So we're scaling this right? Right here. Right now.. 17 is stronger than Cell, Buu, Supreme Kai, Ultimate Gohan, Vegito, SSJ 3 and the damn Farmer with a Shotgon
@capo900 that's what I was going to say...he's always had unlimited energy but he was young and wild when the Cell saga happened but just like everyone he's been able to train in mind and body
@@chaoshorn2654 Yeah lol, goku was hidden while he had the heart virus, so the androids couldn't find him while looking for him, and then the whole cell thing happened and the androids were gone lol
It’s because Android 17 &18 were actually human before they were Androids. But 16 unfortunately was not he just designed after Dr. Gero’s son and not created from him💯
@@daelenevans2934 that don’t mean nun in the future they killed anything that was walking cell and trunks coming to the past change a lot of stuff including them 17&18.
17 is really taking 16's loss hard. Dude really respected and cared for him. This is 16's legacy. You see it again with 17 and Gohan fighting side by side, the two people 16 left to protect Earth.
The one thing I liked about this was that 17 was written to have a low-grade hostility for Goku for awhile - even though he has no intention of following his programming.
Hard to ignore the fact this is the same Android 17 that got stomped and absorbed by Imperfect Cell. For absolutely no good reason, he's just God Tier now lol
In the manga 17 got stronger by fighting cell jrs. that are on the island. While gohan destroyed the body of the cell jrs. he never got the cell cluster that keeps them from regenerating.
@arcticman6919 Even still. The remaining Cell Jr's shouldn't even scale to the "Super Perfect" Zenkai Boosted Cell that came back to earth after blowing himself up on King Kai's planet. Let's say they do...How about Majin Buu, Kid Buu, Super Buu (Ultimate Gohan Absorbed), SSJ3 Goku, and Base/Super Vegito. Basically, any main character in the Buu Arc including Piccolo should be stronger than him by several orders of magnitude even if he trained with Cell jrs on his island. His leap in power to contend with Goku (even in his base form) in DB Super is completely unjustified lol
@@stevelethal2910the cell jr will get stronger too and their part saiyan so they get stronger training with each other and you don’t know the cyborg potential
@Gucci-yz3nw Cell Jr's wouldn't get that strong. Also, how do you get stronger if you're not fighting stronger opponents over time? Obviously, Goku had better competition than Cell Jr's to justify his level of strength. I'm not questioning Android potential. I'm just saying it's lazy writing to say he got to God Tier strength by fighting some Cell Jr's on an island while Goku was saving the planet multiple times from Buu, Resurrected Frieza, and a literal God (Beerus).
You mean you could have moved the lookout the entire time?! YOU MEAN KAMI COULD HAVE MOVED THE LOOKOUT CLOSER TO WHERE VEGETA AND NAPPA WERE FIGHTING THE OTHERS IN PREPARATION FOR WHEN I GOT REVIVED?!
Dragon ball super doesnt make any sense are you implying that goku gaining the ssj blue which is equal to start of being god. Android 17 also possesses same? While goku trained with whiz, android 17 mere happened to be a god level fighter
Well both 17 and 18 had been made with infinite energy engines. It’s plausible that all this time he’s been storing it. He never gets tired. Doesn’t have to sleep. Doesn’t eat. And can fight forever. It’s not a stretch really
@@Nomethod64It is only because you shouldn’t be able to reach the level of gods just by staying awake constantly and taking care of animals. Either way, android 17 is way weaker since he couldn’t even faze toppo. Dbs has made goku and vegeta pretty weak tho. They do all this god ki training for any mortal with potential to overpower them on their first encounter
By that logic Cell should have never been defeated. Infinite energy and unlimited strength are two different concepts. They were always beatable. This is just lazy writing. @Nomethod64
They never actually met. Remember Goku had the heart virus while the androids were running free. By the time Goku was around and healed 17 was just getting absorbed by cell
@@xrawxlegitx2962 Broli definitely will get angry each time he sees Goku's face or even hear the name Kakarot. Don't forget that there were 2 saiyan girls who merged together only to get Broli's powers. and then God Goku defeated those 2.
This is the definition of me and my best friend once she moves back to near where I am since me and her live relatively far, we would both be complete idiots but still care for each other
Lol 🤣 Don't kill the men, just stop'em As if Goku would kill a human being And to think that 17 could have easily killed Frieza Gold in resurrection F movie
@@hrtv6883DBS Goku in his base form should have been able to completely obliterate 17 without trying. No need to transform. Canonically his power level at this point is essentially incalculable even before he transforms. Compared to the last time we see Android 17 in DBZ, Goku has achieved a power that should be unfathomable to him.
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17 the mvp!
If 16 was brought back training wit 17nhe would be the strongest android outta the 3
Android 16 would’ve been proud of 17 protecting the animals😊👍🏽💯
17 got influenced by Android 16
@@user-Natsu2001 Exactly😎👍🏽💯
I was about to say he is carrying on 16s wishes
So we're scaling this right? Right here. Right now.. 17 is stronger than Cell, Buu, Supreme Kai, Ultimate Gohan, Vegito, SSJ 3 and the damn Farmer with a Shotgon
Yup
He already had unlimited energy he just learned how to use it better
@capo900 that's what I was going to say...he's always had unlimited energy but he was young and wild when the Cell saga happened but just like everyone he's been able to train in mind and body
Only because Mr Popo allows if.
Never. Farmer with shotgun is atleast old testament god level
At least they didn't meet each other as enemies.
Why does 17 not remember goku from the android saga?
@@chaoshorn2654 They never met bro..
@@Marconel100 hoo rly? XD i havent watched dbz since i was a kid i dont remember
@@chaoshorn2654 Yeah lol, goku was hidden while he had the heart virus, so the androids couldn't find him while looking for him, and then the whole cell thing happened and the androids were gone lol
@@chaoshorn2654because Goku was sick with the heart virus at the time I think
17 protects nature because how android 16 loved nature i still don’t know why they didn’t bring back 16. Him and 17 woulda been nice working together.
It’s because Android 17 &18 were actually human before they were Androids. But 16 unfortunately was not he just designed after Dr. Gero’s son and not created from him💯
@@daelenevans2934 that don’t mean nun in the future they killed anything that was walking cell and trunks coming to the past change a lot of stuff including them 17&18.
@@daelenevans2934 But shenron was able to bring back 8er.
@@glassrockpurple154 Eighter was human bro was literally made after Frankenstein😎👍🏽😂😂😂
16 had his head smashed by cell
Are we gonna talk about this TH-cam title though ? WTF 🤨
17 is really taking 16's loss hard. Dude really respected and cared for him. This is 16's legacy. You see it again with 17 and Gohan fighting side by side, the two people 16 left to protect Earth.
Stop trying to make me cry. It’s almost working 😔
Love this episode, so refreshing seeing 17 again
"Well I'd be a Giant Monkey" - Goku
He is literally a giant monkey
The one thing I liked about this was that 17 was written to have a low-grade hostility for Goku for awhile - even though he has no intention of following his programming.
Ssj 2 is enough to destroy android 18
“Let’s just say I’ve heard it before” call back to the spirit bomb? Couldn’t remember if 17 giving energy was manga canon
Super is not canon.
@@Marcayling He meant when goku did the spirit bomb against buu, 17 gave his energy
Gero could have programmed goku's voice into 17's mind so he knows who he is.
Akira Toriyama said 17 heard Gokus voice while inside Cell.
Yea i was waiting for someone to point out the obvious. He was inside Cell. Goku fought Cell lol
Space mother sip...from dende... amazing...
Hard to ignore the fact this is the same Android 17 that got stomped and absorbed by Imperfect Cell. For absolutely no good reason, he's just God Tier now lol
In the manga 17 got stronger by fighting cell jrs. that are on the island. While gohan destroyed the body of the cell jrs. he never got the cell cluster that keeps them from regenerating.
@arcticman6919 Even still. The remaining Cell Jr's shouldn't even scale to the "Super Perfect" Zenkai Boosted Cell that came back to earth after blowing himself up on King Kai's planet. Let's say they do...How about Majin Buu, Kid Buu, Super Buu (Ultimate Gohan Absorbed), SSJ3 Goku, and Base/Super Vegito. Basically, any main character in the Buu Arc including Piccolo should be stronger than him by several orders of magnitude even if he trained with Cell jrs on his island. His leap in power to contend with Goku (even in his base form) in DB Super is completely unjustified lol
@@stevelethal2910the cell jr will get stronger too and their part saiyan so they get stronger training with each other and you don’t know the cyborg potential
@Gucci-yz3nw Cell Jr's wouldn't get that strong. Also, how do you get stronger if you're not fighting stronger opponents over time? Obviously, Goku had better competition than Cell Jr's to justify his level of strength. I'm not questioning Android potential. I'm just saying it's lazy writing to say he got to God Tier strength by fighting some Cell Jr's on an island while Goku was saving the planet multiple times from Buu, Resurrected Frieza, and a literal God (Beerus).
@@stevelethal2910 why wouldn’t cell jr get that strong their baby cells??
That's a hell of a video title
You mean you could have moved the lookout the entire time?! YOU MEAN KAMI COULD HAVE MOVED THE LOOKOUT CLOSER TO WHERE VEGETA AND NAPPA WERE FIGHTING THE OTHERS IN PREPARATION FOR WHEN I GOT REVIVED?!
it wouldnt move korins tower, which means goku wouldnt have gotten any senzus
@PapyrusStrocityVA if they planned it out, he could have given them to Kami before he moved the lookout.
They weren’t going to do that anyway because Mr. Popo was making toast🤦🏽♂️😂😂😂
I had forgotten how cracked his theme is.
Dragon ball super doesnt make any sense are you implying that goku gaining the ssj blue which is equal to start of being god. Android 17 also possesses same? While goku trained with whiz, android 17 mere happened to be a god level fighter
Well both 17 and 18 had been made with infinite energy engines. It’s plausible that all this time he’s been storing it. He never gets tired. Doesn’t have to sleep. Doesn’t eat. And can fight forever. It’s not a stretch really
@@Nomethod64It is only because you shouldn’t be able to reach the level of gods just by staying awake constantly and taking care of animals. Either way, android 17 is way weaker since he couldn’t even faze toppo. Dbs has made goku and vegeta pretty weak tho. They do all this god ki training for any mortal with potential to overpower them on their first encounter
By that logic Cell should have never been defeated. Infinite energy and unlimited strength are two different concepts. They were always beatable. This is just lazy writing. @Nomethod64
8:57 Didn’t Goku forget in the Buu saga that if you are already dead and if you die again, you will be erased from existence
This is DBS Goku we're talking about. DBZ Goku would have been more considerate.
That's a dub error.
Bro king kai was already in haven and died there and still there idk why he be on goku case like that 😂😂
Because king Kai can't go to certain places and the other kais be roasting him for it
Goku said I'll be a giant monkey. Love the irony
Super kami dende
This was everything for us OG fans
5:35 looks like saitama saying ok
All that training with whis goes into gutter 😂 bro everybodys whooping those God transformation
dont think he was going all out tbh , but yes i think they direspect the forms a lot
@@lordvader7372pure disrespect. He’s 1000% not going full power.
They mention uub in that scene originally
17 telling goku not to kill people is craaaaazy 😂
Especially since He and 18 did so so nonchalantly when they were hunting for Goku and Of course the other timeline.
Dende playing Actraiser:
"Well, I'll be a giant monkey" - Goku
Friendly fire, right there. Its around 10:00, maybe a little earlier or later.
Wonder What would vegeta do if 17 told him don't kill the men just stop them.
They seem to have forgotten each other from the Cell story arc.
They never actually met. Remember Goku had the heart virus while the androids were running free. By the time Goku was around and healed 17 was just getting absorbed by cell
@@the1nonly_481 It's been a while since I watched the show. I was thinking they had met at least once.
@@user-be9hv3pj1uthey never met he just knows of Goku bc of his programming and he heard his voice during the kid Buu spirit bomb episodes
@acewoodson8512 yeah it's too bad he didn't give any energy to help with the sprit bomb, he has unlimited energy so that would've help alot
man, this structure flies like the jade chamber from genshin impact.
17 is the hiei of dbs even though they share the same voice actor in english 😊
I knew i recognized the voice!
@@ZackIAmalso Dende is Yusuke and also Kirishima in My Hero Academia
Epic
Someone definitely died in those tank explosions
OK WHEN THE HELL COULD THE LOOKOUT MOVE?
What happened to the power pole after he moved the look out? Tune in next time to find out on Dragonbal Z!
YeaaaAAa
Best of luck ❤️❤️
Good job
Kakarot face it's insane
Lol goku always want to fight
Power scalling in this episode sucks, at least the manga is more coherent than the lazy anime.
this is unexpected... 17 was freed from cell's clutches...
Everyone who watched dragon ball knows that
Nice
why do poachers have a ww2 wehrmacht mlrs?
how was 17 able to stand on king kai's planet when it has 10x gravtiy of earth
He has been training in his island, so ofcourse he's stronger as he can withstand SSJ blue Goku.
Should have chosen Broli in the team, I don't know why Toriyama limited him to movies
Bro cmon man they don't even know him yet
@@xrawxlegitx2962 Broli definitely will get angry each time he sees Goku's face or even hear the name Kakarot. Don't forget that there were 2 saiyan girls who merged together only to get Broli's powers. and then God Goku defeated those 2.
@@hp2546 your point is?
@@hp2546what no one of them had a berserk form just like broly and also the canon broly don’t hate goku
16 would have loved this😢😂
The animals must be like who the fuck are these guys😂
This just reminds me of how much super sucks
This is the definition of me and my best friend once she moves back to near where I am since me and her live relatively far, we would both be complete idiots but still care for each other
Lol 🤣 Don't kill the men, just stop'em
As if Goku would kill a human being
And to think that 17 could have easily killed Frieza Gold in resurrection F movie
Living alone in Island and people come and go.
They made super saiyan blue a complete joke
That's right. It looks like super saiyan and super saiyan blue the same level 😂
@@hrtv6883DBS Goku in his base form should have been able to completely obliterate 17 without trying. No need to transform. Canonically his power level at this point is essentially incalculable even before he transforms. Compared to the last time we see Android 17 in DBZ, Goku has achieved a power that should be unfathomable to him.
This is so much BS... SSJ2 would be more than enough to overpower that piece of trash of 17
Dragon ball z ruined
Stop crying
Lol imagine if
Kakarot
What episode is this?
86
So in Super there was no Cell Saga ? How did Hoku not KNOW 17 ?
He never met him in dragon ball dude he was in a coma
God, the animation is... shit....
Whats wrong with it
This is an ugly episode
If Frieza there ...He will kill all soldier 😅