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Top-to-bottom changes to mental health system needed, says expert

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2023
  • May is Mental Health Awareness month, and emeritus scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Norm Ornstein, joins Morning Joe to discuss necessary reforms to the mental health system.
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    Top-to-bottom changes to mental health system needed, says expert
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  • @Cheznrice
    @Cheznrice ปีที่แล้ว +32

    People who have never experienced a mental health crisis will never understand how hard it is to get any help. When you do go to an emergency room they call the cops to handcuff and shackles to transport you to a mental health center. They treat you like a criminal not a person seeking help!

    • @turretplug6858
      @turretplug6858 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try growing up…….

    • @mikebrigs1218
      @mikebrigs1218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@turretplug6858 LOL. REALLY!!

    • @harold9394
      @harold9394 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@turretplug6858 You need to see a psychiatrist.

    • @harold9394
      @harold9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikebrigs1218 you need help mentally.

    • @LarrySinclairAndBarack
      @LarrySinclairAndBarack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PS I knew somebody that went in and out of the mental hospital and they hated it because of the way they were treated by staff. Like it or not but most of these nurses the staff members were not born in the United States and they have a different mentality and a good portion of them seem antagonistic

  • @ckcox
    @ckcox ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm a mental health therapist and trust me, the need is dire. I have only so many hours in my week to see people. I could see more, but that would compromise my mental health and the quality that I provide to my clients/patients. Don't get me started on compensation. We in the social work field are required to work miracles on little pay. A major overhaul is needed.

  • @robinriebsomer4607
    @robinriebsomer4607 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a retired psych nurse and substance use counselor. Insurance companies do not provide adequate coverage for these disorders. They force addicts out of inpatient detox too soon and now out of day partial too soon. They have no coverage for residential treatment. A month of residential treatment costs $10,000 or more. Many addicts are broke because of their substance use. Because mental health and addiction services were not "lucrative" Ascension health in Indianapolis cut 90% of their outpatient services and their residential program. My job was cut. This is why there are not enough beds and not enough care providers. Residential treatment is far less expensive than prison. So, right, we don't need universal health care.

  • @jl8942
    @jl8942 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Replace the For-Profit Medical Industrial Complex with a Public Universal Healthcare System.

    • @saraleigh5336
      @saraleigh5336 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, the same state stripping the rights of women to control their bodies? No thanks.

  • @davevanfunk8917
    @davevanfunk8917 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We need to allocate money for mental health care. The money is there, we just need to wait for it to trickle down (thanks RWR).

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 ปีที่แล้ว

      You already get welfare

    • @davevanfunk8917
      @davevanfunk8917 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scabcrawler632 The gipper tried to tank that, while his tax break funneled money up to the elite. Besides mental health care is expensive. People on welfare could never afford counseling.

  • @whitedove2352
    @whitedove2352 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a therapist in private practice and my case load is 25 people. I haven't had any openings in three years. People contact me weekly to see me and I have to turn them down. I hear from patients all the time that they can't find a therapist. And when I need to refer a patient for medication management, it takes 2-3 months for them to see a prescriber. We need more therapists! We need more psychiatrists! More training, funding. And more oversight on agencies to keep them accountable for the level of care they're providing.

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many liberals with pink and blue hair?

    • @saraleigh5336
      @saraleigh5336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insurance coverage has also gotten worse and worse. So much of the conversation is about seeking help, not about the logistics of getting it. This was refreshing to hear.

  • @marilyntaylor223
    @marilyntaylor223 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A mental health course for each grade should be set up and in place so that children receive some sources of what to do, where to go, when and who to report incidents, etc., instead of being left entirely on their own on how to deal with abuse. Perhaps they should receive a booklet, suitable for their age, at their first day of school, on resources to contact should they need help.

    • @nikiwaverider6640
      @nikiwaverider6640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea!

    • @katherinejones8022
      @katherinejones8022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Psyche must be incorporated into health classes, age appropriate of course. We are so deprived routinely of pertinent knowledge that we are entitled to know of our very bodies.

    • @nikiwaverider6640
      @nikiwaverider6640 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@katherinejones8022 Absolutely, the health of our brains and our mental well-being is just as important as our physical health.

  • @SP-fl9nb
    @SP-fl9nb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our whole health care system from top to bottom is imbarrasing. It's a joke

  • @Dot-Dot-Dash
    @Dot-Dot-Dash ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Before I retired from being a Registered Nurse, I called for a job at a mental hospital. They said yes they needed my help but that they were forbidden to hire more nurses due to cut backs. Republicans cut funds!

  • @Ron-rk6iz
    @Ron-rk6iz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great subject guys! Thanks.
    Step away from the surface in order to go deeper, the root, that is the only solution.
    It's not a quick fix at all, try to change your entire society for your children and grandchildren's good sake.

  • @davidgrochmal6023
    @davidgrochmal6023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All this bull sh____ t about metal Heath they will do absolutely nothing to fix the problem people don't even have Heath insurance I don't buy anything they say !!!!

  • @danriley5848
    @danriley5848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More availability to for mental illness care is long overdue in this country it's ridiculous and sickening.

  • @doctorstreamspunk9996
    @doctorstreamspunk9996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we start with mental health tests for our government representatives?

  • @nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368
    @nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You cannot fix mental health tomorrow, but you can get rid of guns immediately.

  • @liseth2323
    @liseth2323 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We need universal healthcare.

    • @JoSeF...
      @JoSeF... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would advocate catastrophic universal Care

    • @DeltaTango2024
      @DeltaTango2024 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd rather not wait 6 months to see a doctor

    • @sircasm6578
      @sircasm6578 ปีที่แล้ว

      You clearly have no idea what you're talking about 😅

    • @DebORahDramatica
      @DebORahDramatica ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We're the only advanced country in the world who doesn't have universal Healthcare and we pay far more than all other countries and we are not even top 30 in the world for healthcare

    • @mikebrigs1218
      @mikebrigs1218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HOW ABOUT NO!! MOVE TO CANADA!!

  • @susanavilez9302
    @susanavilez9302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Gov. Abbott needs serious mental illness evaluation, he is spinal cord injured which is extremely significant and impacts him, his family and everybody around him and his decision making based in his anger, callousness, and denial of what's in front of him.

  • @Alan-sb3hk
    @Alan-sb3hk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This should at least start in high school, dont just kick them out of school, work with them ,this has to start when they are young.

  • @BIGPAPA660
    @BIGPAPA660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The unfortunate guy in New York was killed because he was throwing trash and acting unstable. 1 out of 5 homeless people suffer from mental illness.

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 out of 5 democrats suffer from mental illness

  • @lindajamroz4807
    @lindajamroz4807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😢Emillio is right..this country hasn't finished grieving. Perhaps we, as a nation, are still working our way thru all the stages of grief. We lost sooo very many loved ones in the past 3 years.

  • @Jstrong1966
    @Jstrong1966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im sorry but, im not a child anymore, i just turned 57. I wouldn't relive my childhood no matter what could be offered. Instead, i wound up recreating the very same treatment by nearly everyone in my world. I married my dad and mom, i was so needy i drove people away or got taken advantage of. I was the scape goat and my mom called people, including dictors and told them not to help me, that they couldn't believe a word i said. I just want to hurt people.
    As a 7 year old i wanted to hurt them???
    I can't remember why im telling you this.
    Wait, it's because, "You can not help a child until the adult is healthy enough for their child. "

  • @robroberts7093
    @robroberts7093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it bother anyone that these particular leaders will determine what sanity is?

  • @eternalskeptic
    @eternalskeptic ปีที่แล้ว

    At the very least, those seeking mental health should be required to complete a Gun Safety course before getting treatment...

  • @ImMe-sp9fl
    @ImMe-sp9fl ปีที่แล้ว

    You know where help for people with mental health problems should start,our government, all politicians. Plus let's not forget corporate America.

  • @samiaint8043
    @samiaint8043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    American Enterprise Institute is a Republican think tank which focuses on words for messaging. Mental health is a problem but is also the message Republicans want to promote for the answer to the gun problem in the US.

    • @DeltaTango2024
      @DeltaTango2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would the answer be? Forcibly take away people's guns?

    • @brianzembruski5485
      @brianzembruski5485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

    • @markmierzejewski9534
      @markmierzejewski9534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If its a mental health issue and people choose firearms to commit crimes of this nature. It would make sense to have universal mental health screening. Everyone who buys a gun legally already starts off with the intent of being a " good guy " until they aren't. How are we suppose to know who is who? What business is it for an 18 year old buying a full battle rattle.. Common sense gun laws. Guns are not toys, Guns are not tools. Firearms have a singular purpose. Tools serve multiple only tools think firearms are tools.

  • @dontKNOW3741
    @dontKNOW3741 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why does Joe have any guests on? He seems to be an absolute expert in everything why doesn't he just interview himself?

    • @harold9394
      @harold9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sara Mill bot

    • @harold9394
      @harold9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sara Mill fake white woman.

  • @axonjogi
    @axonjogi ปีที่แล้ว

    I can not tell you how very much I agree with no children should be left alone to deal with the current US values and goals

  • @afterlifewelcomesyoutofore2992
    @afterlifewelcomesyoutofore2992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who can tried their shoelaces does not have problems, those that have a hard time usually run for public office.
    One of the largest group of professionals that take their own life are the doctors that treat mental challege people.
    Go figure.

  • @aurora_occidentalis2248
    @aurora_occidentalis2248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is self-medicating with ice cream mental health care?
    Asking for an elderly Democrat career politician.

  • @katherinejones8022
    @katherinejones8022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    President Biden must create a cabinet position for a mental health or brain disease czar. Dr. Mary Trump has some great ideas. From the mass psychosis of the country & the ravages of covid, this is a prudent & necessary decision.

  • @jamesthomas9471
    @jamesthomas9471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shooters do not walk into mental health clinics. And if they did, services are scarce, almost absent.

  • @NNShephard
    @NNShephard ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All those jabs trigger people to off everyone

    • @romulus_
      @romulus_ ปีที่แล้ว

      is that your expert medical opinion or something a kook would say?

    • @brianzembruski5485
      @brianzembruski5485 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, they don't

    • @Brandonsniffskids
      @Brandonsniffskids ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pureblood and proud here

    • @mikebrigs1218
      @mikebrigs1218 ปีที่แล้ว

      IF THEY LIVE THAT LONG.

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Brian Zembruski if you get 12 you get a free subway sandwich 😂

  • @lemmedie98
    @lemmedie98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mental health system did nothing for me but give me debt and meds, actually it made my crisis worse, oh and now I can't own firearms 😊 America baby

  • @Ron-rk6iz
    @Ron-rk6iz ปีที่แล้ว

    Again, a refreshing interview, about mental health and the connecting ( lacking ) treatments.
    More medicine is not the solution, and neither is the handout of Insulin for that matter.
    Those measures are only feeding the pockets of the Pharmaceutical Industries while leaving the cause untreated so to say.
    The question should be, in the first place: Why are there so many mentally ill folks in the USA ?
    Compare the Statistics with for example Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Israel, and the Netherlands
    the five happiest countries in the World. ( the USA is ranked number 15 )
    This only proves that military power and an extreme form of capitalism do not mean well-being for the masses in society. There is nothing wrong with Money, on the contrary, but there is "something wrong" in the way we use it, the Food Industry is a very harmful consequence of the system, just one example.
    Sugar is addictive, and the Industry knows that they use the same criminal practices as the cigarette industry did in the past, killing millions of people over the years. Ironically everybody is upset about the shootings but nobody has the guts to question the practices of the Food industries.
    Dr. Lustig would be your great next guest if it is about the root cause of mental and physical illnesses and the effects of sugar on the addicted population of this country.

  • @Myers70
    @Myers70 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top to bottom changes are needed in the BRANDON administration

  • @user-xx7os7lc5b
    @user-xx7os7lc5b วันที่ผ่านมา

    BUILDING MORE HOMES N HELPING PEOPLE FEEL SECURE N SAFE.

  • @marklasky3555
    @marklasky3555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mandatory for all MSNBC hosts

  • @kateuhler7803
    @kateuhler7803 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great segment👏👏👏👏👏

  • @KT-gi9do
    @KT-gi9do หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you considered that people who don't have any insight into their mental illness is because they don't have any? Perhaps your prejudices, stigmatisation, slender and libel is what causes the problem?

  • @redsable6119
    @redsable6119 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure does, shame about the hundreds/thousands that will be slaughtered in the mean time.

  • @markcampbell7577
    @markcampbell7577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wage act enforced correctly locally by police and welfare departments rightfully expect social security minimum entitlement and minimum wage is a living local commute. This minimum standard of living and allowing transition to working.

  • @peterbovold2571
    @peterbovold2571 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's for starters.

  • @mariaalejandraacero-escude4640
    @mariaalejandraacero-escude4640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those ways exist❤🎉

  • @NDARYBC
    @NDARYBC ปีที่แล้ว

    We hava a mental health crisis and it is coming from the republicans side. They need to seek Dr Fauci help in maintaining their polite-ness and manner's.

  • @g11rfe87
    @g11rfe87 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does this mean we will finally admit that they/them people with severe body dysmorphia and multiple personality disorder are also mentally ill?

    • @mikebrigs1218
      @mikebrigs1218 ปีที่แล้ว

      MOST PEOPLE WHO NEED PRONOUNS TO DESCRIBE THEM SELVES HAVE MENTAL DISORDER.

    • @Cheznrice
      @Cheznrice ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's always been considered a mental illness. It's written in the DSM. So what are you talking about? Education is key!

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Jenny from tha block so why do democrats try to normalize it?

    • @DaleHartley
      @DaleHartley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cheznrice no, he is trying to say gender fluid or trans people are mentally ill. They are not. As to the two actual conditions s/he lists being in the DSM...not denying that, BUT s/he said "they/them" people

    • @g11rfe87
      @g11rfe87 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cheznrice i am talking about the "they/them" people as i stated in my comment, but reading is hard. education is key

  • @richhoyle1254
    @richhoyle1254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy lady had diff take in your previous vid. You not collaborate as “journalists”

  • @MrJimbissle
    @MrJimbissle ปีที่แล้ว

    Fear. People are more afraid of 'Mental' illness than of Death. Its the most personal sort of illness. It gets inside of who the person is and the universe they live in.
    If its not you, that could mean Anything !
    If its a stranger near you . . . All defenses go up.
    So we dont want to look.

    • @mikebrigs1218
      @mikebrigs1218 ปีที่แล้ว

      150K ARE OUTSIDE IN MEXICO WAITING FOR TITLE 42 TO END. NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS!!!!

    • @harold9394
      @harold9394 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikebrigs1218 you don’t even have the ability to stay on topic.

    • @LarrySinclairAndBarack
      @LarrySinclairAndBarack ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine opening your borders and not knowing who's coming into your country you can have a violent third world and fifth world country cleaning out the prison's their mental institutions sending all their AIDS patients to the United States. And the public has to deal with it. Joe Biden the Democratic party and anybody who supports the left is a traitor to the United States

  • @scillyautomatic
    @scillyautomatic ปีที่แล้ว

    Biden's America! Vivek 2024

  • @sircasm6578
    @sircasm6578 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well for starters, we can establish the fact that hurt feelings do not equate to a mental health crisis 🙄

  • @StephonMulberry-ur6vz
    @StephonMulberry-ur6vz ปีที่แล้ว

    Americans used to be able to order fully automatic machine guns from the sears catalog, and have it delivered to their door. Yet somehow these mass events never happened… this is a modern issue. Wonder what is causing it?

  • @jaygibson5057
    @jaygibson5057 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carry your gun

  • @Brandonsniffskids
    @Brandonsniffskids ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was in those jabs?🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @mamatrain100
    @mamatrain100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only if someone can get rich. That's the only way mental health will get the attention it needs.

    • @t.r.campbell6585
      @t.r.campbell6585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We had this years ago. We had mental health hospitals where the unfortunate individuals could receive treatment, and could be confined because they were psychotic, schizophrenic and dangerous to the general population. We had this before, but then we had the stupid idea of returning the mentally ill to the community and keeping them drugged up. That idea is a failure.

    • @mamatrain100
      @mamatrain100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t.r.campbell6585 yep, ronnie ray gun didnt want to pay for it anymore.

  • @kfkgjgkvkgkggknfnfndb2039
    @kfkgjgkvkgkggknfnfndb2039 ปีที่แล้ว

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