on default every time i start the car, its there any thing i can do to make it the default seting insted of pushing the buton?
Hello ppl I had a trip that is 20-30 min depending on traffic and I try to use eco pro and the way to practice it add to my Tank from 404km left to 451 km left. When I drove home I took a highway and went down to 430 km. Can I ask what i did to cost that ?
What's your Forte ? By the way, when I first read about it in the owner’s manual, I laughed. I thought, “wait, is BMW trying to act like coasting is a technology?” Im curious to know your opinion of “coasting”. Have you found it actually useful? If so, how have you used it?
I made up to 19mpg in my f30 once or twice driving the interstate back and forth to work. Yet, i still think that it is not worth it for me because of my driving style. I dont know how i do it but according to the trip meter i only loose about 10 miles from actual miles driven riding on comfort. Overall, its about the same results as what the video had. Maybe eco is better used for long distance trips. Going back to comfort was a relief getting that instant throttle gratification back...lol.
If I realy realy try I get around 50 liters on a full tank with my 116d. Didn't know Eco Pro affected the airconditioning though, so that's the reason why my car heats up so slow!
If I keep it at or under 75mph then it saves 18-20 miles on my 80 mile round trip to work. It saves me $6 in gas a day at minimum and it prevents me from getting pulled over on the way to and from work. The rest of the day is sport at 14 mpg 😅
What's up bro, how much did you pay for the 435i? which year and trim it is? I'm thinking about getting into bmw (Volvo S60 owner), but not sure if the M235i or the 435i.
What’s up man. I have a 2016 BMW 435i ZHP edition. I paid a little over $30k and it was CPO with 36k miles. I did a full review of the car and specs on this video here: th-cam.com/video/yL4jfMzMKvY/w-d-xo.html
As far as 235 vs 435, the 2 series will handle better and be faster, but you will have more room in the 4 series. It really depends on what your needs are. If you are looking for a 2nd car to drive hard then go for the 2 series. If you need more room, and and have to live with it daily, I say go with the 4 series.
thx for the input. once you get it tuned and if you want burbles, the burbles will burn up a TON of gasoline haha. almost feels like putting in eco pro wont even save anything
If I drive like a normal person in Eco Pro I can manage 16KM/L (around 38MPG), even when I drive on the Autobahn I drive at 105KM/H-120KM/H (65-75MPH), I sometimes have fun on the Autobahn but my fuel economy is shit when I am driving at 240KM/H. Greetings from Germany!
Yeah man it’s excruciating to drive economically in eco pro mode… but i would be ok with it if I were gaining a lot over comfort mode. My last tank was 19mpg with sport mode. I’m going on a trip tomorrow and I’ll try eco pro mode to see how much better I get
It's known as option you have the option to drive in sport the option to drive in comfort the option to drive in eco mode what you are yapping about its option
Let's say I save 9mpg my car has 15 gallons.. means I got free 135 miles. My car goes about 30 mpg on eco. I just saved 4.5 gallons worth of gas.... 4.5 x $6.00 for gas is $27. ...... now it depends on you whether it's important or not
I say, not worth it at all for 1 reason: Excessive wear and tear on the starter because of the stop/start function. Good analysis on the mog though... I've used it when I'm on my way to the drag strip and I have a tank full of 😁race gas. Still don't think it's really worth it.
I also agree with the start/stop wear. I hate that functionality on cars but car makers continue to add it to every car. I had a rental once that would not let you shut it off. It drove me mad. At the end of day, I could achieve the ECO pro numbers in comfort mode.
@@WhatsyourForte Also, I'm like you I drive my car quick fast and in a hurry. I drive my car in sport + with trans in sport 99% of the time. That 1% is driving to the track with a tank full of race gas... because it's a 2 hour drive.
Eco pro is useless in your situation: - warm weather: AC requires 10kW I think, its probably as much as the necessary power to cruise at 30mph :D - sports car with large tires and 3 liter engine: lot of friction Go try this in milder climate with a 2 liter engine, "normal" tires and the difference is more important
What's your Forte ? How did you get your MPG savings to stay on there for a whole tank of gas? Mine seems to reset after turning car on and off several times and changing driving modes back and forth.
I drove 335 miles and only used half a tank in a 2023 430i. I’m extremely impressed! Eco Pro is the way to go. My buddy drove his Tesla model 3 the same trip and had to stop to recharge along the way… 😂
I just bought a 435i Gran coupe and I’m so glad I found your vid bro!
Congrats on the purchase. Welcome to the 435 club.
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I got a 535d two months ago. I commute 130 miles per day, so knocking off 10 miles per gallon each trip adds up. Also, when traffic slows down and there’s no benefit to 415 ft lbs of torque, it makes sense for me. I’ve even gotten used to the auto stop and hold features. Thanks for the video.
In that situation yes
He failed to mention one big point, when in eco-pro you’re a transmission literally disconnects from the driveline and allows you to coast at IDLE, which saves wear and tear, gas and a lot of other things
I did not kn ow about this feature. Is this on every BMW with Eco Pro?
@@WhatsyourForte I think it is standard equipment across the entire BMW fleet since 2010
Love the feeling when i let off the pedal and the car continues sailing along like a little idling cloud
this coasting mode is GREAT
You can see your RPMs drops to idle level
17 mpg. wow bro, thats insane. My whole body is shaking when my BMW goes below 36 mpg. Good video. Thanks.
MrGE2014SE haha you are welcome
I think it's a good feature to have when your tired from work or something and want a quieter and relaxed ride home.
I can see that or stop and go traffic. As long as you turn off the start stop functionally. That is the worst part of ECO Pro.
i know it is pretty randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to watch newly released tv shows online ?
@Flynn Wells Lately I have been using flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Flynn Wells I use FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
Good Video and perspective - I use ECO Mode quite a lot as I am not an aggressive driver (80% of the time). Current add to tank is 53 miles and I have a quarter of a tank left. Depends on how you driver overall... I think it is a great feature especially the coast mode and battery charging capability...JD
Yeah it really does depends on how you drive
@@WhatsyourForte I had a 428i and now have a 435i, and while ECO mode completely ruins the driving experience in both cars, in the 435i it doesn't add much to your MPG - on the 428i, however, it seemed to give you pretty good results. In any case, I don't drive enough miles for me to willingly destroy the fun of driving to save some stupid penguins.
Also, in similar driving, my 428i got around 32mpg without ECO -- while so far the 435i is getting around 18mpg without ECO, so it's a big difference.
How do u trun it off
This was a great study. Thanks so much!
Great video man!
Thanks man!!!!!
Not sure if I remembered this correctly but I managed something between 9 to 10 litres per 100km (32 to 28.2 mpg) on my 640i Gran Coupe in Eco Pro. Drove for two hours on a mixture of urban roads and highways in Hong Kong (mostly highway), with mild traffic and at speeds from 25 to 75 miles an hour. Felt that the car was way happier with coasting. It was so quiet I genuinely believe that the engine had turned off. Not bad for a 2-ton car...
Yes I have heard that others have gotten mixed numbers. My test was my normal back and forth to work drive for a week. Results may vary. Thanks for your comment.
I did this in a 630i and got 21 km out of it from 100 and a 5.7/100 liters
Again. A very cool and unique video idea. Keep it up brotha!
Thanks!!!
Thanks for explaining about eco pro, I have it in my new 440 green vert :) but now you explained it better so thanks for the pros and cons explanation!
Nice spec. You are welcome
thanks for the video, I drive a BMW X1 and I`m driving mainly locally for the last 2 1/2 years and getting upper 20`s in the mpg range (petrol). The engine is a 2 litre X drive and expressing my disappointment to BMW and other users, i have until now not heard anyone including most BMW drivers who agrees with my conclusions. thankyou for confirming my views!
You are welcome. It was a rough week driving in Eco Pro but now I know!
I'm getting mad returns with EcoPro especially between work and home, the sweet spot is between 80-100km/h that's when it's the most efficient.
I can agree with that. Overall I saw improvement just not as much as I thought it would be.
Tried it on a 242 mile motorway drive. Managed 48.3mpg at a max of 70mph.
Same drive in comfort just being careful, 49.9mpg.
F30 335d.
Yeah I think only in city driving you will see any benefits
Great video I'm driving a 750LI M sport. The only time I use ECO is if I'm on a straight drive on the highway for long distances. Other than that I don't use it because I like to feel that twin turbo in sport mode. That's the most exciting way to drive it and it seems to me that that's the way SHE likes to be driven...lol
Yeah I agree. The eco mode zaps the fun out of the car.
I totally agree. I do a lot of highway driving and it doesn’t seem to save me any gas if I’m going above 60 miles an hour. If I am on my last few drops until the gas station I will put it on to get me there, but that is about all.
Yes sir. It is an emergency option only.
When I refuel my car the miles start from 0 again in eco pro ? Any explanation ?
Mine did not do that… I am not sure
@@WhatsyourForte not car miles blue the miles in the blue color for example it says +23,8km in blue , when I drive fast over 100 the +23,8 starts going down ( does that mean I’m using the saved up fuel ) and when I refuel the car it starts from +0,0 km again
Nice video, I think you saved quite a bit more than just what Eco Pro displayed. You said you usually get between 17-20 and you averaged 23 on that tank? Thats 40 miles added if you usually get 20 mpg.
I wanted to see how high I could get my fuel economy so I used Eco Pro on my 17' X3 xdrive35i traveling to Oklahoma from San Antonio last weekend. I filled up (17.7 gallon tank size) before I left and made it to my destination 420 miles with 106 miles of range left. I did coast downhill and stayed under or at the speed limit (60-75 mph) but would go over if coasting made me. My indicated MPG on the car computer was 30.3 mpg for the trip, 29.6 mpg for the tank. I use to Fuelly to track fuel economy and it showed 28.8 mpg when I filled up again. My previous best was 26.7. The efficiency dynamics display showed I added 11.7 miles.
Things I noticed that Eco Pro does:
-Above 30 mph when you take your foot off the accelerator completely it decouples the engine and transmission and you coast at idle.
-Makes the throttle response way more muted, which makes it easier to modulate the throttle or hold it or increase in very fine increments. I found that I could easily beat cruise control when there is any type of elevation. You can see it by looking at the performance displays to see what HP/TQ you are using vs cruise control.
-Reduces the fan speed of the AC system
-I assume it will also shift you into a higher gear faster than comfort but haven't really paid much attention to it.
-Alerts you when you go over a certain speed that you set in the Eco Pro configuration menu. Mine is set at 75 mph
Good points
i think its probably good for long highway cruises? I just spent my first day driving my 435i x drive and it felt really weird trying to accelerate even on the highway but cruise control was no problem
Yeah using it everyday all day to do this test was a pain, but using it in certain situations is what I think it was made for
I have a 2015 435xi, they 4.4 0-60 is no joke. Love it.
@@jayarns6204 yeah i was pleasantly surprised as to how much i actually came to appreciate the car, i knew i was going to like it but i didnt know id like it this much.... except for a mini rattle in my cabin haha
Perfect for traffic 👌
Thanks for this. But God your so lucky with fuel prices. To fill my tank I am the equivalent of $90 a tank in the UK.
You are welcome. Goodness that is a lot
Excellent!!! Thank you
You are welcome!
Planing on buying a 435xi 2015 gran coupe, how much should i expect in MPG in city driving only?
City will be 18-22
I drove 153 miles in my 535i in eco pro, mix of both highway and city with my ac on auto and the stop start off and ended up getting an extra 26.8 miles out of my tank. I normally drive in sport+ as well
I Just bought a bmw with eco pro system, but i cant put it on default every time i start the car, its there any thing i can do to make it the default seting insted of pushing the buton?
You have to modify the ecu.
I think you can code that option in with BimmerCode.
Hello ppl I had a trip that is 20-30 min depending on traffic and I try to use eco pro and the way to practice it add to my Tank from 404km left to 451 km left. When I drove home I took a highway and went down to 430 km. Can I ask what i did to cost that ?
Great video! Thank you for posting!
You are welcome
What's your Forte ? By the way, when I first read about it in the owner’s manual, I laughed. I thought, “wait, is BMW trying to act like coasting is a technology?” Im curious to know your opinion of “coasting”. Have you found it actually useful? If so, how have you used it?
I made up to 19mpg in my f30 once or twice driving the interstate back and forth to work. Yet, i still think that it is not worth it for me because of my driving style. I dont know how i do it but according to the trip meter i only loose about 10 miles from actual miles driven riding on comfort. Overall, its about the same results as what the video had. Maybe eco is better used for long distance trips. Going back to comfort was a relief getting that instant throttle gratification back...lol.
Yeah I think it is best used for long trips and when the gas light comes on otherwise best to stick with comfort
why do you get premium gas
Because it is recommended
Thanks 🙏
You are welcome
How do u trun the eco off
I think you can code it off with bimmercode
If I realy realy try I get around 50 liters on a full tank with my 116d. Didn't know Eco Pro affected the airconditioning though, so that's the reason why my car heats up so slow!
Wow those are impressive numbers. I also don’t like the AC Dan change either
Nice overview. Thanks.
You are welcome
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
Eco pro or eco con? Lol. Good job man 👍🏼
Hahhaha both 🤷🏽♂️
If I keep it at or under 75mph then it saves 18-20 miles on my 80 mile round trip to work. It saves me $6 in gas a day at minimum and it prevents me from getting pulled over on the way to and from work. The rest of the day is sport at 14 mpg 😅
What's up bro, how much did you pay for the 435i? which year and trim it is? I'm thinking about getting into bmw (Volvo S60 owner), but not sure if the M235i or the 435i.
What’s up man. I have a 2016 BMW 435i ZHP edition. I paid a little over $30k and it was CPO with 36k miles. I did a full review of the car and specs on this video here: th-cam.com/video/yL4jfMzMKvY/w-d-xo.html
As far as 235 vs 435, the 2 series will handle better and be faster, but you will have more room in the 4 series. It really depends on what your needs are. If you are looking for a 2nd car to drive hard then go for the 2 series. If you need more room, and and have to live with it daily, I say go with the 4 series.
thx for the input.
once you get it tuned and if you want burbles, the burbles will burn up a TON of gasoline haha. almost feels like putting in eco pro wont even save anything
Haaa, it makes since. Tune and more power coming real soon. Stay tuned.
@@WhatsyourForte I personally use ECO Mode for casual driving so my car isnt going crazy with the burble gunshots. I have Bootmod3 stage 2 93AGG
If I drive like a normal person in Eco Pro I can manage 16KM/L (around 38MPG), even when I drive on the Autobahn I drive at 105KM/H-120KM/H (65-75MPH), I sometimes have fun on the Autobahn but my fuel economy is shit when I am driving at 240KM/H.
Greetings from Germany!
Wow that is good MPG. Which car/engine do you have?
@@WhatsyourForte BMW 1 series 1.5L petrol
Is your car rear wheel drive or all wheel
RWD
i have a bmw 340 and with rising gas prices, im wondering teh same thing. i gain maybe 2-4 mpg but that's offset with be going back to sport mode lmao
Yeah it is almost not worth it really.lol
Yeah man it’s excruciating to drive economically in eco pro mode… but i would be ok with it if I were gaining a lot over comfort mode. My last tank was 19mpg with sport mode. I’m going on a trip tomorrow and I’ll try eco pro mode to see how much better I get
I hate eco pro in my 430d, if you only gained 9 miles in 300. I’d rather tare up the road in sport.
Thanks. Good information!
You are welcome
What's your Forte ? One other question is how is charging the battery in ECO Mode?
It's known as option you have the option to drive in sport the option to drive in comfort the option to drive in eco mode what you are yapping about its option
Just fyi, I loaded +30 mi. for my tank in eco pro mode.
Let's say I save 9mpg my car has 15 gallons.. means I got free 135 miles. My car goes about 30 mpg on eco. I just saved 4.5 gallons worth of gas.... 4.5 x $6.00 for gas is $27. ...... now it depends on you whether it's important or not
I say, not worth it at all for 1 reason: Excessive wear and tear on the starter because of the stop/start function. Good analysis on the mog though... I've used it when I'm on my way to the drag strip and I have a tank full of 😁race gas. Still don't think it's really worth it.
I also agree with the start/stop wear. I hate that functionality on cars but car makers continue to add it to every car. I had a rental once that would not let you shut it off. It drove me mad. At the end of day, I could achieve the ECO pro numbers in comfort mode.
@@WhatsyourForte Also, I'm like you I drive my car quick fast and in a hurry. I drive my car in sport + with trans in sport 99% of the time. That 1% is driving to the track with a tank full of race gas... because it's a 2 hour drive.
I turn off the start/stop function on my bmw x2 2018 but the eco pro matters. Especially when the gas Is basically 4.99/gallon in 2022 lol
Eco pro is useless in your situation:
- warm weather: AC requires 10kW I think, its probably as much as the necessary power to cruise at 30mph :D
- sports car with large tires and 3 liter engine: lot of friction
Go try this in milder climate with a 2 liter engine, "normal" tires and the difference is more important
Good information.
Good information
Thank you
So it saved you 3.2% on that tank of gas? Doesn’t BMW claim 20% more efficient in eco pro?
Yeah it did not do much. I think they do claim that much but as you saw I did not get anything close to that
What's your Forte ? How did you get your MPG savings to stay on there for a whole tank of gas? Mine seems to reset after turning car on and off several times and changing driving modes back and forth.
You can use BimmerCode to start your car in ECO Pro.
And it stays that way unless you manually reset it.
What's your Forte ? Oh ok, I am unaware of how to use bimmercode?
$38 dollars 😢 damn nearly $100 to gas up now
Hahha yeah this was a while ago
if you dont have 500hp on your car there is problem with your car... these cars in comfort are normaly doing 7-8l/100km ...
Well mine is saving much more dont Know what I did but in 251km done I saved 47.6km
I have a 420d and in eco mode i can average 58-65 mpg no bull shit
Wow that is insane
I never use that ridiculous start/stop engine function. So eco pro is out for me. I can’t drive my M235i like a Prius.
Yeah it was a painful 7 days driving with it on. It has not been used since. 😂
Dude, you have a heavy foot. Even driving with the eco mode. I’d imagine you getting 25 in combined city and highway. Comfort mode is for you.
I can’t help it 😂 just wanna go fast 😂
@@WhatsyourForte I just watched another guys video. He drove a total amount of 310 miles and saved about 36 miles. The car on comfort is fantastic.
Use eco pro whole in traffic that's all
Yep
Stick it in sports mode stop nessing with the eco shit,
If your worried about fuel by a Prius
😂 it was for scientific purposes. I don’t drive in this mode
Q: How much are using it these days? Lol
None 😂
Buy a smart car😂😂
Eco pro drives like a smart car 😂