i bet bro saw havoc's video too at this point every weapon in this game is one of the strongest weapons in the game i suggest a new series, "Worst weapons made great!" where you take stuff that objectively sucks and feels bad to use and find a way to make them bearable. Not great, just bearable, the "great" is just there for clickbait.
Our lord and savior Ayun Tey also did that with Ghoulsaw a while ago, but I don't think it was a series Also, I think this "shit weapons gone wild" idea would go well with how laid-back and chill your videos mostly are
Sorry in advance I kind of got excited And made a long comment. I feel called out by this idea. I was always more attracted to the things that people won't really already aware of was good. Panthers was one But once again it's prime they managed to make it worse. It's one of those weapons that did not get the power creep. People did not realize that it used to have base infinite punch through with its basic fire. It didn't have the best critical all right status. But beefing up damaged fire rate and multi-shot basically corrected it's critical issue. And made it addictive as hell because of its punch through. It was like the aqua plasma but with insane range. And slashing. Awesome love how multi shot and heavy caliber creative a huge cone that pretty much did not miss anything. Just creating ricocheting buzz sauce all over the place. But now thanks to the prime. It can no longer have punched through on its primary fire because of the radio damage. And multi-shot is turning visible on that weapon. The time you can't make good use of it or crocheting. The current show that they can make panthera good. If that take a page from the dual toxickis incarnons form. Nothing can benefit from punch through and basically has a radius damage. It's ricochet in prioritizes headshots. So punch through basically becomes additional multi-shot while also scaling with base multi-shot. It's f****** ridiculous. Every penetrated enemy generates an additional projectile that seeks head and this council multi-shot. As I said you're basically multiplying your multi-shot. Almost forgot to mention that the the Target in ricocheting shots reset its passive.
Another super cool thing about the nami solo is that the machete stance neutral combo knocks enemies down AND hits headshots for super super super aggressive melee afflictions scaling
Follow through and punch through are two of the most underrated stats especially for kpm, click bait youtubers make number go big builds when in fact higher kpm is much more important in warframe
@@callumprice1710 have u played warframe in 2024? most frames and weapons can put out good to insane damage, kpm is always important for efficiency cause warframe is a farming game
@@spoiler1828 yes but after you have enough kpm to last in survival solo on steel path, more kpm doesn't really do much. Which again is the same as damage numbers.
Nami Solo is THE melee influence weapon because of the 100% followthrough, every single electric status has 100% base damage and it scales insanely (hundreds of million on enemies). Building Nami Solo for anything other than melee influence + electric (+viral) is just incredibly questionable.
@@WispGraxx sorry mate, I appreciate the effort, but you are not looking into nami solo melee influence correctly. Volt with Roar on #4. Just with precision intensify, blind rage, storm trooper on volt with arcane fury. Nami solo with weeping wounds, blood lust, viral, melee elementalist, reach, gladiator might and a free flex slot (or electric if not playing volt) and melee influence. Don't need CO because arcane fury + incarnon is enough +damage%. This setup will kill level cap enemies in a fraction of a second/instantly because the electric DOT scales into absolut absurdity and deals damage immediatly. Is it need to clear content? No. Is there a better melee influence build? No, unless you really want cloud walker. Make sure to use the extra status chance on last evolution for roughly 2 status proccs per attack per enemy. By the way, best Nami Solo Riven would be: +range +toxin/cold (+CD, +DMG or +SC as third) -slash (yes minus) for a melee influence build to hit more enemies and be able to drop toxin or cold 60/60 and increase the weighting for electric as high as possible. Edit: meant as a serious build discussion, not to throw shade or anything. really appreciate your effort and time spend on making warframe content.
its not that large no, follow through is the reason nepheri and tekko prime are one of the most powerful weapons in the game imo. The difference of 10% doesn't become very noticable cause its gonna be most of the time over 75% of your total damage. This is also why innodem is THAT strong for kpm. A very good candidate for melee vortex aswell
@@WispGraxx Hmmm, neat. I ask because I have a cd range toxin -cc on slide Rakta Dark Dagger riven floating around, I'll probably give it a go w/ melee vortex cause of this vid
@@WispGraxx what's the current playstyle for Nepheri? I haven't used them since around when they came out and there's been A LOT of new melee stuff added since so i'm curious on your opinion for a setup
I feel like some weapons, mods and arcanes get over looked by a lot of people (im kinda guilty of this as well) because looking at the stats or other factors it doesn't seem attractive so they don't use it until they see videos like this and it being used, for me it was arcane vortex i didn't see anyone make any videos about it so i wrote it off until i saw this vid.
I made this build right as the succ arcane came out, its so good. If i might suggest another fun build, tho not very innovative, Halikar wraith with melee influence. Normal glaive heavy build, just one electric mod, throw normally, and if the normal throw procs influence, which it will most times, explode it, and because it does blast dmg, enemies that are even remotely close together will explode instantly. Its not stronger then xoris, but for most content its actually faster, because the enemies dont die from a dot proc, but from an instant explosion.
People ignore follow through as a stat, not the weapon. This is also why you see people running with the combo duration upgrade instead making the weapon way worse than it should be
Range plus follow through is what i look for in melees. This, indodem (plus you throw shurikens!) the bo prime are my favourites when it comes to combo based melees. I do want to try a vortex build on it, but i think its unnecessary due to its cracked range. Blast/gas influence it is!
wow wtf is even the point of a whip weapon lol. im guessing it didnt used to be that way before, i remember watching a vid long time ago on how good atterax was
I'm honestly extremely surprised with the amount of Wisps that you have and I really need to know why do you have so many and what do you do with so many of them.
i bet bro saw havoc's video too
at this point every weapon in this game is one of the strongest weapons in the game
i suggest a new series, "Worst weapons made great!" where you take stuff that objectively sucks and feels bad to use and find a way to make them bearable. Not great, just bearable, the "great" is just there for clickbait.
it do be like that in warframe :3
Edit: Just saw your edit and that sounds like a good idea, maybe we even find hidden gems through that
Our lord and savior Ayun Tey also did that with Ghoulsaw a while ago, but I don't think it was a series
Also, I think this "shit weapons gone wild" idea would go well with how laid-back and chill your videos mostly are
@@WispGraxx it's a lot of hidden gems in this game or weapon that need a update build to bring it up to speed
Sorry in advance I kind of got excited
And made a long comment.
I feel called out by this idea.
I was always more attracted to the things that people won't really already aware of was good.
Panthers was one
But once again it's prime they managed to make it worse.
It's one of those weapons that did not get the power creep.
People did not realize that it used to have base infinite punch through with its basic fire.
It didn't have the best critical all right status.
But beefing up damaged fire rate and multi-shot basically corrected it's critical issue. And made it addictive as hell because of its punch through.
It was like the aqua plasma but with insane range.
And slashing.
Awesome love how multi shot and heavy caliber creative a huge cone that pretty much did not miss anything.
Just creating ricocheting buzz sauce all over the place.
But now thanks to the prime.
It can no longer have punched through on its primary fire because of the radio damage.
And multi-shot is turning visible on that weapon.
The time you can't make good use of it or crocheting.
The current show that they can make panthera good.
If that take a page from the dual toxickis incarnons form.
Nothing can benefit from punch through and basically has a radius damage.
It's ricochet in prioritizes headshots.
So punch through basically becomes additional multi-shot while also scaling with base multi-shot.
It's f****** ridiculous.
Every penetrated enemy generates an additional projectile that seeks head and this council multi-shot.
As I said you're basically multiplying your multi-shot.
Almost forgot to mention that the the Target in ricocheting shots reset its passive.
Ghoulsaw (while technically not a weapon because its closer to a pile of dogshit) also has 1 follow through.
oh dang i had no idea, so that makes it 4 with wukong's staff
@@WispGraxx It's not just Iron Staff, all exalted melee weapons have 1.0 follow through.
Another super cool thing about the nami solo is that the machete stance neutral combo knocks enemies down AND hits headshots for super super super aggressive melee afflictions scaling
Moug, 1 more video that isn’t a wukong guide and I’m rioting /s
Karma you wont see me on Wukong ever. Over my dead body and that is NOT a joke
@@WispGraxxbased take
Nah, you should have done a slam wukong guide before it gets nerfed
@@tommyroselius2941you could have done it doe and get the benefits
@@WispGraxxI honestly be forgetting about wukong but I forgot that's 2 frames I don't like.
technically not a weapon, but wu's iron staff also has 100% follow through
Follow through and punch through are two of the most underrated stats especially for kpm, click bait youtubers make number go big builds when in fact higher kpm is much more important in warframe
Kpm only applies up to a point, which means its the same as big damage in that it only applies up to a point.
but me like number go big :(
@@callumprice1710 have u played warframe in 2024? most frames and weapons can put out good to insane damage, kpm is always important for efficiency cause warframe is a farming game
@@spoiler1828 yes but after you have enough kpm to last in survival solo on steel path, more kpm doesn't really do much. Which again is the same as damage numbers.
Nami Solo is THE melee influence weapon because of the 100% followthrough, every single electric status has 100% base damage and it scales insanely (hundreds of million on enemies). Building Nami Solo for anything other than melee influence + electric (+viral) is just incredibly questionable.
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Here you go. Now start building other weapons for influence that do what nami solo does but better
@@WispGraxx sorry mate, I appreciate the effort, but you are not looking into nami solo melee influence correctly. Volt with Roar on #4. Just with precision intensify, blind rage, storm trooper on volt with arcane fury. Nami solo with weeping wounds, blood lust, viral, melee elementalist, reach, gladiator might and a free flex slot (or electric if not playing volt) and melee influence. Don't need CO because arcane fury + incarnon is enough +damage%. This setup will kill level cap enemies in a fraction of a second/instantly because the electric DOT scales into absolut absurdity and deals damage immediatly. Is it need to clear content? No. Is there a better melee influence build? No, unless you really want cloud walker.
Make sure to use the extra status chance on last evolution for roughly 2 status proccs per attack per enemy.
By the way, best Nami Solo Riven would be: +range +toxin/cold (+CD, +DMG or +SC as third) -slash (yes minus) for a melee influence build to hit more enemies and be able to drop toxin or cold 60/60 and increase the weighting for electric as high as possible.
Edit: meant as a serious build discussion, not to throw shade or anything. really appreciate your effort and time spend on making warframe content.
Don't most daggers have really high follow through as well? Is the difference between 90% and 100% that large?
its not that large no, follow through is the reason nepheri and tekko prime are one of the most powerful weapons in the game imo. The difference of 10% doesn't become very noticable cause its gonna be most of the time over 75% of your total damage. This is also why innodem is THAT strong for kpm. A very good candidate for melee vortex aswell
@@WispGraxx Hmmm, neat. I ask because I have a cd range toxin -cc on slide Rakta Dark Dagger riven floating around, I'll probably give it a go w/ melee vortex cause of this vid
@@pigslayer275 rakta dark dagger is such an underrated weapon, the shield regen on it is crazy
@@WispGraxx what's the current playstyle for Nepheri? I haven't used them since around when they came out and there's been A LOT of new melee stuff added since so i'm curious on your opinion for a setup
@@Mandingy24in the lab I go
so we're posting this RIGHT after the incarnon goes away OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN (jk good vid goat)
WOULD X 31
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
mfs when status cc melee build doesn’t use influence
Will try it, Also is it a big difference betyween rank 1 arcane on the nami solo and max rank?
Ye it is.. the % of the chance to pull enemies in goes up
I feel like some weapons, mods and arcanes get over looked by a lot of people (im kinda guilty of this as well) because looking at the stats or other factors it doesn't seem attractive so they don't use it until they see videos like this and it being used, for me it was arcane vortex i didn't see anyone make any videos about it so i wrote it off until i saw this vid.
hey moug, what do you think about koumei? are you interested in her apparent kit or meh?
dude im gonna main, i am all about gamba
I made this build right as the succ arcane came out, its so good. If i might suggest another fun build, tho not very innovative, Halikar wraith with melee influence. Normal glaive heavy build, just one electric mod, throw normally, and if the normal throw procs influence, which it will most times, explode it, and because it does blast dmg, enemies that are even remotely close together will explode instantly. Its not stronger then xoris, but for most content its actually faster, because the enemies dont die from a dot proc, but from an instant explosion.
What mod you using on it?😮😮
@@ArcHameris Nothing special, what exactly did you mean? The 60/60 mod for electric, and melee elementalist for more blast dmg are important.
Who is ignoring Nami Solo? Everyone knows its cracked.
People ignore follow through as a stat, not the weapon. This is also why you see people running with the combo duration upgrade instead making the weapon way worse than it should be
Range plus follow through is what i look for in melees. This, indodem (plus you throw shurikens!) the bo prime are my favourites when it comes to combo based melees.
I do want to try a vortex build on it, but i think its unnecessary due to its cracked range. Blast/gas influence it is!
RAAHH build videos for kulstar, paracyst and the quatz. Pretty please :beg:
Doorclave is pure slash so it's really strong with melee afflictions
What is better if they both have no riven, hate or harmony?
Heavy attack glaive explosion has 8m radius and doesn't care about this. Xoris has 10m radius.
Instructions unclear, -211% crit chance on riven
wow wtf is even the point of a whip weapon lol. im guessing it didnt used to be that way before, i remember watching a vid long time ago on how good atterax was
I'm honestly extremely surprised with the amount of Wisps that you have and I really need to know why do you have so many and what do you do with so many of them.
Each one has a different purpose. Basically different formas and a lot more configs. Its impossible to fit all of them in 1 wisp
imagine using this with tekko which has 90% follow through
Tekko is my favorite melee in the game dedass
@@WispGraxx will this be viable with the exact same build on tekko or do I have to make some changes on the build?
it's what i use with Volt for general content, a range riven and its range incarnon then its Hold E and run to win. my nami has 14 range LOL
yeah no ur wrong about that
Very interesting, I choose melee Crescendo glaive go boom.
i have a +heat +range +attack speed riven for elec blast 20 procs 1 swing
What do you guys think cestra and dera will be like
Do you have five wisp primes???
@@jonathanh.2483 yes
Show us the plasmor
bro your riven is not good at all and that's no peak performance
Is that...163 forma wisp???
That's why our boy is on the verge of poverty in every single video 😭