@@BisayangKano and dont forget to picture us on the other side of the recording studio glass smiling and silently cheering him on. Imagination is beautiful.
This is how great music is suppose to sound, nothing fake. Every sound here was made by a person and not by a computer-hell, they didn't exist. This is a great post and if there is any more, by all means post it.
This is something I never thought I could hear some day. When I was 11, and La Bamba movie came on, Los Lobos version was the only to hear everywhere. I called many times to radio stations and asked for Ritchie's version and just once they played it. Thanks for sharing this piece of history. Cheers!
Eduardo . Mondragón D I feel your pain, i heard Richie's version once on a tv special some 18 years ago, and i only could hear it again when TH-cam came along.
I was just thinking today of the first time i saw his real face crazy how you can like someone so much through their story. Without even seeing them or hearing their real voice
Nothin but Great!! These r the first notes I ever learned on guitar a guy who worked for me from Mexico tough me did not speak real good English but played like the wind Rocky and the Hurricanes lead singer and rythem Guitar 🎸
when you can take a Mexican folk song and turn into into a top 100 rock in roll song of all time means he had so much talent and it's said to think what could have been...
saya masih mendengarkan di tahun 2023. luar biasa enak menyenangkan lagu ini. Luar biasa Richie Valens usia 16 - 17 tahun lagunya diciptakannya masih popular sampai sekarang . tidak lekang oleh waktu.
I loved his music ! He was way ahead of his time. Incredible talent !!! Rock music was inside of Ritchie. It makes us wonder what his future on the earth would have been like ? It was music that got our toes tapping...and we jumped up and danced as if there was something new inside of us. Ritchie had that inside of him ! Awesome...is all I can say.
Ritchie definitely did the solo on la bamba , crazy how you can hear it in beginning and through out as he creating and improving it until the final take where he makes it sounds very nice !
Need to play more Richie Valens, Buddy Holly and, Big Bopper music🎤🎼🎹🎶 people miss it and want to hear them, want to hear their sound and songs, we miss them, it would be great to hear them on radio again ❤❤
man at the 5,40 mark..it sounds like the poor kids voice hadn't even changed yet, very rare to hear him speak, i can only imagine how bad that tour had to be for him to jump on a plane, just to get warm, damit......we know the rest, thanks for sharing this, pictures and recordings are really the most brilliant thing thought of other than catching a peice of lightning from the sky, they freeze time for that moment and recordings are really like a time machine, only sadly often times the ones in them are gone
Transcript: (Ritchie on Stratocaster playing the melody, showing his barritone player, René Hall René Hall: Ok Earl Palmer: Make sure to give us the break before we get to it. (Referring to the beginning intro of the song) Bob Keane? : Uh, you get the breaks, uhm- (Muffled by the barritone player, René Hall and Ritchie Valens practicing the beginning) (Talking to René Hall/Ritchie Valens) Earl Palmer: But I can que it on the- (Ritchie Valens palm-muting the melody on his stratocaster) Bob Keane?: Here we go kids, La Bamba, take one, uno. (Can't fit the whole thing in a singular comment because youtube but that's the beginning context)
When music was music. Songs were songs not computerized. When bands were formed not created put together by record companies. This recording should be released on record.
A beautiful song. Much like Buddy Holly did, Ritchie, had to work hard overcome the stiff formula driven music execs to get out what he knew would be popular. Geniuses who changed the face of music.
According to multiple sources the session consisted of Ritchie - rhythm guitar Carol Kaye - rhythm guitar Rene Hall (the late,great) - Danelectro (and featured solo) Earl Palmer - drums If you want to hear Carol Kaye knock it out of the park on the Bass Guitar check out the song Hikky Burr.
His manager said Richie never sang song the same way every time he did something different and he never wrote anything down imagine if he write some things down good ideas h may have forgotten
I sounds like they have an electric bass playing the riff but with the treble turned all the way up, and a stand up bass and of course guitar. Damn, this is amazing.
They call it a Danelectro 6-string baritone guitar, which has that James Bond Theme guitar sound. I've heard of Danelectro 6-string bass (for instance, used on Beach Boys Fun, Fun, Fun), and I'm unsure whether they are really different or the same, as I've never seen or heard either live. There's also an acoustic bass. The famous Wrecking Crew bassist, Carol Kaye, is actually playing rhythm guitar on this.
That's Rene Hall on Danelectro. Carol Kaye played acoustic rhythm guitar and is completely inaudible in the final mix, as she wasn't even mic'd. I don't know why there's such a trend of giving Carol Kaye credit for things she didn't do, but it should probably stop.
red callendar on upright i believe. most of the guys that featured on eddie cochran's and ricky nelson's records at gold star studios in california. early wrecking crew
Whoa I had no idea about this. I just looked it up. The guitar parts and sound on Ritchie Valens' La Bamba has always sounded perfect. No one plays it the same, not even Los Lobos.
@atomicbootsy Wow How cool is that for you? This was one of the saddess days in music history. Where's your dad now? I live near DONNA She'sa r eal Estate Agent in Sacramento Ca area
1/I read that Valens' first recordings were made in March,1958. I can't find anything recorded before La Bamba. Was La Bamba recorded in March? If so, Valens was 16! 2/Did Carol Kaye or Valens play the guitar solo? She's listed as "acoustic rhythm guitar", & the other guitarist plays a baritone guitar, tuned too low for those solo's notes. I can't hear if there's a third guitar or not, which would be Valens'.
This is very interesting. Had ritchie fired bob keen as his manager and got hired on with Desi arnez hed still be alive today and so would the big bopper and buddy hollie
Rene Hall is on a Danelectro 6-string bass, which is like a baritone introing the tune. Valens is on regular guitar, Carole Kaye is on rhythm guitar, Buddy Clark is on stand-up bass, and Earl Palmer is on drums.
This is already established. Rene Hall was using his Danelectro 6-string bass. He was a pioneer in using this instrument which came out in 1956. Later, many session guitar players had one as a common choice. It is why many covers done today of tunes of that era just don't sound right, as they always try to substitute a regular electric bass for the Dan-O.
There is no electric bass on this track. There's an upright bass by Buddy Clark and a baritone Danelectro by Rene. Studios that specialized in Country and Tex-Mex Western employed baritone guitarists to thicken up the sound, since upright bass had a hard time competing with amplified instruments. The P-Bass eventually overtook both instruments, but didn't catch on until the early sixties due to several factors. The price of a P-Bass was prohibitive, for one, and you could buy five Danelectros for the price of one P-Bass. Amplification was also an issue; Fender was the only company making amps for electric bass, and their price was high and quality was suspect. In comparison, a Danelectro could be played through any guitar amp. Finally, Danelectro stopped making their Baritone guitars, and the supply eventually dried up. This was at the time that the price of a P-Bass had come down significantly. Many companies were making bass amps as well. Most studio Danelectro musicians migrated over to the P-Bass and the Jazz Bass, but several Country & Western studios still employed Fender Bass VI sidemen up until the late seventies.
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Robert Hunter the reclusive former lyricist of the Grateful Dead once played the role of Ritchie Valens. The name, The Grateful Dead, is appropriate. They faked their deaths and became grateful to get out of their record contracts. They also made everyone very rich in the process. When word got out to the public that Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens allegedly died in a plane crash in Clear Lake, Iowa, their records literally flew off the shelves, and they became immortalized through the legend crafting process... These staged performances go on quite a bit, especially when older rock stars become unproductive and want out of their public circus cages, they'll hire a PR firm, kill off their old personas by faking a death, as they regain a sense of normalcy and balance within the relative anonymity of the private sector. Robert wrote his most famous song called "Ripple," here's a famous line in the song. "Can you hear my voice come through the music?" Yes, Ritchie, I not only heard your voice but also recognized your facial features, your guitars and guitar playing style. Ironically, both Ritchie and the character he's now playing Robert Hunter, were born in 1941, 41 days apart, in southern California... They sure know how to entertain us, don't they?
Richie Valens Guitar
Buddy Clark (string bass);
Ernie Freeman (piano);
Carol Kaye (acoustic rhythm guitar)
René Hall (Danelectro six-string baritone guitar)
Earl Palmer (drums and claves).
I think there’s a conga player too 🤔
I wish there was video footage of this....
RITCHIE would of rocked the 60s R.I.P!
just close your eyes and imagine! It is enough!
@@BisayangKano and dont forget to picture us on the other side of the recording studio glass smiling and silently cheering him on. Imagination is beautiful.
He was really the last real rocker of that era
This is how great music is suppose to sound, nothing fake. Every sound here was made by a person and not by a computer-hell, they didn't exist. This is a great post and if there is any more, by all means post it.
+Rick Miller I downloaded the cd online. Shhhhhh The cd is a bit on the expensive side.
I bought the CD with all of Richie Valens known material on it, it is great.
This audio is gold.
This is something I never thought I could hear some day. When I was 11, and La Bamba movie came on, Los Lobos version was the only to hear everywhere. I called many times to radio stations and asked for Ritchie's version and just once they played it. Thanks for sharing this piece of history. Cheers!
Eduardo . Mondragón D I feel your pain, i heard Richie's version once on a tv special some 18 years ago, and i only could hear it again when TH-cam came along.
I totally relate man...what a great find!
I was just thinking today of the first time i saw his real face crazy how you can like someone so much through their story. Without even seeing them or hearing their real voice
It's really sad that the Los Lobos version is the only version that's ever played on the radio.
Nothin but Great!! These r the first notes I ever learned on guitar a guy who worked for me from Mexico tough me did not speak real good English but played like the wind Rocky and the Hurricanes lead singer and rythem Guitar 🎸
This is still amazing in 2022! I'm now teaching my son about Ritchie and his music
Never would have thought after watching la Bamba in theatres I’d be here 30 yrs later
Me too.
when you can take a Mexican folk song and turn into into a top 100 rock in roll song of all time means he had so much talent and it's said to think what could have been...
Words cannot express how grateful i am for this recording and video thankyou so much.
In order to grasp the greatness of Ritchie on this Session, keep in mind he was only 17!!!!!
saya masih mendengarkan di tahun 2023. luar biasa enak menyenangkan lagu ini. Luar biasa Richie Valens usia 16 - 17 tahun lagunya diciptakannya masih popular sampai sekarang . tidak lekang oleh waktu.
I loved his music ! He was way ahead of his time. Incredible talent !!! Rock music was inside of Ritchie. It makes us wonder what his future on the earth would have been like ? It was music that got our toes tapping...and we jumped up and danced as if there was something new inside of us. Ritchie had that inside of him ! Awesome...is all I can say.
Truly a piece of music history right there!!! R.I.P. Ritchie. Another artist yet gone too soon......
One year before he died. RIP Ritchie. 💔
This is sooooo cool!!
You can BARELY hear the vocals but you can still make out most of the stuff!!
I agree... A great part of history!
I listen to it all. Will do it again. Wonderful to hear them working together on a master piece. Great stuff.
Another great musical backing by the Wrecking Crew!! Carol Kaye was the one playing guitar.
Ritchie definitely did the solo on la bamba , crazy how you can hear it in beginning and through out as he creating and improving it until the final take where he makes it sounds very nice !
After listening to this about 50 times, i realized that they wound up speeding it back up.
What a magical session
And so...the three chords: C F G was turned to rock and still lives to this day...Twist and Shout!!!!!
CD: Ritchie Valens - The Lost Tapes
Need to play more Richie Valens, Buddy Holly and, Big Bopper music🎤🎼🎹🎶 people miss it and want to hear them, want to hear their sound and songs, we miss them, it would be great to hear them on radio again ❤❤
wow awesome just awesome.. incredibly awesome 😎👍😎..
its amazing to hear something recorded 50 years ago
Gracias Por Subir ESTA JOYA MUSICAL DE EL GRAN RICHIE VALENS 🤗🤗🤗
man at the 5,40 mark..it sounds like the poor kids voice hadn't even changed yet, very rare to hear him speak, i can only imagine how bad that tour had to be for him to jump on a plane, just to get warm, damit......we know the rest, thanks for sharing this, pictures and recordings are really the most brilliant thing thought of other than catching a peice of lightning from the sky, they freeze time for that moment and recordings are really like a time machine, only sadly often times the ones in them are gone
I love these studio things on how stars would make their records.
I hope to be just like him one day
One day man that would be great
Transcript:
(Ritchie on Stratocaster playing the melody, showing his barritone player, René Hall
René Hall: Ok
Earl Palmer: Make sure to give us the break before we get to it. (Referring to the beginning intro of the song)
Bob Keane? : Uh, you get the breaks, uhm- (Muffled by the barritone player, René Hall and Ritchie Valens practicing the beginning)
(Talking to René Hall/Ritchie Valens) Earl Palmer: But I can que it on the-
(Ritchie Valens palm-muting the melody on his stratocaster)
Bob Keane?: Here we go kids, La Bamba, take one, uno.
(Can't fit the whole thing in a singular comment because youtube but that's the beginning context)
hearing the original version, I'm pretty sure the voice track was recorded over the take 8 this studio session. So neat, that is rock n roll
Exactly track 8
I loved this whole album.
When music was music. Songs were songs not computerized. When bands were formed not created put together by record companies. This recording should be released on record.
this riff gave birth to twist and shout..might be one of the best riffs in rock and roll
Gave birth? More like one of the biggest rip,offs in music history 😂
Fantastic. Rock and Roll history being written.
16 yrs old when he did this.
He was not, he was 17
This is fascinating, thanks for sharing!!❤️
A beautiful song. Much like Buddy Holly did, Ritchie, had to work hard overcome the stiff formula driven music execs to get out what he knew would be popular. Geniuses who changed the face of music.
Carol Kay was a amazing session bassist, did work for the beach boys and Sinatra umong others
Carole Kaye played rhythm guitar on this track from all of the information I have read about the recording sessions with Ritchie Valens.
@@hutchabilly107 Is this at Gold Star LA?
@@hutchabilly107 exactly, I was wondering who the fuck was playing that other guitar, then remembered it was her!1
According to multiple sources the session consisted of
Ritchie - rhythm guitar
Carol Kaye - rhythm guitar
Rene Hall (the late,great) - Danelectro (and featured solo)
Earl Palmer - drums
If you want to hear Carol Kaye knock it out of the park on the Bass Guitar check out the song Hikky Burr.
A fantastic piece of Rock N Roll history.Can`t recommend this Cd enough!
god bless the memory of Ricardo Valenzuela
WOW!!! This is amazing, great to hear! Thanks for sharing this, I Love it!
Fantastic
Thank you for posting this!!!
Priceless.💔 RIP.
4:52 i like how you can hear him sing high when he sings
Excellent to hear such a recording how they use to record i been recorded in 2004 a cd my parts was lead guitar done in one take most of it cool stuff
VALENS A TRUE ICON
6:33 this beat goes hella hard
Beautiful part of history
I wonder if his brother Bob was there...this was history been made..
Awesome cd!
Piko thanks for sharing this.
The thing that would improve this video is photos.
His manager said Richie never sang song the same way every time he did something different and he never wrote anything down imagine if he write some things down good ideas h may have forgotten
Wow! He was only 17 when he died....what a shame!
I love this 😌✌️
I sounds like they have an electric bass playing the riff but with the treble turned all the way up, and a stand up bass and of course guitar. Damn, this is amazing.
+Georgie Thumbs - Oh damn they got a piano in it as well!
They call it a Danelectro 6-string baritone guitar, which has that James Bond Theme guitar sound. I've heard of Danelectro 6-string bass (for instance, used on Beach Boys Fun, Fun, Fun), and I'm unsure whether they are really different or the same, as I've never seen or heard either live. There's also an acoustic bass. The famous Wrecking Crew bassist, Carol Kaye, is actually playing rhythm guitar on this.
+Georgie Thumbs Yeah i heard it and i was really suprised
wasnt a bass as such it was a 6 string deangelo bass and they have thinner strings
Carol Kaye on the pick up on the Dan Electro! Respect!
That's Rene Hall on Danelectro. Carol Kaye played acoustic rhythm guitar and is completely inaudible in the final mix, as she wasn't even mic'd. I don't know why there's such a trend of giving Carol Kaye credit for things she didn't do, but it should probably stop.
@@RockandrollNegro Carol was & is the best session musician, regardless. People make mistakes sometimes geez, lighten up.
O Brasil te ama vc não morreu sempre estara vivo
That's awsome
rene hall and carol kaye on the guitars , earl palmer on drums, other insturments were doulbe bass and piano
red callendar on upright i believe. most of the guys that featured on eddie cochran's and ricky nelson's records at gold star studios in california. early wrecking crew
Sou fã do rither valles aos 17 anos quando o filme foi lançado assisti no cinema 5 vezes.
That take at 6:27 sounds like the one we have all heard. The right strumming to give it that iconic intro
6:26 pretty sure this is the official instrumental
You hear his voice so not really
Chuck Berry in the background telling ritchie not to start the way he did with the opening
I think that's Rene Hall.
@@hugovasquez9952 yes I think you are right 🤔
Whoa I had no idea about this. I just looked it up. The guitar parts and sound on Ritchie Valens' La Bamba has always sounded perfect. No one plays it the same, not even Los Lobos.
@@jonathanhardesty9625 take a peek at Ryan Sheeler's book - Ritchie Valens His Guitars and his Music. It includes tabs for Ritchie's solo on La Bamba.
I can hear singing in back ground
Kane Limburg yeah that's Ritchie
it was recorded live (vocals the same time as instruments) so his voice is probably picked up from the drum mic
Cool Stuff
Get the book - The Oracle Of Del-Fi. A great history lesson on this. I have 2 copies autographed by Bob Keane.
I'll buy a copy.Name your price
Fantástico!.
maravilhoso
Carol kay on the guitar.
❤️
Mencato ensallo ritchie valens
@atomicbootsy Wow How cool is that for you? This was one of the saddess days in music history. Where's your dad now? I live near DONNA She'sa r eal Estate Agent in Sacramento Ca area
I desperately need the tab to that solo at 0:07:30
You Go Boy Well Man Now lol If You Lived
A rare recording where'd you get it
Aww
cool
2020:)
Sixty takes, I didn’t hear a difference in one of them
2021
Fascinating. Sounds like Take 8 might have been 'the one', but someone will probably correct me.
1/I read that Valens' first recordings were made in March,1958. I can't find anything recorded before La Bamba. Was La Bamba recorded in March? If so, Valens was 16! 2/Did Carol Kaye or Valens play the guitar solo? She's listed as "acoustic rhythm guitar", & the other guitarist plays a baritone guitar, tuned too low for those solo's notes. I can't hear if there's a third guitar or not, which would be Valens'.
In the original, Carol Kaye played the guitar part.
From where did you get this
This is very interesting. Had ritchie fired bob keen as his manager and got hired on with Desi arnez hed still be alive today and so would the big bopper and buddy hollie
2019
What does Ritchie say at 5:50
wasn't carol kaye involved in this session-or overdubbed later?
She was a guitarist on the song
I wanna see this studio recordin in google maps, can you help me ? I can''t find it ....i am trying !!
Gold Star Studios. No longer there. It was located at 6252 Santa Monica Blvd. in Los Angeles (Hollywood).
@@bmepdoc9675 Gracias desde Brasil , Thank you !! I will see this !!
Well shake it up baby
Twist and shout
Oh wait
Yo no soy Marinero, soy capitan soy capitan 😎
Is that another guitar for bass or one of the first Fender Ps? It's not an upright. Raunchy and cool tones- played with a pic?
Rene Hall is on a Danelectro 6-string bass, which is like a baritone introing the tune. Valens is on regular guitar, Carole Kaye is on rhythm guitar, Buddy Clark is on stand-up bass, and Earl Palmer is on drums.
Really, a stand up bass? Man, that sounds like a p bass.
I am almost certain that that is a p bass. Sorry, I play up right.
This is already established. Rene Hall was using his Danelectro 6-string bass. He was a pioneer in using this instrument which came out in 1956. Later, many session guitar players had one as a common choice. It is why many covers done today of tunes of that era just don't sound right, as they always try to substitute a regular electric bass for the Dan-O.
There is no electric bass on this track. There's an upright bass by Buddy Clark and a baritone Danelectro by Rene. Studios that specialized in Country and Tex-Mex Western employed baritone guitarists to thicken up the sound, since upright bass had a hard time competing with amplified instruments.
The P-Bass eventually overtook both instruments, but didn't catch on until the early sixties due to several factors. The price of a P-Bass was prohibitive, for one, and you could buy five Danelectros for the price of one P-Bass. Amplification was also an issue; Fender was the only company making amps for electric bass, and their price was high and quality was suspect. In comparison, a Danelectro could be played through any guitar amp.
Finally, Danelectro stopped making their Baritone guitars, and the supply eventually dried up. This was at the time that the price of a P-Bass had come down significantly. Many companies were making bass amps as well. Most studio Danelectro musicians migrated over to the P-Bass and the Jazz Bass, but several Country & Western studios still employed Fender Bass VI sidemen up until the late seventies.
Hi Farone100, sorry for the delay in responding. I originally posted as atomicbootsy but saw my posts were listed as *spam*. This is my actual contact info. Take care.
0:04:25 0:07:25 Trying to master this solo. Anyone got it?
Its pretty simple
Really. Send me the tab or something that is EXACTLY like this solo
Not Los Lobos solo
not stereo, what happened?
2018
Is this quality available in the original?
2018?
@atomicbootsy you're dad was THE GOD OF DRUMS---I just read his book I'm really excited to talk to you!!!!
Robert Hunter the reclusive former lyricist of the Grateful Dead once played the role of Ritchie Valens.
The name, The Grateful Dead, is appropriate. They faked their deaths and became grateful to get out of their record contracts. They also made everyone very rich in the process. When word got out to the public that Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens allegedly died in a plane crash in Clear Lake, Iowa, their records literally flew off the shelves, and they became immortalized through the legend crafting process...
These staged performances go on quite a bit, especially when older rock stars become unproductive and want out of their public circus cages, they'll hire a PR firm, kill off their old personas by faking a death, as they regain a sense of normalcy and balance within the relative anonymity of the private sector.
Robert wrote his most famous song called "Ripple," here's a famous line in the song. "Can you hear my voice come through the music?" Yes, Ritchie, I not only heard your voice but also recognized your facial features, your guitars and guitar playing style. Ironically, both Ritchie and the character he's now playing Robert Hunter, were born in 1941, 41 days apart, in southern California... They sure know how to entertain us, don't they?
God you're a fucking idiot.