My mom walked by as I'm watching this and starts crying, apparently this is where she grew up. She always talks about kumina. She recognized multiple people in the video. The Man playing the drum in blue used to baby sit my older brothers!! His name is Mass Sam(another way of saying Mr Sam). OMG small world. She said thank you whomever posted this.
Malembe kentu (hello) that's Queenie singing with friends. Me and this group all represent the st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS.
@@seanreid2986 Actually, the older woman is my grand aunt; my mother's aunt. I knew her as Zilla Beckford. We affectionately called her Aunt Zill or Aunt Zilla. Her daughter Beryl's last name I don't remember at this point but I will ask her daughter who now resides in Florida. Both Aunt Zilla and her daughter Beryl have long been deceased.
If anyone wants more info about Kumina and post emancipation immigration from Africa into Jamaica I highly recommend Alas, Alas, Kongo by Monica Schuler published in 1980
Kumina means arrived. Ma Ndombé (mama wa ndombi) means black mother which is a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom. Yetu na Yetu means between us That's what I understand in this song. I'm happy to know that I got my bakongo people in Jamaica. I love Jamaicans ❤️
@@carsade they are using some kikongo words. Congo is big and we have so many languages. Maybe your Congolese friend is not from the Kongo tribe or he simply don't speak the language.
Seeing this just bring back a lot of memories, to see my mom, and uncle when they were young. Also the older people that grew me miss beryl also miss ansyl trust me brings tears rest in peace my mom “minna”
Very insightful 👏 I had to get up to dance in mark of respect for my Ancestors 🙏 My background I am from the Urhobo people in southern Nigeria in Delta State Congo an Cameroon are neighbours to Nigeria 🇳🇬
It's sad that Christianity is/was forced on us but we still preserve our cultural. And another thing I notice when I was small and when I used to travel to my grand parents house in St Mary I used to experience this on the regular and I was so comfortable with it as to going to Sunday school and that always made me wonder....
Malembe kentu Mumbaka (hello friends this is our kumina) songs: 'madombe', 'white sandals'. The st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS
Jenni rren Unedited please send the link. I told my professor who taught Africa Religion in the Americas that I would make a documentary about Kumina. I haven't made it back to ja for any extended time yet but I still plan on doing it.
My dad bishop reid use to have an African session at his revival church in lime hall st. Ann also at Holt close in Kingston,these kumina dancing and chanting was a part of the worship.
Jely.k Beauty secret funny the song at the ends sounds like a mento. It would've have been curious to hear miss lou speak on this although I imagine carolyn cooper knows quite a bit
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana . They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo
Not going to lie… I’ve watched a few of these west African culture videos and once I hear the drumming and singing i immediately felt my knees and feet desire to start moving. Lol
so they came from the anterior of congo?they are singing about mayi ndombe(the dark / black water). i think somebody from kongo can understand what they are saying i think that they are bakongo..
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana . They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo.
@@omalone1169 due to the time they have spent in Jamaica, I guess there is a modification and evolution of the language but what I've been able to understand is Kumina which means arrived, ma ndombé (mama wa ndombi) which means black mother (a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom) and yetu na yetu which means between us/among us. I will show the video to my mother who can speak a very good Kongo language and I'm sure she will tell me more about what she understands.
Prime Minister Edward Seaga could have given more detail on this video. My grandmother use to dance Khumina for Mr. Seaga it's a pity they are all decease. I'm sorry I did not get a lot of information on it but I know persons who still live in St. Thomas where my Aunt and Grandmother is from my dad still lives there.
See if you can gather information and make a short videos are write a book. Mr Seaga was going to do a documentary on revivalist church and kumina but unfortunately he pass.
These are originaly makonde people of central africa to east africa they are from congo drc and little bit of angola these are mokonde drums or ngoma in kiswahili
They let me make friends with the goat 🐐 Rodney and then I saw them stringing up the goat… I wondered what they were doing??? (being a 10yr old Jamaican British kid in Jamaica) they killed Rodney 😭 Me and my little cousins cried But when we stop cry, they finish cook Rodney We felt guilty But bwoy him did taste sweet yuh see! All the guilt melted away, so fresh 😋🤤 bless you Rodney lol
I have the same story as an American child born into a Jamaican family, only I couldn’t eat the goat or the chicken. I actually went vegetarian for damn near 4 months and my mom was so annoyed with trying to feed me other things until I forgot about how meat actually makes it to my plate. Memories lol!
Why does he says 19th century as I thought the Zaire I fluency was from 1700s. Also I'm assuming Ghana is first as I randomly read somewhere it was 47% , whilst the next place was 17%
omalone11 the last batch of Africans brought to Jamaica in significant numbers came from the congo. They were concentrated in specific parts of Jamaica. Ghana/gold coast largest, nigeria second largest and congo/angola third largest number of africans that populate Jamaica.
@@omalone1169 RJ, is correct in his general assessment, although I will add That a lot of Jamaicans have roots from the old Dahamoney Kingdom too. That piece that you refer to in the Gleander doesn't cover everything. Many of the words we used are Igbo. Look up the Igbo uprising in St ELizabeth and then look up another set of Africans from Nigeria, the Yorubas . Check out Abeokuta in Westmoreland.
@@rantsinpatwa Would you happen to have any videos about the Tambu dance which is popular in Wakefield Trelawny. Apparently it stems from the people from Congo.
@@thinkforyourself1116 which is right there was a greater concentration of Igbo (Ebo), Yaruba and perhaps Coramante people found on the western end of Jamaica due to how the slave traders did business. This is also evident in some language and other slight cultural differences found between the eastern and western parts of Jamaica.
My mom walked by as I'm watching this and starts crying, apparently this is where she grew up. She always talks about kumina. She recognized multiple people in the video. The Man playing the drum in blue used to baby sit my older brothers!! His name is Mass Sam(another way of saying Mr Sam). OMG small world. She said thank you whomever posted this.
Ask your mom what is the name of the lady singing
Malembe kentu (hello) that's Queenie singing with friends. Me and this group all represent the st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS.
songoma rituals Malembe kentu, is this the bikongo language?
Yes romel this is the Congo language. We talk and sing in this language usually at kumina events and things and rituals.
songoma rituals does SAMKS or yourself have an email address I could I could contact you/them on if possible
this make me so happy to see. jamaicans preserving our african roots. we need more learning about this.
bcom11 apparently there is a bailo and then a country version. I am still learning . So far I know that Desmond Puesey and Jackie Guy teach it in UK
Yes...
That's my late Aunt Zilla (Gully Queen) and her daughter my cousin Beryl (both women being interviewed) there! I miss those kumina days in Jamaica!
FitzRoy send me an email at renaebm@gmail.com let's connect
Big up gully queen
What were their full names, your aunt and cousin. And are they still alive today?
@@seanreid2986 Actually, the older woman is my grand aunt; my mother's aunt. I knew her as Zilla Beckford. We affectionately called her Aunt Zill or Aunt Zilla. Her daughter Beryl's last name I don't remember at this point but I will ask her daughter who now resides in Florida. Both Aunt Zilla and her daughter Beryl have long been deceased.
Beyral MacFarlane (orange head scarf) and Zola Beckford (red scarf) and they are mother and daughter. My grand aunt and great grandmother. ❤
If anyone wants more info about Kumina and post emancipation immigration from Africa into Jamaica I highly recommend Alas, Alas, Kongo by Monica Schuler published in 1980
Kumina means arrived.
Ma Ndombé (mama wa ndombi) means black mother which is a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom.
Yetu na Yetu means between us
That's what I understand in this song.
I'm happy to know that I got my bakongo people in Jamaica. I love Jamaicans ❤️
Same I’m congolese and I can pick out similarities in our cultures
sorry what language is this, slaves came from Congo? my Congolese friend dont know dis
@@carsade they are using some kikongo words. Congo is big and we have so many languages. Maybe your Congolese friend is not from the Kongo tribe or he simply don't speak the language.
@@mavoungoukelanou8045 apologies i meant she is not aware of slaves coming fron Congo just west africa or maybe its just, not on about the language
@@carsade ooh ok I get you.
They mostly took slaves in west and Central Africa.
This is so beautiful , but I think the government should do more in educating and preserving our culture .
Wow she said yétu na yétu 😯😯 that's my kongo language tho.
Three Jamaican folk dances I remember learning about. are Brukkings, Ettu, and Kumina!
Don't forget Dinki mini
@@jamaicandrilla4005, thank you so much for the reminder.
The Lady that is chanting the song is my Aunt.
I need her link to share our culture Ghana 🇬🇭 Jamaica 🇯🇲 Africa ❤. Thanks
Seeing this just bring back a lot of memories, to see my mom, and uncle when they were young. Also the older people that grew me miss beryl also miss ansyl trust me brings tears rest in peace my mom “minna”
My condolences to you . Any of the player and dancers are any still alive?
Very insightful 👏 I had to get up to dance in mark of respect for my Ancestors 🙏 My background I am from the Urhobo people in southern Nigeria in Delta State Congo an Cameroon are neighbours to Nigeria 🇳🇬
Seeing this reminds me of my Great Aunt Claire, Mother Clarke, & my Mother. All practiced this form of African Spirituality.
My mom is in this video Rip mom. This is Middleton Charles town, miss berel singing I miss these people even miss ansil
Love 💕 the sound of the drums 🪘 it is beautiful and spiritual.😊
I love kumina ❤❤🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
It's sad that Christianity is/was forced on us but we still preserve our cultural. And another thing I notice when I was small and when I used to travel to my grand parents house in St Mary I used to experience this on the regular and I was so comfortable with it as to going to Sunday school and that always made me wonder....
Malembe kentu Mumbaka (hello friends this is our kumina) songs: 'madombe', 'white sandals'. The st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS
Do you know what MANDOMBE means? is Black in KIKONGO
Malembe means slow, slowly
Beautiful !! Kumina is so similar to our bèlè in Martinique
i went to a Kumina session in Jamaica last year and it was so interesting. i would like to learn more.
Jenni rren Unedited I want to go .. hopefully they will allow me to document it.
They will. I was able to record and there was no problem. I will send you the link if you wish..
Jenni rren Unedited please send the link. I told my professor who taught Africa Religion in the Americas that I would make a documentary about Kumina. I haven't made it back to ja for any extended time yet but I still plan on doing it.
Can i have your email address so I can send footage
Jenni rren Unedited my email is: rjmoofilms@gmail.com thanks in advance.
Wonderful thing to keep the spirit of your ancestors relevant in these stagnant times.
Amazing video documentary.
Beautiful. Appreciate this
My dad bishop reid use to have an African session at his revival church in lime hall st. Ann also at Holt close in Kingston,these kumina dancing and chanting was a part of the worship.
My grandmother is also in this video.
she sing like akan ashanti
Jely.k Beauty secret funny the song at the ends sounds like a mento. It would've have been curious to hear miss lou speak on this although I imagine carolyn cooper knows quite a bit
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana .
They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo
Nope, that's a Bakongo rhythm. And I can understand some of the things she said, for example the yétu na yétu in the song.
I'm bouncing in my seat. This is some riddim!
Bless up 🇯🇲🇯🇲
Wow wow great! ❤
If you stood still while watching this, you're out of tune.
Not going to lie… I’ve watched a few of these west African culture videos and once I hear the drumming and singing i immediately felt my knees and feet desire to start moving. Lol
so they came from the anterior of congo?they are singing about mayi ndombe(the dark / black water). i think somebody from kongo can understand what they are saying i think that they are bakongo..
i know kumina is in kongo arrived
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana .
They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo.
Mansueki Milandu any idea what song they are singing
@@omalone1169 due to the time they have spent in Jamaica, I guess there is a modification and evolution of the language but what I've been able to understand is Kumina which means arrived, ma ndombé (mama wa ndombi) which means black mother (a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom) and yetu na yetu which means between us/among us.
I will show the video to my mother who can speak a very good Kongo language and I'm sure she will tell me more about what she understands.
Prime Minister Edward Seaga could have given more detail on this video. My grandmother use to dance Khumina for Mr. Seaga it's a pity they are all decease. I'm sorry I did not get a lot of information on it but I know persons who still live in St. Thomas where my Aunt and Grandmother is from my dad still lives there.
See if you can gather information and make a short videos are write a book. Mr Seaga was going to do a documentary on revivalist church and kumina but unfortunately he pass.
Beautiful welcome home 🐍
Very deep
These are originaly makonde people of central africa to east africa they are from congo drc and little bit of angola these are mokonde drums or ngoma in kiswahili
No filter ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The killing of the goat was done for my grandfather's funeral. Is this practice specific to Kumina or do the ashanti and yoruba do it too?
The killing of the goat is done by any group or tribe. It's a accepted sacrifice to the ancestors
Yes it is done in the yoruba tradition as well here in trinidad we offer a goat for many diffrent aspects as well as for our ancestors
They let me make friends with the goat 🐐 Rodney and then I saw them stringing up the goat… I wondered what they were doing??? (being a 10yr old Jamaican British kid in Jamaica) they killed Rodney 😭
Me and my little cousins cried
But when we stop cry, they finish cook Rodney
We felt guilty
But bwoy him did taste sweet yuh see!
All the guilt melted away, so fresh 😋🤤 bless you Rodney lol
@@thehoneyeffect I have the same story as a child. 🤣🤣🤣What disloyal friends we were
I have the same story as an American child born into a Jamaican family, only I couldn’t eat the goat or the chicken. I actually went vegetarian for damn near 4 months and my mom was so annoyed with trying to feed me other things until I forgot about how meat actually makes it to my plate. Memories lol!
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
What does mean the word mapale? I heard in the chorus of kumina song
The woman dem inna myal to the end
Kukumina royaume KONGO. Man n'ngolee ( n'ngolo) Angola. N'nzambi yaame.
Why does he says 19th century as I thought the Zaire I fluency was from 1700s.
Also I'm assuming Ghana is first as I randomly read somewhere it was 47% , whilst the next place was 17%
omalone11 the last batch of Africans brought to Jamaica in significant numbers came from the congo. They were concentrated in specific parts of Jamaica. Ghana/gold coast largest, nigeria second largest and congo/angola third largest number of africans that populate Jamaica.
Rant Jamaica jamaica-gleaner.com/article/art-leisure/20160124/how-anthology-african-jamaican-culture-was-created
ps miss me with the Nigeria part 🤣
@@omalone1169 RJ, is correct in his general assessment, although I will add That a lot of Jamaicans have roots from the old Dahamoney Kingdom too. That piece that you refer to in the Gleander doesn't cover everything. Many of the words we used are Igbo. Look up the Igbo uprising in St ELizabeth and then look up another set of Africans from Nigeria, the Yorubas . Check out Abeokuta in Westmoreland.
@@rantsinpatwa Would you happen to have any videos about the Tambu dance which is popular in Wakefield Trelawny. Apparently it stems from the people from Congo.
@@thinkforyourself1116 which is right there was a greater concentration of Igbo (Ebo), Yaruba and perhaps Coramante people found on the western end of Jamaica due to how the slave traders did business. This is also evident in some language and other slight cultural differences found between the eastern and western parts of Jamaica.
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🔥🇯🇲♥️♥️
vive kongo
what di wiman singing? a patois cause mi nuh undastan a raas she a seh but unteresting
Jamaicans are from the tribe of Benjamin they’re are not Africans