How to check for a meniscus tear? 3 Tests specialists use.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video Prof. Bellemans explains the 3 tests he uses to detect meniscus tears.
00:00 3 best tests to check for a meniscus tear
00:39 Meniscus point tenderness
02:58 Hyperflexion-rotation a.k.a McMurray test
03:51 "Duck walk" test
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Finally. After watching at least a dozen videos trying to determine if I have a torn meniscus or ACL, this video, with three simple tests, definitely confirmed it's a meniscus tear. I never had any swelling or clicking/popping sounds as mentioned in other videos and I never was pressing hard enough as mentioned in this videio to feel any pain. I can do body weight squats w/o hardly any pain but going up, and especially down, stairs is painful and the duck walk is impossible for me to do. Now, the question is: What can I do about it?
You should go see a doctor, most likely he'll tell you to do a MRI.
Helped me alot. Good explanation. Told me what my doctor hasn't. Thanks.
Thank you professor, you explained it very well. All my tests are negative, what a relief.
You knowledge is a true blessing to the mankind! Please keep it sharing and showering Sir!
So well explained. Thanks.
Brilliant video, this helped me a lot!
Thank you so much! Excellent, straight to the point video.
Very well explained
excellent video
Thanks doctor for the great channel, and how can treat the problem of meniscus tear plz??
Hi Doc I think I have LATERAL MINISCUS so the pain has been for 7 days already. What should I do next? Should I wait 4 weeks to heal or do the MRI test already? Of all the videos I've seen this one is the most accurate one, easy to understand and it helped me a lot. Automatic subscribed!
Thankyou professor and Please give the remedies and solutions for MCL tear to heal at the earliest.
Thank you for the informative video. This has helped greatly. I injured my knee playing basketball @ 18 years of age. I am now 38. And, I am still having issues
Thank you for these great videos. However, being an active athlete in my 70's, with PF partial knee replacements, I can't do something like the duck walk without pain on my best days (and have been told by my surgeon not to try such things). Perhaps some contraindications would help for us older ones.
Amazing video, with this i could diagnose myself that the issue is with menuscus. So i am assuming rest should heal it
Thank you Professor, please is it possible to get the English version of the Book ? Thanks
I was just a bit suspicious but after kneeling down to do the "duck walk" test, I got extreme knee pain whole day long. I think you just gave me meniscus damage. Thank you... My doctor did warn me not to kneel down like that but I trusted you.. Damn it.........
Omg same kind of stuff happen to me when I did Thessaly test
How are you now ?
How are you now?
@@vinis2414 took me like to months to heal from the damage this vid gave me. And I've been working to strengthen my upper legs everyday so my knee has less pressure while walking biking etc. I'm still feeling veeery slight pain on my right knee but I'm much better
@@Narcostic ohh did you got mri wats you age ?
What's the proper time after an injury to try those tests?
Is there a specific type of knee brace that will help ease the pain?
All of these killed me with pain!!!!!! I screamed with the slightest push
Very well explain, what if somebody has undergone a surgery of meniscus repair? Is these symptoms are still applicable to check meniscus tear??
I had a knee injury few years ago playing basketball. Did all tree tests just now and only the second test hurts. However three days ago all three tests were painful and I have been resting the knee since (for past few days). Since the injury, knee pain comes back every now and then, depending on activities I make. I was able to run some time after the injury, however lately running has been painfull. What shall I make of it?
Doctor can you tell me after how many days of injury we need to do these 3 tests?
I injured my knee while crawling on hard surface yesterday. Intense pain without popping or locking. I could bend and straighten knee but weight baring while knee slightly bent forward an inch is very painful, unable to walk due to it. I have full range of motion without pain, I can bend knee up to chest and lower without any pain. I can twist legs sideways, no pain. The only pain I feel is when I'm standing and bend the knee forward (Slightly lower myself) an inch, that's when pain appears. If I continue the bending further, it goes away. I could squat in position and raise back up without pain, except that one spot as I slightly bend the knee about an inch while baring weight (this move does not hurt if I do it while in bed). When I palp with my thumb at inner side of knee, about an inch or so away from knee as shown in your video where bones meet next to the soft spot, I feel pain as I push deep, this is the only test that hurts. What do you thing? sounds like a tear? If not better by tomorrow I shall go to a doctor. Thank you for your video!
Hello, I think I am having a similar situation as yours. I hope you're doing good & it recovered. How much time did it take?
Nice sir i love this channel salute doctor
can a tear on posterior medial meniscus trigger same pain point (anterior medial side) as shown in 1:52 , or a posterior pain point be located slightly posterior
reason for asking, i have exact pain point, and MRI shows posterior tear on medial side (horizontal tear)
I'm having same issues what is the solution? Operation or physiotherapy
So what should i do again ?
I have only the last one "duck walk) or sittings in a position similar
And it's painful for a lot after it
That duck walk looks like something you would want to do to tear your meniscus. How many people above 50 would be able to safely duck walk without at least some kind of discomfort or risk of injury? I have learned my lesson following some stupid YT robot man shoulder exercise on my perfectly fine shoulder, now I still have some soreness 1 year later.
SC, Im with you on that. lol
1st time feels like humanity still exist (0.0000001%).
I started running for a week on the trend mill and both knees hurt in the medial collateral ligament. If I walk for more than 5 minutes they hurt and get hot and swallen and I need to take anti inflammatory pill for the pain to stop. I also use ice and ice spray. When I relax the pain decreases a lot but if I stand up for a while and walk a little bit both knees hurt. Also when I wake in the morning and stand up my knees hurt.
If all these test are positive and mri comes normal finding what should be done?
Doctor! It was a rupture of the inner root of the meniscus, but the root part became fibrous and healed naturally. Please research this area as well!
Sounds like my problem. Just bending the knee often feels sore and pushing against the soft part in that area brings sensation. Just sitting on bed with knees bent soon brings discomfort to the knee. I haven't tried the duck walk (squats alone make me feel it) or the hyperflexion test on my own, but it looks like this is my issue. Been having it for over 2 months now. What is the treatment?
Most likely surgery
@@hunter30432 no longer having the problem now, no surgery done. Probably just careful moving around and time needed to heal. But I have been put on biologics, for a more complex condition.
Hi very useful. I have this pain exactly at the same place as you said.
I have this for 1 year now.
Advice treatment
I have pain that feels like just in the middle of my knee when I duck walk of do hyperflexion-rotation test. Do you have any idea what is it? pain 4/10
had a surgery but still after 6 months the test are positive
I wonder if the ''duck walk'' would eventually worsen the meniscus e.g. from 1st degree to higher degrees of damage...Would it?
if there is a meniscus tear, is it compulsory to go through an arthroscopic surgery?
My knee is now in the 4 week now
Sir my
all testes are positive but i feel pain during running I already mri reports also normal but my pain not gone what can I do for this pain please help me
negative/positive/positive. I will wait and see. This was great .Thank you. I was too long on the pickle ball court too many days in a row. I might get away with some bruising or tiny tear i think. It is the end of the day 50 hours after injury so my duck walk was fairly short. I dont need to do four to know i have pain.....but still-you probably are the cause of my injury? You will be hearing from my lawyers. No wait I'm Canadian, we dont sue people who try to help us for free. hahahaha. thanks for your video.
hows your recovery?
The issue I had was fluid build up during the injury so couldn’t tell where the injury was. Rest for a month or two almost treat it like a broken leg ( keep weight off and avoid flexing). If not see your doctor
I'm in pain just looking at that list.
Well sounds like I have a problem all three of those hurts me
My one knee locks up when I try to stretch
If you have the Meniscus tear what happens
I tested positive on all 3. I can't do the duck walk. However when asking my doctor for an MRI scan I was denied. Apparently I don't qualify as my situation is not ' urgent enough '. Makes me bloody angry.
They have broken the shin and patched across to cause the lump. I have the same bro
There is no way I could do a duck walk. Honestly if you can do that I really don't think there's much wrong with your knees 😂
I have done these tests by myself. Its all negative. I have also did mri which is also clear. But i have pain on that place when i stretch my leg to fully 180 degree.
The pain is starting from 140 upto 180 degree.
Mean when i am walking then i feel pain because on that time the leg stretching in 140 180 degree range.
Note: Carrying load doesnt effect the pain.
damn i can’t bend my knee what’s so ever i can’t even walk without a very severe limp and forget about that crawling walk had a mri getting results tomorrow i’m worried it’s a bad tear
I've had 2 meniscus tears. Hella pain..If a Dr. put me threw that I'd scream then punch him.
At the same time or were they two different times when you toured them?
@@DIYRealestatematchmaker 5 years ago the right, 6 weeks ago the left. Not fun I'll tell you. 😔
@@muse7746 I feel you man I got a menisectomy 1 yr ago on my lateral meniscus and slowly been increasing the intensity of my training and now I feel like I tweak something on the medial meniscus side hopefully i didn’t tear it also.
I was a very depressed state a yr ago don’t want to go to that point again lol 😭
How did you tear it?
@@DIYRealestatematchmaker Sorry you had that tear. Its awful. 😭 My right knee/ medial meniscus was torn when I picked up a bag of dirt from the back of my SUV. (yard planting) I lifted, turned my upper body without also turning my legs. That did it! I ended up with stress fx of tibia and medial meniscus torn all the way down to the root. Talk about pain. 😭 5 weeks ago, I was Spring cleaning, I lifted a picture off my fireplace mantle- not that heavy - but I repeated the same motion as last time. I lifted the picture (xLarge ) twisted upper body, not my legs and bang! It happened again on left knee/leg! 😭🥺Can't walk now except a few steps.👩🦼 Having a power chair delivered. I also cracked my patela. 😲 So I won't be lifting pictures or bags of dirt again. Lots of swelling & pain set in... I will have to just heal the best I can. But staying home watching TV all day gets old fast. A power chair will help me get around. I should mention the 1st tear happened 5 yrs ago.
@@muse7746 hang it there we’ll get Thru this! 😃
wow, 3 simple tests with 100% sensitivity and specificity! LOL. no way. A ton of people performing these tests at home will think they have meniscus tears when in fact they have chondromalacia . What about the tests for the anterior horn of the mensicus? Hyperflexion will not affect those.
Yep. I have a tear. Confirmed. All 3. Go 20 more years with it?
The goodlege is in pane
The Duck Walk test looks like an absolute disaster waiting to happen ! That could easily cause futher damage to the knee joint .
Oh I m Positive 🙄
I cant do a duck walk, i can barely get up off the couch..
Duck walk is easy ? 😂 I can't bend either of my knees low enough !
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Evidence??? There are MANY possible false positives with all 3 of these tests. For example a moderate effusion for any reason will be painful with full flexion during Duck Walk or simple bending and joint space tenderness could be coronary lig, MCL or just from the effusion that the patient can't differentiate.
If all the doctors will be like you in the first instance, there will be far fewer people in pain and healed as soon as possible, but unfortunately, most of them are afraid to do their job properly. I don't get it, they just prolong your pain for more than 15 or 20 years in some cases, giving you painkillers till knee replacement comes. Of course, after you reach the age of 65.
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This is useless video, all the test failed but MRI showed it and than my surgery confirmed it as well.
when i was playing football my right leg got twisted outside and after that whenever i hit the football, or simply jump, run it hurts in outerside of my knee. and it is paining from a week. first two tests are positive but in 3rd test very less pain🥲🥲🥲
Could be also knee ligament Injury (LCL)