People who complain about RX6400 clearly don't know what its target audience is. Sure the price could be better I dont deny that, but this card is targeted to people who have crappy prebuilt PCs from Dell, Lenovo or HP. Single slot version of this card is impressive, it doesnt require any extra power cables and its the best card you can fit into a Small Form Factor prebuild. Try comparing this to the most common GPUs you will find in prebuilds like Intels IGPU or if youre lucky a GT1030 at best or GT710, its a world of difference. For PCIE 3.0 performance difference, as long as your VRAM usage doesnt exceed 4GB you will not have problems running it on PCI 3.0 slot. Not to mention you can find used prebuild PCs with i7 CPUS for about the price of this card, so for less than $400 you can get yourself a nice budget gaming PC.
Exactly, its not like we're getting any new low profiles from nvidia... You can get some pretty good office desktops for a very low price slap that with $160 6400 and you can actually play games on it for sub $400
I almost got my hands on a Dell XPS mid tower with an i7 8700 & 8GB RAM from OfferUp for $60 but I reacted too slow. That right there would have been the deal of the year for me. I definitely would've threw in an RX 6400 in it.
@@Prashant-ni4vm haven’t had a chance to purchase it yet. (I’m broke AF 😂) but it’s newer tech so I hope it’s better. I need low profile and this is the only card I’ve found.
Speed and power consumption from the RX 6400 is great. For med-high settings at 1080p60 with FSR Quality the GPU is fine. The biggest issue is that there is no video encoding chip.
@@mehtWPD The EU version is not able to recode video. So no video editor will work. Also the RX 6400 costs 180€ in Germany but the RX 6600 is 2-3 times faster and costs about 280€.
People talking about the price and performance being the same after 3 years but nobody mentioned the Rx 6400 using significantly less power, up to 50% in some cases
The RX6400 is highly dependent on PCIe bandwidth. Meaning that most likely the perfomance using the 6400 in a low profile system that isn't AM4 with a PCIe Gen 4 enabled motherboard or Intel 11th+ gen is going to be significantly worse than what is displayed here. The FPS per watt is still pretty insane though.
If i have something like an i5 mid gen like 5tg or 6th or some number like that,should I go for rx6400 or rx550,I'm asking you cuz you seem like you know what you're talkin about
@@aggressivenade I'd still pick this over an RX 550. The performance per watt is so high, it actually makes it the most powerful single slot card in the world for gaming. So if you're stuck with an extremely space-limited low profile prebuilt and you need a GPU, go for the 6400 (or the GTX1650 GDDR6 if you have space for two LP slots). If you can comfortably fit a normal size 2-slot card in it though, just buy an RTX 3060 or RX6600 brand new.
@@ItsNotFrey where I'm from,rx6400 and rx580 are the 3xact same price,around 130 USD to be specific btw if you have a gpu in mind that can run apex at 60 fps low to mid settings and costs only 100 USD pls let me know
You should then know that it's only due to chip shortage/availability and there's no gain in anything other than the gddr6 version is running a little hotter
@@toromaru0912 well learned...generally not bad, but that's not the case here! Still the only reason that the 1650got a gddr6 version IS that gddr5 ran out of production. The gddr 6 one has less basic mhz and less boost while being a little more power efficient. Most games get +2fps average, why make a 1650 better than it should be?! If you're interested th-cam.com/video/mvxEgUJbiYw/w-d-xo.html
@@GuruZ84Nvidia underclocked the gddr6 version so it matches the gddr5 version performance but it if you overclock it you will will get 1650 super performance
@@toromaru0912 dude were running in circles here. Guess what happens if I buy a 1660...and when I overclock that one. I know that gddr6 gives you more, why bother developing something lower performing. Regarding the given specs...it'll do about the same
It's about the same as a stock GTX 1650 Mobile (granted there isn't a CPU bottleneck), except you can overclock the GTX 1650 Mobile and not the RX 6400.
@@rinsenpai135 Yes, you can overclock it to consume more power. Where is the gain? the point here is how impressive is that with this card you can barely play most of the games at very decent framerates with a power consumption of 50w. As I've said several times, people who buy GPU's that consume +200W are just dumb. And nowadays it comes together with the will of playing at 4K, so it's double dumb. Playing at 1080p have all the advantages. Playing at 4K have just one: the resolution.
@@esteveguineueta2328 Dude. The mobile 1650 DOESN'T eat more than 50w, even when OC'd. And its a 3 year old gpu. On 12nm tsmc. Yeah, so tell me again how impressive this turd is considering its worse overall than a 3 year old 1650.
So impressed by the efficiency. I'm looking forward to a similar low profile single slot RDNA3 GPU next year, with the media encoders on board this time...
@@FADHsquared The hell you're talking about, the 6400 is way more efficient than a 1650, same for the mobile variants. If even the numbers aren't enough to convince you, you're biased.
@@trixniisama I stand corrected, TPU numbers indeed show the 6400 being more efficient than the 1650. That said, my initial "bias" isn't without reason. We shouldn't be applauding marginal performance improvements (plus feature cutdowns) over the last viable Low Profile card which is the 1650, released THREE YEARS AGO, at a lower price. Maybe it takes a low profile card released in 2025 which is only 5-10% faster than the RX 6400 and at the same price or higher for people to realize this stagnation.
If the 6400 is the successor of the 550, then it is an incredible improvement, considering its low consumption and low profile, it is NOT the successor of the 570, so do not say that it is wrong that it performs like the 1650, the 550 is the equivalent to the gt 1030, so for me it's a noticeable improvement
The RX 6500XT is the successor to the RX550, the RX 6400 is the successor to the RX 530. The RX 6500XT has a die size of 107mm^2, the RX 550 has a die size of 103mm^2, the rx 6400 and rx 530 are cut versions of their respective GPUs/Chips. The RX 580 is 232mm^2 die size, the rx 6600 XT is 237mm^2 die size, so the RX 6600XT is the successor to the RX 580, the RX 6600 non-XT is the successor to the RX 570. The main problem is that GDDR6 is 15$ per GB VRAM at 16bps, the fastest GDD5 was 5.5$ per GB in 2017-2018. Then the PCB component prices have increased about 1.4-1.7x times(depending on which components). The shipping prices in bulk has increased 2-3x times And the coolers are more expensive as well. And there is inflation overall(which is included above in the price increase). 160$ for a GPU in 2022 is like 280$ in 2017.
@@Fubukic9 The market is still overpriced, although advertisements say otherwise, arguing that the situation is already under control, we are still far from MSRP prices. In addition to the fact that there is a big problem on a global scale due to inflation and the falls of wall street and other sectors. I have no doubt that when everything is normalized there, the prices will be what they should be
@@rattlehead999 not really. Who cares about die size. If it was cake size I could understand it. It comes down to how much performance for how much money. According to amd series number it would be compared to a Rx530 but the sales price is more in a line with the rx560-570 and even a rx580 when it was cheapest. But it's not pre-pandemic time so the prices are what they are. But it is not a low budget card as the number suggests.
Yeah.. Finally AMD is beating gtx 1650 ,after the power hungry of rx5500. Now RX 6400 was released very late due to the outdated gtx1650. However, as the gpu price correction, the RX 6400 was the perfect power efficient price reasonable than gtx 1650 and 1050 ti
Based on TPU 6500xt pcie scaling benchmark, it is safe to say that PCIE 3.0 doesn't decrease the performance of this gpu because it is so crappy that a PCIE 3.0x4 is sufficient. What you're seeing here is a gpu with 14% less ALUs and 15-20% higher clockspeed. Turing is slightly faster than RDNA 1/2 at the same clockspeed.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Yup, you are right. I refer to tpu once again. In the conclusion, it is stated that performance drop is over 10%. Guess low end gpus today still need quite a few PCIE lanes, huh? Btw, I read somewhere that PCIE 3.0 + 4gb vram is the issue. If there is PCIE 3.0 + 8gb vram or viceversa, this thing should perform as expected.
@@tanbenard9955 about 8 percent on average but some games were up to 80 percent worse. Some games really chew bandwidth like Doom Eternal and Farcry 6 but most do not.
What Is the encoder use? I want to Buy these amd card Buy every one Is complaining about It, but i have no idea what does these encoders have to to with gaming, can you explain?
I'm running one now paired with a Ryzen 5 5600g APU 3.90 GHz, overclocked to 4.6Ghz and I can run most new games frame locked at 60fps 1080p. I run CODM at 120fps on high settings and can run games like Garry's mod and halflife in 4k at 270fps. It's a very capable little card when correctly paired.
@@nicknoh yes. The board has an HDMI out that runs off of the integrated apu graphics. I use amd adrenaline to set both up separately, and run a separate monitor for OSB, FB and Discord.
Take into account the performance drop with RX 6400 in PCIE 3.0 (which majority of this market have) then AMD clearly loses against pretty old cards......
Doesn't make a difference. 6500xt on pcie 3.0 is still faster than oc 1650. 6400 is essentially the same chip with 25% less cus and 10% less bandwidth. PCIE 3.0x16 was good enough for a 2080 ti. A 6400 with 1/5th of a 2080 ti raw tflops should have no problem with pcie 3.0x4.
@@tanbenard9955 The issue is with the architecture of the card. The RX 6400 is severely ham strung by PCIE 3.0 and 2.0 and performs worse than a standard clock GDDR5 1650 on these PCIE versions.
@@tanbenard9955 there is still performance drop with PCIE 3 on RX6400. and sometimes it makes the card drop below 60FPS even on lower graphic preset vs PCIE4. you can't say that as "no problem".
some games it is,its usually about a 20% performance decrease on average but this card still beats a gtx 1050ti by about 30 fps in games on pci-e 3.0 so to some people its what they might want or need,locally its about 170 here but should be about a 100 dollar card. even on pci-e 3.0 the actual performance decrease is a lot less than I thought.the only game it really makes a huge poerformane hit is on doom eternal by about half the fps but it does this with other cards.the 5500xt has about a 5fps difference on its 8x bus pci-e 3 vs 4 in like 30 games but on doom eternal it takes a huge performace loss and thats like the only game that does this
@@kyles8524 those that already have 1050Ti if they skip 1650 then they most likely going to skip this one as well. And 1650 have the same MSRP as RX6400 when the card being launch in 2019.
Is he testing the low profile version for both? I'm planning to buy a used Lenovo M70s SFF cuz i can't buy a new pc. I just wanna know cuz i think both low profile version doesn't need external power, so they would be perfect...
I wonder whether it's possible to unlock RX6400 from 768sp to 1024sp if it uses the same core with RX6500XT. But it seems not possible since it even cannot be overclocked at this moment.
sorry my english, how is it possible that all models up to the current 1650 have 1665MHz of maximum bosster and yours is running at 1900 MHz if you overclocked it should be described in the video description.
Loosing with RX 6400! 😯 What a shame GTX 1650, what a shame... 🤦♂ Are You GTX? Rather GT!! Time to close 16XX series, time to RTX 4040 with price of 1050!
They want to sell the idea that 150€ is low end and you don't deserve good GPUs at that price point. We got RX570 4GB for that price at least 2 years ago and had similar performance. The RX6400 should be around 100€ considering the evolution in hardware, even so it is actually worst than RX570 in performance and it lacks encoding. And if you only have PCIe 3.0 you will have performance closer to 1050ti instead. Only good thing about it is the low wattage. If I was to buy a GPU right now I would buy a cheap used one like GTX950 and wait for prices to go down.
The 6400 sips power. I have the low profile version headed my way. Going to make my little HP z240 SFF a light gaming rig! Thanks for the comparison video. 👍👍
@testing games, if possible compare 6400 to previous high end? 680/780/ 7970/290? i've been considering the potential for this card to replace older high end cards as secondary/backup gpus
AMD had one decent modern era with the 470/570 or 570/580 on the budget end otherwise no one cares Nvidia at every turn especially in the RT era. What's funny is you can buy a 2nd hand 570 from a high street store for half the price of this joke of a gpu that is slower 🤣🤦. AMD suddenly thinking they are good enough to charge a lot for their stuff 😂🤣.
Its a low profile card like GT 730,730 or 740 and rx 500 and 400 series were mid to high end so wtf are u blabbering about? Some office pcs dont have good psus so maybe this and cards like GT 1030 could be useful
@@beataoo WTF, a dirt cheap pc costs nothing why would ypu buy some shitty office pc with a small case. Even poor people can buy something better than one of those.
Let's not forget you have to pay the same price for the same performance as 2 years ago, and that's if you can get these GPUs at MSRP. Also the RX6400 is still a sh!tty upgrade for older rigs because of its 64-bit memory interface, that serves a dual purpose by also forcing us to upgrade to PCIE 4.0.
bought mine (Rx 6400) for $165 a few days ago, due to lack of GTX1650 stocks and surplus of GTX1660,1080,1060. am i happy of the purchase? yes i'm fine with it for a cheap gaming/working pc it's fine as is. but if you have the budget you might as well go for a RTX series instead.
i still say gtx 1650 is winner, running at same performance (sometimes little bit higher) with pcie 3 is a huge different for me, now what if gtx 1650 have pcie 4 (not the super one) ...
Just get a PS5 or Series X, this doesn't even come close to what they can do for the price point! I have gaming PC, but never game on it, to many shtty ports!!
You can oc the 1650 a Lil bit and get the same performance as the 6400 (and more) with less temps. My verdict is that if these both are on a laptop, get the 6400, for the pc get the 1650 and oc a little bit
I'm seeing the 6500xt for almost the same price as 6400 at my local. But I wonder if it consumes more power, is it worth picking the rx 6500 xt over the 6400 ? Is there much difference? Thanks. Also the gtx 1650 is way more expensive than both in my country. weird.
@@arx117 thanks guys for the info! Forgot I wrote this comment 😂 same here, I bought an asrock 6600xt, have it for a year now, played so many games with it, now I spent most of my time with the Xbox series X. Thank you guys for taking time to reply me.
Bruh someone knows wich is the difference between pci 3.0 and 4.0, because i have an hp 8300sff and i dont know if the difference will be as small as in this video, because i think the motherboard of my pc has pci3.0 because is old
The people ''impressed'' by its efficiency, you do realize the gtx 1650 gddr6 on laptops eats 50w and performs similar to this. And its on a much worse node.
@Sam Ross No, its about as fast as the 1050. So, quite a bit slower than a gtx 1650 and rx6400. And the gtx 1050 eats 50w while being on a ancient 16nm node and being 5+ years old. Still impressive from the 680m.
@Sam Ross I was speaking of a heavily gimped mobile 1050. As in it was paired with 2400mhz ddr4 ram, i5 7300hq and bottlenecked by optimus. Remove all that and it'll edge out the 680m again. OC'd, the 1050 mobile gains 15% more performance. And its still a 50w card.
Pour un PC au top côté efficience énergétique et du jeu en médium, la 6400 est tout indiquée. Pour aller chercher du détails plus hauts, la 6500xt est vraiment top. Quoi qu'il en soit cette 1650 est aussi pertinente que la 1630, c'est à dire au ras des pâquerettes.
what matters its a good CPU/APU with very good amount of memory like 2x16DDR4/DDR5. Video cards now are much less important because the good APU 3200G/4650G/5600/5700G
this card should be 100 bucks or less tbh, I hate GPU prices now tbh, and how expensive things are because the 5500 is a $150 card and then the 6600 should be around the 220 and so on, its just prices are insane and it sucks, 6600xt is a great value for money card right now tbh but if the market was what it used to be, the price would be 100% different for sure
tbh, if you wish to save electric bills and dont mind if you have PCI-E 3.0 motherboard, then RX 6400 is for you, because both have same price. Except Power Usage is quite higher for GTX 1650. Even better if you have PCI-E 4.0 motherboard.
6400 is a better option nowaday sbecause for some god forsaken reason the 1650 still sells for close to 200-250 in some cases, especially the low profile model. every model of the 6400 i've seen sells for 140 at max, with the exact same performance as the 1650 with less power consumption
Кто же на таких видеокартах ультра настройки ставит? Хоть бы с разными настройками протестировали, 30 кадров в Horizon ZD? 😥😢😭 И всё-таки надо было достать 1650 с DDR6...
@@aksyxd5583 MSRP of 1050 : 119$ MSRP of 1060 3GB : 180$ MSRP of 1060 6GB : 220$ 😂😂😂😂😂 Where are your 250$ , if the 1650 can be buyed now at 219$??? 😂 And 6400 at 190$ 😂😂😂
@@daemonx867 I have a 1050ti and and just got an rx 6400 as an upgrade and I assure you in my tests that your comment is false as my rx 6400 beats out my 1050 ti.
@@dapplebaumer What a liar, infact 6400 requires PCIE 4.0 to run at this performance otherwise becomes worst card in PCIE 3.0...... so you saying you have PCIE 4.0 motherboard but can't afford better card? 🤣🤣🤣
@@miloslimenguyen2572 Low profile form factor......single slot.....its the most powerful in that catagory......at the end of the day, it has its purpose.
У меня GTX1650 работает на частоте 1485mgz и выше поднять не могу. Пробовал использовать msi afterburner, включал разблокировку частоты и напряжения не помогает. RX6400 тоже есть и она работает на частоте 2360mgz
Pretty similar performance but the 6400 is way more power efficient. Its sad not too long ago there were so many cheap options for a gpu. I picked up a Msi gaming x rx 580 for $110 used and a 1060 6gb of the same card for $125. I just wanna go back to a time when top tier cards are $700ish. The way gpu’s are going in the next 5 years a gpu with be 4 slots and draw 1500watts and cost way too much. I might be one of those helping because a bought a 3080ti which is really stupid for the money. I think 70 class cards are the best for price/performance or a 6800 if your amd but those 6800 are hard to find i see plenty of 6900xt’s and less 6800xt’s. The new 6950xt is nice when compared to the stupidly priced 3090ti. And if I have to be honest I rarely use ray tracing and i use dlss some on pure rasterization performance amd doing great and their more efficient. I kinda wish in would’ve waited and got a 6950xt over my 3080ti. I payed $1300 for my ftw3 model so I didn’t pay over for it. I think it was on sale and under msrp.
@@aninditabasak7694 well ...i might be wrong but thats still close. Hopefully the next gen wouldn't continue with the same trend of ridiculous power consumption figures. But by the looks of it it seems unlikely
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Microsoft Flight Simulator - 1:06
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Hitman 3 - 3:46
Dying Light 2 - 4:49
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:34
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Basically I personally prefer the Intel Iris Dg1-4g it performs approximately like the 2 at a ridiculous cost
Gtx 1650 ddr6??
I think no
Is ddr5
Hey are you sure about the price
People who complain about RX6400 clearly don't know what its target audience is. Sure the price could be better I dont deny that, but this card is targeted to people who have crappy prebuilt PCs from Dell, Lenovo or HP. Single slot version of this card is impressive, it doesnt require any extra power cables and its the best card you can fit into a Small Form Factor prebuild. Try comparing this to the most common GPUs you will find in prebuilds like Intels IGPU or if youre lucky a GT1030 at best or GT710, its a world of difference. For PCIE 3.0 performance difference, as long as your VRAM usage doesnt exceed 4GB you will not have problems running it on PCI 3.0 slot. Not to mention you can find used prebuild PCs with i7 CPUS for about the price of this card, so for less than $400 you can get yourself a nice budget gaming PC.
Exactly, its not like we're getting any new low profiles from nvidia... You can get some pretty good office desktops for a very low price slap that with $160 6400 and you can actually play games on it for sub $400
I almost got my hands on a Dell XPS mid tower with an i7 8700 & 8GB RAM from OfferUp for $60 but I reacted too slow. That right there would have been the deal of the year for me. I definitely would've threw in an RX 6400 in it.
every APU is faster, so the target is bullshit at all.
@@PrefoX Oh yeah I bet those office pc's with intel hd620 are smashing this card in gaming. Clown...
@@cykacircus903 well we did get a new one....just we wish we hadn't.
(Im talking about the gt 1630)
A $150 card on 2022 giving the same performance as a $150 card from 2019.
We're making progress for sure.
EDIT: $150 MSRP
In thailand gtx1650 $220 vs rx6400 $145 (to day) what will you buy????
or from 2016, the 1060
Have you seen GTX 1650 already for $150?
Take into account PCIE 3.0 performance drop which majority of entry level market have and it loses 🤣
Its barely 100 dollars
I've been waiting for a single slot, low profile 1650 but it never came. RX 6400 is a perfect fit for a small gaming machine.
my thoughts exactly... My GTX 1050Ti is low profile for my HTPC, and it's dieing. I found a 6400 on amazon for $160.
@@adonian is rx 6400 better than GTX 1050 ti ?
@@Prashant-ni4vm haven’t had a chance to purchase it yet. (I’m broke AF 😂) but it’s newer tech so I hope it’s better. I need low profile and this is the only card I’ve found.
@@adonian okay 😬😅
@@Prashant-ni4vm yes much better
Speed and power consumption from the RX 6400 is great. For med-high settings at 1080p60 with FSR Quality the GPU is fine. The biggest issue is that there is no video encoding chip.
What is the problem, I don't understand, please explain 😅
@@mehtWPD The EU version is not able to recode video. So no video editor will work. Also the RX 6400 costs 180€ in Germany but the RX 6600 is 2-3 times faster and costs about 280€.
@@Crustenscharbap Oh, it makes sense now
When RX 6400 in hybrid mode with a Ryzen APU CPU, such as 5600G, it should be able to encode and stream video via the APU.
What's that?
People talking about the price and performance being the same after 3 years but nobody mentioned the Rx 6400 using significantly less power, up to 50% in some cases
That's what I was saying to me
Lmao even the cpu consume more watts
@@ZITROZ That doesn't change the first fact. It still sucks for the price.
@@moritlh ofc I know like for 50€ more, you've got a 6500xt
Nigga no one cares about that shit lmao
It's a shit fucking card
The RX6400 is highly dependent on PCIe bandwidth. Meaning that most likely the perfomance using the 6400 in a low profile system that isn't AM4 with a PCIe Gen 4 enabled motherboard or Intel 11th+ gen is going to be significantly worse than what is displayed here. The FPS per watt is still pretty insane though.
If i have something like an i5 mid gen like 5tg or 6th or some number like that,should I go for rx6400 or rx550,I'm asking you cuz you seem like you know what you're talkin about
@@aggressivenade I'd still pick this over an RX 550.
The performance per watt is so high, it actually makes it the most powerful single slot card in the world for gaming. So if you're stuck with an extremely space-limited low profile prebuilt and you need a GPU, go for the 6400 (or the GTX1650 GDDR6 if you have space for two LP slots).
If you can comfortably fit a normal size 2-slot card in it though, just buy an RTX 3060 or RX6600 brand new.
@@ItsNotFrey what about rx6400 vs rx 580
@@aggressivenade RX 580 beats it. But I probably
wouldn't buy one unless it cost $100/£100 or less.
@@ItsNotFrey where I'm from,rx6400 and rx580 are the 3xact same price,around 130 USD to be specific btw if you have a gpu in mind that can run apex at 60 fps low to mid settings and costs only 100 USD pls let me know
Thank you for the test! I was actually looking to compare RX 6400 with GTX 1650 on GDDR5. But you all should know that GTX 1650 came with GDDR6 too
You should then know that it's only due to chip shortage/availability and there's no gain in anything other than the gddr6 version is running a little hotter
@@GuruZ84 ddr6 gives 10~20% more performance than gddr5
@@toromaru0912 well learned...generally not bad, but that's not the case here! Still the only reason that the 1650got a gddr6 version IS that gddr5 ran out of production. The gddr 6 one has less basic mhz and less boost while being a little more power efficient. Most games get +2fps average, why make a 1650 better than it should be?! If you're interested th-cam.com/video/mvxEgUJbiYw/w-d-xo.html
@@GuruZ84Nvidia underclocked the gddr6 version so it matches the gddr5 version performance but it if you overclock it you will will get 1650 super performance
@@toromaru0912 dude were running in circles here. Guess what happens if I buy a 1660...and when I overclock that one. I know that gddr6 gives you more, why bother developing something lower performing. Regarding the given specs...it'll do about the same
CPU consume more power than the RX 6400 💀
It’s a Ryzen 9 though
the fact that the rx 6400 is using way less power is very impressive
well.. GTX 1650 its 3 years old lol
It's about the same as a stock GTX 1650 Mobile (granted there isn't a CPU bottleneck), except you can overclock the GTX 1650 Mobile and not the RX 6400.
@@rinsenpai135 Yes, you can overclock it to consume more power. Where is the gain? the point here is how impressive is that with this card you can barely play most of the games at very decent framerates with a power consumption of 50w.
As I've said several times, people who buy GPU's that consume +200W are just dumb. And nowadays it comes together with the will of playing at 4K, so it's double dumb. Playing at 1080p have all the advantages. Playing at 4K have just one: the resolution.
@@esteveguineueta2328 I see 1440p as win from both world then :p
@@esteveguineueta2328 Dude. The mobile 1650 DOESN'T eat more than 50w, even when OC'd. And its a 3 year old gpu. On 12nm tsmc.
Yeah, so tell me again how impressive this turd is considering its worse overall than a 3 year old 1650.
So impressed by the efficiency. I'm looking forward to a similar low profile single slot RDNA3 GPU next year, with the media encoders on board this time...
Its not that efficient
GTX 1650 is more efficient. Don't fall for this silly marketing.
@@FADHsquared Indeed. The mobile 1650 eats 50w and gets basically desktop 1650 perf.
@@FADHsquared The hell you're talking about, the 6400 is way more efficient than a 1650, same for the mobile variants. If even the numbers aren't enough to convince you, you're biased.
@@trixniisama I stand corrected, TPU numbers indeed show the 6400 being more efficient than the 1650.
That said, my initial "bias" isn't without reason. We shouldn't be applauding marginal performance improvements (plus feature cutdowns) over the last viable Low Profile card which is the 1650, released THREE YEARS AGO, at a lower price.
Maybe it takes a low profile card released in 2025 which is only 5-10% faster than the RX 6400 and at the same price or higher for people to realize this stagnation.
2:52 how the hell did you got the same guy at the same place in the same game?
sketchy ass benchmarks...
If the 6400 is the successor of the 550, then it is an incredible improvement, considering its low consumption and low profile, it is NOT the successor of the 570, so do not say that it is wrong that it performs like the 1650, the 550 is the equivalent to the gt 1030, so for me it's a noticeable improvement
The RX 6500XT is the successor to the RX550, the RX 6400 is the successor to the RX 530.
The RX 6500XT has a die size of 107mm^2, the RX 550 has a die size of 103mm^2, the rx 6400 and rx 530 are cut versions of their respective GPUs/Chips.
The RX 580 is 232mm^2 die size, the rx 6600 XT is 237mm^2 die size, so the RX 6600XT is the successor to the RX 580, the RX 6600 non-XT is the successor to the RX 570.
The main problem is that GDDR6 is 15$ per GB VRAM at 16bps, the fastest GDD5 was 5.5$ per GB in 2017-2018.
Then the PCB component prices have increased about 1.4-1.7x times(depending on which components).
The shipping prices in bulk has increased 2-3x times
And the coolers are more expensive as well.
And there is inflation overall(which is included above in the price increase).
160$ for a GPU in 2022 is like 280$ in 2017.
@@rattlehead999 the price is the same? If dont, isnt the successor
@@Fubukic9 Die size is what matters, not price.
With the shortages and inflation, 160$ in 2022 for a CPU/GPU is like 280$ in 2017.
@@Fubukic9 The market is still overpriced, although advertisements say otherwise, arguing that the situation is already under control, we are still far from MSRP prices. In addition to the fact that there is a big problem on a global scale due to inflation and the falls of wall street and other sectors. I have no doubt that when everything is normalized there, the prices will be what they should be
@@rattlehead999 not really. Who cares about die size. If it was cake size I could understand it.
It comes down to how much performance for how much money.
According to amd series number it would be compared to a Rx530 but the sales price is more in a line with the rx560-570 and even a rx580 when it was cheapest. But it's not pre-pandemic time so the prices are what they are. But it is not a low budget card as the number suggests.
Yeah.. Finally AMD is beating gtx 1650 ,after the power hungry of rx5500.
Now RX 6400 was released very late due to the outdated gtx1650. However, as the gpu price correction, the RX 6400 was the perfect power efficient price reasonable than gtx 1650 and 1050 ti
Amd fan boy at its peak..
@@ninjaride1312 we are consumers. What's good for us should follow.
@@ninjaride1312 how does that make him a fan boy? RX 6400 is a better option than both 1050 Ti and 1650 with the current prices.
Rx6400 ain't so efficient.
Based on TPU 6500xt pcie scaling benchmark, it is safe to say that PCIE 3.0 doesn't decrease the performance of this gpu because it is so crappy that a PCIE 3.0x4 is sufficient. What you're seeing here is a gpu with 14% less ALUs and 15-20% higher clockspeed. Turing is slightly faster than RDNA 1/2 at the same clockspeed.
Did you see the part in the TPU review of the RX 6400 that showed the 6400xt having 76w power spikes?
test done by HUB say otherwise:
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@@arenzricodexd4409 Yup, you are right. I refer to tpu once again. In the conclusion, it is stated that performance drop is over 10%. Guess low end gpus today still need quite a few PCIE lanes, huh? Btw, I read somewhere that PCIE 3.0 + 4gb vram is the issue. If there is PCIE 3.0 + 8gb vram or viceversa, this thing should perform as expected.
@@tanbenard9955 about 8 percent on average but some games were up to 80 percent worse. Some games really chew bandwidth like Doom Eternal and Farcry 6 but most do not.
But the power consumption would be much higher due to the architecture itself as well as the process node being older
Everybody favouring the rx6400 for less power consumption but nobody notices the temps in GTX 1650 being 6-10 degrees less everytime
@@smicy521 thus low tdp as well
We can't comment on that without seeing the fan size, speed, cooler, etc.
@@doomtomb3 exactly
You should make your tests with the GDDR6 version of GTX 1650.
5% fast then gddr5.
@@antoniopikachu4732 Sometimes more, depending of game.
You mean GTX 1650 super?
Yeah
@@antoniopikachu4732 only 1%
This GPU is too late, should release at 5000 series. And no encoder probably I might choose RX 570 or GTX 1650
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What Is the encoder use? I want to Buy these amd card Buy every one Is complaining about It, but i have no idea what does these encoders have to to with gaming, can you explain?
@@julianherrera5701 it allows you to stream and encode video, useful for content creators. If your just gaming it doesn't matter
@@Potato-fb8zw thanks man, i really didnt understand until now
amd = always fasterrr
I'm running one now paired with a Ryzen 5 5600g APU 3.90 GHz, overclocked to 4.6Ghz and I can run most new games frame locked at 60fps 1080p. I run CODM at 120fps on high settings and can run games like Garry's mod and halflife in 4k at 270fps. It's a very capable little card when correctly paired.
Is there a way to use both the APU and the rx 6400 for a multi monitor setup?
@@nicknoh yes. The board has an HDMI out that runs off of the integrated apu graphics. I use amd adrenaline to set both up separately, and run a separate monitor for OSB, FB and Discord.
Same except I have a 5300g
5:35 Why it says Video Memory 4027/6143? Isn't GTX 1650 and RX 6400 only have 4GB of video memory? Is this a different GPU being tested?
I forgot what it's name, you need motherboard that can use that tech, it will put system ram on vram but it will make slightly slower
Pretty great performance if you ask me, barely using 50W.
Bruh, this is 40 dollars less then a 1650 rn! This seems completely worth it!
Take into account the performance drop with RX 6400 in PCIE 3.0 (which majority of this market have) then AMD clearly loses against pretty old cards......
Doesn't make a difference. 6500xt on pcie 3.0 is still faster than oc 1650. 6400 is essentially the same chip with 25% less cus and 10% less bandwidth. PCIE 3.0x16 was good enough for a 2080 ti. A 6400 with 1/5th of a 2080 ti raw tflops should have no problem with pcie 3.0x4.
@@tanbenard9955 The issue is with the architecture of the card. The RX 6400 is severely ham strung by PCIE 3.0 and 2.0 and performs worse than a standard clock GDDR5 1650 on these PCIE versions.
@@tanbenard9955 there is still performance drop with PCIE 3 on RX6400. and sometimes it makes the card drop below 60FPS even on lower graphic preset vs PCIE4. you can't say that as "no problem".
some games it is,its usually about a 20% performance decrease on average but this card still beats a gtx 1050ti by about 30 fps in games on pci-e 3.0 so to some people its what they might want or need,locally its about 170 here but should be about a 100 dollar card. even on pci-e 3.0 the actual performance decrease is a lot less than I thought.the only game it really makes a huge poerformane hit is on doom eternal by about half the fps but it does this with other cards.the 5500xt has about a 5fps difference on its 8x bus pci-e 3 vs 4 in like 30 games but on doom eternal it takes a huge performace loss and thats like the only game that does this
@@kyles8524 those that already have 1050Ti if they skip 1650 then they most likely going to skip this one as well. And 1650 have the same MSRP as RX6400 when the card being launch in 2019.
Is he testing the low profile version for both? I'm planning to buy a used Lenovo M70s SFF cuz i can't buy a new pc. I just wanna know cuz i think both low profile version doesn't need external power, so they would be perfect...
does this need to be tested again with the newer drivers? GoW are many other games are supposed to have gotten a huge boost on 6000 series cards.
The RX 6400 is about 17% faster when placed in a PCIE 4.0 slot vs a PCIE 3.0
That's the rx 6500 xt, the rx 6400 sees minimal to no change
the rx 6400 consumes like a gt 1030 but perfoming a lot better
but the gt 1030 is 5 years old
@@MuteR6S an the rx 6400 uses less power and have alot more fps
GT 1030 only uses 30w~40w, is a level below GTX 1650/RX 6400.
@@thiagogama94 RX 6400 uses 30w~40w, and its better than gtx 1650
@@alfonso5177 also 1650 came out 3 years, it's normal that the 6400 consumes less power but the perfomance are similar
which software shows this results on screen. i have afterburner but doesnt show gpu power usage...
if 6400 goes about 150dollars it will sell very much . many were buying 1030 for 120 dollar
By now mining cycto issue, this RX 6400 is the best budget card u ever get... and the price is dropping now lol
Yesterday's performance and today's price.
Excellent.
I wonder whether it's possible to unlock RX6400 from 768sp to 1024sp if it uses the same core with RX6500XT. But it seems not possible since it even cannot be overclocked at this moment.
AMD have probably learned from the past and lasered off those units.
Fused off so no
May be possible in the future to unlock the bios and overclock it though
@@happyguy5025 They started lasering cores since 2014 with the R9 200 series which was just a HD 7900 rebrand
some people ask about this on TPU. Wiz (the guy that do GPU reviewer for TPU) pretty much said it cannot be done.
sorry my english, how is it possible that all models up to the current 1650 have 1665MHz of maximum bosster and yours is running at 1900 MHz if you overclocked it should be described in the video description.
Mine Clocked at 1950hz stock. it's a GDDR5 version, single fan and no brand! (Saphire)
Looking good for the $159 6400 against the $219 1650!
Both 150 Msrp, one Is from 2019 one from 2022, still perform the same. Learn the difference AMD fanboy
@@ares1752 Just looked in Microcenter today cheapest new 1650 is $209 not 2019 price of $150, 6400 are $159 and sold out!
@@ares1752 what the fuck bro? he didn't say anything that makes him an AMD fanboy???
heheee
Is this specs enough for budget 1080p gaming:
i5-10400F
RX - 6400
16GB RAM
512 GB SSD nvme
Yes
Hey, what program do you use for all the stats above?
msi afterburner
@@promax1st Thank you bro!
I dreamed to have rx 6400 before like 5 months
Loosing with RX 6400! 😯
What a shame GTX 1650, what a shame... 🤦♂
Are You GTX? Rather GT!!
Time to close 16XX series, time to RTX 4040 with price of 1050!
Amd graphic cards are so underrated
and so Overpriced in msrp xd
Yoo I love that you put flight simulator in, that game is heavier on GPU's then people realize. It's always been a good test a long with cyberpunk
which memory did your 1650 have? DDR5 or DDR6 ?
From low end to dead end gpus category.Nice progress by GPU manufacturers
They want to sell the idea that 150€ is low end and you don't deserve good GPUs at that price point. We got RX570 4GB for that price at least 2 years ago and had similar performance. The RX6400 should be around 100€ considering the evolution in hardware, even so it is actually worst than RX570 in performance and it lacks encoding. And if you only have PCIe 3.0 you will have performance closer to 1050ti instead. Only good thing about it is the low wattage. If I was to buy a GPU right now I would buy a cheap used one like GTX950 and wait for prices to go down.
Not bad for rx6400... But it's gddr5 for gtx 1650 and pci 4.0 for rx6400. Pci 3.0 and gddr6 will paint much worse picture...)))
yeah dont think people bought these cards have pcie 4 on their machine
still very good fps, and power
The 6400 sips power. I have the low profile version headed my way. Going to make my little HP z240 SFF a light gaming rig! Thanks for the comparison video. 👍👍
@testing games, if possible compare 6400 to previous high end? 680/780/ 7970/290?
i've been considering the potential for this card to replace older high end cards as secondary/backup gpus
6400 beat thems.
but the price of 6400 is insanely high for current market , u guys better wait RX 6400 price drop to 100$ then it will be top budget card of year
are the graphics cards overclocked in this footage?
The test was made using a 4.0 pcie port? i mean both grapchis are connected in a pci 4.0?
Which version of 1650 are you using? DDR5 or DDR6? Great comparison 👍🏼
Please note this is best case scenario for the rx 6400. If both were put on a pcie 3.0 x16 slot then the 1650 would clearly win.
on the other side, 1650 consumes more energy overall.... watchout energy bills.
what recording software you used?
What if I have a pci gen 3? Will the results be still the same??
Are these tests performed on a Pcie 3.0 board ?
How much performance would you lose when a 6400 is put in a PCI 3.0
AMD had one decent modern era with the 470/570 or 570/580 on the budget end otherwise no one cares Nvidia at every turn especially in the RT era. What's funny is you can buy a 2nd hand 570 from a high street store for half the price of this joke of a gpu that is slower 🤣🤦. AMD suddenly thinking they are good enough to charge a lot for their stuff 😂🤣.
Amd better
@@VitusBirkedal yes, under 50watt
@@saeful865 cool
Its a low profile card like GT 730,730 or 740 and rx 500 and 400 series were mid to high end so wtf are u blabbering about? Some office pcs dont have good psus so maybe this and cards like GT 1030 could be useful
@@beataoo
WTF, a dirt cheap pc costs nothing why would ypu buy some shitty office pc with a small case. Even poor people can buy something better than one of those.
Temp difference between them is noticable.. 1650 maintained its temp❤
Less price , less power usage, same performance , rx 6400 is a beast in this case
is not a real evolution... it's suppose to be a little more stronger, but 2 fps dosen't count...
Let's not forget you have to pay the same price for the same performance as 2 years ago, and that's if you can get these GPUs at MSRP. Also the RX6400 is still a sh!tty upgrade for older rigs because of its 64-bit memory interface, that serves a dual purpose by also forcing us to upgrade to PCIE 4.0.
true, besides lacking hardware encode/decode
@@jamzqool you get what you paid for in my country its $147 vs $172
Good budget 900p card in 2022 xD
bought mine (Rx 6400) for $165 a few days ago, due to lack of GTX1650 stocks and surplus of GTX1660,1080,1060. am i happy of the purchase? yes i'm fine with it for a cheap gaming/working pc it's fine as is. but if you have the budget you might as well go for a RTX series instead.
Does anyone noticed the video memory showing in RDR2 settings? How tf its 6gb,while the both card is of 4gb
What do you think of GIGABYTE B560M DS3H V2, LGA 1200 and VGA MSI RADEON RX 6400 ITX 4GB GDDR6, do you think it is compatible, support brothers
It would be good to see if there is improvement since a year ago, the RX 6400 had quite a few software upgrades
At most, it can only be faster for 3-5 fps
i still say gtx 1650 is winner, running at same performance (sometimes little bit higher) with pcie 3 is a huge different for me, now what if gtx 1650 have pcie 4 (not the super one) ...
Who is the best graphics card Asus Dual RX 6400 4GB ya Colorful GeForce GTX 1650 NB 4GB please reply
Just get a PS5 or Series X, this doesn't even come close to what they can do for the price point! I have gaming PC, but never game on it, to many shtty ports!!
Is RX 6400 the most powerful GPU that requires no external power cable so has a TDP of 75W or less?
53W específicamente.
If money isn't problem, rtx a2000 for sure
Not true actually but the RTX A2000 is too expensive as a gaming card it is still more powerful than the 6400.
You can oc the 1650 a Lil bit and get the same performance as the 6400 (and more) with less temps.
My verdict is that if these both are on a laptop, get the 6400, for the pc get the 1650 and oc a little bit
I'm seeing the 6500xt for almost the same price as 6400 at my local. But I wonder if it consumes more power, is it worth picking the rx 6500 xt over the 6400 ? Is there much difference? Thanks. Also the gtx 1650 is way more expensive than both in my country. weird.
6500 totally consumes more power. It even requires 6pin power source. It's about 20-30% faster I heard. Please check the specs.
6500xt use 90 watt but when people test it, it's around 70-80 watt. Meanwhile i bought used rx6600 and used 100 watt although AMD Said it's 130 watt.
@@arx117 thanks guys for the info! Forgot I wrote this comment 😂 same here, I bought an asrock 6600xt, have it for a year now, played so many games with it, now I spent most of my time with the Xbox series X. Thank you guys for taking time to reply me.
bro plz tell me how you recorded screen with RX 6400
Bruh someone knows wich is the difference between pci 3.0 and 4.0, because i have an hp 8300sff and i dont know if the difference will be as small as in this video, because i think the motherboard of my pc has pci3.0 because is old
The people ''impressed'' by its efficiency, you do realize the gtx 1650 gddr6 on laptops eats 50w and performs similar to this. And its on a much worse node.
@Sam Ross No, its about as fast as the 1050. So, quite a bit slower than a gtx 1650 and rx6400.
And the gtx 1050 eats 50w while being on a ancient 16nm node and being 5+ years old. Still impressive from the 680m.
@Sam Ross I was speaking of a heavily gimped mobile 1050. As in it was paired with 2400mhz ddr4 ram, i5 7300hq and bottlenecked by optimus. Remove all that and it'll edge out the 680m again. OC'd, the 1050 mobile gains 15% more performance. And its still a 50w card.
Pour un PC au top côté efficience énergétique et du jeu en médium, la 6400 est tout indiquée. Pour aller chercher du détails plus hauts, la 6500xt est vraiment top. Quoi qu'il en soit cette 1650 est aussi pertinente que la 1630, c'est à dire au ras des pâquerettes.
Donc si je devrais faire un choix je prends laquels ?
Conclusion: Rx 6400 is better all the way
why would you not go for the rx 6400 its cheaper and is the same
gtx 1650 4gb gddr6 209$
RX 6400 4gb gddr6 169$
in my opinion the rx 6400 is better
basically on par, except for the 6400s power efficiency
Take note this is on a pcie4.0 enabled cpu and mobo. If it is 3.0 I think gtx1650 is better.
Attention! It's gddr5 1650, not gddr6!
what matters its a good CPU/APU with very good amount of memory like 2x16DDR4/DDR5. Video cards now are much less important because the good APU 3200G/4650G/5600/5700G
Lol untill you try any demanding game whatsoever.
Good luck at 1440p-140fps with an apu, ddr5 ait gonna help sjit.
So wich one should i buy?
The test in 1080p ?
as many people say the saphhire pulse runs way cooler so use that one.
240$ in my country but still good price.1650 is 300$+
this card should be 100 bucks or less tbh, I hate GPU prices now tbh, and how expensive things are because the 5500 is a $150 card and then the 6600 should be around the 220 and so on, its just prices are insane and it sucks, 6600xt is a great value for money card right now tbh but if the market was what it used to be, the price would be 100% different for sure
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Does 63c in rx 6400 a normal temp?
tbh, if you wish to save electric bills and dont mind if you have PCI-E 3.0 motherboard, then RX 6400 is for you, because both have same price.
Except Power Usage is quite higher for GTX 1650.
Even better if you have PCI-E 4.0 motherboard.
in 2016 gtx 1050 & ti version could run any new game at high settings, now, entry-level in 2022 can't run decently newest titles...
The cost of GPU is increase, and Nvidia knew people willing to put 1200$ for RTX4080
6400 is a better option nowaday sbecause for some god forsaken reason the 1650 still sells for close to 200-250 in some cases, especially the low profile model. every model of the 6400 i've seen sells for 140 at max, with the exact same performance as the 1650 with less power consumption
RDNA 2 is efficient. Quite impressive from AMD. Running a little faster while consuming nearly half the power.
no it is not. the 1650 is a Turing card produced in 12nm, the Radeon is the newer arch in 6nm... so its just the 6years never manufacturing process
its efficient, but the temperatures are quite higher than the gtx 1650
@@georgepierre3594 that all depends on the cooler you get it with
@@PrefoX realistically it's just one generation difference
Кто же на таких видеокартах ультра настройки ставит? Хоть бы с разными настройками протестировали, 30 кадров в Horizon ZD? 😥😢😭 И всё-таки надо было достать 1650 с DDR6...
А почему в 1650 всегда больше расход оперативкы?
what is the processor
Rx 6400 is better, cheaper and consume less power.
6400 for the money is not so bad
It's trash , the 1050 3GB costs on MSRP 119$ and runs like 6400
@@daemonx867 msrp tho, it sells for like 250$ rn
@@aksyxd5583 MSRP of 1050 : 119$
MSRP of 1060 3GB : 180$
MSRP of 1060 6GB : 220$
😂😂😂😂😂
Where are your 250$ , if the 1650 can be buyed now at 219$??? 😂
And 6400 at 190$ 😂😂😂
@@daemonx867 I have a 1050ti and and just got an rx 6400 as an upgrade and I assure you in my tests that your comment is false as my rx 6400 beats out my 1050 ti.
@@dapplebaumer What a liar, infact 6400 requires PCIE 4.0 to run at this performance otherwise becomes worst card in PCIE 3.0...... so you saying you have PCIE 4.0 motherboard but can't afford better card? 🤣🤣🤣
how the heck you got same gameplay on both gpu's ???
Same video
Go for more mid range cpu for these type of cards
Amd you did a great job. Budget gamers are gonna love you
Wow, a great job of producing more heat and having less pcie bandwidth is cool, right?
@@miloslimenguyen2572 Low profile form factor......single slot.....its the most powerful in that catagory......at the end of the day, it has its purpose.
@@miloslimenguyen2572 Yeah just like you. Because this graphics doesnt do shit proccessing like you so there's no chance for heat and it has pcie 4.0.
У меня GTX1650 работает на частоте 1485mgz и выше поднять не могу. Пробовал использовать msi afterburner, включал разблокировку частоты и напряжения не помогает.
RX6400 тоже есть и она работает на частоте 2360mgz
Pretty similar performance but the 6400 is way more power efficient. Its sad not too long ago there were so many cheap options for a gpu. I picked up a Msi gaming x rx 580 for $110 used and a 1060 6gb of the same card for $125. I just wanna go back to a time when top tier cards are $700ish. The way gpu’s are going in the next 5 years a gpu with be 4 slots and draw 1500watts and cost way too much. I might be one of those helping because a bought a 3080ti which is really stupid for the money. I think 70 class cards are the best for price/performance or a 6800 if your amd but those 6800 are hard to find i see plenty of 6900xt’s and less 6800xt’s. The new 6950xt is nice when compared to the stupidly priced 3090ti. And if I have to be honest I rarely use ray tracing and i use dlss some on pure rasterization performance amd doing great and their more efficient. I kinda wish in would’ve waited and got a 6950xt over my 3080ti. I payed $1300 for my ftw3 model so I didn’t pay over for it. I think it was on sale and under msrp.
I don't think the 6950 XT is power efficient by any means..it consumes the same power as a 3090ti
6400 ain't efficient
@@elitepranvent It consumes less power than 3090 but more than the 3080 Ti.
@@aninditabasak7694 well ...i might be wrong but thats still close. Hopefully the next gen wouldn't continue with the same trend of ridiculous power consumption figures. But by the looks of it it seems unlikely
Same money for RTX 3060ti or Rx6600 next gen GPU fall in this year so price drop soon and buy those cards
does rx 6400 requires pin power?