I have an old 1987 evinrude 88hp 2 stroke that uses a stator to charge starting battery. It is a great engine, basically bullit proof. I would love to use a lithium starter battery to save some weight, but everything I have read says not to. I have read Lithium battery will fry the stator and rectifier, Lithium battery will just shut off when you are running due to the BMS getting a bad reading. I have also read that a stator could only charge Lithium up to about 70% if it works at all. Also read that if you have a Lithium starting battery and something does happen, you cannot use jumper cables. With all of these negatives, I believe I should stick to AGM for starting. Maybe soon they will come out with a Lithium start battery made for my situation? Thanks.
I’m in the same spot as you I have read thou on a couple forums can use some type of regulator and back down the amp and it would work fine but idk for sure
Great review. Very impressive battery and appears to be less expensive than the name brand batteries. I run to Litime battery’s for my TM and very happy with them. If my Ionic 125 hr ever dies I look at this Litime.
Thanks appreciate it. Simple is so much better. My buddy has a new 28 foot Axopar and didn’t even know which battery was his cranking. I have a starter and house battery, a smart shunt and solar, taking out one of the batteries and smart shunt simplifies things.
I got Dakota lithium cranking battery paired with my 90hp SHO yamaha. Everything is fine until the battery gets fully charge... I get a voltage spike when BMS cuts off the current to the battery. My graph shut down because of the voltage spike. Did the same with my merc 25hp. I had to swicth back to my old lead acid battery. 😢
Some boats engines with stators run at too high of voltage and could result in a bms over voltage disconnect I think the lipo battery manufacturers do a cya by only recommending outboards with alternators Thanks for the great review
I priced out this 140Ah dual-purpose as well as 3 100Ah trolling motor blue tooth low temp batteries. LiTime is less than half the price of the other brand I'm considering. The main downfall is that LiTime has a 5 year warranty while the other brand has a 10 year warranty. But with the price difference I can but LiTime batteries 2 times in 10 years and still save money over the other brand.
@@krisramos7453 be sure to look at the warranty policy for both batteries. Many are pro-rated and can not be very helpful toward the end (like a 30% discount on a new battery).
Question, or two. What distinguishes this battery from other lithiums with respect to starting capabilities besides the higher amperage? Does this battery disconnect completely from your engine when it is fully charged? I have a '92 Johnson 150 with a stator system.
Hi, great video! I ordered and just received shipment of this battery based off your video. Definitely excited. But, the manual states “this is not intended to be used to start any devices, please DO Not use it as a starting battery”. Clearly you have been using it. My plan was to used this as a cranking battery for a 2019 Yamaha 90 hp SHO and run electronics. Any reason to not move forward? Thx for your input!
Sweet video. I have the same 115 ProXs. Do you still have a LiFePO4 battery charger to fully charge both batteries? If so which one? Or does the motor Stator keep your cranking battery charged enough? Thanks
LiTime does sell a 24v/12v charger. At the end of the day running the four graphs and a fairly low amount of big motor time, I come home with 80-87% remaining charge. LiTime charger: amzn.to/41T81xa
Hi. I currently have a 100ah Mini Li time. Works great on my trolling motor. Have you tested this long enough to prove no issues from the alternator on your outboard? Is it charging it just fine while the outboard is running? Thanks for making the video.
Hello! Been on several trips and so far it appears to be charging fine. I have not had any issues with charging, the stator or anything else related. At higher rpm I typically see 8-18a of charging.
@@goodmanfishing Wow, that is great news. I have been really looking forward to Li time building this battery. I appreciate the detailed response. Good luck fishing :)
I have 2 100AH lithium battery's in my van and a dc to dc charger between the main battery and lithium. It controls the charging rate 35amps , 40 min on and off as not to burn out the alternator. I'm not a electrical engineer...lol! Does the BMS manage the charge rate...?
@@luckyjim51 the BMS will allow up to 140A of charge current without regard for the alternator. If you want to manage the alternator output, I would maintain the DC-DC charger.
@goodmanfishing so let's say you depleted your battery down to 10%. Then started your motor. It would be pushing 100% until the battery was full. That sounds like a big load for a long time....? My system is built conservatively for that exact reason.
@@luckyjim51 depends on the strategy of the alternator. I'm assuming it will see a higher voltage and reduce the available output dependent on it. I know an older style voltage regulator managed alternator is voltage sensing. I can't speak for the newer ECU controlled versions.
@@davidroyds91 I have the LiTime 2-bank charger, which I am only using one bank on. I just recently removed my electronics battery. There's a $30 off coupon for it, which makes a real nice deal amzn.to/3ZIKAFS
These batteries are full of crap they don’t charge it 100 A they don’t charge it 50 A they will only utilize 20 A I’m putting 125 amp professional charger on this battery and it’s at 50% and it only wants 8 A that means when it’s dead it only wants 20 A. I guess it’s a safety factor. These guys will not give you a battery that charges quickly. It wants seven hours to charge that slow like my lead acid batteries. That’s not why I bought this battery. I want a battery that charges faster ridiculous. It’s false advertising.
Now I never need any lead acid battery, I use Super capacitors and LIFEO4 battery at back boot with 100 watts solar panel. th-cam.com/video/emCpLoKEMXk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vOhBbIEl97nSrpdV This is my video. These Supercaps are from Melbourne Trams, these are used ones but still have millions cycle left. $70 Australian for all super capacitors, they come in pack of 6 in one dimension, but you need to cut a busbar and make two rows of 3 caps, a balancer is needed but optional as voltage never goes above 14.6V. These are Maxwell Super Capacitor 16V 500F. I have now 100AH 12V LIFEO4 battery ($200) in the back boot of the Prado with 100 watts roof mounted solar panel to charge the LIFEO4 battery and the supercaps. I have removed the tiny lead acid battery that you see in the video. Do not leave LIFEO4 batteries in hot under bonnet, these are not tolerant as lead acid.
What do you think about this battery? Will it work for you?
I have an old 1987 evinrude 88hp 2 stroke that uses a stator to charge starting battery. It is a great engine, basically bullit proof. I would love to use a lithium starter battery to save some weight, but everything I have read says not to. I have read Lithium battery will fry the stator and rectifier, Lithium battery will just shut off when you are running due to the BMS getting a bad reading. I have also read that a stator could only charge Lithium up to about 70% if it works at all. Also read that if you have a Lithium starting battery and something does happen, you cannot use jumper cables. With all of these negatives, I believe I should stick to AGM for starting. Maybe soon they will come out with a Lithium start battery made for my situation? Thanks.
I’m in the same spot as you I have read thou on a couple forums can use some type of regulator and back down the amp and it would work fine but idk for sure
Great review. Very impressive battery and appears to be less expensive than the name brand batteries. I run to Litime battery’s for my TM and very happy with them. If my Ionic 125 hr ever dies I look at this Litime.
Thanks appreciate it. Simple is so much better. My buddy has a new 28 foot Axopar and didn’t even know which battery was his cranking. I have a starter and house battery, a smart shunt and solar, taking out one of the batteries and smart shunt simplifies things.
@@fmb-fishingmeansbusiness sounds like a nice setup!
I got Dakota lithium cranking battery paired with my 90hp SHO yamaha. Everything is fine until the battery gets fully charge... I get a voltage spike when BMS cuts off the current to the battery. My graph shut down because of the voltage spike. Did the same with my merc 25hp. I had to swicth back to my old lead acid battery. 😢
Some boats engines with stators run at too high of voltage and could result in a bms over voltage disconnect
I think the lipo battery manufacturers do a cya by only recommending outboards with alternators
Thanks for the great review
So far i have been happy with my Weize, but I would love to upgrade to something larger like this.
Glad to hear that's doing well 👍
I priced out this 140Ah dual-purpose as well as 3 100Ah trolling motor blue tooth low temp batteries. LiTime is less than half the price of the other brand I'm considering. The main downfall is that LiTime has a 5 year warranty while the other brand has a 10 year warranty. But with the price difference I can but LiTime batteries 2 times in 10 years and still save money over the other brand.
@@krisramos7453 be sure to look at the warranty policy for both batteries. Many are pro-rated and can not be very helpful toward the end (like a 30% discount on a new battery).
@@goodmanfishing Thats good to know. Sounds like another good reason to go with the LiTimes
Question, or two. What distinguishes this battery from other lithiums with respect to starting capabilities besides the higher amperage? Does this battery disconnect completely from your engine when it is fully charged? I have a '92 Johnson 150 with a stator system.
Love to get your feedback on Li Time's new 16-volt 70ah battery target for marine electronics. Love your channel, thanks!
I've seen it! They do not have a charger for it yet, I suspect they may send one this way later this quarter to check out.
Hi, great video! I ordered and just received shipment of this battery based off your video. Definitely excited. But, the manual states “this is not intended to be used to start any devices, please DO Not use it as a starting battery”. Clearly you have been using it. My plan was to used this as a cranking battery for a 2019 Yamaha 90 hp SHO and run electronics. Any reason to not move forward? Thx for your input!
1990 Yamaha 150 ProV with stator, would you feel comfortable using this battery with that outboard?
Sweet video. I have the same 115 ProXs.
Do you still have a LiFePO4 battery charger to fully charge both batteries? If so which one?
Or does the motor Stator keep your cranking battery charged enough?
Thanks
I have the same Merc outboard and the same question about on-board battery charger. 24V trolling motor and 12V for starting and electronics.
LiTime does sell a 24v/12v charger.
At the end of the day running the four graphs and a fairly low amount of big motor time, I come home with 80-87% remaining charge.
LiTime charger: amzn.to/41T81xa
Do you have a brushed or brushless trolling motor? Regards.
Mine is brushless 👍
Would you be able to run two of these in parallel to increase the runtime?
Yes you can run up to 4 in parallel
Hi. I currently have a 100ah Mini Li time. Works great on my trolling motor. Have you tested this long enough to prove no issues from the alternator on your outboard? Is it charging it just fine while the outboard is running? Thanks for making the video.
Hello! Been on several trips and so far it appears to be charging fine. I have not had any issues with charging, the stator or anything else related. At higher rpm I typically see 8-18a of charging.
@@goodmanfishing Wow, that is great news. I have been really looking forward to Li time building this battery. I appreciate the detailed response. Good luck fishing :)
So do they make one for a 250hp motor? I have 2 liTime batteries in my boat now
Honestly I don't know how they determined it's rated for "225hp". Would compare the specs to the battery you have now to assess
I have 2 100AH lithium battery's in my van and a dc to dc charger between the main battery and lithium. It controls the charging rate 35amps , 40 min on and off as not to burn out the alternator. I'm not a electrical engineer...lol! Does the BMS manage the charge rate...?
@@luckyjim51 the BMS will allow up to 140A of charge current without regard for the alternator. If you want to manage the alternator output, I would maintain the DC-DC charger.
@goodmanfishing so let's say you depleted your battery down to 10%. Then started your motor. It would be pushing 100% until the battery was full. That sounds like a big load for a long time....? My system is built conservatively for that exact reason.
@@luckyjim51 depends on the strategy of the alternator. I'm assuming it will see a higher voltage and reduce the available output dependent on it.
I know an older style voltage regulator managed alternator is voltage sensing. I can't speak for the newer ECU controlled versions.
What charger are you using
@@davidroyds91 I have the LiTime 2-bank charger, which I am only using one bank on. I just recently removed my electronics battery.
There's a $30 off coupon for it, which makes a real nice deal
amzn.to/3ZIKAFS
Could this be used to start a 3208 375hp diesel?
That's probably a bit outside of its rated cranking amperage. Especially being a diesel.
@@goodmanfishing Thanks!
These batteries are full of crap they don’t charge it 100 A they don’t charge it 50 A they will only utilize 20 A I’m putting 125 amp professional charger on this battery and it’s at 50% and it only wants 8 A that means when it’s dead it only wants 20 A. I guess it’s a safety factor. These guys will not give you a battery that charges quickly. It wants seven hours to charge that slow like my lead acid batteries. That’s not why I bought this battery. I want a battery that charges faster ridiculous. It’s false advertising.
Now I never need any lead acid battery, I use Super capacitors and LIFEO4 battery at back boot with 100 watts solar panel. th-cam.com/video/emCpLoKEMXk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vOhBbIEl97nSrpdV This is my video. These Supercaps are from Melbourne Trams, these are used ones but still have millions cycle left. $70 Australian for all super capacitors, they come in pack of 6 in one dimension, but you need to cut a busbar and make two rows of 3 caps, a balancer is needed but optional as voltage never goes above 14.6V. These are Maxwell Super Capacitor 16V 500F. I have now 100AH 12V LIFEO4 battery ($200) in the back boot of the Prado with 100 watts roof mounted solar panel to charge the LIFEO4 battery and the supercaps. I have removed the tiny lead acid battery that you see in the video. Do not leave LIFEO4 batteries in hot under bonnet, these are not tolerant as lead acid.