WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? 1957 vs 1958 PLYMOUTH
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- This video took a long time to make and I hope that you can be respectful with your comments. This video was done to help others out that maybe building a 57 or 58 Plymouth or simply for those who just enjoy facts about these beautiful Forward Look Cars. Please enjoy the video feel free to leave a positive comment below. Also feel free to share the video with your friends and please remember to SUBSCRIBE. Thank you for watching, enjoy.
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Thank you for going through the differences between the years. As a child of the 1950s, I had always found these Plymouths fascinating. You did a wonderful job explaining the differences between the two.
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it! We appreciate the kind comment. They certainly were a beautiful car. Thanks for watching 👍
The ultimate niche video.
Good to see someone go into things such as differences in molding, body panels etc. Most get stuck on horsepower, cubic inches and how this all compares to a Corvette.
@@jackkilpatrick5834 thank you. I agree. Thanks for watching hope to earn you as a subscriber 👍
I know the differences already but I watch every video that features these cars. I like both but 58 is my favorite. Good video dude.
Thanks for watching!
I loved these cars since I was a kid in the 60's, there was one change from '57 to '58 that Plymouth repeated in '67 to '68. The hood lettering for the '67 Fury went across the entire hood the way it did in '57. For '68, the '67 hood lettering was moved to the trunk the way it did in '58. For me, all of the Forward Look cars were beautiful cars no matter how plain or fancy.
Kudos from a GM guy. I could show a lot of love to a 57 or 58 two door hardtop, and that feeling came long before any silly movie. 👍👍
I'm a GM guy at heart but like some models from Mopar and Ford as well. Thanks for the kind comment and thanks for watching!
I like them both
My parents were very conservative so it indeed was a surprise when I came home from a college break to see a new '57 Plymouth in the drive. Four door, cream top and metallic gold bottom with a cream strip running up the side of the body, rear to front. Push button transmission, humongous tail fims, and a V8 engine. That car sure could move. It got a whopping 8 MPG!
Thanks for sharing that's awesome. Thanks for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber.
My favorite it's the 1958 Belvedere with Iceberg White, i would like see more 1958 cars.
In 1993 I had the pleasure of talking with a gentleman in Gatesville, TX who owned both a '57 and '58 Fury and I got to see them in their all their Buckskin Beige glory. The '57 was in need of a lot of restoration but the '58 was damn near cherry. The only major issue was the rocker panels were rusted out. I spent a good hour or so listening to him tell me all about the cars. I learned a few things I hadn't known about dual carbs, like how you had to be pushing down a good ways already before that second carburetor even engaged. If I'd had any way to swing it at the time I'd have signed my life away to be able to buy that car from him.
Great cars for sure, thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching.
The 1957 Plymouth fury
2 door hardtop,
Is one of my favourite cars.
They're absolutely beautiful,
but it needs to be totally original.
A car that's not messed with.
Oh ... Please not red with a white roof,no thank you.
Lol😂😂😂
Your a very informative guy,
Thanks for sharing. You've made my day 👍
Awesome thank you for the kind comments. Thanks for watching!
A simple 1957 Plaza four door Sedan. My absolute favorite! I'm still on the search!
@@mossi408 they're out there. Thanks for watching hope to earn you as a subscriber 👍
Very informative video, thank you. I've always loved the 1958 Plymouth Fury, my neighbor ( a few years before the Christine movie) had a cream colored Belvidere that her husband bought brand new in late 58 and kept it in the garage since he passed away. On Sunday I didn't have a ride to church choir practice and she offered to give me a ride in it (yes she only drove it to church and get groceries), I fell in love with that car and when the movie came out it cemented my love for the car even more.
They are definitely a stunning automobile for sure. Thanks for sharing the memories those are special to have. Thanks for watching 👍
This brought back some memories. I have had two 57s, a 58, a 59, and two 60s. One 57 had a flathead six cylinder, one 60 had a big slant six motor, and the rest had 318 motors. My 59 was a Fury and I swapped a factory 4 BBL manifold onto it off of a 58. With an unsilenced air filter, you could hear it a block away when I opened the throttles.
Glad we could return some great memories. It sounds like you were very lucky to own so many beautiful Forward Look Cars. Thank you for watching 👍
@@StreetFreaksGarage Back then, owning these cars was a lot easier than cars today. The 60 with the slant six cost me $50 from a used car lot in Stockton, California in 1969.
Good job with all this video.. dropping some knowledge.. thank you for passing it on. Thank you for all your hard work.
I really appreciate that! Thank you so much for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber. :)
Ah, yes! 1957 Plymouth wheel covers are da bomb! My dad had a '59 Belvedere company car with dog dishes. Like everyone else, he thought the '57 wheel covers were really sharp, so he bought a set out of a junkyard for the '59. His next fleet vehicle was a 1960 Valiant which, of course, had only 13 inch wheels, so the '57 covers went on the garage wall until the Valiant was replaced by a '63 Belvedere wagon. The covers moved onto his next company car in 1965, a Belvedere II, and when he bought that car off lease for Mom, he went back to the junkyard to get another set for his leased '67 Fury II. But '57 wheel covers were impossible to get as they were so popular. He ended up getting a set of '59s, which had the added delta shaped stampings that made them less desirable. He also bought that car off lease, and the covers on both cars left with them when they were moved on.
Very cool memories, thank you for sharing and thank you for watching 👍
Interesting story, thanks for sharing,
This would have been a great high school car . Now I am bout ready to retire and am driving a 1989 124 Mercedes life is crazy.
I love both 57 and 58s....I regret that I sold my 57 Savoy with a V8 and sport tone trim two door sedan.... But since we got our 60 Fury two door hard top....I love it as well......Look forward to more work on the Plymouth and the 59 Buick!
Thank you! More progress with be coming soon on the Plymouth. Thanks for watching 👍
I've been a fan of Cold War Motors for some time. Scott has a number of these cars. We've been waiting on his splice-o-rama to complete a 57 and 58 two door Fury or Belvedere ( he has a 59, 60 and 61). We've never been walked through the descriptive differences of these earlier ones. Always knew the difference between a 57 and 58 but not to this detail. Thanks for the informative video.
@@philipdecatanzaro1822 thank you for the kind comment. We appreciate that. Yep we're familiar with Cold War, Dean is actually a good friend of ours. I can't say how many of these cars we have because we get slammed with negative/rude comments, lol. But while the video was alot of work we love to help people if we can. Thanks again we hope to earn you as a subscriber. 👍
I like the 57 but the 58 is also nice
Thanks for the intersting info & details. What would be your take on a Belevered having a 150mph cluster? Means it's been swapped anytime in its lifetime?
Yes more than likely swapped at some point as the 150mph speedometer was Fury only. Thanks for watching 👍
I was 4 years old in 1958. I really liked cars. I knew the difference between the 1957 and 1958 headlights, valence panel, and tail lights even back then. I disliked the '58 tail lights because I thought the lights should be in the fin. I liked the front ends equally. You pointed out a lot that I didn't know, like the '58 tail lights were supposed to reflect in the upper trim in the fin. Even today I prefer the 1957 and almost can't believe someone would convert one into a '58. As for the wagon, I thought the fins should have been like sedans and hard tops and not been leaning forward. The fins on the wagons never looked right to me. Imagine if other manufacturers had done that, for example a 1957 Chevy wagon with the fins slanted forward on the wagons.
Bumper wings were offered for all cars. But they were standard option on the Fury. Hood emblem letters are the same size on the 57 hood as the 58 rear. So they can be used in the conversion.
I don't believe a Plaza ever had wings. Yup letters are interchangeable hood/trunk however I believe mounting studs are different. I'll check my collection and confirm.
Cool video
@@GeekAndSon Thank You! 😎👍
Tim, what an awesome video... thanks for making this!
Now that I own one of each of the '57 and '58 cars, your video clears up a lot of the confusion as well as answers a lot of questions that I had, especially about swapping parts.
I was particularly surprised to find out that the front and rear windshields are different between the years, and since I'm going to need a front one for my 58 project, now I'm a lot wiser going into that effort! 😊
You're welcome! Thanks for the kind words. The windshields are the same from 57 to 58 the difference is Hardtop vs Sedan. Two door and four door hardtop are the same, then four door sedan and two door sedan are the same. Thanks for watching please share. 🙂👍
Great in-depth video sir. I own a roller 57 Savoy 2 door post. I know it’s not the glorious Christine car and that’s fine but I think I like the tail lights on a 57 better as well as the front lower valence with the vertical bars. Another cool thing about this car is it has a clutch pedal. And a 3 on the tree. Which would make it easier to install a 4 speed and a V8. The 2 door hard tops are the most beautiful cars hands down. I’m mostly into Roadrunners but this showed up on marketplace. Not sure I’ll build it. Time will tell You video was excellent.
Wow that was amazing video a lot of information great job.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 👍
Could you order the top end Fury engines on lesser models and get the 150mph speedo or were those engines and speedo strictly for the Fury option only? Thanks
@@davidclarke6658 thanks for the questions. The 350 Golden Commando and the 150mph Speedometer was available in the Fury models only. Thanks again for watching. 👍
I would like to see you do an episode on 59 Buicks
the one that WILL be confusing is a fury vs Chrysler Windsor. There used to be a Windsor in one yard and a Fury in the other yard.both ,58 cars. same paint and everything. They didn't look perfectly across each other. But it was confusing.
Love you and your video 😊😊 I got a 1958 savoy some one put a 1959 front clip on it😊
Thank you so much. That is an unusual combination isn't it? Thanks again hope you enjoy the channel. 🙂
I have a 58 2dr ht and i love the front but actually prefer the 57 backlights so thinking about to convert.
Me too,
Very interesting video. That's back when they made real cars. I don't like the sixty model because of unibody construction. They have beautiful fins on the sixty model, a friend of mine had a sixty model and it had been sitting about 40 years and it looked solid till I took a bumper jack and started to lift up the rear and I noticed the tires never moved and I looked under it and it was gone the frame rails and we heard popping noises and it came crashing down and the rear stayed up due to the jack. He just junked it after that.
@@bad66chevelles I love the imperial cars I'm looking for a 66 model I love the design they are the last year for body on frame.
@@bad66chevelles I totally agree I never did like a car that has a unibody construction especially a large car because they are weak and you have all that road noise and squeaks and rattles.. to me a unibody car is weak
Yeah the unibody thing stopped us from buying several 1960 Plymouths. Too bad it was a pretty good looking car too. Thanks for watching 👍
great video, would like to see a 57/58 subrban vid
also on the front valances 57/58 were they body colour or silver, were those colours if silver only model dependent?
Awesome video, nice job!
Thank you very much! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching 👍
My dad bought a new 59 savoy 2 door,
Very cool. Thanks for watching
I would love either one in my shed 4 door or two but alas being in Australia they are exactly thick on the ground here.
This is great! (:0) Seriously, thank you for shooting this video.
My grandfather had a '57 Plymouth, I believe (judging from photographs of the rear at least). 4-door, probably a Belvedere.
Mostly, I like the '58 Fury hardtop best. Although, somehow I feel like I would actually prefer the positioning of the '57's rear view mirror more than that of the '58.
Thank you for the comment and for sharing about your grandfather's Plymouth. Thanks for watching 👍
interesting video ,thank you. didn,t the 1950,s dodge,s sold in canada have the identical tail lights as the plymouth. all the 50,s dodges on tv /movies [ in us] show three round lights in the tail fins. am i correct ? thanks
Yes that is correct, they had 58 Plymouth back end and 58 Dodge front ends in Canada. I've heard people refer to them Plodges. Thanks for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber.
The chrysler cars were fixed in 58 after the rush for 1957 in dealerships hit a snag
On the interior shots in the '57 someone has pulled the heater fan knob and put it where the headlight knob should be, leaving the fan control with just the stem sticking out.
most informative :D thats a lot of stuff i never heard. the 2dht fins vs the 4dsed.
Thank you... it took a while to compile the differences but we hope they will help people. Thanks for watching 👍
In Canada, the Dodge was a rebadged Plymouth, with a Dodge grille.
I love all the station wagons
I am impressed. I thought I knew the differences... but only knew so few. Dad had a new 1958 Belvedere four door hardtop. Turquoise and white with sport tone. It was beautiful. Dad was a deSoto guy, but money was tight in 1958 with the recession our country was experiencing. A strippo deSoto Firesweep was about the same price as the Belvedere, BUT the Belvedere was nicely equipped and trimmed. I was afraid that when I grew up, cars could not be as beautiful. I think I was rightl Still think the 58 deSoto Fireflite was the best styled car ever. What do you think? Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much for the kind words. Thanks for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber.
I kind of like the 57 trim better.
I bet if Mark Worman watched this he was drooling 😂
lol possibly. We actually sold him the pair of front bumper wings he used on his Christine build. Thanks for watching.
I've enjoyed this comparison as I owned a 57 Belvedere 2 dr.htp in blue with white stripe back in 1960, mine had the sport steeirng wheel with pwr steering, twin deck aerials opt.and rare ci 727 three speed torqueflite auto, I raced a guy and broke a valve spring , ended up rebuilding the engine in my dad's garage, turned out good and ended up trading it for the big finned 1960 belevedere.
Sounds like a great car! The 60 was a cool car too. Thanks for watching hope to earn you as a subscriber. 👍
It has been probably 30 years since I have read the book, but I believe I am correct in saying that in the novel, Christine was a four-door. If John Carpenter changed that for the movie, then it was a fantastic idea. One thing I hate about the majority of modern cars is that most of them are four door cars. I understand all the reasons why, but I do not like it one bit.
Yes you are correct in the book she was a four door and the picture with Stephen King on back of the book he was sitting on the hood of a 1957 Plymouth. Thanks for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber.
1958 Plymouth my story I was driving through the country and seen this car in a field . Long story short I got it for 450 dollars plus wrecker bill all there 1958 2 door savoy. It runs and drive but need work.
Awesome! Sounds like an incredible buy. Thanks for watching 👍
You should show 1960 Plymouth , I had a 1960 Plymouth Police car I bought at a auction
The 58 also had the new B engine as an option - 305 horsepower.
Correct. 350 Golden Commando to be replaced in 1959 by the larger 361. Thanks for watching 👍
I'd love to know where people are finding these cars i can never find one
They're out there. Typically with a 50k and up price tag though. Keep looking. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Very interesting. The closest my family Came was a 1960. My father sort of clipped my mothers wings with that car. It was a 3 speed manual. Afraid I don't remember the car. As for me I prefer the 59. The car I do have a lot of knowledge is Edsel.
A 60 is very cool too. We had a 60 Fury but ended up selling it before we could even load it up, lol. We love the Edsel! 58 Edsel is our favorite. Thanks for watching!
The '57 and '58 Plymouths shown had the push button automatic selector. Both of these also came with a three speed manual transmission. These had the gear shift attached to a separate shaft below the steering column, making shifting somewhat awkward compared to the competing competition so equipped. Fords had the shift shaft on top of the column. Chevy had theirs inside the column.
@@rayfridley6649 yes we have those stick shift manual versions here at the shop as well. Thanks for watching
Very informative video! I have wanted a 57/58 Plymouth since I was 12 and saw the Christine movie. I am now 39 and I bought a 58 Plymouth Savoy 4 door sedan. My husband and I restore mainly Pontiac GTOs for a living, and he is doing the metalwork, bodywork, and priming on my car named Lil Red. I bought my car about 7 years ago on EBay. I aaved it from being a parts car. I had to have it in sotrage for that long, but we have been working hard on it since last spring when it got delivered to our house. My husband got the flat head six motor running and the 3 on the tree works! Something about these cars that they find you! Mine sure did!
Thank you so much we appreciate that. Very cool congrats on your purchase! Oh yeah LOVE the GTO's! Would love to see "Lil Red". Really cool you got her running and driving. LOL yes they do find you hahaha. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I get freaked out looking at the front of these cars because of Christine. Kinda like seeing the Jaws shark for the first time and always having an initial reaction…whether good or bad.
@@jaysullivan2236 lol they have that effect on people. Thanks for watching 👍
I'm watching the show of 57 and 58 Plymouth and it's a good learning tool here's another one for you 59 Buick LeSabre and Victor electric and electric 225 four doors and floor pans big difference on all four
That is correct. Buick (and really many GM products of that era) had many differences among models. Although the LeSabre & Invicta had a lot of close similarities. Length/frame was the same on those two models.
Definitely I like the 57 plymouth fury
Us too. They were such great cars. Thanks for watching. 👍
@StreetFreaksGarage Your Welcome, and like wise as always.
That is my favorite car , 58 that is
In U.S, the Dodge was only below a Chrysler, with Desoto being below a Dodge and Plymouth was the base division, In Canada, Dodge and Plymouth were equal, just like in Canada, the Pontiac was pretty much a rebadged Chevrolet, with Chevy drivetrains, Ford had a Meteor Division in Canada, that was a cross between a Ford and a Mercury.
Love your cross 😊 Jesus is everything love you
God bless. Thanks for watching 👍
I've always wanted Christine
Me too! Thanks for watching and hope to earn you as a subscriber.
This is amazing the slight difference between them I have a 58 4 Dr savoy and I'm in new Zealand so it's rhd and has a dodge instrument cluster these are made in Canada im looking for engine mounts for the 318 poly rather than me fabrication some mine is a 6 manual 3 on the tree I want to put my poly into it if you have a set spare give me a price and shipping to new Zealand
I don't believe we have any of those but will take a look. Thanks for watching!
In my area only lower class people or people who didn't care, bought Plymouths. But us kids knew and loved all the new and brilliant forward look cars. We noticed and memorized EVERY model of the Plymouth and dodges.
I can only remember the Plaza and the Savoy model names now. We all knew what the Fury was along with the Dodge Custom Royal D-500...AND We SURE knew about the DeSoto
ADVENTUER with its gold grille and gold hub caps.
You could hear the DeSoto HEMI winding z z ř⁵_
Through the firewall as your father or uncle nailed it...
Amazing memories of the Old America.....
Those are fantastic memories. Yes the Forward Look Cars were absolute works of art. The only model I see you didn't call for Plymouth was the Belvedere. Great job on listing the models. Thank you for watching and I hope to earn you as a subscriber 👍
Like the 58 better !
There is a difference between early and later 57s - the vertical slots in the valance were full-width on early cars, vertically bi-sected on the rest.
@@jamesbosworth4191 yes that was stated in the video. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@StreetFreaksGarage I heard him mention the chrome divider strips, not the width of the slots.
It also depends on the motor what size
1958, had dual headlights.
The MOST obvious difference is the "headlights". The '57 INNER light is a "parking" light only. The he '58 has real DUAL headlights. Plymouth wanted to be ready for when the "duals" would be legal ('58) , so the light hardware appeared on the '57!
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Plymouth Dodge and Chrysler
The '57 has 2 head lights and 2 small parking lights and the '58 has 4 head lights but the front ends are exchangeable. I used to own a '57 but some idiot decided to pull out in front of me .I will say this the other driver is damn lucky I did not see her that night if you get my drift I wish said the word attorney to the other party's insurance company you and I both know insurance companies do not like to hear that word
That sucks for sure. Yeah that "A" word tends to scare them lol. Thanks for watching 👍
Found a '57 Belvedere V8 2DHT donor car in central Alberta. Rough. Decent bumpers, some chrome, some glass. 3 speed tree. Pedals intact. No engine or trans. Contact if interested. Thanks.
Feel free to email us pics, pricing and location to: streetfreaksgarage@gmail.com
You mention that people like to “convert” 57 Plymouths to look like 58’s. I gotta ask - why would anybody do that, when 57’s look so much better? The headlights, taillights, even the hubcaps of a 57 all look better that those same components on a 58.
That you'd have to ask them. I guess it's all matter of personal opinion. We love them both! Thanks for watching!
Weren't the 1958s a little bit longer than the 57s?
@@wiiambarnarx8485 nope same dimensions. Some say they "look" longer due to the "hockey stick" stripe on the side. An illusion I'd call it. Thanks for watching hope to earn you as a subscriber 👍
1957 Fury!!!
As a young teen I pumped gas at Don’s Mohawk in Cecil, NJ. Don had a brand spanking new 1957 Plymouth Fury. It was the most beautiful car I had ever seen. I have seen several 57 Fury’s at car shows over the years, none to factory specs. Each one had the pearls missing from the fender trim rails. It remains very dear to my heart, great memories from that time.
Thank you for the comment. Yes them fender spears/pearls are pretty difficult to find for sure. "Fury" specific parts are hard to find I know wevere shocked when we ran across not on but TWO complete 57 Furys. The videos are on the channel if you haven't seen them yet. Thanks for watching 👍
Just leave a 57 a 57 and a 58 a 58
do engines what engines what was last year for flathead six ?
You forgot to meantion hard top. This one is a sedan not a hard top.
Which one? There is one two door sedan on this video and three 2 door hardtops in this video.
Why would anybody want to convert a 57 to a 58? The 57 was horrible quality-wise. The 58 was considerably improved, so I would think it would be better to just buy a 58, rather than turn a 57 into a 58.
Unfortunately not much was improved from 57 to 58 as far as quality goes they were just trying to stay on top of design and beat out top selling Ford and GM products, and quality control was pushed to the back burner. The three year early push of the 57 design left quality as an afterthought. But in our opinion the 57 and 58 Plymouth is some of the most beautiful cars ever produced. Plus to be real... 58's are just too hard to come by. Whether 57 or 58 we're just glad they are being saved. Thanks for watching!
@@StreetFreaksGarage I have to disagree. The 58 was considerably improved over the 57, which originally was supposed to come out in 58. The 57s wound up being mass-produced prototypes and are HARDER to find that the 58s, despite almost twice as many of them being produced. The 57s started rusting on your way home from the dealer. The 58s started rusting the next month.
The difference? One year.