Apparently, YES. Imagine that domestic terrorists are more of a threat than international terrorists now. The far right, and far left, both recruit using Dis-information.
Could other governments follow suit please. Let's not let the oligarchs rule the planet. Government, by the people for the people, not bought elected officials for the billionaires.
@@johncage3969 It is when what you consume is false. FOX news for example. A billion dollar payout for pushing false stories awarded to Dominion, Royal family phone taps, etc. America laps up anything Rupert allows to be sensationalised. Feel free to gain your information where ever you like, but if you are eating up lies, and re publishing BS, be prepared to get called out by the smarter people you interact with.
@@johncage3969 Precisely. If the Australian government were to prohibit its citizens from reading certain information online, it'd be obvious to the public what it was trying to accomplish (controlling information and thoughts). However, people don't realize that forcing platforms to remove information does exactly the same thing.
The Australian government is not just regulating tech companies. They are regulating YOU, the Australian people. Any Aussie who's concerned with free information (which is a cornerstone of democracy) should speak up now.
Ummm, That's the job of Government. If you want to be unregulated move to the highlands of Irian Jaya. See how long you last there matey. You'll be cannibal crap in no time.
While Elon literally reposts vile garbage from neo nazi conspiracies and misinformation. Yeah... what a value add to society. Freedom speech is great, until you have people that wield it like a weapon to attack the freedoms of of others that don't fit their ideology.
We need to be regulated because of our greedy/selfish inconsiderate nature. We are polluting our air, our water and soil, our minds and our bodies. Yes, we do need policy/laws to mitigate chaos and for our ignorance and apathy, so if don't like it go live with the drug cartels in Mexico.
Freedom of speech must be protected at all costs. The government doesn't our best interests at heart, just their own. "If we lose freedom of speech, it’s never coming back."--Elon Musk
Spreading misinformation and disinformation that damages society has no value. That is all that Elon, and his garbage platform is good for. Which enemies of the west have taken full advantage of.
13:04 As you admit by your snide remark most of the other tech platforms, you seem to approve of, as they censor what you want to be censored. You are up for a rude awakening. Today you might approve of the censorship, but in the near future you might not.
Dictate so much of whose lives? And what exactly does this say about the populace? That they’re too dumb to make up their own minds? And no discussion about the pitfalls of such legislation? Seems a little irresponsible.
@@johncage3969That’s a tough one. Between the private sector and the legislative apparatus, I’m undecided. As a general rule, the role of the Australian government is not to protect the Australian public, although it will certainly feign so. Ideally, I would much prefer an informed and educated populace in order to modulate both entities. But that’s implausible.
Yeah but publicly policed.. or a simplified Red - Green meter scale with the ground news algorithm at its core, somehow.. IDK I'm only paid in a lesser level of a headache by my inner conscience by getting these ideas out.
The Australian gov doesnt have a leg to stand on. Australia is small and unimportant to these tech giants revenue wise, theyve switched their systems off before and the gov had to beg them to bring it back online even though the news didn't make it look that way, people in the know, know what really happened. Nominally the sum of money they would loose is a large number but overall it doesnt matter to the tech giants cause its a rounding error percentage wise. If they switch off Australia, with Australia never fostering a culture of innovation and technology and having its own social media platforms, the australian public have more to loose then these tech companies do. Australia is waving a big stick made of styrofoam and the tech giants know it 😆 If the tech giants don't like the gov policy they can just choose to block Australia and not even worry.
@@rogerjamespaul5528 yeah, if the rest of Australian society has the same feelings about this then we can make our laws how we want and force the tech giants to shut their platforms down in Australia😆. I suspect though that this is a minority view point and most people wont be able to function without these platforms built by these "tech nerds" otherwise they would already be blocked like they are in china. Remember that they could be blocked tomorrow by the gov just like any illegal website out there if the majority view point was they aren't useful or damaging. Ironically it was the government that complained the most and put it all over mainstream media when their facebook accounts could no longer be accessed and elon would not comply to the gov's request to block content in other parts of the world. The gov talks a big game when it comes to this but there is nothing they can do, they even lost the case in "Australian" federal court to twitter/X 🤦♀
@@Stevekpb whats funny is Albo has almost 800K X followers and a prolifict tweeter, Dutton has almost 200K X followers and even the Australian E-saftey commissioner Julie Inman Grant posts on X about the platform she tried to sue 😆. These are the people who are apparently complaining about the platforms and needing to reign them in. You might not care, I might not care but the people who can do something about it seem to need the platforms more than we do. I don't see Australia building their own version of twitter that is fully regulated and controlled by Australia so these "misinformation/disinformation" platforms are not going anywhere. I mean even Trump was able to build his own platform and was able to get his followers on it when they themselves felt twitter was controlled by the "other side".
Who regulates the government? Don't tell me parliament because that's not true! 😢
you do ... with your vote. as hopelessly ineffective as that is. Just suck it up they're all crooks. The taxpayer funds the terrorism.
there is no misinformation and disinformation there is just information, you figure it out. thats the truth.
WTF - Are we so stupid and lazy that we need LAWS to protect our stupidity
Apparently, YES. Imagine that domestic terrorists are more of a threat than international terrorists now. The far right, and far left, both recruit using Dis-information.
Absolutely.
DUH?... Yeah!
YES!!!
Could other governments follow suit please. Let's not let the oligarchs rule the planet. Government, by the people for the people, not bought elected officials for the billionaires.
It is not the job of the government to decide what information or opinions I'm allowed to read.
@@johncage3969 It is when what you consume is false. FOX news for example. A billion dollar payout for pushing false stories awarded to Dominion, Royal family phone taps, etc. America laps up anything Rupert allows to be sensationalised. Feel free to gain your information where ever you like, but if you are eating up lies, and re publishing BS, be prepared to get called out by the smarter people you interact with.
@@johncage3969 Precisely. If the Australian government were to prohibit its citizens from reading certain information online, it'd be obvious to the public what it was trying to accomplish (controlling information and thoughts). However, people don't realize that forcing platforms to remove information does exactly the same thing.
What a joke...
Are you a democracy, or not?
The Australian government is not just regulating tech companies. They are regulating YOU, the Australian people. Any Aussie who's concerned with free information (which is a cornerstone of democracy) should speak up now.
😄
Ummm, That's the job of Government. If you want to be unregulated move to the highlands of Irian Jaya. See how long you last there matey. You'll be cannibal crap in no time.
Go back to bed. you need more sleepies and remember to do your homework.
While Elon literally reposts vile garbage from neo nazi conspiracies and misinformation. Yeah... what a value add to society. Freedom speech is great, until you have people that wield it like a weapon to attack the freedoms of of others that don't fit their ideology.
We need to be regulated because of our greedy/selfish inconsiderate nature. We are polluting our air, our water and soil, our minds and our bodies. Yes, we do need policy/laws to mitigate chaos and for our ignorance and apathy, so if don't like it go live with the drug cartels in Mexico.
Freedom of speech must be protected at all costs. The government doesn't our best interests at heart, just their own.
"If we lose freedom of speech, it’s never coming back."--Elon Musk
Elon Musk? :)
Spewing sewage is not freedom of speech, it's sewerage. Just because you're offended does not make you right.
Spreading misinformation and disinformation that damages society has no value. That is all that Elon, and his garbage platform is good for. Which enemies of the west have taken full advantage of.
"Down with misinformation" - governments seeking to protect democracy against conspiracy theorists and self-serving oligarchs like Elon Musk.
@@markbollen8052 "Spewing sewerage" actually IS freedom of speech. Freedom of speech must include speech you find repulsive, offensive, or incorrect.
13:04 As you admit by your snide remark most of the other tech platforms, you seem to approve of, as they censor what you want to be censored. You are up for a rude awakening. Today you might approve of the censorship, but in the near future you might not.
Dictate so much of whose lives? And what exactly does this say about the populace? That they’re too dumb to make up their own minds? And no discussion about the pitfalls of such legislation? Seems a little irresponsible.
Keeping the blob happy
criminals with power are dangerous
Because we are just a tiny little arm of the greatest corporate fascist empire ever seen on earth? In which he is a major player.
Who is the authority on morality?
How DARE YOU tell Australians what we can see n hear, just who do you think you are
Excellent didactical cover of the issue, as evrey citizen needs to understand these risks and definitions!
They never mentioned the people who were excluded from the legislation, though!
spend my tax on this subject
Bandying about 'Fascist', Marxist'. These terms have lost all salience. All I know is, Musk regularly breaches the terms of his own platform.
Unlike banding about the term "democracy" while trying to mandate safe and effective speech.
He's using the terms hyberbolically, but governments cracking down on free speech is an essential element of authoritarianism.
@@johncage3969 If so, hyperbolic has become normal discourse. We can only hope for Marxism.
@@Samsgarden I agree that hyberbole has become way too common in the discourse. As a Marxist, do you oppose this legislation?
@@johncage3969That’s a tough one. Between the private sector and the legislative apparatus, I’m undecided.
As a general rule, the role of the Australian government is not to protect the Australian public, although it will certainly feign so.
Ideally, I would much prefer an informed and educated populace in order to modulate both entities. But that’s implausible.
Yeah but publicly policed.. or a simplified Red - Green meter scale with the ground news algorithm at its core, somehow..
IDK I'm only paid in a lesser level of a headache by my inner conscience by getting these ideas out.
The Australian gov doesnt have a leg to stand on. Australia is small and unimportant to these tech giants revenue wise, theyve switched their systems off before and the gov had to beg them to bring it back online even though the news didn't make it look that way, people in the know, know what really happened. Nominally the sum of money they would loose is a large number but overall it doesnt matter to the tech giants cause its a rounding error percentage wise. If they switch off Australia, with Australia never fostering a culture of innovation and technology and having its own social media platforms, the australian public have more to loose then these tech companies do. Australia is waving a big stick made of styrofoam and the tech giants know it 😆 If the tech giants don't like the gov policy they can just choose to block Australia and not even worry.
So,, we suffer, we will not be dictated too by tech nerds or anybody, we are a sovereign Nation.
I couldn't care less about Elon and his misinformation/disinformation platform.
@@rogerjamespaul5528 yeah, if the rest of Australian society has the same feelings about this then we can make our laws how we want and force the tech giants to shut their platforms down in Australia😆. I suspect though that this is a minority view point and most people wont be able to function without these platforms built by these "tech nerds" otherwise they would already be blocked like they are in china. Remember that they could be blocked tomorrow by the gov just like any illegal website out there if the majority view point was they aren't useful or damaging. Ironically it was the government that complained the most and put it all over mainstream media when their facebook accounts could no longer be accessed and elon would not comply to the gov's request to block content in other parts of the world. The gov talks a big game when it comes to this but there is nothing they can do, they even lost the case in "Australian" federal court to twitter/X 🤦♀
@@Stevekpb whats funny is Albo has almost 800K X followers and a prolifict tweeter, Dutton has almost 200K X followers and even the Australian E-saftey commissioner Julie Inman Grant posts on X about the platform she tried to sue 😆. These are the people who are apparently complaining about the platforms and needing to reign them in. You might not care, I might not care but the people who can do something about it seem to need the platforms more than we do. I don't see Australia building their own version of twitter that is fully regulated and controlled by Australia so these "misinformation/disinformation" platforms are not going anywhere. I mean even Trump was able to build his own platform and was able to get his followers on it when they themselves felt twitter was controlled by the "other side".
Oh noes! What would we ever do without the wisdom of X, (Twitter)!!! Or its chief twit!
bs my life is my life no the gover
11:11 Here we misinformation already, revenue is not the same as turnover!