Neoplatonism in Islamic Thought

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  • It's time to talk about a few ways that Neoplatonic ideas have shown up in the history of Islamic thought.
    This video is part of an amazing collaboration with ESOTERICA, Seekers of Unity, Angela's Symposium, The Modern Hermeticist and John Vervaeke. You can find their videos on Neoplatonism below:
    ESOTERICA: • The Ancient Neo-Platon...
    Seekers of Unity: • From Neoplatonism to K...
    • The Untold Story of Pl...
    Angela's Symposium: • Plotinus & Iamblichus ...
    The Modern Hermeticist: • What Do Platonists Bel...
    John Vervaeke: • Levels of Intelligibil...
    Sources/Recomended Reading:
    Adamson, Peter (ed.) (2005). "The Cambridge Companion to Arabic Philosophy". Cambridge University Press.
    al-Ghazali - "The Niche of Lights". Translated by David Buchman. Islamic Translations Series. University of Chicago Press.
    Daftary, Farhad (2007). "The Isma'ilis: Their history and doctrines". Cambridge University Press.
    Chittick, William (2005). "Ibn Arabi: Heir to the Prophets". OneWorld Publications.
    Chittick, William (1989). "The Sufi Path of Knowledge: Ibn 'Arabi's Metaphysics of Imagination".
    Chittick, William (1998). "The Self-Disclosure of God: Principles of Ibn al-'Arabi's Cosmology". State University of New York Press.
    Chittick, William (2005). "The Sufi Doctrine of Rumi". World Wisdom, inc.
    Dillon, John (1996). "The Middle Platonists". Bristol Classical Press.
    Gerson, Loyd P. (ed.) (2019). "Plotinus: The Enneads". Cambridge University Press. (This is the translation of the Enneads I have been using in this episode).
    Gerson, Loyd P (2008). "Cambridge Companion to Plotinus". Cambridge University Press.
    Ibn Sina - "A Treatise on Love". Translated by Emil L. Fackenheim. Medieval Studies.
    Ibn 'Arabi - "The Ringstones of Wisdom (Fusus al-Hikam)". Translation by Caner K. Dagli. Great Books of the Islamic World.
    Ibn Arabi - "The Universal Tree and the Four Birds (al-ittihad al-kawni). Translated by Angela Jaffray. Oxford: Anqa Publishing.
    Ibn 'Arabi - "The Openings Revealed in Makkah: al-futuhat al-makkiyya". Translated by Eric Winkel. Volumes 1-4. Pir Press.
    Morewedge, Parviz (1992). "Neoplatonism and Islamic Thought". State University of New York Press.
    Ormsby, Eric (Translated by) (2012). "Between Reason and Revelation: Twin wisdoms reconciled". An annotated English translation of Nasir-i Khusraw's Kitab-i Jami al-hikmatayn. The Institute of Isma'ili Studies. I.B. Tauris.
    Proclus "The Elements of Theology: A Revised Text with Translation, Introduction, and Commentary". Translated by E.R. Dodds. Second Edition. Oxford University Press.
    O'Meara, Dominic J. (1999). "Plotinus: An Introduction to the Enneads". Oxford University Press.
    Wallis, R.T. (1998). "Neoplatonism". Second Edition. Bristol Classical Paperbacks. Hackett Publishing Company.
    #neoplatonism #islam #philosophy
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    01:18 Collaboration
    02:16 Neoplatonism: a recap
    04:16 The beginnings of Neoplatonism in Islam
    10:47 Falsafa (Philosophy)
    12:19 Ibn Sina (Avicenna)
    18:58 The Isma'ilis
    22:15 Mysticism & Sufism
    27:54 Ibn 'Arabi & Neoplatonism
    50:36 Islamic Neoplatonism today
    51:22 Summary
    55:52 Concluding words

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  • @LetsTalkReligion
    @LetsTalkReligion  ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This video is part of an amazing collaboration with ESOTERICA, Seekers of Unity, Angela's Symposium, The Modern Hermeticist and John Vervaeke. You can find their videos on Neoplatonism below:
    ESOTERICA: th-cam.com/video/ZV5ubPPzT7U/w-d-xo.html
    Seekers of Unity: th-cam.com/video/UmkZ383LcW8/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/Fi3VDfkTELQ/w-d-xo.html
    Angela's Symposium: th-cam.com/video/lNqnNjsGExM/w-d-xo.html
    The Modern Hermeticist: th-cam.com/video/Wzd98YSG6Hs/w-d-xo.html
    John Vervaeke: th-cam.com/video/Lbk3lA6zCic/w-d-xo.html

    • @mohammadraghib6415
      @mohammadraghib6415 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said
      "O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued."
      (The holy Quran ch22 v73)

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think this collab was a tremendous success. Between all of us we've basically put together a whole course on Neoplatonism in the space of a month. Awesome!

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheModernHermeticist
      I agree totally, thank you.❤️

    • @poyoopenyopa
      @poyoopenyopa ปีที่แล้ว

      Replace the word "religion"
      Because islam is not just a pure religion 100%
      Islam is a political country too

    • @rhetoric5173
      @rhetoric5173 ปีที่แล้ว

      why do you keep calling Islam western? it is not western, it's christianity that's eastern. Shocked at the arrogance/ignorance, especially coming from some tundra inhabitant.

  • @shiraz3440
    @shiraz3440 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    You have a very unique way of explaining different ways of religion, philosophy in a highly non-judgmental tone. In today's world its very very rare.

    • @gnasher688
      @gnasher688 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Totally agree 👍

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gnasher688
      Amazingly, I agree❤️

    • @gnasher688
      @gnasher688 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cheri238 - why amazingly ?? 🙏

    • @san1883
      @san1883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hasan Piker th-cam.com/video/oMxwRzVxS_k/w-d-xo.html

    • @shiraz3440
      @shiraz3440 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @hasanpiker9472 After hearing a speaker for hours and not being able to pinpoint his ideology or religion , speaks a lot about him and his exceptional skills.
      I heard him for hours and I'm still not sure what school of thought he is inclined to.

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity ปีที่แล้ว +271

    This was just exquisite, a supreme tour de force. To think that such quality is available for all, for free, it's just incredible. What an immense service. Not to be taken for granted. Thank you Filip. It's a true honour, delight and pleasure to be creating content alongside you. I know how much work goes into it. Respect.
    With love,
    Zevi

    • @Call_Upon_YAH
      @Call_Upon_YAH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let it be known to all:
      Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
      I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
      I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
      There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
      They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
      Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
      "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
      1 John 2:2 KJV
      2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
      Acts 13:26-33 KJV
      26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
      27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
      28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
      29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
      30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
      31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
      32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
      33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
      1 Peter 3:22 KJV
      22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      John 14:6 KJV
      6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
      Mark 16:16 KJV
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      John 8:24 KJV
      24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
      Acts 2:38 KJV
      38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Luke 11:13 KJV
      13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
      John 14:21-24 KJV
      21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
      22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
      23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
      24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*

    • @c.a.t.732
      @c.a.t.732 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Call_Upon_YAH Or to put it more succinctly: He sent Himself to have Himself killed as a sacrifice to Himself to save humanity from Himself.

    • @ericdumont610
      @ericdumont610 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Call_Upon_YAH how do you know what jesus said, as everything that was said about him happened 40 to 80 years after he died.

    • @musamusashi
      @musamusashi ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no place on TH-cam (or earth, for that matter) when one can be free from annoying Christian fanatic proselytising 🙄 and yet Christianity is fading out anyway. How come?

    • @bustedkeaton
      @bustedkeaton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Call_Upon_YAH you lost me at KJV, bottom feeder

  • @mysticbeastproductions6811
    @mysticbeastproductions6811 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I thought peeps would appreciate this quote from Matthew Fox in The Coming of The Cosmic Christ. "Without mysticism there will be no deep ecumenism, no unleashing of the power of wisdom from all the world's religious traditions". I hope you know Filip, that you along with your colleagues, are doing a great service for humanity. Keep up this holy work.

    • @jawaadkyaw2615
      @jawaadkyaw2615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have no words to say how praiseworthy you guys are.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's hard to appreciate anything from a video that claims Sufism was influenced by Islam but provides no evidence. You will find no mention of Plotinus or neoplatonism in the literature of Sufism from the earliest of times to after the demise of the relevance and popularity of philosophy altogether, long after al-Ghazali. There simply was no interest. Neoplatonism is an academic fiction.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cosmic Christ. Hilarious. Space Jesus. Celestial Savior. Silly. Christ means MESSIAH, the anointed, and has nothing to do with outer space, unless you mean the heavens. The world is a hilarious place, with the most ridiculous ideas being taken seriously by the most ridiculous people.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mysticism is a generic word used by Academics as an umbrella term to describe what they imagine is a secret part of religion. Because they don't know what else to call it, but it does not apply to anyone in specific. Nobody calls themselves a mystic who is not a conman. Mysterious rites are more of a pagan thing. The Elusynian mysteries for example. Academics and religion just don't go together, academics don't have a mind to understand religion and don't care if they are wrong, much, because it is just academic to them.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      That quote sounds like what someone who wants to be quoted but has nothing true to say, would say. But mysticism is a very abstract thing with no real definition and none of the other things mentioned ACTUALLY need it to exist on their own.

  • @AhsanHabibUnitedExpo
    @AhsanHabibUnitedExpo ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Hi, I'm from Bangladesh and love your wonderful works! Please keep it up. Wish you very good health, long and peaceful life.

    • @kingofdetroit358
      @kingofdetroit358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sucks. Bangladesh is a crazy country

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @King Of Detroit
      We are all walking in seas of maddness in our world today. All societies are being affected.
      Human nature 101. Wars for profits, powers of elites of greed.

    • @AhsanHabibUnitedExpo
      @AhsanHabibUnitedExpo ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kingofdetroit358 And how is that, have you ever been here? Which country are you from?

    • @peaceevol
      @peaceevol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingofdetroit358 maybe you were thinking about Detroit ( that sucks)
      How ridiculous you are to make such a statement . May God bring you out of the toilet that you have fallen into ☮️

    • @shadowwalker3958
      @shadowwalker3958 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typical Peter griffins.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for this topic on neo- platosim and the other links. I appreciate your analysis as always. Truly, it is a complex topic.
    Thank you for your wisdom and ideas for sharing with all of us who enjoy different philosophers and religious schools of thought and ethical backgrounds to gain more exposure to many I have not read about. As always, I appreciate your all your lectures and videos. With great respect and admiration, I am eternally grateful.❤️📚 This film of nature is magnificently placed.

  • @rizingfeeonix5678
    @rizingfeeonix5678 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great topic of study for the day... Looking forward to digesting the rest in the series... But tbh your delivery and tone is just on point... Many thanks to you and the rest of the team covering the various aspects 🙏🏼💯🙏🏼

  • @We.are.determined
    @We.are.determined ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cannot thank you enough for your tremendous contributions - I am full of admiration and inspiration by your balanced, insightful, Illuminating lectures.

  • @adamakaru2683
    @adamakaru2683 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr, Filip Holm I will listening to your lectures for as long as you lecture I can't get enough of it thank you.

  • @DeaconOfTheDank
    @DeaconOfTheDank ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm really enjoying the series on Neoplatonism. It's all very high quality content from everyone involved. You have a way of explaining philosophical concepts such that it's a bit easier to digest/comprehend for someone outside the religion.

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro. This is only a delusion. Don't believe him. Please do your own research on that topic and you'll see yourself how much mistakes he made.. let me ask you one thing. How can Islam pick and choose only the correct things from the Greek methodology and leave away all the false things they believed in? . Don't surrender your brain and intellect to him please.

  • @t0xcn253
    @t0xcn253 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    As someone who was converted from atheism by reading Plotinus, and who (after a winding path) ended up following the teachings of a Sufi Guru (Shirdi Sai Baba), this is exactly the topic I have been waiting for without knowing it! Thank you so much for bringing these connections to light.

    • @ww2germanhero
      @ww2germanhero ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's nice.
      I find Neoplatonism to be the missing link among religions. I mean, "The One" can easily be interpreted as God, Buddha nature, the Dao and so on...

    • @mat7083
      @mat7083 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re welcome

    • @t0xcn253
      @t0xcn253 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ww2germanhero You're absolutely right, this summed it up well I think by pointing out Avicenna's view that at the highest level there is only one truth. What path you take to get there is up to your personal preference (attitudes, tendencies, upbringing etc.) but ultimately the destination is unchanging.

    • @nerthus4685
      @nerthus4685 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@t0xcn253 And the differences in attitudes, tendencies and upbringing are part of the infinite variety of manifestation and expression of God's "hidden treasures".

    • @nerthus4685
      @nerthus4685 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shirdi Sai Baba is truly one of the great mystics in history.

  • @xenolinguistic
    @xenolinguistic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very very much! It was a great journey! And a great thank for the literature list that you are given! Discover your channel just few days ago, and will definitely be watching all the precious research and topics you've covered. Thank you for sharing a network of channels and researchers on such incredibly important topics that you explore not in terms of profanity, but in terms of good academic and thoughtful comparative analysis. Your channel is like a breath of fresh air. God bless you and success in all your endeavors and activities!

  • @sophiarahmaputri
    @sophiarahmaputri ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually shed tears on some part of the videos, great work!

  • @IpsissimusPrime
    @IpsissimusPrime ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow! This was an amazing lecture! That you are able to cover so much in a deep way is powerful! Thanks for one of the most succinct and beautiful English overviews of Ibn 'Arabi EVER!

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is all nonsense. He's only trying to deny the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him to be a messenger from God. And he failed as all his those who did the same try have failed. So what is you ( wow ) for?

  • @MrCoolioto
    @MrCoolioto ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is something I asked during my Middle Eastern studies, and I never had the tools to research outright. Thanks for making such an informed video on how these ideas moved and changed!

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And sorry to tell you that what you just heard in this video is abolute nonsense.

    • @onlyhistory8140
      @onlyhistory8140 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-em9cr8pr5qHow so?

  • @DaveTheTurd
    @DaveTheTurd ปีที่แล้ว

    Remarkably valuable episode in and of itself, but the value of this entire series is staggering. Thank you profusely for the effort that you and your colleagues are undertaking. Enlightening on so many levels, it defies explanation. Thank you.

  • @betweenearthandsky4091
    @betweenearthandsky4091 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a wonderful synthesis, a joy to witness, thank you for all your great work 🙏

  • @elenastubo
    @elenastubo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You all have read my mind and desires in creating these magnificent chapters on the influence of neupltonism. “God created them and they walked together”. I don’t think it is a coincidence that I found and follow you individually and suddenly you are collaborating in something I really wanted to know! Blessings. ❤️ Elena

  • @arondesta2357
    @arondesta2357 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In this era where most people spend their time listening or talking nonsense, listening to such an inspiring presentation is like finding a priceless treasure. Thanks for making this happen.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately nothing is more nonsensical than the claim that the Sufis had any interest in Hellenic philosophy, Plotinus was unknown to the Muslims and neoplatonism was invented by modern academics, did not really exist.

  • @betweenearthandsky4091
    @betweenearthandsky4091 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming back to this a year later, as I’m writing an essay in my Neoplatonic course ~ which you inspired me greatly to follow. Grateful for your wonderful work,again :)

  • @019KADESH
    @019KADESH ปีที่แล้ว

    i love that you write your sources I have bought many books on Amazon thanks to you

  • @Dantalliumsolarium
    @Dantalliumsolarium ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wanna chew out my philosophy class for never teaching me aaaanything about Islamic influence, but the prof probably just didn’t know either. It’s just so sad out how our education system has been so built to uplift one people, when we’ve all been struggling to understand and be kind in this world and just aaaaaaaaa
    Anywho!!! Thank you so much for all the work that you put into this videos

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      I challenge you to produce a single example of Islamic literature being influenced by so called neoplatonism.
      Few and far between were the Muslim philosophers who knew how to separate religion from philosophy. The allegation if influence is hypothetical and without real evidence.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      I applaud your philosophy teacher for avoiding such a fantastic claim. It's really easy to claim that Islam or Sufism were influenced by Neoplatonism or Greek philosophy.
      It's impossible to prove.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most important reason why neoplatonism could not have influenced Islam is that it was created by modern academics to describe many ancient philosophers and philosophies and make it appear that they belonged to one school of thought. This is a fantasy.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could search the literature of Islam for years looking for a single reference to the name Plotinus and what you will find is that he wasn't known. An-Nadim mentioned just his name, saying he saw it written on a scrap of paper. This is the only mention of Plotinus.
      His Enneads was attributed to Aristotle and was unpopular, after Al-Kindi nobody pays attention to it.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's neat at first when you find out that the Arabs and Muslims read Aristotle. But people are allowed to read books and even like them. That said, philosophy itself was not as popular as academics would have you believe. A handful of famous Muslim philosophers can be mentioned but this is not the same thing as saying that their personal opinions on philosophy had any effect on the Theology of Islam which predates the translation of Greek philosophy into Arabic.

  • @DiscipleFiveActual
    @DiscipleFiveActual 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Plato was known for the [same] Oneness and divine wisdom that influenced me."- Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran

  • @KA-vr4uu
    @KA-vr4uu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, I loved it…it reminded me so much of my many conversations with my beloved father. Thank you for the great job.

  • @jkd7799Yann
    @jkd7799Yann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are passionate in exposing these treasures, i can feel it. Thank you for your work. From a kurdish brother somewhere

  • @InnerEcstasy
    @InnerEcstasy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so well put together 👏, thank you 👍

  • @blinchikjan9486
    @blinchikjan9486 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful exposition Filip. I'm happy that you get deeper and deeper into ibn al-'Arabi's school of thought with every video from the Islamic series - you won't exhaust yourself with video ideas when it comes to the writings of him and his students!
    I definitely feel that you want to convey that the truth of Neoplatonism is the same truth as 'Akbarian' truth, or the 'Eckhartian' truth, etc. It definitely seems to be the case, but, moreso, the conclusion shared by these schools doesn't seem to simply be the logical endpoint of theology, even if it is a satisfying place for reason to rest. The shared epistemology for all the proponents of this understanding is not reason at all - but kashf/direct experience, stressing the graspable reality of these ideas. ibn al-'Arabi himself made sure to put ratiocination in the passenger seat for a reason. I think your line of thinking is correct, and is a view held by the perennialists. Just as God effuses into the myriad of different things, the sweetness of truth comes in many flavors!

  • @nancytoulouse6973
    @nancytoulouse6973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the understanding 💖 Blessings to you!

  • @iskandarkhantm6530
    @iskandarkhantm6530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive been waiting for this.

  • @jorgeabraham3414
    @jorgeabraham3414 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The quality of these lectures on neoplatonism has been totally outstanding, you are all brilliant, beautiful minds and souls. This teaching in particular was totally mind blowing and eye opening, I really did not have an idea of how influential neoplatonism has been in history. You guys are doing an incredible public service, bringing these topics to a broad audience in such skillful way. When buddhists say Upaya, I'm damn sure these learning experiences you are creating are what they are talking about.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heh. There never existed a school of philosophy called Neoplatonism. Worse, the philosophers dubbed Neo Platonist did belong to the same or one school. Still worse the honorary founder, Plotinus, was as much a disciple of Aristotle. Porphyry makes it known that all of the doctrine of Aristotle is in Plotinus. This is not said about Plato.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      There can be no such quality lecture on Neoplatonism it's an academic fiction. In reality the so called Neoplatonists were independent of one another. Worse the Muslims didn't know Plotinus and Sufism wasn't influenced by Plato. Neo or otherwise.

  • @azminapirani2933
    @azminapirani2933 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this most excellent illuminating and enlightening presentation. Young minds can benefit and appreciate such incisive and easily understandable content. I commend your collaboration team and look forward to more informative presentations.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel obligated to tell you that the premise is essentially a lie. No Sufi ever mentioned Plotinus and Neoplatonism is a fictitious school invented by modern academics desirous of claiming Platonic influence in a round about, fantastic manner.

  • @roberthouse4228
    @roberthouse4228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These concepts and understandings are very easy to understand. It's very clearly seen in everything around you, and you can experience this all within yourself.

  • @colingallagher1648
    @colingallagher1648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for the series

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

    • @Showme-SHORTS
      @Showme-SHORTS ปีที่แล้ว

      Read Dr Kashif Khan's ( Quran researcher) articles on the internet to know the Islam which the Quran brought. Read with an open mind and ask him questions if you don't understand something.

  • @TheMrSomecheesyname
    @TheMrSomecheesyname ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing video as always, they go too quickly! Will there be a 'Neoplatonism in Christian Thought'?

    • @FireEverLiving
      @FireEverLiving ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It definitely was/is extremely influential, so they could make a similarly detailed video on it. I hope they do. But maybe they don't have an expert on that.

  • @Peanuts76
    @Peanuts76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, I'm admiring your presentation about such a delicate topic, thank you philip for your work....

  • @musamusashi
    @musamusashi ปีที่แล้ว

    One more great presentation, Filip.
    And this collective effort on Neoplatonism is really outstanding: i am trying to watch as many as possible.

  • @Pl4sm0
    @Pl4sm0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I was a hidden treasure and I loved to be known, so I created the world so that I might be know"
    -Hadith Qudsi
    that sentence was a very deep beautiful thought

    • @saidhashi2856
      @saidhashi2856 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you proof the authenticity of this hadith???
      We would like to know wether its authentic or fabricated.

    • @saidhashi2856
      @saidhashi2856 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tradition of the Hidden Treasure is the most widely used Hadith in the field of speculative mysticism. It states: "I was a Hidden Treasure; I loved to be known, so I created the creation in order to be known." From the 5th/12th century onward this tradition has occurred in major Sufi texts, and the Sufi masters like Ibn al-Arabi and Rumi have made abundant use of it to build their mystical philosophy.
      However; This hadith has been identified as fabricated or baseless by many classical scholars. Therefore one must not attribute it to Allah (Most High) or His Messenger (peace be upon him). Rather one should strive to warn people against it.
      The Hadith, I was a hidden treasure that was unknown. And I loved to be known, so I created the creation. I gave them knowledge of myself, so they came to know me. (The Hadith) is baseless. (Imam Jalal al-Deen al-Sayuti, al-Durar al-Manthoorah).
      The Hadith, I was a hidden treasure that was unknown. And I loved to be known, so I created the creation. I gave them knowledge of myself, so they came to know me. (The Hadith) is baseless according to the explicit statements of Hufaadh like, Ibn Taymiyah, al-Zarkashi and al-Sakhaawi. (Imam Ali bin Sultan al-Qari, al-Mowdo’aat al-Sughraa).
      It is important to recognise that the onus is upon people narrating Hadith to reference them correctly. If they do not do so, then it should be requested of them. A failure to adhere to such practices has resulted in many dubious Hadith narrations spreading in the community.
      It is prohibited to attribute a fabricated or baseless Hadith to Allah (Most High) or His Messenger ﷺ. It is only permitted to mention such narrations to warn people about them. It must not be promoted or propagated.

  • @nerthus4685
    @nerthus4685 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this Filip. Truly astounding. For anyone interested, this (44:10) is an image of The Gulf of Saint Lawrence leading into Quebec. It has been reversed.

  • @bashirbulbulia8929
    @bashirbulbulia8929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content. A lot of themes and ideas that are well expressed. Thank you.

  • @methoali
    @methoali ปีที่แล้ว

    Impeccable work and true scholarship. Gratitude 🙏

  • @shayooooo
    @shayooooo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Filip for this. Each episode really broadens my understanding on neoplatonism, moreso in its application in Islamic Thought. I wanted to ask whether we see the transfer of these ideas in the African continent, anywhere besides Egypt and the Maghreb. Are there written traditions that you have come across that echo this similar discourse? Or has it mostly centred around the Arabian peninsula?

    • @user-mz8og5st8v
      @user-mz8og5st8v ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ibn Arabi and Ibn rushd were andalucian arabs and I think some west african sufi tariqahs like the tidjanis may be heavily inspired by the neoplatonic akbari sufi school or may be neoplatonic themselves
      I'm not entirely sure about east africa though

    • @angelocortes8940
      @angelocortes8940 ปีที่แล้ว

      Possibly Southern Africa with Ubuntu?

  • @lukasrobinson4077
    @lukasrobinson4077 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful work Filip! Please keep doing what you are doing!

  • @religiologEng
    @religiologEng ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much Filip! This is amazing stuff!

  • @ilyasanzo
    @ilyasanzo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    الا بذكر الله تطمئن القلوب

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This should be amazing- keep up the great work! 💚🙏🐢🐍
    I find the transmission to Islam of Plotinus and Porphyry via Pseudo-Aristotle's Theology just fascinating.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately it's entirely fictional.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is, the hypothesis which claims Neoplatonic influence on Islam or Sufism. Plotinus was unknown to the Muslim world his one book being attributed to Aristotle allegedly. There is literally no evidence.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      If true it was 2 Enneads only. It was seen as the work of Aristotle to the few who cared. Sufism was against philosophers in general and cares nothing for Plotinus. Neoplatonism is fiction.

  • @omarhagag8252
    @omarhagag8252 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing episode. Thank you very much!

  • @pwnedshift1
    @pwnedshift1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I promise I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that your lectures on neo-platonism are among the best videos I've seen on this entire website and present some of the most fascinating ideas that I have ever heard in my entire life.

  • @MillhouseSpeaks
    @MillhouseSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you haven’t already please do a video on the zahiri school of thought

    • @thescholiast5118
      @thescholiast5118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zahiri is a legal theory, like Maliki, Hanafi, etc. not a theological theory. Theologically, the Zahiri is Sunni.

    • @syedmujtabahussain4149
      @syedmujtabahussain4149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thescholiast5118 doesn't matter. People following it were killed by Shafi'i mamluks.

  • @TheCinamanic
    @TheCinamanic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope ull take this positively.. it's pronounced shifaa not sheefaa and 3qlul awwal (with a tashdeed) not awal nafsul kuliyya not kuliyaa. The pronunciation matters as it effects the meaning with the wrong pronunciation
    All other terms were pronounced very intellectually.
    Loving this ❤️❤️❤️

  • @-zorkaz-5493
    @-zorkaz-5493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just started reading Death and the Dervish, so this video came out at just the right moment. There is so much shared imagerie just within the first chapter. Thank you Filip for yet more incredible content.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is the author? Interesting fact, Dervish is the Persian equivalent of the Arabic "Faqir" as in a poor person. Some associate it with the "Whirling Dervishes" only. You might enjoy AR-Risalah al-Qushayriah by al-Qushayri as it is one of the oldest available, and in English.

    • @-zorkaz-5493
      @-zorkaz-5493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yusufg.1281 Thank you so much for the recommendation! I'll have a look. And despite finishing the Death and the Dervish I did not know that about dervishes! The author is Milan Selimovic, it's set in Bosnia under the Ottoman Empire, though it is written in the sixties I believe. It's an incredible novel, and the setting is particularly interesting.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@-zorkaz-5493 Also Google kitab al futuwah by Al-Sulami, one of the most important authors there is, known as the Book of Chivalry in English. Deliverance from Error by al Ghazali, all available in pdf.

    • @friedrickhugo7562
      @friedrickhugo7562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@-zorkaz-5493It is Mehmed Meša Selimović, not Milan Selimović!

  • @faridahmad2013
    @faridahmad2013 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please shed some light on the concept of "Haqeeqat Muhammadia" as told by Ibn e Arabi... thanks

    • @Call_Upon_YAH
      @Call_Upon_YAH ปีที่แล้ว

      Let it be known to all:
      Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
      I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
      I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
      There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
      They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
      Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
      "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
      1 John 2:2 KJV
      2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
      Acts 13:26-33 KJV
      26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
      27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
      28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
      29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
      30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
      31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
      32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
      33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
      1 Peter 3:22 KJV
      22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      John 14:6 KJV
      6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
      Mark 16:16 KJV
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      John 8:24 KJV
      24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
      Acts 2:38 KJV
      38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Luke 11:13 KJV
      13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
      John 14:21-24 KJV
      21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
      22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
      23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
      24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*

    • @lilsomething8905
      @lilsomething8905 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Call_Upon_YAH Bullshit.

    • @huny285
      @huny285 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brother freed this man has a little bit grasp on rational aspects and I praise him for that but he isn't the one you should be concerning to if it comes to IBN Al Arabi and especially on fasus ul hikma I would recommend you to find someone who has grasp on farsi teaching and who himself is Sufi..

  • @egyptiangreekmuslim
    @egyptiangreekmuslim ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Islam is the survival of neo-platonic wisdom & genuine mysticism , this is what attracted me to Islam . Christianity unfortunately became a social club while Judaism has lost it's neo-platonic tradition long time ago now it's a poisonous political club even though some few Jews tried to revive it's wisdom like Rabbi Zalman Schachter Shalomi but with no to little success , the future is certainly for Islam to lead the world's spiritual quest .

    • @als1438
      @als1438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree to a certain degree with you but unfortunately most of today's Islam or better to say today's "Ulama" lost its very core I mean the spiritual/ mystical/gnostic dimension it became almost like an empty egg shell with very little contents inside. Besides that Islamic mysticism is not only similar with Neoplatonism but also with Gnostic Christianity and Zoroastrianism in certain aspects although we must admit that all off despite the differences have many things in common.

    • @chendaforest
      @chendaforest ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are not wrong.

  • @borneternallordallah1472
    @borneternallordallah1472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Display of the Knowledge and Wisdom!

  • @soundslikenobody1850
    @soundslikenobody1850 ปีที่แล้ว

    ONE OF THE BEST ONES SO FAR!!!!!

  • @greegmcnight5810
    @greegmcnight5810 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish there will be an episode which the topic is the mechanics and the ways to become ONE with the ONE. Inshallah

    • @greegmcnight5810
      @greegmcnight5810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To know HIM is simple but if not it takes 10 years or more to understand, with the taufik of allah asawajal we can understand this. Inshallah

  • @sacredmetaphics
    @sacredmetaphics ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thank you for your intellectual and beautiful videos on comparative religion. During these end times, the only hope and comfort for the individual is spiritual intellectualism. The universal concepts of religious and spiritual thought leads the soul to the path of the One. Thank you for all your work. Namaste, amen and salutations in every language possible.

  • @fatemaalbalooshi1980
    @fatemaalbalooshi1980 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am learning so much from watching your episodes … thank you 🙏🏻

  • @niji_no_saki
    @niji_no_saki ปีที่แล้ว

    Misykatul Anwar got a shout out 😍😍
    It's one of my favorite classical books. It's relatively short but so rich. It resonates to my longing so much that I find myself coming back to it again & again, each time gaining new perspective.

  • @abdar-rahman6965
    @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Prophet Mohammad, then 4 Caliphs, and then all Companions of Prophet left behind ONLY one written Book, and that is Quran. They never certified as SAHIH any extra-Quranic report of Hadith, Hadith Qudsi, Sunnah, Seera, Fiqh and Tafsir. So logically, rationally and legally we cannot classify even one extra-Quranic report as SAHIH*

    • @azote339
      @azote339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was literally the companions رضي الله عنهم that narrated the ahadith.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azote339
      Prophet, and all Sahaaba left behind no any manuscript of any Hadith. So, there is no any Proof that if they narrated any hadith. Fact is: after the death of Prophet, after the death of four Caliphs, and after the death of all Companions; Sunni and Shia heretical Imams started to quote stories in the names of Sahaaba *but no any Sahaabi was living at that time to confirm that if he has told that story or not. Six Books of Sunni Sect and 4 of Shia sects were FORGED by Defeated Persians of Zoroastrian Ancestry 250-400 years after the death of Prophet, and that time is a bigggggggg gap*
      Because Rasool, 4 Caliphs, and all Companions of Prophet *IN PERSON* certified no any Hadith (written in Hadith Books) as Sahih; so, morally, logically and legally, we cannot classify any Hadith as Sahih.
      For example, we read in Book "Sahih-Muslim" that A heard from B and B heard from C and C Heard from D that Prophet said: all Black Dogs are Devil.
      First of all, it is matter of commonsense to reason that Prophet could never tell this kind of Moronic Joke that Black Dogs are Devils only because their color is black.
      Besides; how will you know that if A, B, C, and D really told this story, or someone forged this story (as it appears), and he fabricated Chain/Isnad, and then he attached that moronic comic story to the names of A, B, C, D?
      Other Example: Gama heard from Jama who heard from Talha who heard from Aisha who heard from Abu Bakar who heard from Prophet that *Rats are a Tribe of Jews* (this joke is given in Books of Bukhari and Muslim).
      Now, how will you confirm if this story was really told by Talha, Aisha, Abu Bakar and Prophet because when this story was fabricated, at that time, Talha, Aisha, Abu Bakar and Prophet were not alive. *They were not there to confirm the Authenticity of that story.*
      Fact is: when a Hadither-Forger can Forge Matan (text) of Hadith; same Forger can also Forge Chain/Isnad of Narrations; *and same was said by German Muslim Scholar Dr. Murad Wilfried Hofmann.*
      *Besides; we read in almost all Well known Books of Sunni sects as follow:*
      1- Prophet forbade to write his hadiths. *So what Hadiths?*
      2- Caliph Abu Bakar forbade Hadiths. He said: "La Tuhadithu" *So what Hadiths?*
      3- Caliph Umar *burned and banned all Hadiths* and equated Hadiths to Jewish Talmud/Mishnah. *So what Hadiths?*
      4- Caliph Umar wrote letters to all city Governors to erase all Hadiths. *So what Hadiths?*
      5- *Caliph Umar placed three Companions of Prophet under house arrest FOR LIFE due to their Hadith-Mongering.* ----- *So what Hadiths?*
      6- Caliph Umar refused to write SUNNAH of Prophet. *So what Sunnah and what Hadiths?*
      7- Caliph Ali told Muslims in one sermon: erase all Hadiths because nations before you were gone astray because they stuck to hadith books of their Scholars, and abandoned Book of Allah. *So what Hadiths?*
      8- Caliph Ameer Mu'Awia told people: Do not narrate hadiths. *So what Hadiths? Where did you bring these all millions of Fabricated Hadiths from? Where from?*
      *_We never post any thing without Reference. You can read all References as Scanned pages from Original Ancient Arabic Books in our page "True History of Hadiths and Sunnah"_*

    • @azote339
      @azote339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abdar-rahman6965 Allah سبحانه وتعالى mentions several times in the Qur'an to obey the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم, his Sunnah which we derive from the authentic classified narrations.
      "He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80]
      “O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]
      “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63]
      And many more verses that clearly indicate us to follow the Sunnah of the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم.
      The authenticity of narrations are carefully examined by the scholars who dedicated their entire lives to this science. There are many guidelines to it, in accordance to the shari'ah. I highly suggest you to follow Allahs order to obey the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم and study the science of the ahadith and all the conditions to their classifications instead of spreading your misguidance in the comments.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azote339
      Seems: You Fanatic is a Jaahil of Superlative Degree, who does not have brain in his head, and who is posting 1200 years old READY-MADE Rants of Sunni and Shia Sects. You are posting your READY-MADE Rants even without reading my previous Comments. This is the way which Sunni and Shia Mullahs have been teaching you Jaahil Fanatics from 1200 years.
      *O Ibn Abu Jaahil:* Tell me how will you obey Rasool?
      There is only one way to obey Rasool and that way is: to obey that BOOK which he left behind for us, and name of that Book is not Talmud, Vida, Puranas, Bukhari or Al-Kafi but name of that Book is Quran only.5:44-48, 12:106, 42:10, 6:114, 6:19, 10:15, 39:13, 50:45, 16:116, 10:59-60, 7:32, 7:2-3, 11:18, 66:1, 28:56, 72:21, 2:272, 3:80, 18:110, 29:18, 5:92, 5:99, 42:48, 3:20, 2:213, 16:64, 24:54, 36:17, 13:40, 16:35, 16:82, 64:12, 12:111, 16:89, 17:12, 25:30, 25:33, 29:51, 45:6, 46:9, 28:85, 42:15, 2:159, 7:157, 47:2.
      O Ibn Abu Lahb: Learn that:
      Rasool and all Sahaaba left behind NO ANY extra-Quranic manuscript
      *Quran makes very clear in following verses that Sole Task given to Mohammad by God was NO MORE THAN to deliver Quran clearly. This is why: Mohammad left behind Only Quran. Following verses make Clear that Mohammad was mere AN AGENCY of God. So meaning of OBEY ALLAH AND RASOOL is to follow only Quran which he only left behind.*
      39:41, 6:107, 29:18, 5:92, 5:99, 3:20, 24:54, 42:6, 42:48, 64:12, 16:64, 2:213, 39:41, 18:110, 28:56, 72:21, 2:272, 27:92, 50:45. 12:111, 16:89, 17:12, 6:114, 10:15, 6:19, 13:40, 3:80, 75:19

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azote339 Before posting your Nonsense, read my previous comments, and do not waste time. I have answered all your nonsensical Rants in my previous Comments. Do not post your rants without reading my comments fully

  • @Madara-201
    @Madara-201 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Filip, hope you have a great day❤.
    I wanted to point out that the Qudsi hadith " I was a hidden treasure; I loved to be known. Hence I created the world so that I would be known" is a weak hadith or fabricated according to many Muslim scholars.
    I would appreciate if you said the degree of authenticity of Hadiths.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
      Hope you have an equally great day!

    • @Huzefakhozemasaifee
      @Huzefakhozemasaifee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LetsTalkReligion I'd do you two one better: May you two have a much better day than I ever had.

  • @javedrizvi5739
    @javedrizvi5739 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work brother. May Allah bless you with good health and ever increasing success!

  • @Nalhek
    @Nalhek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant work as always!

  • @wanselamat1971
    @wanselamat1971 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a 'Wahabi' i approved your opinions,talks and explaination all through out of this video.. i salute & respect your great works and knowledge! May Allah preserve and guide you on straight path on this world and hereafter!

    • @Hypothetical-Being
      @Hypothetical-Being ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wahhabism is cancer lol

    • @themerchant2579
      @themerchant2579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never thought I'd come across someone who'd call himself a wahabi lol , prophet Muhammad peace be upon his said 73 of my ummah will be in the fire except 1 and it's those who are on my sunnah

    • @wanselamat1971
      @wanselamat1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@themerchant2579 you're right brother..! Btw i'm used to it..(the calling) ;)

    • @wanselamat1971
      @wanselamat1971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hypothetical-Being 'cancer' because we reject 'platonism' in Islam.. ?

    • @Hypothetical-Being
      @Hypothetical-Being ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wanselamat1971 Islam in general is a cancer on humanity, it’s an outdated and barbaric cult. However, I still have some respect for Sufi philosophers, because they try their best to fit their flawed religion with perennial truth. The same can’t be said for fundamentalist literalists like Wahhabis who delude themselves by taking the worst aspects of Islam with no regard for actual truth.

  • @peaceevol
    @peaceevol ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ☮️ Peace to all, there is no Islamic Mysticism, Sufism is not Islamic Mysticism, Sufism is Islam itself ❤️☮️

    • @Abu.Ayah_CA
      @Abu.Ayah_CA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sufism is not Islam. It is an innovation and rejected by God.

  • @pedroarroyo345
    @pedroarroyo345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video, very inspiring stuff

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, you go into a depth and thoroughness that other channels just don't.

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is the depth in this? Sorry, but this is only a delusion from the truth. All what he said was a lie upon a lie upon another lie. ....

    • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
      @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-em9cr8pr5q Well, neoplatonism itself is certainly false, but it can be useful to learn about the false ideas other people believe in order to better preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them.

    • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
      @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-em9cr8pr5q Well, neoplatonism itself is certainly false, but it can be useful to learn about the false ideas other people believe in order to better preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them.

  • @abdar-rahman6965
    @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Teaching of Last Book of God "Quran" and original-genuine teaching of Socrates should not contradict because Socrates was a Rasool/Man of God, and Plato was student of Socrates and Aristotle was student of Plato. --- 2500 years ago, God sent his three men to guide people, Buddha to Indians, Confucius to Chinese, and Socrates to west. Quran tells: God sent his Rasools to all nations 40:78, **16:36*

  • @johnson7434
    @johnson7434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    According to Islam, Mary can have a Son without a man touching her. But inorder for Allah to have a Son , he needs a wife.

    • @experience741
      @experience741 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? Can you explain it more?

    • @johnson7434
      @johnson7434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@experience741 Quran 6 - 101.. Allah says He can't have a Son without Mate ..
      But Muslims defends the above verse by saying Allah does not need any wife.
      Muslims are deciding themselves what Allah should need or not need. .😁😁

    • @med8895
      @med8895 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@johnson Allah is not a Woman to give birth to a baby, that's first.
      Second Allah isn't Male or Female, and the word Son in the Semitic Bible was used as a way of endearment not biological

    • @johnson7434
      @johnson7434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@med8895 Your Allah himself is telling that he cannot have a Son without Wife...😁😁

    • @experience741
      @experience741 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@med8895 well if your God is omnipotent then the surah doesn't need to exist at all. Because it's indicate that Allah in order to has child need mate and not because his own power. I mean omnipotent being could use just his word to create child. "Let there be child"

  • @subhanhasan990tsikfm
    @subhanhasan990tsikfm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do you always manage to find the most interesting topics. Mad respect

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is interesting in what he said?

  • @amirs.currim6442
    @amirs.currim6442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely superb, Filip.

  • @abdar-rahman6965
    @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *There is no any thing such as Noor-Mohammadiya. This kind of Shirk is followed by Corrupted Jaahil Mushrik Sufis. Quran makes very clear that Mohammad was Prophet of God, and he was a mortal man like all other mortal men 18:110, and his Sole Duty was to deliver Quran and go back **29:18**, 5:99, **3:20**, **42:48**. No any so called Noor-Mohammadiya. Prophet Mohammad was mere an Agency of God = Divine Postman. This is why, as soon as revelations of Quran were completed; within a short period he died. This is why, he left behind NO ANY MANUSCRIPT except written Quran*

  • @jasemalhammadi4228
    @jasemalhammadi4228 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Neoplatonism borrowed from eastern philosophies of finding inner peace from within. this is in contrast to the western philosophy which seeks change from outside (thus the rise of empiricism and science in the western world). Neoplatonism had huge impact on sufism. it created the mystic and ascetic look of sufism which didn’t make a great impact on the world because it’s esoteric and unfalsifiable. Anyway, all the ideas that came from neoplatonism and all its followers are just mere speculations vs the Aristotelian tradition which was empirical and falsifiable. so Neoplatonism lost the race to Aristotelianism. One more point worth mentioning that neoplatonism and its followers in the islamic followers were considered heretics because they spoke speculatively without evidence about God which was a red line in Islam. Aristotelian tradition on the other hand triumphed because it sought answers about the creations not the creator. the creations can be examined but the creator can’t. Period.

    • @monkeymoment6478
      @monkeymoment6478 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Literally who asked

    • @mt000mp
      @mt000mp ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@monkeymoment6478 i asked

    • @Ruu555
      @Ruu555 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@monkeymoment6478 bruh don’t kill the mood like that

    • @8q_en15
      @8q_en15 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The fact that you begin your argument with a crap like ''western thought has/had poor capacity for esoteric/spiritual stuff" is uncalled for at its best and incorrect at worst. The implicit assumption of oriental monopoly in spiritual matters is the first thing you have to look into with more rational humility.

    • @ixxrossorxxi6291
      @ixxrossorxxi6291 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aristotelian tradition is an innovation too. You literally have ash'aris talking about Allah with zero knowledge by denying His attributes.

  • @benjaminburstein5970
    @benjaminburstein5970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your channel! Your videos are insightful and done in a way that connects different beliefs, rather than divides them.

    • @user-em9cr8pr5q
      @user-em9cr8pr5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I suggest you love yourself more and seek salvation. Truth is one way and all what he said is the other way.

  • @zak992
    @zak992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this, well broken down for a layman like me, impressed by your arabic pronunciations, there is the universal truth of one God you see being expressed differently in different eras and in different civilisations and how to connect to Him, enjoyed your presentation on the topic

  • @celesteerendrea4762
    @celesteerendrea4762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video and the previous one have been a revelation to me. Even though I've done a fair amount of reading and taken courses in philosophy, the idea that neo-platonism is so fundamental to western culture never became clear to me until now. I'm beginning to understand why the west became hierarchical, with top-down, authoritarian thinking informing everything about the culture. No wonder grass-roots, bottom-up ideas are so hard to put across. Obviously it's more complicated than that, but you've given me a great deal to think about. Thanks.

  • @erin1569
    @erin1569 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there! I've just watched your collab with Genetically Modified Skeptic, it was super cool seeing you on Drew's channel and I'll definitely binge watch yours.

  • @esotericpilgrim548
    @esotericpilgrim548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another land mark of information by our friend Mr. Flip H. With love ❤️ a Indian sufi student.

  • @Primetiime32
    @Primetiime32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the lecture , brilliantly explained .

  • @somerandomguy6028
    @somerandomguy6028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video. Especially the part about the entification of God was truly mind-blowing.

  • @russv.winkle8764
    @russv.winkle8764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    beautiful presentation, I had no idea that Sufism was this awesome!

  • @davidwartski7213
    @davidwartski7213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great! Stuff that I didn't know that I wanted to know. Thanks!

    • @Call_Upon_YAH
      @Call_Upon_YAH ปีที่แล้ว

      Be it known:
      Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
      I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
      I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
      There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
      They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
      Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
      "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
      1 John 2:2 KJV
      2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
      Acts 13:26-33 KJV
      26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
      27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
      28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
      29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
      30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
      31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
      32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
      33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
      1 Peter 3:22 KJV
      22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
      John 14:6 KJV
      6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
      Mark 16:16 KJV
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      John 8:24 KJV
      24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
      Acts 2:38 KJV
      38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Luke 11:13 KJV
      13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
      John 14:21-24 KJV
      21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
      22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
      23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
      24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*

  • @RPNDWORLDWIDE
    @RPNDWORLDWIDE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are great, you are legendary. You have much knowledge. Thank you great one.

  • @JalalUddin-nn3yb
    @JalalUddin-nn3yb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best teacher and very interestingly suggest multiple essences and understanding of the ultimate reality different Islamic sufistic traditions in lslam. I enjoyed to hear about diverse school of thoughts.❤🎉

  • @RA-vq3dk
    @RA-vq3dk ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work. Thank you

  • @Azeez89
    @Azeez89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work!

  • @flamencocristobal
    @flamencocristobal ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent! excellent! excellent video!!!! another one well done!!! 100%

  • @brianjovanovic791
    @brianjovanovic791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An excellent presentation in the right direction

  • @HassanRadwan133
    @HassanRadwan133 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well presented. Thanks.

  • @Dunmerdog
    @Dunmerdog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel so lucky to be given this first rate education for absolutely free. Thank you so much!

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      First rate? Didn't you notice that there is no evidence to support the claim that Islam or Sufism ever concerned itself with a school of philosophy invented by modern academics?
      Of course not. But this is the truth. Neoplatonism never existed. Islam never cared about Plotinus and owes nothing to Greek philosophy, which is something outside the scope of religion.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would be fortunate to be one of the people who actually asks for proof. I had a nice little debate with the maker who believed that Plotinus was known to the Muslim world. He was under the impression that Plotinus was called the Greek Sheik. This is false. Shahrastani referred to Aristotle by this title and Aristotle was known by many as the Greek Sheik. I had to educate him regarding this matter.

    • @yusufg.1281
      @yusufg.1281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Further, he believed that Plotinus was known in the Muslim world but I informed him that, according to the available literature, Plotinus was just a name written on a scrap of paper mentioned by An-Nadim.
      The rest of the so called neoplatonists are of no consequence. Unable to defend what he claimed the video maker had not since replied.
      I would reassess that thought if I were you. A first class education does not deal with make believe schools of philosophy and the desires of European academics to attribute everything to the heathen Hellenes.

  • @ahmedothman1985
    @ahmedothman1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing work

  • @laylaali5977
    @laylaali5977 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent program

  • @someofmyvideos774
    @someofmyvideos774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @christinapabers6040
    @christinapabers6040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Angela's Symposium referred your content. I'm looking forward to hearing your work.

  • @LeeFerikson
    @LeeFerikson ปีที่แล้ว

    you're on a roll, dude

  • @bond1844
    @bond1844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 🙏👍 alot for the insight, excellent content. I really love the recommended read 📚📚. Stay blessed.

  • @abdar-rahman6965
    @abdar-rahman6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well presented - thanks

  • @nathanaelsmith3553
    @nathanaelsmith3553 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to listening to this a second and probably a third time.

  • @ahmedmoataz2717
    @ahmedmoataz2717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brother you are presenting a great work. A legacy and a heritage for lots of coming generations to reference. This effort is significant. I am a muslim and it is a honour to continue learning about the philosophy of islam and the schools of thinking and by which intellectual directions it was influenced throughout history. Allah bless you, my brother ❤

  • @javadfiroozi
    @javadfiroozi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. It was very informative.