Well the pm and npc models aren't going to change but there will always be mods for those, and the weapon models with definitely change seeing as they are ripped straight from rust lol
i dont like how everything looks like a default unreal engine asset. the photographic textures of hl2 and cs:source add so much soul to gmod. i also dont like the lighting on the maps shown here but maybe its due to the maps instead of being the engines art style
@@ZenTauren Source engine was in development at the same time as Half-Life 2 since 1999 so its 23 years old. If you are THAT type of person that counts gold source and quake engine then it is 26 years old.
bruh give it a fucking chance to thrive and for people to do stuff with Sandbox before you say that. who knows, maybe it will end up being objectively better than GMOD one day. And maybe all the kids who are too young to care about GMOD will end up playing Sandbox because it's new and shiny 🤷🏻♂️
i’ve never noticed how important the thump sounds were when you were killed and your body hits the floor in gmod, until i saw how completely silent s&box was, it feels so off
S&Box looks good but we are just used to Gmod with Source/HL2 looks so we like Gmod more but I think S&Box can achieve great things such as VR with Source 2. I still like the good old Source look though
@@kaijuhunter_02VOD it works, but it performs pretty poorly on larger maps + a lot of features and interactions feel a but clunky. Still nice to have that mod though. But i think the new engine has a lot of potential. Looks, performance and features for native vr support.
S&box is pretty good for a game that is yet to release and probably won't until mid 2023 or later. Just hope people know that S&box is not a game that is finished and things can change in the process of it's development, and that Garry's Mod is basically a finished game.
I'd say late 2023 or early 2024, s&box needs a lot of polishing and that could take a good bit. Performance is horrible and considering how well optimized default Source 2 is it's slightly worrying, then again Garry has never been good with optimization so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.
@@redrafashiro they don't only allow modders, they just have a weird way of getting early access. I personally have access but I don't make any content for it.
Gonna differ from the hivemind of commenters saying Gmod is better (don’t worry, I have well over 7000 hours on it, I love the game) and say that I’m hopeful for what s&box will have to offer, especially with Gmod’s amazing modding community.
I agree, even though rn s&box is lacking in some technical ways compared to gmod, gotta keep in mind it's still in early development and I believe that at release it will be comparable to gmod and have more possibilities for modding
S&box looks bad since it doesnt have valve assets to use (Except HLA), also S&box will be easier to code mods, so it will get ultra-realism animations, weapons ripped from other games, huds, etc... Very fast when it comes out.
@@nnikitov57 Since S&box uses a more flexible and modern engine, its easier to do things like realistic cubemaps, larger maps, HD models, procedural generation, algorithyms, Directx 12 features like Ray tracing, etc...
The Source engine released with Counter Strike: Source, Half Life: Source and Half Life 2 in 2004. So no, it hasn't been going since the "really early" 2000s. Still one fuck of a longlasting engine though.
@@ThinkAboutVic Yea true I'm willing to bet it was in development for a while, that being said next year it will be 20 years old and it's still widely used.
To me it's clear that S&Box has a long way to go in the audio departament. But I know how it is in gamedev - audio comes last, even when it's often a make-or-break aspect of a game. I'd say 60% of HL2 atmosphere is sounds and music.
if you talk about playermodels its uderstandable because i dont think that source 2 engine cames with the hl2 npc, playermodels etc. if you are talking about gm_construct, you have a but but remember that s&box is not finished
I'm excited for what S&box has to offer in the future with the source 2 upgrade. I just wish it and the tools wasn't so exclusive still. Garry's mod by itself is fun but it's biggest strength is its community mods. Sandbox needs those if they want to really be Gmod2. And it really feels like they need more people with the mod tools in there to behind growing its future workshop so when it does come whenever it may be it can hit the ground running with a nice list of ready mods.
yeah pretty much what the other reply said and i'm sure Gary wants to make s&box great!, just give him and his team time to finish the game :> tho i will never defend the new default character, i really don't like it personally, but you can just change it
@@williscri yeah, you can google it, it's done by him and his studio "facepunch", which is why there's also things from Rust (yes garry's team also made rust) though i'm not sure if there are still assets from rust, i haven't kept up with s&box very closely in the last months, but if they wanted they could just put rust models since it's their own game
@@cheldardo the current rust assets are temporary and will be removed once new ones are made they tell u not to use them because they will be removed before the game launches.
Before we go hating on s&box because "all it has is graphics" remember, that the game is still in VERY EARLY stages, its not even open to the public yet.
By the time S&Box gets released in the future. It will spawn a new generation of machinima creators, the same way Gmod had spawned machinima creators back in the day.
@@CRT_YT the only good and somewhat popular roblox machinimas are the ones that use the extremely old n classic blocky R6s. Basically, same situation as Garry's Mod
@@dotdot5906 deleted what you were replying to because i dont know what i was blabbing about anyway, what are YOU blabbing about? get a new opinion this one sucks theres tons of great roblox animators that use r15
@@BucketIHead Hot take inbound. E or e or e or. Garry's Mod was only popular because of how early it was introduced to allow user generated content, as well as being easy to incorporate other loved games because it used source, so TF2. It's only continued to live on because competitors like Roblox were marketed towards children, and shit like secondLife was targeted towards fuckin' aliens or some shit. Now, nostalgia has wrapped around it like moss and weeds.
Knowing S&Box ins't planed to be like GMod (yes it uses the base concept), S&Box is meant to be a devtool like Unity or UE, also S&Box's Source 2 fork is in heavy development, we need to wait some more time to make a more fair comparison. I think S&Box would really start moving when Garry swaps Rubikon with Jolt physics or something else, so it would break free from the _Valve time_ XD
S&box needs sounds, toolguns, and character models that's similar in tone to gmod but enhanced, updated and original. Well character models are but sounds of the tools are a huge part of gmod. (Just saying)
Imagine if s&box had an option to turn on hl2 props, entities etc and turn off the realistic graphics - and once it fully releases to the public, I really do hope many people will make these kinds of addons - and I'm pretty sure the version of source 2 that s&box uses allows garry to update the engine :)
I’m really excited for s&box, and I can’t wait to play it and see what it has to offer (as long as you can change your playermodel in the final release. I hate those cartoon bean things)
Garry's mod and S&Box that game is interesting with the physics. The Garry's Mod is important game it was sponsored with comparison. Noclick, I really want this S&Box.
dude i cant wait the s&box since the coding is going to be so advanced for gamemodes that people are going to create amazing gamemodes without gmods limitations
In case people are concerned, sandbox is still in alpha/early beta. Sandbox is barely even complete, it's super buggy all around. I was able to get beta access and found that some game modes were super polished while others were bare bones. Keep that in mind as the game will likely not be released until very late next year.
Thank you. I see so many people saying shit like "woah gmod looks way better lmao this game is shit!" Who don't even know what's going on in the games development
@Freesmart gmod is one of the most popular sandbox games of all time and it's 18 years old. S&box is in beta and runs on the source2 engine (first official game made on source2 was Half Life Alyx in 2020)
I'm still interested in the development of S&Box's community and gamemodes in the future, speaking of someone who's played enough Gmod to want to never touch it again
The fact that the new and "improved" Hammer Editor requires an rtx card to render lighting is bewildering. Garry's Mod was such an easily available game, both in terms of creating content or just simply playing the game.. I can still create maps if I wanted on a 2011 PC for example. The Hammer Editor is an ancient garbage, but it can be used by nearly anyone. Sure it will take a lot longer on bad hardware, but you can still render the map without expensive hardware. What was valve thinking?
Imo, they should rename S&Box to Garry's Mod 2 to keep the hype and port all the Source 1 things + Source 2. It would be upgraded Garry's Mod with endless possibilities.
That's a bad idea The source assets are just half life 2 assets ans im not too sure how legal that is (dont quote me on this) Also I think they're very different engines judging from this video alone In the site itself it says that porting mods would require to rewrite code so I dont think thats possible Also Garry said that s&box wont be gmod 2 and he doesnt want it to be gmod 2
@@CloudyChair it would be just as legal as Garry's Mod afaik. If not Half-Life 2, Alyx models, if Valve allows for it. Judging from a few tutorials, porting things to Source 2 isn't that hard, S&Box still supports Lua as well. I get that he doesn't want a Garry's Mod 2, but Garry's Mod without the limitations of Source 1 would be a dream, why not take advantage of how well known Garry's Mod is? Otherwise it will take a miracle to surpass it.
Gmod is a janky game with an engine thats almost 2 decades old and has 2006 technology S&box is a game thats very early in development and runs in a wayyy newer engine and way newer technology
you can't even compare gmod and s&box, they're two completely different games released nearly 20 years apart, not to mention that s&box is still in development and the playermodels are a stylistic choice. graphics should not sway you my friend.
The biggest thing we all welcome is a better engine, better performance, less limits, better physics, potential fluid dynamics. And a more overhauled editor.
we will have to see about how they handle copyright infrigement because if they ignore it like gmod back in the days, but today, the game will not last long before it is taken down.
Oof, S&box looks horrible assets-wise, it's like a low quality Unity asset flip. Should've paid 30% and included Valve assets and just made a proper gmod sequel instead of a roblox clone
As a 6 year roblox player I can tell you s&box looks NOTHING like roblox Also if you had taken the time to do the littlest research you would've noticed that almost every asset is a placeholder BECAUSE ITS NOT IN ALPHA DTAGE YET
@@rogerphone481 yeah but at least use the props damn sure they could of used a character model too because that one is horrible. Human thumb from spy kids looking character.
@@stereotypical713 but just use hla asset even dota 2. Don't see why not unless legal issues no offense to Garry but even If I made asset I'll just use the ones already made by a triple a studio and have tons of polish. Just seem better from my viewpoint. Like im sure a lot of work went into his assets but it's just not gonna beat valves made assets and would look 10x better more people would look at it positivly
@@austin2774bro half life alyx models look like shit they're only meant to be seen from afar. alyx's model is dogshit compared to her half life 2 appearance. i think the props look great tho so you have a point there
The nextbots category I don’t think was serious but still it was a good demonstration for the Doppler effect Also the lights and colors on S&BOX definitely would’ve won if they weren’t colored randomly
What's the point of downplaying one game for the sake of another? They are both cool, considering that the second is still under development. I will never understand comments like this. (I used a translator, I apologize for inaccuracies)
Credit where credit is due, S&B box can hold a staggering amount of entities while not sacrificing in the graphics department. I'm positive that with a little more time it may be a better sandbox engine than gmod
It already is. It handles resizing better, unique models better and physics better. The only issues are with optimization's. One issue being Facepunch's foliage being not the best for FPS. There are just a few features that haven't been implemented yet, which aren't hard to create. Boosters for example are just ents that apply some velocity in a direction, with an effect in the opposite.
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Still amazed about what the source engine can achieve.
Source 2 is really cool
I've seen videos showcasing the breaking glass feature and IT IS GORGEOUS
@@CloudyChair its not even fully finished yet! so itll be pretty cool
This video was achieved with SORS
@@CloudyChairpretty sure theyre talking about source 1.
S&Box has Graphics, Gmod has personality.
Perfectly put.
Yes, but S&Box has the capabilities of Source 2, that is a BIG game changer for the community.
@@peluchefps Bet.
the personality is just the community
GMOD is the friends we made along the way.
GMod gives off such a feeling of craziness when you watch other people play it
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they somehow made the default pistol feel even more like a peashooter
Cuz gmod uses hl2 assets
also the game is in dev access which is even earlier than an alpha according to the devs
How powerful a weapon feels has a lot to do with it's sound design
At least it doesn't blast your ears everytime you shoot it *cough cough* gmod pistol
@@TV-MA.x_x. nah bro that's the smg
I'm still not over those Mr. Meaty-Fanboy & Chum Chum-lookin-ass playermodels in S&box.
just thankful u can change it theyre really ugly
Yeah seriously I'm hoping those get a change, they look so strange
considering how the games in early development i think the weird pill characters will be replaced as time goes on
Quit bitching you can always change the default model like gmod
Im glad custom PMs exist
The Jankiness of Gmod is what made it special
Tbh it wasn't that janky
@ReaperProductionsReal no it definitely isn't much janky
Agreed. Gmod forever.
@@Mr.PhoenixBlues2369 Oh boy, I assume you havent played much of it
@@rickishade7816 i have played it and no it's not that janky sure physics can be weird sometimes and all that but yeah
The only thing I don't like about S&BOX it's the npc models and pm models also the default weapons they give me a mobile ripoff vibes rest it's fine
Well the pm and npc models aren't going to change but there will always be mods for those, and the weapon models with definitely change seeing as they are ripped straight from rust lol
With the current way things are its really easy to change models to your liking and the weapons are placeholders from rust.
@@stereotypical713 Actually Facepunch (or Garry) just drop a version where you can choose between the S&box model or the human
@@extro1335 thank fuck they did. The new models are disgusting
i dont like how everything looks like a default unreal engine asset. the photographic textures of hl2 and cs:source add so much soul to gmod. i also dont like the lighting on the maps shown here but maybe its due to the maps instead of being the engines art style
Remember: S&Box IS NOT FINISHED. And regardless of what anyone says, both GMod and S&Box are just as great.
Valid, respectable, agreed.
you are anyone, opinion disregarded!
@@qua_xor3348 it uses source 2
I think the NPCs are scary. I don't like how they look. It freaks me out. Does a sandbox have to have such freaky NPCs?
@@qua_xor3348 s&box is literally Gmod's little bro as it runs on Valve's Source 2 engine
Conclusion: Source engine is awesome
i mean source engine was 15 years old and still looks good to these days
@@minicaco4973 18, or technically longer if you count early stages and the development.
Bro i cant do this anymore
@@ZenTauren Source engine was in development at the same time as Half-Life 2 since 1999 so its 23 years old. If you are THAT type of person that counts gold source and quake engine then it is 26 years old.
@@kolbergtuis2991 yeah, but let's keep it: first release 2004 = 18.
Source is old enough to drink.
Old fashioned Garry's Mod will be always the best.Even if something better will show up like S&BOX
i agree, gmod players will be considered OG in the s&box community in the future
@@lolekpllolekpl7560 they are already considered ogs because of how long gmod and the community has been around for
Bruh s&box is Not finished
@@alixandreenova8911 dont care
bruh give it a fucking chance to thrive and for people to do stuff with Sandbox before you say that. who knows, maybe it will end up being objectively better than GMOD one day. And maybe all the kids who are too young to care about GMOD will end up playing Sandbox because it's new and shiny 🤷🏻♂️
i’ve never noticed how important the thump sounds were when you were killed and your body hits the floor in gmod, until i saw how completely silent s&box was, it feels so off
S&Box looks good but we are just used to Gmod with Source/HL2 looks so we like Gmod more but I think S&Box can achieve great things such as VR with Source 2. I still like the good old Source look though
How do we tell him that GMod has a VR mod that actually works?
@@kaijuhunter_02VOD it works, but it performs pretty poorly on larger maps + a lot of features and interactions feel a but clunky.
Still nice to have that mod though. But i think the new engine has a lot of potential. Looks, performance and features for native vr support.
S&box is pretty good for a game that is yet to release and probably won't until mid 2023 or later.
Just hope people know that S&box is not a game that is finished and things can change in the process of it's development, and that Garry's Mod is basically a finished game.
On top of being finished gmod has a lot more comunnity suport and modding so S&box is gonna feel a bit barren at first
I'd say late 2023 or early 2024, s&box needs a lot of polishing and that could take a good bit. Performance is horrible and considering how well optimized default Source 2 is it's slightly worrying, then again Garry has never been good with optimization so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.
It's still odds me that they only allowed modders in and we still haven't seen much out of that decision
@@redrafashiro they don't only allow modders, they just have a weird way of getting early access. I personally have access but I don't make any content for it.
Gonna differ from the hivemind of commenters saying Gmod is better (don’t worry, I have well over 7000 hours on it, I love the game) and say that I’m hopeful for what s&box will have to offer, especially with Gmod’s amazing modding community.
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@@minicaco4973 ah hello Cacodemon
I agree, even though rn s&box is lacking in some technical ways compared to gmod, gotta keep in mind it's still in early development and I believe that at release it will be comparable to gmod and have more possibilities for modding
@@rusland9 a hopeful mindset is a good mindset 😌
Excited to see how modders are gonna make "S&box realism" in a few years
dear lord
it would probably look better
"local dumbass dies after download 45787 S&Box realism mods and confusing reality for S&box" is what you want?
I think it would be a bit hard seeing how the player models look like the rabbids
Or find a way to mod the half life npc in
S&box looks bad since it doesnt have valve assets to use (Except HLA), also S&box will be easier to code mods, so it will get ultra-realism animations, weapons ripped from other games, huds, etc... Very fast when it comes out.
It mostly looks bad becauee its not even alpha yet
@@CloudyChair well we still have a long wait ahead of us
@@InsertName159 sure do
Can you explain why S&box will be easier to code mods?
@@nnikitov57 Since S&box uses a more flexible and modern engine, its easier to do things like realistic cubemaps, larger maps, HD models, procedural generation, algorithyms, Directx 12 features like Ray tracing, etc...
Gmod is the original sandbox, the one we all love. Sandbox is just its younger brother
@vari_ares_ytp6522 No, just more realistic and gmod don't need to be realistic
Original source has been going since the really early 2000s and its STILL being used daily. That's how good it is.
The Source engine released with Counter Strike: Source, Half Life: Source and Half Life 2 in 2004. So no, it hasn't been going since the "really early" 2000s.
Still one fuck of a longlasting engine though.
@@ThinkAboutVic Yea true I'm willing to bet it was in development for a while, that being said next year it will be 20 years old and it's still widely used.
@@ThinkAboutVic I would count 2004 as the really early 2000s
with no alternative, it's pretty easy to conclude it's because it's good
@@aether3395 there's unity, ue, godot, lots of alternatives
No way you can run s&box construct at 60fps
my PC is still crying
im excited to see how s&box is gonna turn out, i just hope they'll add some more realistic playermodels and npc's though.
To me it's clear that S&Box has a long way to go in the audio departament. But I know how it is in gamedev - audio comes last, even when it's often a make-or-break aspect of a game.
I'd say 60% of HL2 atmosphere is sounds and music.
Nothing can match the Iconicness of the Gmod physgun, no matter how realistic the physics are
amazed by how much s&box missed the mark for what made gmod special
if you talk about playermodels its uderstandable because i dont think that source 2 engine cames with the hl2 npc, playermodels etc.
if you are talking about gm_construct, you have a but but remember that s&box is not finished
@@LuckyEmpty to be fair, gm_construct is gonna be the first map to get added on release. There’s probably already a billion construct maps for it
yeah, s&box just seems very boring to me
Fr, imma miss my game crashing to the desktop for spawning an addon or replacing my explosions with red X’s because of how outdated the engine is
@@Lidoe wait, which explosions would get replaced with red Xs?
I'm excited for what S&box has to offer in the future with the source 2 upgrade. I just wish it and the tools wasn't so exclusive still. Garry's mod by itself is fun but it's biggest strength is its community mods. Sandbox needs those if they want to really be Gmod2. And it really feels like they need more people with the mod tools in there to behind growing its future workshop so when it does come whenever it may be it can hit the ground running with a nice list of ready mods.
Don't worry, there will definitely be a texture addon that brings old models, sounds and textures, I just can feel it
There already is
wtf?????
GMod almost has more soul put into it, all those sounds for every event, the animations, and the toolgun looks better
99% of it was half life 2 assets and s&box is not a finished game
yeah pretty much what the other reply said
and i'm sure Gary wants to make s&box great!, just give him and his team time to finish the game :>
tho i will never defend the new default character, i really don't like it personally, but you can just change it
@@cheldardo Garry made both of them?
@@williscri yeah, you can google it, it's done by him and his studio "facepunch", which is why there's also things from Rust (yes garry's team also made rust)
though i'm not sure if there are still assets from rust, i haven't kept up with s&box very closely in the last months, but if they wanted they could just put rust models since it's their own game
@@cheldardo the current rust assets are temporary and will be removed once new ones are made they tell u not to use them because they will be removed before the game launches.
Before we go hating on s&box because "all it has is graphics" remember, that the game is still in VERY EARLY stages, its not even open to the public yet.
By the time S&Box gets released in the future. It will spawn a new generation of machinima creators, the same way Gmod had spawned machinima creators back in the day.
I doubt it'll be as iconic as Garry's Mod though
Yeah probably not
@@CRT_YT the only good and somewhat popular roblox machinimas are the ones that use the extremely old n classic blocky R6s. Basically, same situation as Garry's Mod
@@dotdot5906 deleted what you were replying to because i dont know what i was blabbing about
anyway, what are YOU blabbing about? get a new opinion this one sucks theres tons of great roblox animators that use r15
@@BucketIHead Hot take inbound. E or e or e or. Garry's Mod was only popular because of how early it was introduced to allow user generated content, as well as being easy to incorporate other loved games because it used source, so TF2. It's only continued to live on because competitors like Roblox were marketed towards children, and shit like secondLife was targeted towards fuckin' aliens or some shit. Now, nostalgia has wrapped around it like moss and weeds.
and yes if you see npcs in the half life game actually have a combat mode before getting back to relax mode which only hapens when they get shot
S&box has a long way to go if it really wants to be Gmod 2
It doesn't want to be GMod 2. It's its own thing.
Knowing S&Box ins't planed to be like GMod (yes it uses the base concept), S&Box is meant to be a devtool like Unity or UE, also S&Box's Source 2 fork is in heavy development, we need to wait some more time to make a more fair comparison.
I think S&Box would really start moving when Garry swaps Rubikon with Jolt physics or something else, so it would break free from the _Valve time_ XD
i like devtools but sadly S&box likes to be greedy but also NO GAME FOR U LIKE THE KEY SAYS "Developer Torture Service"
@@BSPLASH0 ???
I legitimately hope with time s&box can live up to the craziness and fun that made gmod special
I am impressed GMOD 2's nextbot.
Ayoo iiscny,guys theres iiscny in here
gmod 2? where's gmod 2?
Gmod 2...? Bad joke
Not gmod 2
Bro's everywhere.
“Ok, you can copy my homework just don’t make it obvious.”
S&Box:
s&box is made by the same guys that made garry’s mod
S&box needs sounds, toolguns, and character models that's similar in tone to gmod but enhanced, updated and original. Well character models are but sounds of the tools are a huge part of gmod. (Just saying)
Imagine if s&box had an option to turn on hl2 props, entities etc and turn off the realistic graphics - and once it fully releases to the public, I really do hope many people will make these kinds of addons - and I'm pretty sure the version of source 2 that s&box uses allows garry to update the engine :)
I’m really excited for s&box, and I can’t wait to play it and see what it has to offer (as long as you can change your playermodel in the final release. I hate those cartoon bean things)
You can swap them for humans in a new update
Just for reference, S&Box doesn't have a finished or really "built-in" sandbox mode due to not wanting to be "GMod 2"
S&box se ve muy bien, esperemos que en la version completa y abierta al público se vea aun mejor, pero gmod siempre sera el mejor
Dale una oportunidad
@@CloudyChair quisiera, estoy esperando desde que lo anunciaron porque quiero jugarlo y no he tenido acceso anticipado
Note that S&Box is still in very early development and nowhere near finished at the moment.
Garry's mod and S&Box that game is interesting with the physics. The Garry's Mod is important game it was sponsored with comparison. Noclick, I really want this S&Box.
dude i cant wait the s&box since the coding is going to be so advanced for gamemodes that people are going to create amazing gamemodes without gmods limitations
I prefer gmod, its graphics gives it a charm
on real chads prefer gmod than this shit icl
In case people are concerned, sandbox is still in alpha/early beta. Sandbox is barely even complete, it's super buggy all around. I was able to get beta access and found that some game modes were super polished while others were bare bones. Keep that in mind as the game will likely not be released until very late next year.
Thank you. I see so many people saying shit like "woah gmod looks way better lmao this game is shit!" Who don't even know what's going on in the games development
It seems to me that Garry's mod will always be a legendary game like Half Life, S&box somehow cartoon.
S&box looks like one of those weird gmod clones on the app store
One thing I’m sort of excited for is the bigger maps.
S&box's map looks so British with the arrow sign poles, the Betfred parody logo and even the ADT bellbox!
im not sure if that map is made by facepunch but, they are located in the united kingdom
@@joeyvg07 another government shill npc thinking british people are real lol
It’s a bit silly to compare these two things. S&box is far more different than gmod in almost every way.
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@Freesmart gmod is one of the most popular sandbox games of all time and it's 18 years old. S&box is in beta and runs on the source2 engine (first official game made on source2 was Half Life Alyx in 2020)
@@rogerphone481 it was artifact.
@FreesmartChannel I mean engine wise, the source and source 2 engine work **very** differently. No doubt there in the same genre haha
@@agrastiOs FUCK my bad but artifiact sucks ass so my point still stands
S&box needs it's own source of origin and charm and then it'll be on it's way.
This is literally me when I’m mad: 0:26
Gmod has a good name, S&Box sounds like it was conceived by a crypto bro.
the next bot in s&box is looking 3d
3D = Dare-i-say Decently Delicious
I don't doubt that s&box will be great, but it'll be hard to make a legacy like gmod has.
Gmod Has Male07
S&Box has no Male07
I think we can all see who the victor is.
Clearly it's Roblox.
I'm still interested in the development of S&Box's community and gamemodes in the future, speaking of someone who's played enough Gmod to want to never touch it again
thank god there is a video untouched by nmrih is a great source mod
you mean that guy with CORY'S picture?
The fact that the new and "improved" Hammer Editor requires an rtx card to render lighting is bewildering. Garry's Mod was such an easily available game, both in terms of creating content or just simply playing the game.. I can still create maps if I wanted on a 2011 PC for example. The Hammer Editor is an ancient garbage, but it can be used by nearly anyone. Sure it will take a lot longer on bad hardware, but you can still render the map without expensive hardware. What was valve thinking?
The one for nextbots kinda pisses me off because you showed only one kind of nextbot and it was the possibly the worst kind
It cant only just be me who dislikes the s&box playermodel designs?
No Problemos 🤙
I like to imagine that Garry's Mod is the source playground, and S&Box is the source 2 playground.
Imo, they should rename S&Box to Garry's Mod 2 to keep the hype and port all the Source 1 things + Source 2. It would be upgraded Garry's Mod with endless possibilities.
That's a bad idea
The source assets are just half life 2 assets ans im not too sure how legal that is (dont quote me on this)
Also I think they're very different engines judging from this video alone
In the site itself it says that porting mods would require to rewrite code so I dont think thats possible
Also Garry said that s&box wont be gmod 2 and he doesnt want it to be gmod 2
@@CloudyChair it would be just as legal as Garry's Mod afaik. If not Half-Life 2, Alyx models, if Valve allows for it. Judging from a few tutorials, porting things to Source 2 isn't that hard, S&Box still supports Lua as well. I get that he doesn't want a Garry's Mod 2, but Garry's Mod without the limitations of Source 1 would be a dream, why not take advantage of how well known Garry's Mod is? Otherwise it will take a miracle to surpass it.
@@ZenTauren Garry said it’s not going to be gmod 2
@@benl4d2shortsanims I know, but it would probably be the best for it.
Gmod’s basic physics and destruction seems better to me. Even the particles. Altough graphics are more advanced on s&box
Conclusion: Both are amazing.
unbased opinion
1:32 Imagine Obunga here... 👀
Gmod still OG.
S&BOX is dreaming to be like his older brother.
But will never be, because gmod has something special about it: HL2 assets, as well as special source engine atmosphere
@@Protog3n_pd2 Isn't S&Box on Source 2?
@@Protog3n_pd2 the game is beta
@@Gmodfan750 as I know, it uses either source 2 or unreal Engine 4
@@Protog3n_pd2 source 2
Why does it feel like Gmod and the genre of Gmod games should just be an SCP or something
if Gmod's sequels are released, they can't beat Gmod
Gmod is a janky game with an engine thats almost 2 decades old and has 2006 technology
S&box is a game thats very early in development and runs in a wayyy newer engine and way newer technology
@@CloudyChair I think they mean the feel and jankiness of gmod that made it popular
I wish they just had GMOD implemented into source2 instead of a whole new game. They have the rights to use assets after all
S&Box feels soulless for some reason. Garry's Mod for the win
It feels like one of those bootleg mobile 'ports'
@@jackpijjin4088 especially the player models
@@jackpijjin4088 THATS WHAT IM SAYING
you can't even compare gmod and s&box, they're two completely different games released nearly 20 years apart, not to mention that s&box is still in development and the playermodels are a stylistic choice. graphics should not sway you my friend.
@@rogerphone481 Nah i still think Garry's Mod looks good while S&Box looks like one of those fake games you see characters in movies play
it will never be better than garrys mod
*Garry's Mod is Legend 👑*
The undisputed king of Sandbox games. 🤴
S&Box is legend
@@benl4d2shortsanims s&box is a 🗑️
Garbage? you haven't even played it yet
dude, s&Box is still in development. People like you are exactly the reason why games suck nowadays.
The biggest thing we all welcome is a better engine, better performance, less limits, better physics, potential fluid dynamics.
And a more overhauled editor.
There is no competition, Gmod is better no matter what
Edit:i saw the replies and its safe to say i am a bit bias
Bffr
Pfft no
we will have to see about how they handle copyright infrigement because if they ignore it like gmod back in the days, but today, the game will not last long before it is taken down.
that pistol is just too soft man
gmod is my childhood s&box is gmod for next generations
S&Box looks so ugly honestly compared to Gmod. Gmod has such a unique and nice look to it
Personally, if I'm able to load my Half-Life assets into the game and make myself not look like a hot-dog fetus, then I'm all for it.
First one is already possible with mods, second one is possible without mods
Oof, S&box looks horrible assets-wise, it's like a low quality Unity asset flip. Should've paid 30% and included Valve assets and just made a proper gmod sequel instead of a roblox clone
As a 6 year roblox player I can tell you s&box looks NOTHING like roblox
Also if you had taken the time to do the littlest research you would've noticed that almost every asset is a placeholder BECAUSE ITS NOT IN ALPHA DTAGE YET
@@CloudyChair Lmao it's not in alpha stage, I have access.
@@SnrubSource S&Box is objectively better
@@benl4d2shortsanims Not really
The source jankiness is what makes gmod special.
why didnt they use base hlA assets not the the garabge they are using
they're all placeholder assets, alyx doesn't have any actual weapons anyway.
@@rogerphone481 yeah but at least use the props damn sure they could of used a character model too because that one is horrible. Human thumb from spy kids looking character.
It's source 2 and not many games are made in source 2 except rust and hla
@@stereotypical713 but just use hla asset even dota 2. Don't see why not unless legal issues no offense to Garry but even If I made asset I'll just use the ones already made by a triple a studio and have tons of polish. Just seem better from my viewpoint. Like im sure a lot of work went into his assets but it's just not gonna beat valves made assets and would look 10x better more people would look at it positivly
@@austin2774bro half life alyx models look like shit they're only meant to be seen from afar. alyx's model is dogshit compared to her half life 2 appearance. i think the props look great tho so you have a point there
The era is gone, but we will not forget our origins
Is it me, but does Source look a little better?
Well S&box has no half life game to get its assets from, so it uses placeholders.
well yeah, of course it does. gmod has been getting updates for over a decade now and s&box is still in development
@@raiogelato6921 half life alyx is on source 2
The nextbots category I don’t think was serious but still it was a good demonstration for the Doppler effect
Also the lights and colors on S&BOX definitely would’ve won if they weren’t colored randomly
Gmod is 100% better s&box is fucking horrible
you can't make judgements on it, it's still in development. wait until it's actually publicly avaliable pls
Bro S&box ain't even come out yet what the fuck is your problem lmao
What's the point of downplaying one game for the sake of another? They are both cool, considering that the second is still under development. I will never understand comments like this. (I used a translator, I apologize for inaccuracies)
@@reduxmod4044 i agree with you heavily.
@@rogerphone481 big thanks :)
I can't even imagine what a beast could appear if we fuse Gmod with S&Box
What made gmod special was the creepiness, janky physics, and half life stuff, s&box probably has none of those.
Gmod - wood
S&box - plastic
can't explain why I feel like that
Both look great, but obviously neither of them even compare to the far superior chad of a game, JBmod.
when sandbox releases im gonna keep playing gmod because the jankyness makes it great in the first place
where are all the sound effects in s&box? it doesn't feel the same without (for example) the toolgun's DADADADA
BRING BACK THE OLD SFX
Agree
they can’t
s&box is in development it's not the time for comparations.
S&box is like a Unity asset dump.
1:32 sorry internet, I found this one funnier. It looks like big bust Saul just pushes the player to the floor, only to show his superiority
tbh bro you should of waited till s&box is actually finished, its way too early for this, but either way gmod will still remain king.
Credit where credit is due, S&B box can hold a staggering amount of entities while not sacrificing in the graphics department. I'm positive that with a little more time it may be a better sandbox engine than gmod
It already is. It handles resizing better, unique models better and physics better. The only issues are with optimization's. One issue being Facepunch's foliage being not the best for FPS.
There are just a few features that haven't been implemented yet, which aren't hard to create. Boosters for example are just ents that apply some velocity in a direction, with an effect in the opposite.
Gmod is still one of the best games i've ever seen.
Garrys Mod isn't gatekeeped unlike S&box
S&box isnt in alpha yet tf r u on
how is it "gatekeeped"??