The Invasion That Changed Everything: Soviets In Afghanistan
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For 40 years, Afghanistan has been in constant war. Before it was the US's problems, it was the USSR. And the "enemy of my enemy" of the time, just became giving power to a new enemy.
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What better way to follow up a funny video than this. Think of this video as a Part 1 for context. The next will be a video exploring what if the Soviets never invaded Afghanistan.
Can do if soviet won cold war ? I love ever about Russian and soviets!!!
I'm here early again, so I won't add anything meaningful to this comment chain!
Can do one if soviet didn't lose Afghanistan??
I was hoping you'd say that Cody!
Go check out the PODCAST Conflicted, it's a series with an ex-MI6 and Al-qaeda double agent and they go really deep into how and why did they began in the first place, how did they work etc. It was really interesting to hear, so I really really recomend it.
"The only difference.. is America never left" is giving me some serious chills right now
You want more chills- What appears to be the last major pocket of resistance to the taliban is being lead by Ahmad Shah Massoud's son, Ahmad Massoud, and the former Vice President (now acting President) Amrullah Saleh, who fought under Ahmad Shah Massoud and at one point was the head of Afghanistan's intelligence agency.
@@garethfuller2700 Yepp. I wish this new ressistance luck. The Taliban won't like being the occupier fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan either.
@@garethfuller2700 "don't cry over spilled milk" timing matters no use now when US left
*spongebob narrator voice* 23 months later…
Honestly all because we didn't know this "new russia" to well yet.
So basically
Britain set the stage
Soviet Union lit the torch
US fanned the flames
Pakistan is the fan
It is more like that the US gave Pakistan the fan.
That might be the best description, for the whole clusterfuck that is Afganistan.
9/11 is the shit hitting the fan
How were the British to know something like this would happen decades down the line before the Soviet Union even existed ?
*insert Billy Joel lyrics*
The algorithm sure has a sick sense of humour
If you’re not constantly being bombarded with reminders of how shit the world is in the 2020s, are you even living?
Yeah, it does.
Algorithms are often shit
Yeah
man
"The only difference is that the American never left" huh, yeah, about that....
Well that didn't aged well
Aged like fine milk
Yea don't be proud of that, it's a disgrace it all started from America back in the 80s, here we go 4 decades later, with the Taliban still being an American reminent
I mean at the time it was true
@@daniel1c you really just didn't pay attention to the video dude
Three great lessons here;
1. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
2. Never, under any circumstances, allow religion to be weaponized.
3. Read up on Austria-Hungary circa 1911 before you get involved in an area that’s a tangle of ethnic groups.
Or 1. Support non-interventionalism in government
@Reza Koplak406 is Syria both Shia Sunni protest against Asad regim like in Libya in Tunisia in Egypt in behrain go and read there is a population of 95% Sunni 3% Shia and 2% others there were no Shia Sunni conflict before when Iran send hazbollah terrorist to save Asad ass all Shia support Asad because he is Shia then this war became shia Sunni first read then type thousand of Sunni protesters killed by Asad who protest peacefully
@Reza Koplak406 not haram assad is a murderer like every other leader
5. “It’s not so simple for one person to have the blame”
@@thetruth3405 Actually Assad comes from the Allawi minority,so technically...
"THIS FILM IS DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE MUJAHIDEEN FIGHTERS OF AFGHANISTAN"- Rambo lll
I mean, yeah, the muj =/= Taliban
Pictures that did not aged well
Still a fucking kick-ass movie though...
Did the Mujahideen do warcrimes the same way the Taliban did?
Einstien And Enfield oh yeah
This feels a lot relevant today especially what happened in Afghanistan currently
Right you are, sir.
America should have annexed Afghanistan, then installed a matriarchy. We can't trust Afghanistan to govern on its own as long as the Taliban lingers.
It might be why this video was made
@@DarDarBinks1986 aight you jingo
@@DarDarBinks1986 Why exactly would a Matriarchy work?
"America never left"
That phrase just struck me dunno why...
Cause its true
Vietnam: *Sup*
Well this sure changes things now
The line can mean a lot depending on your perspective. If you want the US to just get out already, it can act as yet another reason for puling out, I mean, Soviet Russia pulled out by this point, why shouldnt we?
On the other hand, even if you dont like the war, it can act as more proof that the US is in fact different, despite the lack of major progress, we arent abandoning our allies over there just yet, Afghanistan may have eventually pushed the Mongols, the British, and even the Soviets out, but not the US. Not yet.
Amazing line, really.
It was beautiful
‘Why did it happen?’
if after WWII: ‘The Americans.’
If before WWII: ‘The British.’
Always:
.......It was Walpole.
Unpopular opinion: The French
Lol sorry the Russians invaded long before the US supported the Afghans.
Yeah it's the americans fault that the ussr invaded afghanistan you fucking clown lol. so is it the ussr and chinas fault for america invading vietnam?
Gameprojordan hey, you know shit backfired, could have helped without supporting radical islamists
Literally a reverse Vietnam, yet the impact can still be felt today.
You can also feel the impact in Vietnam u capitalist pig
@@MrPeterPan That person appears to be Vietnamese, based on their only two uploads being in Vietnamese. I'm pretty sure they're aware of the impact of the Vietnam war.
@@MrPeterPan uh yeah I am Vietnamese living in Vietnam so yeah lol I guess
Dai Phat Phan a lot of the problems in the US are still from the Vietnam war
@@Josh-hv2ze I mean if you look close enough you can find the connection to everything, and I know it depends upon many factors but for me personally, I'm just happy that I can live in a country that is peaceful enough and just good enough for a relatively well off life rather than the constant war the people of the middle east are going through. Hopefully, one day someone will sort out this mess in the middle east and the people can just live in peace, but I won't hold my breath though.
14:46 “The only difference is American never left.”
Well, they left now and to top that, the Taliban has already conquered the entire country.
Not the north alliance is still sorta round from what I've heard. It's just that they took what the official government owned and over thrown it
@@kalmaranimations6274 as of now the ones you refer to as the north alliance are just some rack tag dudes with a few OG guys merely a former shell of what it is but like I said as of now God knows the next coming weeks or months how it's going to develop
@@kalmaranimations6274 it's just a matter of time before Talban takes over them, months if lucky
@@erika002 yep
@@kalmaranimations6274 I thought the Northern Alliance became the post-Taliban US-backed government. Which that would mean that the Northern Alliance no longer exists, and most of the US-backed government fled the country.
Terrorists: fight Soviets
US: I'm gonna fund this man's whole career.
that's not how it was you lowlife pig. the savages from the ussr invaded and destroyed Afghanistan. so the afghan freedom fighters (called "terrorists" by modern russian trolls), fought back. it was totally fine for the US to support these "terrorist". every nation has the right to defend itself.
@@XR0075 summed my points dammit.
The Soviet forces abducted Afghan women in helicopters while flying in the country in search of mujahideen. In November 1980 a number of such incidents had taken place in various parts of the country, including Laghman and Kama. Soviet soldiers as well as KhAD agents kidnapped young women from the city of Kabul and the areas of Darul Aman and Khair Khana, near the Soviet garrisons, to rape them
Well this is a toxic comment area.
Turning a blind eye on your own nation's atrocities and believe it as a saint always works wonders.
So you're saying the Soviets had a Green Scare?
That sounds like they were afraid of the Irish
@@The_Republic_of_Ireland Or Environmentalism.
The Republic Of Ireland Irish Environmentalism?
But, I thought the Irish and Russians would love to get drunk together!
No they had a red, white and blue scare.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Well... Until the enemy is dead.
Funny side note, that saying is a ancient Arab proverb.
Nope Sanskrit
@@Procrustinator52 it could also be a proverb in both lanuages
The iron E
Price, someday you'll find that cuts both ways.
JulietVictor ;)
“America never left”…
How do we tell him?
Bro the video was 2yrs old when you posted this lmao
“Afghanistan, graveyard of empires”
Not for Genghis lol
@@chrislilley9953 modern* empire
"Afghanistan, graveyard of afghans"
@@chrislilley9953 The mongols were pushed out eventually as well, though. And they never focused on controlling the entire region, just a small portion of it.
when you are a world power the number one thing to do is invade afghanistan
Cody: *Makes video about middle east*
Comment section: you have now entered the comedy area.
Islam bad
Something something muslims something something America something something dumb rebuttal
@@senorhace4746 Writing this on a video about Afghanistan, you have now entered the dangerous area.
@@senorhace4746 *_Pisstianity_**
PvP enabled
Afghanistan was always a buffer between superpowers through it's history.
Sounds familiar
Sounds like Poland
Islamic Poland anyone?
Poland?
Pretty sure he means Serbia, or some country in the neighbourhood.
Its the Belgium of the Middle-East
"America Never Left."
2021:…Hold my beer.
August 30, 2021
TLDR: The enemy of your enemy is probably your enemy too.
The enemy of your enemy is your friend... until they realize it cuts both ways.
As an American who is the son of Afghan immigrants who fled the Soviet invasion, I must say that you gave a perfect explanation of the conflict. Pakistan’s involvement in what’s happened doesn’t seem to be recognized that often (it just gets told that the U.S. directly gave money), so thank you for including that. You left no stone unturned (based on all I’ve researched and my parents have told me about the conflict). Also, the 500k-2 million civilians killed during the Soviet invasion is a number that I thought my dad was making up when we talk about the conflict, so thank you for validating it.
I haven’t clicked on one your videos so fast in a long time. I have to show my parents this video, cause they would love to see it. And I definitely have to go and pick up a copy of “The Great Gamble.”
Amazing video Cody. This is easily my favorite video you’ve done by a long shot. Maybe someday Afghanistan will be free from war, and that there will be peace in the Middle East. 🇦🇫🇺🇸
I'm Afghan too🇦🇫 great explanation👍
D E Well said.
Without Operation Ajax in 1953, there won't be 1979 Revolution, won't be Iran-Iraq War, no Iraq War debt with Kuwait, leading to no Invasion of Kuwait, no placement of US troops in Saudi Arabia, no fatwa from Bin Laden and possibly, no 9/11.
And we'd have a secular, democratic Iran today in the Middle East.
Afghanistan is just a sideshow, a nursery which runs parallel to everything else but ended up fitting perfectly well where the pieces fall.
Maybe, but I’m not seeing any sign of it now.
OmaidTube Unless your parents actually countered 500,000 to 2,000,000 bodies that number if fake. The US have a very long history of using its media to exaggerated number of victims by its enemy.
“Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the path to peace”
hmmmm
And beastality, cant forget that
Well that aged wonderfully didn’t it?
Wasn't that a meme?
*_AMERICAN 100_*
14:45 "the only difference is America never left.”
Well, about that.
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
"Freedom" doesn't mean the same thing in every country.
For the love of God, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME.
It wasn't even about "Freedom". It was about pleasing the corporate overlords.
The Mujahideen fought for freedom....
To take other people’s rights away.
Evan Coveney we need our troops to permanently stay there, 🇦🇫 can’t win the war or achieve freedom & peace without NATO
@@TheBrickMasterB this wasn't even about corporate overlords, afghanistan had no natural resources or anything.
It was just for shits and giggles
@@5bagsofpopcorn Bin Laden was operating from over there, and simply leavig them alone resulted in 9/11. Do you actually believe we would invade a nation with no real natural resources, a mountainous terrain that is historically a hotbed for resistance groups, and has a history of literally outlasting powerful empires just because we could?
US in the 80s: "Let's help the islamists, they are fighting the commies, nothing will go wrong"
US in the 2010s: "Let's help the Syrian rebels, nothing will go wrong"
....
*Pakistan laughing*
Did they though? Other than dropping a couple of courtesy bombs?
*various CEOs laughing cacophonously.
USA sneaks in shoots a baddie. Sneaks out.
@@kavky We armed jihadists in Syria for years, probably still are.
@shield&sword peace the genocidal dictator that protects religious and ethnic minorities (and is ethnic minority himself)
"Here lies the Conqueror of Afghanistan."
- Said no tombstone ever.
Alexander the Great perhaps....
The Mongols: are we a joke to you?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAJAAJHAHAAH
hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah
Who’s watching this again as Afghanistan is falling to the Taliban once again?
I am.
It’s Biden’s fault
@@samdoe3608 lol
Me.
It's already fallen.
This video hits different today. The US has left and Afghanistan has fallen under an oppressive ultra conservative regime. In all this, the Afghan people, especially the women and children, will suffer most. Many times I have wished that I was part of history, after reading about history. But now that I am seeing history unfold, I wish I didn't.
Conservative? They are the absolute opposite of conservative values....no moral structure... anarchy...chaos...over government reach smells like socialist totalitarian dystopia
@@laysrayscloien3992 thanks for telling us you have no idea what conservatism or socialism are. Conservatives want to morally police everyone using religious values, much like the Taliban.
@@laysrayscloien3992 It looks pretty religious conservative to anyone who knows anything about what that means.
Also, how can you have anarchy and totalitarian government at the same time?
@@_M4X15because its not actually anarchy its actually an extremist islamic regime
like iran.
Americans:gets Vietnam flashbacks when they hear paint it black
Russians:get Afghanistan flashbacks when they hear Islamic music
Is there a thing called "islamic" music I mean idk if their Christian or judist music so idk
@@zaingamingtv2242 I mean there are prayers
@@zaingamingtv2242 I'm not sure which genres are used to classify Middle Eastern music, but there is certainly Christian music in America. It somehow manages to be worse than both pop country, and mumble rap.
@@zaingamingtv2242 I can tell the difference between German, US, Russian and French music, I wouldn't be able to hear a difference in Turkish, Saudi or Pakistani music tho.
@@vatu Turks speak like they have a beet deep up their rectum, saudis speak angrily and pakistani talk in a quasi-hindu language
*Meanwhile on knowledge hub*
JIMMY NEUTRON IS A GOD AND IS ABOUT FACISM
Well yes.
lol
You're god damn right
Who do you think invented the V2 rockets ? Jimmy neutroun literally rides one with a mecha german shepard
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 😳😳😳
The United States: we can totally handle Afghanistan just watch
The Russian Federation: you sure about that?
Why not just let Pakistan deal with the afghans.
Russia: “We know a thing or 2 because we’ve SEEN a thing or 2”
Considering the U.S now plan to withdraw from Afghanistan...damn
@@1mol831 That's basically what happened and Afghanistan is now a terrorist state because of Pakistan. You jinxed it.
Oh no
Who’s here after hearing that the Taliban took Kabul yesterday?
In just a few weeks, the Taliban effectively took over Afghanistan, and this time there doesn’t seem to be any Northern Alliance to resist them.
For America, we seem to be watching a repeat of the end to the Vietnam war. 20 years building up a democratic government and military in Afghanistan, and it all crumbled in a matter of weeks. Trillions of dollars spent, and thousands of lives, civilian and military, lost and for what.
I hope Americans take a moment to reflect on these events and realize that our foreign policy strategies needs to change. Of course we didn’t seem to learn anything after Vietnam, and I have no reason to believe we’ll learn anything now.
I always think that the American at least learn something from their mistakes in Vietnam or from the Soviet war, but too bad they repeated it the same this time. But as someone once said: "History Does Not Repeat Itself, But It Rhymes".
Well, in agreement with quote about rythms in history, there is forming a new Nothern Allience.
P.S. It's kinda funny to hear about low morale and only-pay-check-work in soviet supported afgan army. US just haven't learned anything from history...
@@redkraken6516 Yeah I did hear a little about some resistance groups in Afghanistan forming.
"Humans are such fools always think that they can control the world and history without problems and consequences of their actions" -me 2022
A story from my dad when he was a teen. The streets of Kabul. In a market place, a kid sold some bubblegum to a soviet soldier. The soldier kept buying more, until he didn't have more to trade for bubblegum. He still had a pistol though. He traded the pistol to the kid for more gum.
Stonks.
Heh, why not? Dude probably knew he was fucked and a dinky old pistol ain’t gonna change that
When you said "He still had a pistol though" I thought it was going into a VERY different direction.
@@mixis1931 lol. I did not notice that.
lmao is bubblegum an euphemism for opium?
So the USA-USSR tribalism clashing with Afghanistan's internal tribalism had consequences no-one had the foresight to think about.
A lot of the Cold War was short sighted decisions blinded by capitalist or communist propaganda. The US and USSR probably thought they were doing the right thing by intervening in Vietnam since it was vulnerable to a communist takeover, but in reality Ho Chi Minh just wanted a United Vietnam without any bloodshed. Same could be said with Afghan, although the sand and rocks there are stained with millennia of bloodshed.
@@dillonc7955 +USA acting in corporate interests. as we always do. big part of these CIA backed coups is for oil and shit.
@@dillonc7955 a lot of uniting takes bloodshed it seems.
@@TheCaptainSplatter There would've been bloodshed between North and South Vietnam even if the US didn't intervene and France gave Indochina independence, but there would've at least been a lot less than what happened in the Vietnam War. The Diem regime in the south was losing popularity to the point where the ARVN had less morale than the NVA. Eventually when the US left South Vietnam on it's own, it was no surprise the country fell to the North and built itself up to what it is today.
@@dillonc7955 Eh... That's putting a lot of credit on Ho Chi Minh. He did seek US assistance during and following WW2, but the US was hesitant about supporting him because he had a strong communist bent. By 1947, the US had come to place communism at the top of its list of worries, and in the years that followed, various communist uprisings further soured American support for anything even remotely communist. By then, his supporters in the north were already at war with France and snuffing out political opposition. While nominally, elections for the future of Vietnam were approaching, Ho's communists were laying the groundwork for an insurgency years before the election would take place. They had no intentions of losing, come hell or high water. The idea that he wanted peaceful unification is very much against the historical record.
Guys, I'm starting to get the impression they just wanna be left alone.
Nuke suddenly goes off between India and Pakistan
@@FelipeJaquez that totally possible, specially in 2020
Well
USA is certainly leaving the country by this year's 9/11
@@accent1666 and look how that turned out
Even if US stay another 10 years, it would not make any difference, Afghanistan is a dying country on its deathbed, ridden with rampant corruption and political cutthroat, that's why its army collapses in just 11 days.
"The only difference is...America never left."
2 years later, and we're beginning to leave.
We're pulling out to avoid our own ruin, which is understandable, but I feel terrible about the Afghanis left behind. God help them
@@noobbula The soviet Union collapsed 3 years after it left Afghanistan, how long does the US got?
It’s an unfortunate situation for everyone, the world told America to go home. And when the time came, they pleaded for them to stay and do something. And now the innocents are going to suffer through many more years of warfare.
@@Lawnmower737 tragedy
@@carlosrobertovivesgonzalez398
The Soviet Union was already dying the day Stalin had a stroke, Afghanistan was the nail, not the cause.
America's international prestige is waning but its existence is ensured due to its good geography
Afghanistan was basically the USSR’s Vietnam
The Saudis aren’t the good guys right now, it’s biased news calling them that. In reality, Saudi Arabia basically HELPED Bin Laden. Now, since we want that sweet, sweet, OILZZZZ, we spread news propaganda that they are “The best”
@@501ststormtrooper9 why must we be allies with Saudi Arabia for thier oil when we could just invade them.
Marshal Parsons, America doesn’t want to invade Saudi Arabia currently due to.... who knows honestly.
The USSR already had one Vietnam in Finland
@@501ststormtrooper9 I know why.... Oil.
Ahmad Shah Massoud even warned the United States about a "great calamity" when visiting the European Parliament in April 2001.
Ironic...
Even bigger irony as he died littearly 2 days before the great calamity
@@vincenttapia5724 well, the US did what they usally do and didn't listen ...
@@houjisaifeddine5524 leave it to the US to ignore people who know better. We got a good track record for it 😒
@@elevatedmeance6807 Coincidence? Or did the Taliban know something was about to happen, and wanted to remove the one man who could have united Afghanistan against them?
Ngl I really love the intro. Perfectly summarizes that actions we think are good in the present will bite us in the future.
Ukraina 🤫
this just appeared on my recommended... i've already watched this video
"Okay it's 2:24 am and I'm gonna sleep right now. Just gonna- oh what's this notification?"
Haha loser it's am for you haha
That's false it's 11:51am
@@ferntheyoutuber9960 It's called timezones, moron.
No its 21:37 hahaha timezones are so funny
What it's 4:08am? But I work is in 4hours!?! Bye
Thank you Cody. I'm a Muslim and have been called a terrorist many times. Your videos helped educate me on how terrorism in the 21st century began and now I know I shouldn't be ashamed to be Muslim.
100
quranic verses against jews and non-muslims are enough to prove the terrorizing nature of Islam
Anyone else coming back here after the fall
USSR, 1989: We've been in Afghanistan for 9 years and we've made no progress... Time to get out.
USA, 2019: We've been in Afghanistan for 18 years and we've made no progress... Let's stay!
Perhaps their logic is that once the USSR left the fundamentalists took over and used the country to launch attacks elsewhere in the world. If the US now leaves the same would probably happen again whereas if they keep a small presence the costs are relatively low and the jihadists are kept busy fighting the Afghan government.
If we leave now what was it all for? The countess dead then died for nothing,
It’s not like leaving will make it better even, they will just try to commit more terror attacks against the west and support more insurgent uprisings
It’s a shit show with no real peaceful way out
@@xclonejager6959 staying there is worse. its all for nothing no matter what, I hate this disgusting Gambler's sunken cost fallacy SHIT with regards to this, this isn't a fucking game.
This is more akin to The law of Diminishing Returns where we're getting less the longer we stay and at some point you just have to throw your hands up and accept you FUCKED UP.
There is no peaceful way out, right which is why we should leave now instead of later with a demolished economy. Your argument against leaving makes no fucking sense on any level.
shield&sword peace do you remember that the US was attacked first and unprovoked in this conflict?
You know 9/11 and all the other attacks across the west, there is absolutely no reason to believe that they wouldn’t do the same now if anything they would be more likely to attack us
shield&sword peace Evidence for that? And it’s “you worthless piece of shit” not “your worthless piece of shit.”
Shah Massoud gave a brilliant speech in the EU parliament a couple of months before his death (and 9/11), warning about a possible 9/11.
Source?
Don't know why he bothered. The only thing the EU cares about is it's bank account.
@@gimzod76 9/11 was probably bad for business
If he'd survived the assassination attempt it's very, very likely he would have become Afghanistan's president, can't say if he'd be able to restore the former stability of the monarchy era but he'd likely do a lot better than Karzai
Zeruel3 i dont think he would do better. Massoud was popular amongst his own ethnic group but the Pashtun and some other groups like the hazaras had bad blood with him. It would have only further fueled an insurgency.
Anybody here after the US withdrawl of troops from afghanistan
We are here after fall of kabul
Till now.
I served in Afghanistan with the Canadian military, working alongside the Afghan National Army Medical Services. Our camp in Mazar-i Sharif butted up against an old Soviet FOB (forward operating base). We visited the Qala-i-jangi fortress, where the first American was killed in the Afghan war (Mike Spann, CIA) with one of the US horse warriors providing insight to the battle and Northern Alliance. My friend, an interpreter from Panshir province, spoke about Massoud and the Soviet invasion, then the Taliban invasion. This video explains so much about why the Afghan people are the way they are. And as a side note, they loved to watch Rambo 3.
@shield&sword peace Oh shit, a keyboard warrior.
Hide the hentai!
@abe Lincoln The same guy you just supported, although indeed right about the wars simply being useless games played by the politicians and radicals, supported the Taliban in other comments. Not exactly the best guy to back.
@abe Lincoln The fact is the CIA made the wrong call. Are you saying the right choice was INDEED supporting the Taliban? Because in that case we all might as well hop aboard the rape, murder, and child mutilation train right to hell.
@shield&sword peace wow that's edgy dude. What sect of antifa u claim
The Soviet forces abducted Afghan women in helicopters while flying in the country in search of mujahideen. In November 1980 a number of such incidents had taken place in various parts of the country, including Laghman and Kama. Soviet soldiers as well as KhAD agents kidnapped young women from the city of Kabul and the areas of Darul Aman and Khair Khana, near the Soviet garrisons, to rape them
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." One of the greatest lies in history.
That's how we got a red Eastern Europe!
@Bat Orgil I like that phrase.
Maxim #29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less. --Howard Taylor - The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries. schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries
Without the Soviets the Fascists might have won WW2 and the Holocaust would have killed Billions of people!
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until the enemy is dead" A Sanskrit proverb I believe
TH-cam's being real cheeky reccomending this now
The TH-cam algorithm is always on point with the timing of its recommendations
Totalitarian Ideology vs Totalitarian Ideology
_What could possibly go wrong?_
Hydrogen One we supported the commies versus the nazis, the soviets became our enemies. We supported islamists vs commies, islamists became our enemies. When will we learn ?
Capitalism...
Everything...just...everything...
And the moderates get absolutely nothing
@@t.rellis834 Mojahedin wasn`t islamists in our understanding of word. They did want to make global jihad or kills all infidel. Sometimes they even was purely secular forces, like soldiers of Ahmad Shah Massoud. Badly that peoples, who come after them, who grown on the war, was our classic taliban guys.
This whole thing is such a fascinating, horrible political mess, a buffet of history; brutality, good intentions, misdirected anger, fear, intolerance, abandonment, shortsightedness, old grudges, it has it all. Humans, humans never change. 🤦
nigga you a human
@@lith2157
What of it?
Lith He might not be, Area 51 just went down after all
make peace, not war!
Ben W green=alien
Literally the best intro of any video ever made
And now the Taliban has finally achieved what they never truly had before, absolute control of Afghanistan.
Well, there is a resistanse in tajic territories north of Kabul. Will see.
They had it for a while before
And now they've got a whole bunch of new toys to play with, curtesy of the US Military.
@@akmonra They've had toys from the Us military for about 30 years now
@@akmonra
Afghani "soldiers" have been defecting to the talisman with as much equipment as possible for 2 decades now
However this failure of a pull out will be LEGENDARY for its incompetence. Saigon looks like it was extremely competent in comparison
The talisman has more black hawks then 166 nations now....
"the newly declared mujaheddin, or as the Soviets called them, *bandits"*
There was actually another name for them that was used amoung the soldiers: dushmani (witch is kinda not dirrectly means "enemy", it's something even i as a russian can't simply explain), in short they were called "dukhi", and it's ironic since "dukh" can mean "ghost" in russian witch was suiting for them with all those "hit and run" tacktics.
Just for a fun fact.
@@comradejet9373 Its amusing that in Rep.moldova dushmani its a sinonym for enemy :)
@@h3degt115 yeah, it's probably one of the places it came from since Soviet Army was as multicultural as Soviet Union was, including Moldova. I guess in some of the languages it is basically "enemy" upfront, but since it's not dirrectly russian word, here we're using it either when talk about modjaheds or any Other middle east fighters like talibans etc.
@@comradejet9373 Interestingly, the word "duşman" pronounced "dushman" means enemy in Turkish.
@@YamacKocovali7 and persian
Afghans: *Actually start fighting back*
Soviets forgetting what the Finns did: You weren’t supposed to do that!
ebic comeback
"Its illegal to fight back"
A strange man no shit lol
I mean, fighting in Afghanistan of course was the same as fighting in Finland
@@aspid6546 Yes, but actually no.
And now here we are
This hits different
I remember that wasn't there a guy with an eye patch fighting a giant robot
They say he fought like a man possessed
Yeah i remember that what a man he was
Kaz im already a demon
Yeah he shot his robotic arm at Soviets and extracted them via balloons
I just saw you in the comment section of Rebel Taxi's Ninja Turtles video!
Considering the British, Soviets, etc all went in seeking victory, yet completely failed just adds to the stupidity of the US going in.
Didn’t the British succeed though because they were able to create the buffer zone ? I know very little about the British war with Afghanistan .🤔
The US Government honestly probably did it just from 9/11 hurting and killing so many Americans. The people wanted their revenge and war promotes economic circulation for those participating in it. It all went well aside from the fact that we weren't fighting a conventional war and eventually got demoralized, just like Vietnam but in the desert.
Afghanistan is called The Graveyard of Empires for a reason
@@dillonc7955 Afghanistan isn't really a Desert, It's a country that's Mostly hills and Mountains, which is the reason Most invaders ran into problems even when on paper the Afghans should've had 100:1 odds tribal people knowing every inch of their land every cave, every hole, every little piece of terrain they could use to either dissappear or appear from, and little to no reason to engage when they don't have to,
a living hell for Anyone who goes there uninvited
@@Zeruel3 just build a wall around them.
Shit. That intro was probably the best you've ever done. So cinematic, it builds up tension all the way through. I'm 1:35 mins into the video and already impressed.
I want to know the music.
TH-cam must feel very funny recommending this now
Even though I love and subscribed for alternative history stuff, this video also shows why I love your channel. When you cover actual history and its happenings, you talk in a way that keeps us engaged and doesn't talk down to us. Loved this video man
Good job. After 3 military tours and 2 years of contracting in the country I can say that with accuracy. I spoke with hundreds of locals, village elders, and tribesmen who paint a very interesting picture of the events from thier prospective.
Was it different than the video? Or similar?
@shield&sword peace I interacted with LN and TCN on a daily basis. I don't expect you to know what those are since your apparent lack of knowledge about day to day operations.
flacountryboy79 What was the overall opinion of the locals. Would be interested to hear it. Tired of hearing “expert opinions” from people in New York and London.
shield&sword peace What their opinion about the Soviets?
Can we have a moment and just appreciate how good the historical introduction and the footage were in this video
I’ve watched many, many, MANY videos this quarantine to understand what actually went on. This one is the absolute best and puts its entirety into tremendous perspective. Thank you
Why didnt you mention the paramilitary group known as diamond dogs? They were a major player in the invasion
wojtek underrated comment
That’s cause there leader or as he was commonly known as “boss” was KIA
private military company??
What a thrill...
Hahaahahha. I wasn’t ready for that
Do what if Alexander The Great didn’t die at a young age
Nick Burrows Good idea!!
@D E not if he was able to have a son who'd he be able to teach a lot and made sure he had the respect to be the next king
It's like the Rome or great lakes video: everything collapses.
Maybe the ptolomeic dynasty wouldn't have been such a mess
@@jinjunliu2401 he had a son, they killed him
If he had not been a bipolar alcoholic perhaps...
This aged perfectly.
The relevancy of this video today is very important as to understand, how what’s happening in Afghanistan today started.
"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
Michformer 😭😢
I joined the Army in 2018, I am 18 years old, born in 2000. We now have soldiers coming in that were born after 9/11, but still fighting the same war that was started before they were born. Crazy to think about.
"History doesn't happen in chapters."
-Joel Mason, 2018
It dose, but chapter one ends in the middle of chapter 3 and chapter 2 dosen't start until the middle of chapter 16
And most recommend starting at chapter 6 and doubling back later
What a time to get this recommended.
"USA, USSR, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan.... What could go wrong?" - Asked a young Afghan kid.😑
Think if india joined
Unsurprisingly india would support USSR lOllllllllll
@@sangenan1 yeah so. What's wrong in that. American President Reagen and Nixon were absolutely Racist towards South Asian people.
@@surendrapatro7932 I STRONGLY SUPPORT USSR BECAUSE THEY HELPED US IN 1971
@@sangenan1 which country are you from? Vietnam??
@@surendrapatro7932 kolkata india lol
Afghanistan sure is the graveyard for empires for a reason....
Also! Do an episode about Ataturk!
Greece is better and will always be.
@Emmanuel Goldstein i think he meant better than turkey
joltcoaming true
@@joltcoaming353
Only thing greece does is get their ass saved by rich european nations lmao.
Emmanuel Goldstein that is more a matter of there is literally no way for the government to actually take them rather than that being the reason why they keep fighting back.
Most of these weapons are from this war and the US invasion lol
Thank you for including a clip of 1993, because a lot of people always forget that the trade center was attacked before 9/11. Also I knew that us funding the insurgents in the 80's causes 9/11 but I didn't think it was this deep all the way to the 60's.
migrate to Vladivostok city center,
safe from NATO, and good facilities like south korea
Cody sir. This video is OUTSTANDING. Ive referred many people to this channel because i love the content. Salute.
I'm so glad you paid homage to Ahmed Shah Massoud. The man was truly great and I highly recommend reading up on him to those who don't know.
Thatssosketchy I find it odd he was assassinated a couple weeks before 9-11.
Moto Play So you’re saying Pakistan killed him in attempt to take over Afghanistan?
Thatssosketchy He was a puppet of russian. He was against pahstuns my people so glad he died.
yes...He was truly a Lion of a man...his patriotism and humanitarian love for all Afghans is legendary
Billy Blob it was 2 days before 9/11
You skipped the Iranian revolution of 1979, which ousted the greatest USA ally in the Middle East. The USSR wouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan if the USA was literally next door.
All this would have been avoided if Marx was shot
Ron Niabati Puppet you mean not ally.
@@RAKITHA9 such a simplification of history.....
@@RAKITHA9 Engels: *allow me to introduce myself*
Good job on that one Jimmy Carter
Obama made up for it with the Arab Spring
Cant wait for the update video cody
It's actually really sad watching this now
Maybe their should be an edited bite away the end that said and it was all for nothing
CIA and Soviets: _laughs in metallic archea_
Oh, this is a realistic depiction. My bad.
A weapon to surpass metal gear
Boss get down it's an enemy chopper
Rest in Peace all the soviets I fultoned who died on Outer Heaven
@@struggler8532 i basically kidnapped the whole Red Army!
Unpopular Opinion:
Alternate history is fanfiction for history nerds
you'renot wrong tho
It's not untrue
"But the US never left..."
Well....
This video is so haunting, especially the beginning. This is easily one of your best videos, Cody.
In between the crossfire.
There's a mercenary with an eyepatch fighting a bipedal walker controlled by a psychokinesis child whome is working for a man whom literally called himself Skullface.
Kept you waiting, huh
While in his spare time he tranquilizes the Soviets there, kidnaps them with Fulton devices and sends them in some offshore marine platform near the Seychelles to be turned into mercenaries.
Ew furf@g
Oh look a pathetic grown as man furry
Yeah its like both people fightning for a last cookie
This is definitely my favourite video you've made, very well done! - Keep up the good work :D
What is being defied here?
I went into this somewhat weary and not knowing what to expect, but left impressed. This is fantastic work and I've learned a lot from it.
that is the best 90 seconds of visual storytelling i have seen in a long time. Bravo, brought up alot of feelings.
There's a grand sweeping lace and tangle of continuity of all events in history of all times. What follows is always influenced by what came before, from the small scale to the large. Realizing this is probably the most beautiful part about learning History, and watching this grand interconnected web we weave all fall into place. You can't really isolate one series of events from another, though many try as a teaching tool.
very good
I've waited years for you to make this video.
Im so happy you finally did, Cody you're doing fantastic work here. It was you and Indie who got me REALLY into history and wanting to read up on it myself. I thank you for being my history teacher all these years and helping to form my own research to do several college essays and research papers on concerning violence, war crimes, and historical based socioeconomic conflicts.
War: *exists*
Afghanistan: yes
Butterbean your profile pic is just amazing. Fredrick the great is the best
@im back or
Europe and Middle East : Yes
Well look at that. The yt recommendations algorithm has a sense of humour
This is the most history I think I've never been taught in my life that is so important that I should know it. Thank you for bringing this up, it's a huge perspective changer on everything. I had known bits of this in general, now I see I have a lot more to learn about.
'One of the most covert CIA operations (sic)....'
Had news coverage.
Wow. That intro going through the years, it was beautifully made, amazing work. Gave me chills
I appreciate this video Cody. Good food for thought and a great reminder that actions have consequences and all events have a cone of effect that intersect with other events that cause new events/consequences.