Does any cable keep its free air maximum operating current when buried in a wall? Isn't this why we have the concept of fixing methods and derating of the current capacity of the cable?
As usual, well done Joe for a great video. I think Quickwire are great and champion them where I can. This great bit of kit joins their previous well designed "Sparky help" line-up, and the testing port shows how they make life less difficult. Really good point about plastering it in situ and common sense points to some sort of protective membrane against moisture, though as the plaster dries out, the issue dissolves. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, they give some helpful applications on the other vids. It's basically a really quick, secure, maintenance free way of joining two cables together. 😃
It would be great if quickwire could come up with a waterproof version, or a cover could be designed to add reliable waterproofing to the existing designs.
Great video. A question I've been trying to get answered - can the 24A version be used with older T&E that has 1mm CPC. I'm presuming not until I hear otherwise.
Earth not so sure, terminating say a radial 20a socket cct I always like to twist gently together the Cpc a couple of times then bring them up in 1 piece of sleeving and terminate. This way if the earth's somehow comes out of the terminal by a meddler changing sockets, the earth is maintained for the rest of the cct. Not an option with earth sure
You need to think about why such an instruction would be present. Often it is because it impairs the ventilation and can cause the device to overheat. But if you take a moment to think about this device, why would it overheat? It is simply carrying the same current as in the cable connecting to it, and those cables are buried too. Are you going to say cables should not be buried in the wall because they overheat? It's a question of designing the installation properly and derating the maximum current the cable can handle according to the fixing method employed. I am quite sure the plastic case of the splitter is designed to go up to 80°C, the same as many thermosetting plastic insulated cables, it would be a pretty naff product if the max operating temperature were to be lower: it would mean that if you started repairing damaged cables with it, you would have to change the breakers and reduce to a lower current rating. Which would not be desirable.
Unfortunatly its indicative of the lack of common sense these days , you have to provide a regulation for just about everything ...because its all , monkey see monkey do ,, nobody thinks anymore ...eg. ask , why are you doing that...? Regs madam...
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4:21 The instructions say do not cover - time stamp 2:39 - so I doubt it keeps its 24amp rating if concealed in a wall.
Does any cable keep its free air maximum operating current when buried in a wall?
Isn't this why we have the concept of fixing methods and derating of the current capacity of the cable?
Yeah, that's one of the things I was curious about as well but Quickwire suggest sted it would be ok. 💪
As usual, well done Joe for a great video. I think Quickwire are great and champion them where I can. This great bit of kit joins their previous well designed "Sparky help" line-up, and the testing port shows how they make life less difficult. Really good point about plastering it in situ and common sense points to some sort of protective membrane against moisture, though as the plaster dries out, the issue dissolves. Keep up the good work.
Thanks very much for the great comment! 😊
Another great video.
Thanks
Thanks for commenting! 😃
What a brilliant video for supporting the banning of ring final circuits.
I’m still having problems understanding where and why you would use something like this. I guess I need to go watch the other videos.
Yeah, they give some helpful applications on the other vids. It's basically a really quick, secure, maintenance free way of joining two cables together. 😃
Would love to have something like this for Rome here in the states. I hate Romex but it's everywhere in residential here.
It would be great if quickwire could come up with a waterproof version, or a cover could be designed to add reliable waterproofing to the existing designs.
No just use a resin filled joint if it's getting soaked
Still love that Joe-3PO caught on 😆
🤣👍🏻
Great video. A question I've been trying to get answered - can the 24A version be used with older T&E that has 1mm CPC. I'm presuming not until I hear otherwise.
Why would it make a difference.......Does it matter that the old cables are connected to a double socket usually rated at 20a
@@markyd2633 If it's designed to grab 1.5 sq mm cpc and doesn't adequately grab 1 mm CPC then it matters!
@@markyd2633 presumably what will matter is whether it can make adequate contact with a 1mm cpc
@@markyd2633 Minimum size for the physical contact...
Great question, we'll put it to Quickwire! 😃
Good video
Thanks very much. 😃
does it work with earthsure
Great question, we'll give Quickwire a nudge! 😃
Earth not so sure, terminating say a radial 20a socket cct I always like to twist gently together the Cpc a couple of times then bring them up in 1 piece of sleeving and terminate. This way if the earth's somehow comes out of the terminal by a meddler changing sockets, the earth is maintained for the rest of the cct. Not an option with earth sure
Looks good..
Maybe they need to develop a
1 ,IP65
2, 32a
3, 50a
possibly
They're pretty responsive over at Quickwire so watch this space...
@@efixx yeah ..if anyone , knows a Developers in Quickwire..
do this - IP65 , 32a and 50a .
Thank me later . Quickwire
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Thank you! 😃
Clever device...
Good isn't it? 😃
I'd have thought the big *DO NOT COVER* warnings would have argued against burying in the wall
You need to think about why such an instruction would be present.
Often it is because it impairs the ventilation and can cause the device to overheat.
But if you take a moment to think about this device, why would it overheat? It is simply carrying the same current as in the cable connecting to it, and those cables are buried too. Are you going to say cables should not be buried in the wall because they overheat?
It's a question of designing the installation properly and derating the maximum current the cable can handle according to the fixing method employed.
I am quite sure the plastic case of the splitter is designed to go up to 80°C, the same as many thermosetting plastic insulated cables, it would be a pretty naff product if the max operating temperature were to be lower: it would mean that if you started repairing damaged cables with it, you would have to change the breakers and reduce to a lower current rating. Which would not be desirable.
Yeah, that struck me too, I asked the techie people at Quickwire and they said it would be OK. 👍
Isn't a screw an "appropriate compression tool?" 😀 (No, I don't really believe that)
😂 Whew, I was about to get triggered there! 🤣
I think your video could mislead some viewers, at 2.46 you insert a cable in to the JB, It is inserted the wrong way round.
Incredible spot, well done. We're going to revoke Joe's biscuit privileges until he's suitably chastened. 😂👍🍪
@@efixx I love the Vids, Im a retired OCD Sparky
Great work Steve, thanks for watching and commenting! 😃
nobody stocks these anymore.
who ever is asking some of these questions, do not warrent your time to reply.
No-one really becomes a fool until they stop asking questions... 🤔
@@efixx ‘Are they water proof’
These are questions from people that shouldn’t be using them in the first place!
Intellectual sparkies, that's an oxymoron.
The land of ring circuits 😂
still big NOPE in 99% of countries.
😂 They've got their uses to be fair. 👍
Unfortunatly its indicative of the lack of common sense these days , you have to provide a regulation for just about everything ...because its all , monkey see monkey do ,, nobody thinks anymore ...eg. ask , why are you doing that...? Regs madam...
Er, what is? 🤔