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- DUDE, WHO UN-MANNED MY BED?
Bedman? released for Strive today! I was very, VERY excited for this character- so much so that I made a comparison video showcasing the character's moves in Xrd and their Strive counterparts. This was just for fun, but if you liked this style of video, let me know and I'll make more!
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Since I put this video together the day that Bed came out, I'm not surprised there were a few mistakes and tidbits of info I left out. I'll update this if I notice anything else!
- First off for Xrd, Bedman's idle animation was basically low-profile, so if he went into it during roundstart - which actually happened a lot - the opponent would typically have to go for a low if they wanted to challenge him. This was kinda niche, but infamous in it's own way. Kinda like how Faust's bald head taunt has a hitbox- not the most useful tech, but it exists.
- I completely forgot about Bedman's 6H in Xrd! 6H hits twice, and 6HH (pressing it one more time) hits a total of four times, with the last hit being the hardest, and plus on block. Every hit is special cancelable as well- all around a really great move!
- I didn't mention Task A' (or Task A 'Prime') in the video since it didn't seem to have a counterpart in Strive. For those unaware, Bedman had a version of Task A that would teleport him to the side of the opponent that the head hits, on hit or block. It had a slower startup from Task A to differentiate the two moves, but Task A' is just like Task A- it can be done on the ground or the air, and Bedman can't do it again until the head hits something or boomerangs all the way back to him.
- Speaking of "Tasks" I found it much less confusing to refer to Strive Bedman's special moves as Task A through C than their original names (also, Call A & B instead of a name like 'Call 0x0$0.20'), so that's why I gave them different names for this video.
- For all of Bed's moves in Strive, 'Error' state is cancelled if he gets hit OR blocks an attack. It also goes away if it isn't used before a wall break (on either Bed or the opponent). Strangely, it seems to stay active during a Homing Dust, and you can even do Call 13C in the air during Dust!
- Task C (or Call 4B9) can be delayed for a WHILE. On hit and fully charged, it sends them to the Moon. Literally, "Your Life Ends in __ Frames"
- Call 13C enhances Task A, B, and C! When I tested the move out while I was grabbing the footage, I didn't notice my projectile or the head-pop being effected by the install, but they definitely are: All three moves will wallbreak if close enough on hit, and gain other buffs like increased damage, range, and frame advantage- Task A's projectile also gains Guard Crush!
- During Call 13C, Bedman has an overall 10% Damage and Defense buff, and his projectiles also stay out after getting hit or blocking.
Also Xrd Bedman most definetly has a 6H, however its very different
@@builderthebob9571 Ah, how could I forget? The ORIGINAL Pain Train move! Right you are- it's added to the list.
I like this video, very well made. 😁
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 Thank you so much!
Call 13C can also act as a roman cancel like thing so it can be used for some funky combos.
Also, his theme song was buffed to do emotional damage
I love his new theme! The lyrics and instrumentation of Strive's tracks do a fantastic job telling a character's story and how complex these characters really are. Daisuke Ishiwatari knows his stuff, and lyrics by Naoki have ALWAYS been bangers- from Birthday Train to Crawl.
No.....
You can't see the radiant light
You can't hear the beautiful chant
You can't feel the tender warmth...
😢😢😢
You know, Bedman? Using electricity on a larger scale than Bedman makes a lot of sense since Delilah isn’t strapped onto him, he doesn’t need to worry about electrocuting her. Also allows for a wider range of movements
Bed in strive be like: *Error: Task failed successfully*
This was probably Strive's best DLC returning character redesign (from a pure cosmetic viewpoint) outside of Testament. Baiken is awesome and Bridget was also pretty cool, but this was a great design that shows progress of the story and looks badass as hell. Don't forget the Theme. Hopefully Season Pass 3 will keep up this trend.
With Asuka looking sick as hell, I'm super stoked for the next season, too!
Bedman vs. Deadman
Bedman? is cool but the unapologetic swagger of bedman will never be topped
Truu
Isn't his soul/conscious still in the bedframe?
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@@BriberX000 yeah but you cant really trash talk the same way when you are stuck in a bed shaped killing machine that cant speak
Even if Hack was bad in XRD I kinda miss him. It was a meme in my playgroup, as our one and only bedman main would create good combos, put us in crazy pressure and then take his role as an anime villian, summoning a fricking SHEEP to end us.
Miss that times
I like the detail that Bedman?'s other arm is just totally broken in Strive.
5H only has 1 hit now cause the other arm is broken
fS and 2D, even though the animation is very similar they only attack with one hand now
236H he can't properly move that arm so he just swings it at the opponent like a chain and it explodes on impact
During his throw animation he uses his good hand to pick up the broken one and electrocutes the enemy with it
He also drags that arm behind him during his walk and run animations, and it dangles below him during the air movement
The feel of playing a malfunctioning, sentient machine is really fun!
I miss the old Bedman, straight from the go Bedman, the very funny Bedman, set on his goals Bedman.😔🥰
Current bedman is literally a different character, its delilah using bed since bedman fucking died
@Joplys nah bro, Bedman is haunting the bed, which is why it's "acting weird."
Never noticed that bedman has them grippers out.
Strive Bed's throw at least gives you a corner combo if you have Error B ready, makes it a good time to try a throw mixup
So Bedman? in Strive can do meterless combos with throw, you need 236H’s error ready and you can combo off of it when doing a throw.
What the *CIRCLE* doing?
His install will buff all of his passive error moves. It isn’t limited to Task B. A and C are both buffed too! Other than that, looks about right.
As someone who’s first GG was Strive. It’s interesting to see this fun character’s before and after. Good work on the video!
Glad you liked it!
Good video! Interesting to see the changes they made. I appreciated the little fun facts, like Eddie's hitbox in Xrd. I also dig Bedman?'s new delay and instant moves for Error. I don't know how controlling he was in Xrd, but that must give him a LOT of freedom to mess around.
Bedman became less about doing setplay to trick the opponent into making mistakes, and more about building insane, unique pressure that I personally think is on-par with Zato now!
This character's only been out of a day and Bed's already a favorite for me in Strive.
LMFAO WHAT DA CIRCLE DOIN
Do not *sleep* on Call 13C in strive, it does way more than buff task b. it buffs any follow up attacks from errors for next 5 seconds by a large margin, giving them special properties, higher damage, instant wall breaks when near the wall and a hard knockdown upon wall break as if it were it's own super.
Call 13C is honestly a better install super than ky's dragon install in strive and is a force to be reckoned with.
Call 13C is probably one of the best Install supers in the series, honestly lol. There's not really a trade-off.
Besides ABA's Goku Monoha and maybe Robo Ky's self destruct super in ACR, Guilty Gear hasn't had the greatest track record with Install supers being worth the meter. They've always looked really sick, though- Sol's Dragon Install in Xrd is still one of my favorite things they've ever done in GG's gameplay!
An actually interesting comparison video
Glad you liked it!
Was looking forward to seeing this video! Just as cool as I hoped (though I'd would have been nice to see some of the faster normals done a few more times lol)
Fair enough lol
In the original cut, I had clips for the attacks on whiff, block, and hit- I wanted to show off the different properties, mainly stuff like the chip damage from moves like Helios. (Honestly, if I wasn't creating this video the day Bed came out, I probably would've included the frame data as well, lol)
However, the extra clips added a ton more runtime to the video, so I scrapped the idea- but maybe if I make another comparison video in the future, I'll use that cut. This video got a lot more attention than I thoght it would, after all!
I do Miss Bedman's gameplay from Xrd, setting up those points to have his special moves go again from specific spots felt really fun, like a pseudo puppet character. He's still fun in strive but he (it?) feels a little less unique now.
I agree!
I even feel like Bedman might be stronger in Strive than Xrd now, but the old moves have a charm to them.
U can also ik confirm from the clock super if you have 50 tension left after the wall splat.
Yep, the wallsplat is brutal!
But IK will only work there if for some UNGODLY reason Helios doesn't kill them when they're already in Hellfire.
Probably more of a 'coup de grace' against high-Guts characters like Potemkin or maybe Leo!
0:53 HUH
lmao that intro is good
Dedman
So true
such a good video!!
Thank you! It was a lot of fun to put everything together!
Btw, lemme know if anyone wants to see more comparison videos- if you do, tell me which characters!
using this as a bedman (the man not the bed) movement collection
2:30
they trully dumbed it down. deja vu is superior to error 6e in every single way. deja vu allowed you to set up traps, gave you more screen control, and overall gave him more of a unique gameplay. in strive all error6e does is keep the combo extender part, while discarding everything else that made deja vu unique. at least they fixed the overdrives. sadge moment
edit: another thing they made worse, but somehow they bedmans dash in strive even more clunky than it already was. it just feels so slow and has too long startup
hmm which of strive character look horrific... Faust or Bedman....... to me is faust cause of covid he probably didn't get enough of sleep to find cure for covid XD...and bedman....i don't know...
It would be good if it was rev3
Not the onlygroundbased footsies the game ehrr
Ok sorry i'm still salty about strive
lol
I'd be lying if I said that I prefer most of Strive's characters to their counterparts in Xrd or earlier, but now that ACR and Xrd have rollback, I can just hop on there if I'm looking for the chaotic, arcadey, game that is Xrd. Danger Time, Blitz, Burst Supers, IKs- sometimes I just have an itch that Strive can't scratch!
Bedman? in Strive, is a she, that is if you are reffering to the person who is on screen with the bed. So you got that wrong, in your vid you said he, so yeah, thats a mistake.
Yeah but you still play as the bed, the question mark is there because we don't know if the man's soul is inside the bed or if it's just a robot
Horiama is right, that was my logic!
In Strive you're playing as Bed- as in, the bedframe. Some people believe that the frame has Bedman's consciousness, others believe it's just running code as a contingency for Bedman's death like it says in his bio. So an argument can be made whether you're actually playing as the 'Bed', or the 'Man'. Where can one draw the line?
Either way, you're not actually playing as Delilah!
The circus is in town!
they turned him into a femboy
nah he's trans mtf
male to furniture
xrd version better
old bedman is so much better than the new one. bedman? feels like getting my feet chopped off during a marathon
And delilah, good god. I had to install a mod to not have to see her when playing, she's ruining my experience with the character. I literally cant see anything with her. (at least sheep is gone, theme is great too)
They are not the same character whatsoever.
Ones interesting and one's not. Thanks.
Which is which
@@mystrenula3911 XRD is interesting, STRIVE isn't.
@@Siberianhusky89 the reversal of deja vu mechanics is pretty interesting in and of itself although arguably worse
@@mystrenula3911 Well, the only reason Bedman is bad is due to deliberately bad decision making from Arc System Works. Hit hitboxes are bad, he recovers far too slow from moves considering how fast the rest of the cast is, Arc System Works wasn't much better during Xrd. They were complete pieces of crap during the game's development.
As far as STRIVE, it's a different game than the rest of the series. Which is not why I find it bad per se, more so that the game is just a bland design, the developers said they were "starting somewhere and going to see where it leads" but it's been the same game since it's release, every patch has been mediocre and the game retains elements that "made Guilty Gear ridiculous" while getting rid of every complimenting factor as to WHY the game was the way it was in the first place and replacing it with absolutely nothing.
@@Siberianhusky89 my knowledge on Guilty Gear extends exclusively to Strive and Fither's Bedman content so I'm not qualified to comment on most of what you said, but I think that the differences and similarities between Xrd and Strive Bedman especially with deja vu vs errors make for an interesting character