The Big Story: Origins of Religion
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Sources:
The Forest People, by Colin M Turnbull, 1961
The Old Way: A Story of the First People, by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas, 2006
The Evolution of God, by Robert Wright, 2009
Additional Reading:
"Evolutionary origin of religions," Wikipedia
The Dawn of Belief: Religon in the Upper Paleolithic of Southwestern Europe, Chapters 4~7, by D Bruce Dickson, 1990
The Elementary Forms of Religious Life, by Émile Durkheim, 1915
Script adapted from here:
www.macrohistory.com/h1/ch00.htm
Narrator:
www.matthewkendrick.com/
Soundtrack:
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Faith never give you answers, it makes you stop questioning
faith give a positive feeling to humans no matter what do you believe in
and because of their feelings they think they doing right or wrong
but the question humans have to ask them selves is how do i know that ideas or thoughts makes me feel good and comfortable are
correct in reality.
@@angryyoungman66 No, people need to understand that right and wrong are concepts created by humans. There are no morals, because morals are all concepts created by humans. The Universe has no morals, there's no right or wrong. But if we're living in a civilized society, I know not to kill someone because that's a social norm not because God told me not to.
@@ryderwashington4199
any way we agree that we humans based on our point of view to world we created the morals the good and bad meanings it didn't came from God or something else.
But I faith in questioning
True...
And then leaders discovered that they can control other people with religion. Nothing was more effective and powerful to make people do what the leaders wanted than saying "God told me that you should do that". So religion grew big and organised.
+Jeong-hun Sin I know right! Not it's just time to find this secret formula that's going to make their empire collapse in their own disgust they created for greed and what ever (if bad).
Well that didn't make the first christians more powerful against jewish leaders and Rome.
+Jeong-hun Sin
And than it was banned by leaders and replaced it with personality cults and nationalism which was in a sense a cult to the nation state. And while one could not prove the existence of god or gods, its hard to argue against the idea of a nation state.
And than we learned religion isn't the only tool of control.
+DarkArtistKaiser , Fear is at the base of both the nation state and religion.
Then someone discovered that people would give money to earn their way into the mythical heaven, and religion solidified its hold.
You forgot the part where the caveman ate magic mushrooms and saw some funky magic shit while tripping out and thought he discovered the gods.
Monkeys get high and elephants i forget the name of the leafs
The fact Earth gives us shrooms is enough to make me believe the Earth is God, mother nature.
@@PhylumVertebrae Thank You
Exactly
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It's so refreshing to see a video where the subtitles not only match the audio, but are also correctly punctuated. Great job!
To every religious soul out there:
BIBLE (KJV)
John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The way I see it, religion started to try to explain what people couldn't yet answer. Why did the sun rise and set? Why does it rain? Why do we die?
Today religion is still used to try to answer the questions we can't answer. Why are we here? What's our purpose in this world? What happens after death?
+Collin “Ser Buckman” Buckman true... i'm a Christian
Lynard Ramos Same here
+Collin “Ser Buckman” Buckman That's a good way of thinking however RELIGION (some/most) try to overwrite answeres we have already found for the sake of valadity of their religion. What a joke.. :(
Collin Buckman
I agree but as science has progressed the god of the gaps has gotten smaller and smaller and maybe one day there will be no gap.
Still doesn't make it right. If you ask a scientist something that's not answered by science yet would you rather he answered "don't know" and give plausible possibilities instead or he makes up some answer that's not based on reality at all? I prefer the first. It's not wise to make up an answer it's much better if you're just honest. Just say "I don't know" when you don't know. Unfortunately the majority of people don't work like this they'd rather be fed sweet lies.
Who else tried to wipe the smudge off their screen
Bored Troll lmao.
hahaha me too
Me
oh my fukk!!! bastards.. made me believe in the almighty smudge
haha I thought i was the only one :D
Wow! This is wonderfully done great job. I really like the style of this
I did really like the video, but I think you should make a part 2. Modern Religion should definitely be covered as well, since it is the most influential
What the hell is Modern Religion?
@@donaldmjbart-williams3144 Religions that come with huge amount of Theology with holy scriptures and so on like Christianity and Islam
@@eliassius6945 yeah but modern would be saying it rose today. Christianity and all other major religions are old asf
@@beepboop8484 i mean when you compare a religion from 2k years ago to religions from 10s of thousands of years ago, they don't sound that old.
for example the time between the building of the pyramids and Cleopatra is more than the time between us and Jesus
@@donaldmjbart-williams3144 Wokeism is a modern religion gaining a fast and devout following, it even attempted an inquisition in Qatar but most people were just interested in watching some Football. You could also call LDS, scientology and many other modern.
As an athiest I can definitely respect the origin of religion and at a time where we simply could not prove one way or another; their stories answered their questions, gave them hope, even answering things that we will never know (namely death). However we have grown up significantly and everyone should question their beliefs, their origins and see if you discover that what you have always believed doesn't quite fit, make sense or seems very out-dated.
What do you believe?
But believing everything comes from nothing is pure stupidity.
A lot of the bible is proven fact , and Jesus did exist , as did all his Disciples ,
@@abubkrshyk thats true but like I haven't seen anyone believe something came out from nothing, if you're talking about the big bang no scientist ever said the big bang comes from nothing they are literally dont know and also I can also say God came from nothing and the universe is eternal and has always existed
As an atheist you should probably question your own belief that the universe popped into existence out of nothing with no first cause.
"The imagination of those who had biological potential for genius and those of 'normal' intelligence were limited by their culture"
I see that a lot within that which you call "modern society".
Culture is also what provided you internet to comment this sort of bs.
@@gama9980 Hello to you too!
So true Enrique. The ones who proved themselves more adept at doing things, coming up with better strategies for the hunt or what have, keener senses that the others came to trust and rely on more, etc. Those more gifted than the average at this stage were most likely able to demonstrate their elevated skills and intelligence and have such be more readily accepted than is the case in modern times. I just don’t buy that they were more stymied. And the anthropological evidence exists to show a steady rate of invention/innovation which compounds due to past achievements, faster and faster as is still the case today, even though spiritual/religious beliefs, no less fantastical than the earliest primitive humans held mind you, persist.
Limited by class
What a great approach, congratulations Yathish!!!
Faith is the heart of religion. However, there seems to be no explanation to it in Psychology. Its only purpose is to make a person more resilient to the never ending adversities of life.
I'm going to eat now. The stomach gods are angry!
You are a foolish person
@@sonofdeath7818 r/whoosh
@@sonofdeath7818 humor has left the commentsection
@@sonofdeath7818 Ok Karen
You mean, "hangry". Them gods are never satisfied.🤣😂
Really, really cool to think about. Personally, I love learning about how things got started - language, writing, religion, humanity, life itself, even the Universe (and what'll happen to it). I prefer bases of observation of the world around us over religious ones, though I can see how easy and convenient it is to chose religion - it's something that generations before you has gone with and you don't want to disappoint them, and it's generally less of a strain on the mind than atheism, enabling you to get on with the rest of your life.
look at the humanist movement from the renaissance.
Very good. keep learning and keep thinking
Wow! I had no idea we knew so much about our pre-historical ancestors who wrote nothing down! ._.
It's a reasoned postulation
Now you know.
@Earl Thomas I love being an optimistic nihilist.
Maya have writing, science, math, and astrology, that goes back thousands of years before any abrahamic religion was invented
In the past century anthropologist have conducted countless studies on the inner working and dynamics of hunter gatherers. They did this by observing newly discovered tribes that remained untouched by modern society . These tribes are found all over the globe, and by using the scientific method and comparing these societies to one another, followed by years of critical debates among fellows scientist, science has painted a pretty neat picture of how hunter gatherers function. These people are remnants of a way of living that used to be ours as well. If you want to know why our paths have split from theirs, the reason why we develloped a more complex society why they didn't, i suggest that you read "guns germs and steel" by Jared Diamond, and the discussions that follow it.
Hi what video editing software did you use for this?
I use Adobe Illustrator along with Adobe After Effects. I just uploaded another awesome video. Check it out!
Yathish Dhavala Islam is ever existing religion .truth that God is one is recognised to man from Adam(peace be upon him)from Adam to mohammad saw many messenger come including jesus that God is only one.only worship one god and in what direct method messengers do prayer of Allah follow is Islam quran have all history sciences geography read it for one time in your life and change the life of world and after world in paradise including jesus is messenger and he give messege that God is only one.
You make wonderful videos. Please keep making them. Thank you!
Nice video in short. Thanks a lot for this info.
Nice video that goes with my personal theory; it was probably a dream of the early cavemen ... there was a superior "being" looking after them. Although these
beliefs originated in different parts of the world at an early stage, you can easily imagine that the concept of "religion" was mainly there to calm down anxiety
among humans (why are we here, what is the purpose of life on earth, etc.).
I Think Religion is a higher Form of Spirituality which was created by people who see signs in everything
So my theory is a prehistoric people's culture person had a dream about their parents or their favorite place, person,thing and made it their whole personality
2:33 "Their view of the world came to them with invented stories. These were stories that were told and accepted without recognition of a difference between fact and fantasy."
A pretty good description of TH-cam cartoons about the paleolithic, each with a different twist.
Religion is a supernatural belief while ignoring reality
Everyone is arguing about theology and religion, and I'm just here listening to the song.
same
its a damn bop
0:16 literally that's all we need to survive on this planet but we've evolved so much in terms of technology that these things have become more of a commodity rather then a necessity.
Is there a way for someone to post the script for this video please? :)
To sum it all up, there's just so much power drawn to the unknown. Be it fear or excitement, or skepticism, or just the joy of discovery, the unknown(or the unproven, as I might prefer) shakes us all to our core. The inevitable ends. The undeniable conclusions. Oh, such is life.
My first educational video!!!
What a limited view and disrespect of the the world, our history and any religion. This video is nothing but subjective and has simply no research value.
***** How is he wrong? Study anthropology, physiology, and biology if you want to understand what makes man tick. Seems only disrespectful if you hold an absolute truth that is unquestionable and not open to new information. I'm guessing you have a favorite holy book.
77macgruber the last two lines are very telling.
He's basically saying "stupid cavemen couldn't do anything right"
But if you look at the evolution of society from hunter gatherers we see all the elements of agriculture developed and used long before agriculture and then they are all brought together to form an agriculture society.
Comparing that to other societies around the world. We discover that the lack of progress is simply an energy efficiency problem.
We see the societies that had grains, which could be planted while running around naked spreading seeds while being chased by another person in a costume would still grow. Societies that had labor intensive plants that didn't give as much back just couldn't provide as much for their society and thus more energy was expended finding food than doing other things.
It's incredibly disrespectful of the people in ancient times and how they progressed and had a huge modern day reinterpatation. There was no effort in putting on the time goggles.
It's a very basic, practical video with some obvious errors. While yes, 'biological geniuses' may have been stunted by culture (was this your attempt at connecting to the modern day world?) I must remind you that the creation of religion was also the first science. Without these primitive beings looking up at the sky and asking themselves what made the sun move across the sky, we would never have been able to come as far as we have. So I'd say that religion is the product of the biological geniuses, who, although limited by environment, still asked 'Why does this work?'.
Skinnymarks "the last two lines are very telling.
He's basically saying "stupid cavemen couldn't do anything right" "
That was the only part of the video I didn't like. It felt like an assertion based on no real evidence; just a prejudiced view of primitive, animistic societies as inherently inferior and incapable of real thought or progress, with no consideration about the inherent limitations primitive societies would have had in that era, when people had to struggle every day just to survive and didn't have the privilege of simply going to the super market for food and all the cushy technical advancements that we have today.
It really explains so much.thank you.
The origin of religious when the first con man met the first fool
Lies.....the flying spaghetti monster created the first man out of mozzarella sticks and meatballs and the first woman out of garlic bread as it is written in noodles in the Book of Pastafarianism.
Haha 100% correct Bro ;)
I could dig into that religion.
+imvexus Forget digging in for just 25 USD you can be a bishop. 😁www.venganza.org/ordination/
momiaw I am already ordained, and I did mine for free....Praise be on to the FSM.
Spaghetti Monster (P.B.U.H)
Honestly, not believing in a religion has made me more "spiritual." People need to stop being so afraid of this video, and become more conscious beings with a better understanding of the environment they live in. From where religion came from, to why we perceive things the way we do by understanding our biological functions, the understanding of what composes reality itself. Period. that's all you need to know, and there's TONS AND TONS of information out there people just ignore, and are afraid of because they feel frightened it will hurt their beliefs.
Embrace the enigma we call life, and realize the truth lies within us all. stop being blinded by culture and religion.
+XcccVcccX
I embrace the idea of being open to new ideas. However I don't understand why people talk about "a" religion. I honestly believe that religion is nothing more than just a word in order to discriminate people in categories: people who believe in an intelligent creator and people who don't.
You can't just give a criteria (for example: simplifying reality in order to understand it) to those categories (in this case, those who believe in a deity are simplifying reality; that is, according to this video and your comment). Doing so, in and of itself is simplifying reality so that one can understand it. In order words, you are doing the very same thing that you accuse others of.
There is no "a" religion, religion is nothing more than a philosophy.
The monotheistic ones are born through books, that are supposedly send by an author who is the intelligent creator of earth. This book supposedly contains messages for mankind, people interpret this book and have their own understanding about reality.
There are those who deny all of these books and the very idea of there being a deity (atheists), however they don't necesarilly agree with one another and do not support one anothers ideas, behaviors, agendas etc.
Then there are people who believe that this book is send by god, however they don't necesarilly agree with one another and do not support ..... etc. either!
I believe in the Quran, however disagree with most translations (please don't tell me stuff about him being a pedophil and stuff like that, I oppose all of those ideas, they are born through books that are not the Quran (Bukhari etc.) and I do not believe in them).
I support the idea of evolution, I even have physiological and psychological explanations that I've never seen used by anyone else before. My proof explains how the later stages progressed and in what way it influences our sexual desires. I believe that even if you completely oppose an idea, you should be open to those ideas and think about them, give them a chance. And the Quran, my interpretation of it, and let me say that I am fascinated by it, reading it almost everyday now, listening to multiple different analysises etc. My interpretation of it strongly encourages me to further develop myself and keep being open-minded.
So please do not say that religious people are like this or like that, for I dislike a majority of their philosophies myself.
And doing so is just as ignorant towards the individuals who practice these so called "religions". Of whom you and many others accuse as being ignorant.
Sorry for the long response, Peace.
I appreciate your insights from my experience I found religion teaching to be a logical way to guide the new generations. by completely being in a truthful mindset the teachings were developed from stories because that's how it began in our language. as the 7000 years gone by each group began to change it to better suit their moods. lol Santana
anyway after studying history of religion, language, war, cultural societies, social and natural and physical science I've found only to be spun. but to my own logical conclusion that is physically we are all energy in motion. as well as consciously. but our creator has guarded us from ever touching our souls unless we use our imagination. so I'd have to say something's definitely going on outside of our limitations and we'll always be spinning each other and ourself trying to find the end all answer and I'm guessing there never will be... lol thanks for listening...
die This video is both demeaning religion and spirituality, my dude.
Surprised you aren’t offended.
I'd like you to look at some Hindu teachings then! They focus more on how to live life unbound with material attachments and fame. They appreciate things that surround them rather than baffle about who has the best God.
@@7Volkan6 great comment! If you see this, I have a question; are you still a follower of the Quran? Has your religious perspective changed over the past seven years?
Very informative video.
Your videos are awesome! Why did you stop!
JustDance Pinky33 Thanks! I moved onto other things..
I'm confused. How do you propose to know what cave men told stories about? By looking at their cave paintings? But that could be about anything. I'm confused about your evidence for know what those people thought at all.
+Whynter Knox It's not entirely based on evidence, it's just a rational perspective.
+Whynter Knox
Looking at the evolution of religion
+Kim Petersen Yes, but as they didn't have a rational perspective how can we know what their perspective was?
I'm sure a comparison of various hunter gatherer peoples is useful but hardly conclusive. Natives of Australia, Papa New Guinea and the Americas had such varied beliefs and even where these people did paint on rocks we are still talking about a people separated by thousands of miles and years with again different beliefs and reasoning.
+jonstfrancis Read the book Guns, Germs and Steel, that will answer that.
This video was not meant to be a portrayal of an actual historical event. It's more of a story that gives you an idea of where religion comes from. No one says this has to be taken literally.
Gryffix well God isn’t real
Joseph G
Prove it :)
Peter Salucci Heard of the problem of evil?
Joseph Hapbridge
Yes it’s called sin :)
Peter Salucci XD so natural disasters and disease are caused by sin?
Damn. 1:53 I thought there was a real bug on my screen, I tried to kill it.
Me too😂
@@eliezercorderofeliciano8413 what were you smoking hhhhh
How can I make a video like this? The animated part
Such a good video! It should have way more views!
Excellent work! Any idea if you plan to have other languages CC, Spanish for example
And people are still fighting over whose fiction is real or more superior, while none of it is
*SUPER-FACEPALM*
can I just ask a sincere question, what do you think the truth is in this world. I'm genuinely asking
@@demelzakonoplyanka8550 can you be a little more specific?
@@AdeshAtole in terms of religion. For example , atheist, agnostic etc.
Demelza Konoplyanka what is truth ? Is it just statements based on an individuals perception?
what is agnostic? Atheist? Are they just labels us humans made up because we have to understand everything???
We’re just the product of billions of years of evolution. Some things we will never understand
@@Rafaelhrndz I wonder if there are things we have currently got wrong or if there is something major we are missing that hasn't yet been discovered
This video just shows that deep in our soul we knows there are "higher power" / creator....
our Soul "remember" it's origin where "the soul" witness our creator before it is sent to this sensory body in this physical world..and the soul WILL go back to our creator after we die...
that is why, it's natural when we keep having a "feeling" that there are "higher power" that govern our life...
Atheist or Religious, you knows.. within you have some sort of feelings about GOD - THE CREATOR
Or confused caveman make god to answer those questions
And i dont have any feelings
You think you have the feelings because placebo effect
Yes i agree, god exist,.. his name is Rah
Thank you :)
Soundtrack is Four Tet - Angel Echoes (Jon Hopkins remix). Link is given in the description..
It doesn't sound like those things local priest told you does it?
Or thoses islamic teachers of mine.
This is more like animism then abrahamic religions
I loved it!❤❤❤❤❤ Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I love the background music so much it's a vibe.
There are so many assumptions made in this video that I couldn't ever take it seriously.
Like? Would you like to explain your argument?
I think we need compromise and respect here...
Truth = Evidence that can be tested and when tested repeatedly gives the same results.
God = Love and Unity
That is enough to appreciate each other, people...
read almost every holy book ever. the God is always a genocidal, racist, hypocritical, lustful, power hungery.
hell he's like a child version of hitler.
+Prince Nightblade how many holy books did you read?
+Venkata Susarla About 420.
Venkata Susarla I haven't read any cover to cover. But I know from people who study holy books about the immoral teachings of those ancient mythological books
So all your knowledge is without even reading anything? Sir It would be wise to read something and then coming to a conclusion on it rather than observing the people.I didn't get what you mean by immoral teachings.
To believe in nothing is equally stupid as believing in everything.
What’s this song called?
Great video.
can we all just realize that people are going to believe or not believe in what ever they want no matter what you think or say and move on? Coexistence is so much simpler. keeps your blood-pressure down too.
I like having high blood pressure so I'm trying to make as many deluded theists see the truth as I can.
@@TheTruthKiwi Well, I've seen you. Now what?
@@karoluslynx1746 Do you believe that a god exists?
@@TheTruthKiwi I am gottgläubig, there exists a person which is God.
@@karoluslynx1746 How do you know?
I'm not surprised by the many negative comments here, but this is an excellent video. It is not biased or condescending, it simply reports on how our ancestors thought and operated, based on the available anthropology we have today. Great job!
Be careful with any video made by a human telling how things were.
@@donaldmjbart-williams3144why? explain
@@donaldmjbart-williams3144 so aliens can make videos to send to us ? Humans are the direct worshippers of God and gods bruh
I find the gods of the ancients to be far more interesting than today's gods.
Both perhaps but I would prefer the earlier gods
What if God was all and nothing, creator and destroyer, you and me, every blade of grass, every inch of space, an entirely different realm that affects all the rest, is everyone of them gods mentioned in ancient history aswell as the gods of religions today and those yet to be thought of. It knows the future yet doesn't correct it. For it nothing is wrong as it all happens for a reason, that callousness and vileness had its place in it only to cause the goodness and wonders of the worlds and all life is one small part of it.
Cos that's as far as I can see of God but I believe it's there
@Lina Morgana the indus valley Civilisation
@@rodneyquinn2528 welcome to omnism my friend ✝️☪️🕉☸️✡️☯️
Because you do not know the one true God. If you truly did, you would not even care about the others.
Would the explanation above be science or speculation?
Very well explained briefly about the religion thanks for educating religious creed.
why would anyone still carry on believing in these things?
Why would anyone still carry on posting comments on videos just to cause shit?
+John Perkens answer you own question please
John Perkens Ass
Because the b.s. Story's tell them they don't truly die.
What the fuck do you think you really know about death?
Would someone happen to know of the observations on which the theory of this video is based are found?
VERY WELL NARRATED
This was excellent, thank you! No reason to believe in one made up story vs another made up story. Well done.
Just only to believe another made up story on the origins of life. It's all beliefs at the end of the day
@ The Human Experience religion is false.
I'm an atheist and I didn't feel like this video explained the origins; instead, just threw inconspicuous jabs at the absurdity of religions.
samy said The video tries to reasonably explain why religion existed in the first place. Of course, the video does not properly conclude its title.
+samy said How would you explain it?
***** You would explain the origins of religions as "the sun, weather, night, day, death, etc"?
***** But that's what the video did, didn't it?
***** I get that. What I am talking about is the original comment of this video. He claimed that "I didn't feel like this video explained the origins; instead, just threw inconspicuous jabs at the absurdity of religions."
Therefore I asked him, how would he have better explained it?
Perfectly put out!
Using Jon Hopkin's remix of Angel echos!! Respect earned.
and they were scared shitless by the elements and the strong animals they shared the land with ...how else would they come to the conclusion that there must be much more powerful beings
maybe because they thought there's someone secretly helping them?
uaoooooooooooooooooooooo!
This great! Congratulations to the authors!
I've been trying to find this video for years
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Excellent. Thank you for your brief conclusions.
its sad to think that the majority of people on this planet still believe the fables created by primitives to fill the void created by their utter lack of understanding about the universe.
we have the knowledge now, but nope! these people still believe the fables.
agreed
What business is it of yours if people decide to believe in religion or not? As long as no one is trying to force their belief on you, then you don't need to worry about what others believe. Live and let live.
DollDarling people's belief effect their actions, their actions effect us all,
go ask the people of Nice why they should care what the Islamic State guy in a truck thinks...
do you live in some bubble? here in the real world atrocities in the name of mythology happen DAILY.
With most people. you will find that if you didn't worry about what religion they were, they are nice people. Honestly, religion is something you have to decide about yourself. No one can do it for you....and you really shouldn't compare ISIS and terrorist with typical religious people. Those people are extremists and typical religious people are not like that.
DollDarling shall we look at america? gay marriage has only just been legalised, much to the objection of christian homophobes,
some schools are at this very moment are teaching MYTHOLOGY in the science classroom as an alternative to facts (evolution),
and jewish parents are still mutilating the genitals of their children, because a book tells them too.
religion has no place in the civil modern world.
Excellent ! Now that's what I call the e way of explaining things.
This is a very simplistic view that does not even scratch the surface.
And I thought my phone screen is dirty 😂😂
Both religion and science improve by recognizing culture, and going back to the roots of what makes people, people. That is the power of contemporary science and religion.
How does religion 'improve'? This makes no sense in any way at all.
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Had to make a summary of this video for RS homework
Stone age...def; ' The period lasted roughly 3.4 million years, and ended between 8700 BCE (or BC) and 2000 BCE with the advent of metalworking. :
It is not possible to know what these people called themselves since 'writing' has been at its earliest found in china around the 7th millennia BCE.
It is an arbitrary 'period'... and 'stone age people' cannot be grouped together as one. It is like dating the use of fire... come on ...
this entire video is conjecture claiming to be solidly scientific... i find it laughable when science is used incorrectly to promote a philosophy.
Philosophy is not science or scientific thinking.
it is the opposite...starts with a conclusion and desperately grovels to find evidence supporting it...
I always loved the idea of spirits being in everything. I think there's a misconception in what is meant by this. Of course the pre-intellectual humans actually believed in these kinds of things, but I think there is some truth to it. Maybe not a literal factual truth but some kind of tangible abstract truth in the mind brought through feeling (even though feelings can be so powerful in convincing us that they are literal, making us fear our intuitive insights - there's still room for interpretation and analysis). The mind can look at things in objective and subjective ways. The objective way is very literal and logical. The subjective way is often mystical, but provides an insight into the true nature of reality. You could say philosophers look at the world this way combining both aspects of their subjective experience and objective analysis and that is what it means to be truly rational. Fantasy is a tool for us to understand reality, as is logic which can prune our fantastical conceptions and theories to find truth. So when they say that objects have spirits, maybe they take that too far, and as you said, separated fantasy from logic. But when you take fantasy and apply it's concepts to logic, you can see a certain reasoning behind it. When you look at a plant, you can feel that it is alive like you. It has some kind of spirit to it that is the sum of it's functions to survive.
You might should look into Platon's philosophy and I don't mean the political stuff (which is mostly nonesense), but into his world of ideas.
What the hell do you men by this "pre-intellectual humans actually believed in these kinds of things, "
@@donaldmjbart-williams3144 Idk people still believe that it's weird to say pre intellectual humans. Maybe he meant humans before the age of enlightenment.
"faith never gives you answers, it makes you stop questioning"
. . . Not to question stops progression..
How do we know this?!
This "Will" guy sounds really powerful. There's not many people I know who can move the sun and moon.
This guy lived with people from the stone that he know what they believe and think in great details
Great video
I like the music! I wish I can know the name of this music))
The Name Of The Music Is “Fuck Atheism"
Good video. Very clear. Thanks!
very fake
This video overall presents interesting arguments but the last conclusion, that religion is an obstacle to progress, does not convince me. Civilization and technological progress began long before people started questioning the supernatural. In fact skepticism and outright atheism probably flourished after such progress enabled it. Religious people don't seem particularly bothered by any new scientific theory as long as it doesn't deny something fundamental to their faith.
For instance, Christians and Muslims have a lot of problem with the idea of evolution by natural selection because it does not require the intervention of God. If God even exists at all, then natural selection means that He is not the architect of the human soul and thus is not its rightful shepherd. Sinful behavior is not a consequence of spiritual corruption but an adaptive behavior that evolved to address survival needs, and which thus must be dealt in a pragmatic fashion instead of a dogmatic one.
But as long as it doesn't threat a fundamental tenet, religious people exhibit no special distrust of progress. When was the last time the Catholic Church completely outlawed some technology or scientific theory?
Depending on when they stop burning the heretics. If you have no problem for creationist to introduce themselves as Science I am sure your kids will love to study a subject where the conclusion is God did it.
I'd recommend reading up on durkheim made good points that religion stabilizes society, funny thing he was an atheist.
EVEN the catholics are moving toward a more secular position on real world issues. However...they're not so hot on contraception. Or medical technology that facilitates abortion on demand. Or handing over the pedophile priests. Of course family planning is not that popular either amongst the (supposedly) celibate old men who make the rules. Muslims think Pokemon is haram. And chess. And pictures of cats. And women riding bicycles. Just to get a religious balance here. Oh yeah, and scantily dressed women cause earthquakes, nearly forget that gem! No, religion- get rid of it!
I don't know how anyone can prove that religion stabilizes society because almost every society is religious (the irreligious societies in developed countries are an anomaly in the grand course of human history). He'd need to show a large number of examples of societies that gave up religion and crumbled soon after - not just a few anecdotes, but a statistically significant sample that allows us to prove a correlation.
Your speaking from the perspective of modern day society and in modern era the principles and practices of religion have significantly changed, in the dark ages for example, everyone would be born within a certain social class and with certain circumstances were convinced they'd stay that way, the ones who publicly said the wanted to make a change or questioned core beliefs were tortured and executed and this continued for 100s of years, throughout many wars and then some light was shed on the practices of the church for stifling creativity and open thinking in order to keep power, after this ended the european world say a massive and rapid increase in innovation, new technologies, the printing press was invented during that time, and that as you know paved a way for new thinking...If all we did when we didn't understand something was say God made it that way, then we wouldn't learn how stuff works, and how to manipulate it, As time passed by, with every new innovation the church called it the work of the devil or said it was unholy and eventually adopted it and slowly changed there thinking towards certain things, when people first started doing surgeries in christian society they were accused of being witches and put through witch trials and all died, when the first open heart surgery was done, they accused doctors of playing God, protesting against it, but as you know eventually they just said God gave man the wisdom and knowledge to do these things.
Christians put many men to death because of open thinking and principles that are common knowledge in today's society
Evidence? Sources?
Faith gives hope
Calming but untrue
Religion is not the answer, science can explain everything, religion only complicates life in general.
Religion gives simple answers to complex questions to satisfy the stupid and intellectually lazy who want an easy answer to everything. And a lot of times the easy answers religion provides don't even make sense. The answers Christians often give give me a headache.
Religion= assigning the explanation of anything you don't understand to a higher being and magic
yousedcarguy No.
How did surname come from?
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Great vid,but that ending was something to disagree on
In the beginning man made God and man said i will create God in my own image.
Unknown shadow No, it didn't happen like that.
Byzantine Servant Then how did it happen huh?...That’s what I thought.
Unknown shadow
Exactly
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Look up Relativistic Quantum Field Theory, The Big Bang theory, Abiogenesis and The Theory of Evolution and you might learn something.
Byzantine Servant - actually that's exactly what happened.
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whos here for "religious element of society"
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This is rather elitist. He basically concludes by saying that religion halts social progress, which really isn't borne out by the evidence.
There is some good material in the video but it is very biased towards a certain perspective and comes to an incorrect conclusion. But then again, you can't really discuss the origin of religion in a 4 minute youtube video.
He says culture inhibits those who could otherwise be the next Isaac Newton or Einstein. Culture is much more than just religion. For example; idealizing singers, poets, actors, etc. can leave you satisfied, and as you live vicariously through the works of others you abstain from challenging the obstacles of today. The "work a day" culture limits creative work trading it in for hourly jobs that drain your energy and desire to do anything challenging. It is much more than just religion but I recognize that religion has always tried to place limits and rules upon everything, so even if there is some bias, I think we're moving in the right direction.
I agree that our current capitalist culture limits creative work - but our religion is that of materialism. I don't see this current system as moving in the right direction at all. In fact, we are moving toward our impending doom. We can scoff at religious impulses and mythologies but the fact is that we are encased in a mythology (in the US) of "freedom", "justice", and "equality" while many are blind or indifferent toward the massive levels of poverty, wage slavery, and environmental destruction that are occurring. I mean, the Western scientific reductionist approach to life may be a better model that our proto-religious ancestors, but it is still incomplete and at times lacking in morality. Society would be better off today without nuclear weapons. That being said, I despise the modern versions of the classical monotheistic religions. So you are definitely correct in the original point that our culture is the problem. Sorry for ranting, hope that made sense.
"He basically concludes by saying that religion halts social progress, which really isn't borne out by the evidence."
Then perhaps you could provide that evidence. Like how religion promotes the acceptence of homosexuality.
Hey, thanks for asking this. Sorry my statement was a bit broad. I think that problems arise when we make broad statements such as "religion halts social progress" (or that it doesn't). When we say religion we are really referring to a bunch of different cultural traditions. So for example, fundamentalist right wing Christianity in the US halts social progress, I'll give you that one (and the same can be said for fundamentalist Islam in the Middle East). However, the social gospel movement in the 1960's was led by black church leaders such as MLK jr. This movement actually resulted in a lot of social progress and had it's roots and support within black churches.
Now this brings up the point that all events in history have multiple causes and effects and cannot be simply explained with neat little words like religion, ideology, or nationalism (though all three can play important roles and the dividing line between them isn't very clear). So if we are trying to measure the effect of "religion" (a term that is meaningless outside of context) on "social progress" (another meaningless term outside of context), then we're going to have a bad time. We need to avoid generalizations and instead examine how and why religious structures, beliefs and practices arose in particular societies at particular times, and what were the repercussions of those practices/ modes of thought. Usually we will find a mixed bag, because in the end we are dealing with the actions of individuals - who are complex - and not the straight religion or ideology itself. If Osama bin Laden had happened to be an atheist, would he still had become a terrorist?There's no way to tell for sure, but I can easily see him having used a sort of pseudo-Marxist ideology or a violent nationalism to justify his actions (and in fact, he likely did, as well as Islam).
Even fundamentalist right-wing Christianity needs to be understood in terms of its history in the US, the Enlightenment and its thought structures, as well as Western capitalism.
jeffiek not all religions have the same posture towards homosexuality so it's not a good example to use here
How they know the consept of spirit?
awesome!
Same purpose, different time. People's minds invented religion to fill in the blanks, only back then it was smaller, now common sense questions. Religion really does hold people and societies back form progress and equality, and it's very sad when people give their lives for a religion which is easily found false if you keep asking the question: why?
without an absolute sacred morality your moral compass would also break down if you keep asking the question: why?
@@GVSHvids not in some facets of morality. Take killing someone. You can answer that that’s morally wrong. It’s not a societal construct that it’s bad to murder. It’s forcefully stopping someone from existing which is unarguable.
@@denebh733 where does that belief come from? At what basis does it have any grounds? It has to be a quasi religious belief.
@@GVSHvids It's not a belief. It's like the law of non contradiction, it's just a universal law. Killing someone is not good because you're forcibly removing them from existence when they don't want you to.
@@denebh733 who cares?
This is very limited... Not a word about the most important aspects of religion, control of social relationships, confort and meaning facing the inevitability of death, and set the symbolic bases and structure of moral parametters. The antireligion posture often unable the posibility of learning more about the complexitys of human beings and their myths. In a way, humanity it self has started with religion, wich doesnt mean we need to be creationists today! The need for god to explain the origin of universe and the way nature works no longer exists, but the need for god to give meaning to their existence is a right people have, specially nowadays. The faith is a human dimension. Industrialized countries have such faith in capitalism that they cant see or dont care about polluting the planet to a point there will be not return.
+Samir Petrocelli Of course it's limited. It's about the origins of religion, not what it has become.
+Samir Petrocelli You know that the word "faith" is simply optimism in a bad way (because sometimes people ignore reality for it like often...).
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." [Nietzsche]
True.
Religion and morals? Tell that to the muslims throwing homosexuals off of roofs or the African Christians mutilating children because they believe they're sorcerers.
Tell that to the many Bible verses advocating slavery, discrimination, murder and sexism. Tell that to the indoctrinated children and folks whose lives are ruined by religion and it's oppressive, controlling doctrines.
Fuck off mate, the bad aspects of religions outweigh the good ones by a far bit.
Who is King David’s Lord in Psalm 110:1?
You found this information where? Apparently you found it somewhere and who could actually decipher its meanings strange that you could even say that this is where it began or how it began?