You should definitely get a colorimeter to measure manufacturer's claims. It would add value to your review by providing us with important information.
@@Games_and_Tech the issue is the ppi, if you want high refresh rate you would need a gpu to support, 1440p with a rx 7900 xtx is around 165fps, 4k is probs around 120fps
Backlighting is fantastic on the back of a panel. Immersive as all hell if done right for gaming, and makes watching movies or even gaming in a dark space really nice. Built in backlight is a selling point for me.
@@afrika1982 hmmm it really depends how long it’s been sitting there in its box. I would do it just in case. I only did the first update, cba to keep doing it as I have no issues with the monitor
Which firmware version are you using? Did you have any of the flickering issues that Unboxed found (on v.1.1) if using the latest firmware version (1.3.1)?
here before the losers comment that they'd "prefer" this monitor in "32 inches" because "4K is too much for 27 inches" - WRONG. We want 8K at 27 inches. No more visible pixels!!!!
This monitor is more than just a gaming monitor. It can also be used for content creation, which iswhat I would mostly use it for. A typical "Professional" photo/video editing monitor from brands like BenQ or Ezio go for, at MINIMUM, $1500-$2500USD. I do photo editing and I would never edit my work on a cheap $250-$300 monitor. Also, as far as the price, it was over $1000USD when it was first released. Glad to see the price is coming down.
4k at this size and desktop distance are wasted frames. Its better to have a dedicated monitor for each and if i would only want one monitor I would certainly opt for an ultrawide option.
I tried to like this monitor but the haloing effect kept me from enjoying it. Somehow I ended up with a glossy dough on eBay and loved it more than this one.
Thank you for the review. User in general are not really positive on this monitor. Too many issues and bad QC as far as I have read. Cooler master might need to do some additional work.
Because the Coolermaster has a higher refresh rate of 160hz and will absolutely demolish the QLED in HDR content thanks to it's over 500 dimming zones and HDR 1000 brightness.
@@acurisur Listen son, better learn your shit first, before speaking in public. Firstly, 4k@ 160fps, would love to see which gpu could handle that. Secondly, modern led tvs have around 1000 local dimming zones and OLED tv's got millions. As far as the nits go, modern tv easily reach 2000 in hdr or 1000 in sdr. So, before acting smart again, better doublecheck your sources.
@@WrongButtonWB You said QLED, not OLED. Did you just move the goalposts? QLED and OLED are two different technologies. A gpu that can handle 4k at 160fps? Well that would depend on the game wouldn't it? Would a 4090 be able to handle a 10 year old game at 4k 160fps? Absolutely. Also, there's no such thing as 2000 HDR, that's a marketing term, but I need to "doublecheck my sources" right? As for "better learn your shit first" and "before acting smart again" , you're America, I take it? That would explain the complete absence of any manners.
@@acurisur OLED or QLED, take your pick, for the price of the monitor mentioned in this vid, you can choose amongst few models.. "There s no such thing as 2000 HDR" is not what I said, I was telling you about the fact that modern tv's can handle 2000 nits at some hdr content, as a peak brightness, while providing 1000 nits at sdr content. Again, being clueless about the stuff you're writing is not my problem nor does it reflects where am I from. Good luck running old ass games @4k 160fps, specially if they were frame locked under 100 (which I bet many were, if we are really talking about "old games"). I'm sure you can cherry pick a single game which can run to "prove your point" that this crap of a display worth almost 1k $, and that's great. If you are happy with it, good on you.
@@WrongButtonWB But you won't get a display like that for the same price as this monitor so your entire argument falls apart. You might be able to get a "55 inch qled 4k 120 hz" as you originally said, but it won't be a mini LED at this price point, I should know because I've looked. QLED is crap compared to Mini LED and OLED. Also no serious PC gamer is going to pick a Tv over a monitor due to the lack of Displayport connections, so you're capped at 120hz which is absolutely shit. A ultrawide OLED monitor, like you can get from Alienware, is going to be better than of the QLED tvs you keep banging on about.
If only monitors this price would give more fps xD people would buy, but for 4k for gaming id waste my money on a tv like the lg G3. I settled for qhd 240hz ips still expensive but hey at least it doesnt cost the same as my gpu xD
27" looks tiny compared to the my 49" ultrawide monitor and my 70" 4k TV, I could never go back to 27'. 4k seems a bit over kill too for a 27" monitor. Cheers.
It depends how close you're sat to the monitor, I used to have a 1440p 27 inch Qdot ISP monitor and the image was worse than my current 27 inch 4k TN monitor because I'm sat really close to it. Pixel density matters if you're sat close to the screen.
You're thinking of using it at 100% scaling. The reason you get a 4K 27 inch is to use it at 150% scaling to get a sharper 1440p framing compared to native 1440p. It's the same reason why smartphones have over 1080p resolution and even over 1440p resolution on a screen that's only around 6.5 inch
3.7 stars on amazon :) Ain't killing game at all. I guess CM has just started their marketing campaign and that's the reason why every tech reviewer on youtube making videos about this monitor right now with that "iT's ThE bEsT GaMinG mONitoR EVER!!!!!!11!!!!" shit. Just read the real reviews
There are pretty of reviewers who trashed the monitor when it was first released because of all the issues with the monitor. Even after the firmware updates, some reviewers were still a bit hesitant on referring the monitor. 'Hardware/Monitors Unboxed' and 'Tech Testers' are 2 that come to mind that were extremely critical on the monitor.
I own this monitor and for me it’s an end game monitor for my gaming and learning production based workflows 🥰🤩😱🤯🤤 I’m also using the updated firmware (from earlier this year 2023)). Great to see this monitor getting more coverage 💪💪
I can't wait to get a micoLED monitor. But I can't see myself paying more than $500 for a monitor any time soon. But maybe in a few years micoLED will be cheaper.
This looks and sound like an awesome and I hope you do more monitor reviews. Btw i'm thinking of getting a monitor called the Samsung G51C 27 inch but i can't find any reviews on it. If anyone knows about this monitor than please comment on this, thanks!
For anyone interested in this monitor, it's utter shit and my advice is to avoid it and any other mini led display using the KTC backlight. The things have a 6-7 month lifespan then one half of the backlight will die, also the firmware is terrible.
I have a colorimeter and the newest firmware has a bug that when you use HDR the brightness has over 1500 nits... and if you don't turn the brightness on the monitor down while in HDR you push out over 1500 nits and that kills the backlight since it is not meant to reach 1500 nits...
@@letho1157 I dunno but half the backlight dying within the first year was a common issue with the GP27Q/U. I RMA'd mine but was told the Q and U are no longer in production and was shipped an 11 instead which is a quite a bit worse than the Q/U. It's advertised as a 1500 nit monitor but it can only hit that in a 25% window, also it has some of the worst black smear and motion clarity you'll see with a modern display.
Thanks for a really nice review. But please stop saying that monitor brightness can damage your eyes, that is simply not true. Sure, it can be uncomfortable in a dark room, but damage, no. Please provide a source if you think I am wrong :)
What's it like when you go from a dark room or you just woke up and you go outside into the midday sun? It kinda hurts right? Just saying. Dark room bright screen, looking from one to the other, sometimes for hours on end.
Dang, short of OLED this one's got all the bells and whistles. I'd snap it up just for content creation and media consumption. I'm rocking the Cooler Master GM27-FQS ARGB (the next model down) for the past three months and I'm loving it. My only criticism is the lacklustre HDR implementation. It's HDR400 and 8bit depth.
You should definitely get a colorimeter to measure manufacturer's claims. It would add value to your review by providing us with important information.
White balance out of box is shit and colors are almost passable. Rtings has good graphs for this and Monitors Unboxed also has a great review
If it was 32 inches, closer to 1000 zones i will jump to buy it...
I’m the opposite. I wouldn’t buy it if it was that big.
@@115zombies935 I have a 27in 1440p, 4k at 27in it is not the ideal resolution at that size... but at 32 would be idea for work and gaming
get the 27m2v by innocn
@@Games_and_Tech the issue is the ppi, if you want high refresh rate you would need a gpu to support, 1440p with a rx 7900 xtx is around 165fps, 4k is probs around 120fps
@@alpabdinhoalawal7722 5090 and 8950xt are coming soon
Backlighting is fantastic on the back of a panel. Immersive as all hell if done right for gaming, and makes watching movies or even gaming in a dark space really nice. Built in backlight is a selling point for me.
I got mine about 7 months ago, absolutely love it, so happy with it
Just ordered my one, do you think I need to update some firmware or what I keep hearing? Thanks
@@afrika1982 hmmm it really depends how long it’s been sitting there in its box. I would do it just in case. I only did the first update, cba to keep doing it as I have no issues with the monitor
@@mjsmjs2765 Thank you! I assume I can google it how to do that.
I'd definitely be keen on seeing more monitor reviews - particularly ultrawide monitors (with a focus on affordable monitors).
Which firmware version are you using? Did you have any of the flickering issues that Unboxed found (on v.1.1) if using the latest firmware version (1.3.1)?
Yes, please answer these questions! Would be very useful
here before the losers comment that they'd "prefer" this monitor in "32 inches" because "4K is too much for 27 inches" - WRONG. We want 8K at 27 inches. No more visible pixels!!!!
Quality monitor review fams. Sounds like a sweet 4K monitor. keep up the awesome work!
My experience with the ktc version of this monitor has been blissful. Needless to say the hdr quality and color vibrancy is worth every penny.imo...
hi what are your some of problems if you don't mind sharing
Please do a video on the GP27Q the same monitor but with 2K instead of 4K.
nice looking monitor, mini led looks legit great job guys loving the format
This monitor is more than just a gaming monitor. It can also be used for content creation, which iswhat I would mostly use it for. A typical "Professional" photo/video editing monitor from brands like BenQ or Ezio go for, at MINIMUM, $1500-$2500USD. I do photo editing and I would never edit my work on a cheap $250-$300 monitor.
Also, as far as the price, it was over $1000USD when it was first released. Glad to see the price is coming down.
4k at this size and desktop distance are wasted frames. Its better to have a dedicated monitor for each and if i would only want one monitor I would certainly opt for an ultrawide option.
@@The2808erik that's your opinion. I would rather have one monitor for both. Takes up less space.
@@ABP8214 How you work fast and multitask efficiently with one 16:9 monitor is beyond me sorry.
@@The2808erik never said I would one have just 1.
@@ABP8214 I rather have an ultra wide monitor for gaming and movies.
Banger of a video fams. the monitor looks awesome, keep up the hard work
Great Video 😀
I tried to like this monitor but the haloing effect kept me from enjoying it. Somehow I ended up with a glossy dough on eBay and loved it more than this one.
You didn't talk about hdr content consuming, but other reviews says its outstanding good as well.
RGB is love RGB is life. Thank you cooler master
Thank you for the review. User in general are not really positive on this monitor. Too many issues and bad QC as far as I have read. Cooler master might need to do some additional work.
Had this monitor for a while but hat tons of issues with it, even after firmware updates and rebooting my pc. Great image quality tho
You still have issues?
@@denisnatera3633 I returned it not long after sorry
You left out the flickering
Didnt got fixed with the latest firmware?
Price is a 🤐 But when we want such quality.....
Only issue I have with it is its price. For that amount, I can get an 55inch+ qled 4k 120hz tv, so why would I end up with this?
Because the Coolermaster has a higher refresh rate of 160hz and will absolutely demolish the QLED in HDR content thanks to it's over 500 dimming zones and HDR 1000 brightness.
@@acurisur
Listen son, better learn your shit first, before speaking in public. Firstly, 4k@ 160fps, would love to see which gpu could handle that. Secondly, modern led tvs have around 1000 local dimming zones and OLED tv's got millions. As far as the nits go, modern tv easily reach 2000 in hdr or 1000 in sdr. So, before acting smart again, better doublecheck your sources.
@@WrongButtonWB You said QLED, not OLED. Did you just move the goalposts?
QLED and OLED are two different technologies. A gpu that can handle 4k at 160fps? Well that would depend on the game wouldn't it? Would a 4090 be able to handle a 10 year old game at 4k 160fps? Absolutely.
Also, there's no such thing as 2000 HDR, that's a marketing term, but I need to "doublecheck my sources" right?
As for "better learn your shit first" and "before acting smart again" , you're America, I take it? That would explain the complete absence of any manners.
@@acurisur OLED or QLED, take your pick, for the price of the monitor mentioned in this vid, you can choose amongst few models.. "There s no such thing as 2000 HDR" is not what I said, I was telling you about the fact that modern tv's can handle 2000 nits at some hdr content, as a peak brightness, while providing 1000 nits at sdr content. Again, being clueless about the stuff you're writing is not my problem nor does it reflects where am I from. Good luck running old ass games @4k 160fps, specially if they were frame locked under 100 (which I bet many were, if we are really talking about "old games"). I'm sure you can cherry pick a single game which can run to "prove your point" that this crap of a display worth almost 1k $, and that's great. If you are happy with it, good on you.
@@WrongButtonWB But you won't get a display like that for the same price as this monitor so your entire argument falls apart.
You might be able to get a "55 inch qled 4k 120 hz" as you originally said, but it won't be a mini LED at this price point, I should know because I've looked.
QLED is crap compared to Mini LED and OLED.
Also no serious PC gamer is going to pick a Tv over a monitor due to the lack of Displayport connections, so you're capped at 120hz which is absolutely shit.
A ultrawide OLED monitor, like you can get from Alienware, is going to be better than of the QLED tvs you keep banging on about.
So, the msi oled is not replacing the 43'?
Thank you for this review. But i think OLED is still the future.
Hot take 😂
Or wait for micro led (still hoping it gets released someday lol), all the benefits of oled without the downsides.
The problem is that monitor technology doesen't advance as fast as tv's do. How long did we wait for the first OLEDs?
It doesnt work for gaming
If you got the tools I will watch the results
Just ordered one. But man why did they have to include the ugliest stand knows to man. Like look at that thing 🤢 thank god for vesa mounts.
Have you experienced any flickering?
Do you need to update the firmware?
If only monitors this price would give more fps xD people would buy, but for 4k for gaming id waste my money on a tv like the lg G3. I settled for qhd 240hz ips still expensive but hey at least it doesnt cost the same as my gpu xD
It's 160hz, 160hz vs 240hz is a tiny difference. If you went from 160hz to 500hz it would be a more significant upgrade.
RGBs on the rear gave you more 1000 fps in game!!😂😂😂.
27" looks tiny compared to the my 49" ultrawide monitor and my 70" 4k TV, I could never go back to 27'.
4k seems a bit over kill too for a 27" monitor.
Cheers.
depends on your setup, the bigger the screen the further away you gotta sit.
@@arcanusluvalus1388 Yep, spot on. Cheers
It depends how close you're sat to the monitor, I used to have a 1440p 27 inch Qdot ISP monitor and the image was worse than my current 27 inch 4k TN monitor because I'm sat really close to it. Pixel density matters if you're sat close to the screen.
at this price point you will get Samsung Neo G8.
Some people work, and use excel we dont want a curved monitor we are not 100% gamers
Agreed with Fonty012! I didn’t get the G8 because of VA, no USB-C and it is curved:)
Sincerely not for that price!
4k 27 inch at desktop distance is dumb, for gaming anyways. Make this panel in 1440p and it would be perfect. 4k is just wasted frames.
There's a 1440p version for cheaper
@@aysgbytsoaytsbysg now you got my attention.
@@The2808erikKTC M27T20 for $480 after coupon, US Amazon right now. Gigabyte is white labeling the KTC M27P20P here.
You're thinking of using it at 100% scaling. The reason you get a 4K 27 inch is to use it at 150% scaling to get a sharper 1440p framing compared to native 1440p. It's the same reason why smartphones have over 1080p resolution and even over 1440p resolution on a screen that's only around 6.5 inch
DO NOTTTTT BUY IT
And why?
3.7 stars on amazon :)
Ain't killing game at all. I guess CM has just started their marketing campaign and that's the reason why every tech reviewer on youtube making videos about this monitor right now with that "iT's ThE bEsT GaMinG mONitoR EVER!!!!!!11!!!!" shit.
Just read the real reviews
There are pretty of reviewers who trashed the monitor when it was first released because of all the issues with the monitor. Even after the firmware updates, some reviewers were still a bit hesitant on referring the monitor. 'Hardware/Monitors Unboxed' and 'Tech Testers' are 2 that come to mind that were extremely critical on the monitor.
I own this monitor and for me it’s an end game monitor for my gaming and learning production based workflows 🥰🤩😱🤯🤤 I’m also using the updated firmware (from earlier this year 2023)). Great to see this monitor getting more coverage 💪💪
Do you experience flickering
I can't wait to get a micoLED monitor. But I can't see myself paying more than $500 for a monitor any time soon. But maybe in a few years micoLED will be cheaper.
I guess you wanted to say micRoLED?
This looks and sound like an awesome and I hope you do more monitor reviews. Btw i'm thinking of getting a monitor called the Samsung G51C 27 inch but i can't find any reviews on it. If anyone knows about this monitor than please comment on this, thanks!
YES...if you review monitors, you should have optical measurement tools ;-)
Thanks for the review !
is anyone can answer this question, if I run 4k+10bit+120hz+HDR, which cable should i use, hdmi 2.1 or dp 1.4 ??
Is it possible to turn off RGB?
Yes
For anyone interested in this monitor, it's utter shit and my advice is to avoid it and any other mini led display using the KTC backlight.
The things have a 6-7 month lifespan then one half of the backlight will die, also the firmware is terrible.
I have a colorimeter and the newest firmware has a bug that when you use HDR the brightness has over 1500 nits... and if you don't turn the brightness on the monitor down while in HDR you push out over 1500 nits and that kills the backlight since it is not meant to reach 1500 nits...
@@letho1157 Strange considering they're using the same mini led backlight in the GP2711 and advertise it as a 1500 nit display.
@@Spr1ggan87 Strange.. do they not test their firmwares before releasing them? my brother has had his for over 1 year now with almost no problems..
@@letho1157 I dunno but half the backlight dying within the first year was a common issue with the GP27Q/U. I RMA'd mine but was told the Q and U are no longer in production and was shipped an 11 instead which is a quite a bit worse than the Q/U. It's advertised as a 1500 nit monitor but it can only hit that in a 25% window, also it has some of the worst black smear and motion clarity you'll see with a modern display.
9 mins 44 seconds,at that price spend a lil more and get what I bought a LG 27" OLED 1440p 240Hz
About the RGB, I love the RGB lighting at the base of monitor's stand in GM27-FQS ARGB. Really want they make it more.
$869 USD?! WHAT A BARGAIN 😒 I need to get these TH-cam video recommendations working better.
The monitor used to be over $1000USD when it was first released.
That price is too close of dell Alienware oled monitor 😂
matte screen coating ruins it for me
Thanks for a really nice review. But please stop saying that monitor brightness can damage your eyes, that is simply not true. Sure, it can be uncomfortable in a dark room, but damage, no. Please provide a source if you think I am wrong :)
+1. a sunny day can have highlights which are 100,000 nits (this can be damaging). a clear day is something like 10K nits...
What's it like when you go from a dark room or you just woke up and you go outside into the midday sun? It kinda hurts right? Just saying.
Dark room bright screen, looking from one to the other, sometimes for hours on end.
Dang, short of OLED this one's got all the bells and whistles. I'd snap it up just for content creation and media consumption.
I'm rocking the Cooler Master GM27-FQS ARGB (the next model down) for the past three months and I'm loving it. My only criticism is the lacklustre HDR implementation. It's HDR400 and 8bit depth.