I have a plastic pbone. It's a fantastic instrument to take with me when I travel internationally. Its durable, lightweight, low cost, sounds decent, and has no metal to trigger the TSA or border police. There's certainly a place for a well made plastic instrument in any musician's collection. Its simply a matter of having the right tool for the job.
I own one and love it. The fact that I can leave it around the house and just pick it up and play it whenever the mood takes me. My Calicchio stays in its case, coming out only for a gig or performance.
After a 49 year break, I started laying trumpet again about 14 months ago. I am now playing my second horn this go around in two community bands. Good, veteran layers in both groups who are still not sure what o think of plastic horns, have told me that mine sounds very good. After quite a bit of research, I bought a Tromba.
I would suggest that you might consider a plastic horn if you have a nicer one that you don't want to ruin in marching band. Used with a metal mouthpiece, of course.
I'm sure he would if the didn't cost $1000 dollars. Any tiger instrument bigger than a trombone is gonna be a little pricey for somone who doesn't have use for one.
I love my Pbone. I can leave it around the house with my four year old who keeps knocking on the floor. At one point a seam was split after a bad fall and I carefully fixed it with super glue. It's good as new! It's not as good as a professional trombone, but I have a starter Bach and it's about as good as that. Every school, middle and high school, should use these. I do make sure to use a metal mouthpiece, though. That makes a difference.
They would simply be putting the cheap horn on their face. I don’t know whether your comment was based on sarcasm or a lack of knowledge, but based on the fact that you used emojis I’m going to guess that it’s a lack of knowledge. Chlamydia and herpes can be transferred by contact of mouth.
Hunter Alexander it’s based on the fact that I spent two weeks in India. I think very highly of the people there. I look with great sadness at what the British Empire has done to them. I do not tolerate disparaging remarks cast towards those that I love.
Thanks Trent, I've seen heaps of Brass and Woodwind coming from India for ridiculous prices ($400 for a New Sousaphone, $300 Eupho). I'm glad more people are aware of this, it really is a waste of money.
I’m playing my new Bb/F trombone for pep band, because it is lighter to hold for a long time and the air seems to flow better and sounds the same or better as my school loaned jazz band. I play Euphonium for Symphonic though and it is metal.
I bought a Chopra trumpet (from India) for 109 USD with free shipping. I'm in a mid term awful financial situation, otherwise I would buy a Yamaha for about 550 USD. The one I got couldn't be played out of the box, all valves were sticky, I washed out then oiled it, now it works, tuning slides aren't anything smooth, but there's no leaks. The mouthpiece isn't good, maybe it's just wrong size for me. I found hard to play the instrument, but I played tenor horn 15 years ago for three years, because at age 9 I couldn't make out any sound of the trumpet. For its price it's acceptable, but for serious purposes definetly it's better to buy one for 400+, but I would never buy anything for over 3000$ what I can lift with one hand.
I totally agree with not getting your child a cheap trumpet from india. I started on a $40 cheap trumpet and it was a horrible experience. I now use a ytr2330...
Given, as has been commented, that you can /should always give anything a darn good wash before you put your lips to it, it might have been more useful to point out simply that the Indian made brass instruments currently trying to flood the bottom end of the market are absolutely as awful as the fractured English in their florid advertising blurb. They are almost impossible to play in tune - particularly for a beginner -, their mechanical parts are barely functional even with lots of TLC, and they are, mostly, made of metal thinner than a beer can, and consequently have zero useful life expectancy.
I'd like to hear your opinions about buying used and the precautions that should be taken before playing (particularly in terms of cleaning/disinfecting). Should that be done DIY or taken to an instrument shop to handle? And thank you for all of the info you provide on your channel!
Thanks, ive been looking to upgrade to an f-attachment trombone, but the price is a little heavy. Ive been looking online and found plastic instruments, i was truly amazed. And i was wondering if it sounded the same, was durable etc.
If you want a good instrument buy a higher price one or one from jean paul. But if you have a metal one with the same price as a plastic one. I'd get the plastic one because it will probably be more enjoyable to play for not professional purposes. A metal one of the same price will be garbage.
In particular, while the small tubes of the plastic trumpet look more or less invincible, the wide sheets of gently curved euphonium plastic sound like they'd be a little easier to crack.
Trent!! Please consider reviewing the Cool winds CTU-200 Plastic 4 valve BBb tuba and their CTB plastic Trombone with F trigger. Also look into the tiger branded 4 valve tuba, plastic by the way
"Cooler"? Absolutely not. Cheap guitars and ukeleles look similar to quality ones, but the plastic trumpet looks like a toy. The advantage of plastic is price, as you mentioned, so it's not a huge investment (read: not a waste of money) for a beginner who gives up. What you didn't say is that plastic is also lighter, which is good if the recipient is a kid.
I once bought a tenor horn through eBay from India. Guess what : After C-C#-D-D#-E-F-F#-G-G#-A-A#-B it was impossible to blow the C coming after that. I emphasize : IMPOSSIBLE ! So Trent is right on India. No brass music instruments from India for me. This was several years ago, but nevertheless that horn is now used.... for dry flowers as a vase.
I know I am not Trent but I would make sure if you want to play trombone make sure your arm is long enough. I would rent one (trumpet/trombone) before you go and buy one but don’t like it.
In my opinion so it might be wrong but I think a plastic trumpet would be good if you're not planning on doing like full bag and it's just kind of a hobby or for fun thing then yeah I think it'd be good for you to try plastic point you wouldn't spend your the money but if it's for like actual concert marching or any kind of band then I would go for a regular brass or metal trumpet
Hi Trent, a question for you! When you showed your brass trumpet in this vid it appeared to have modified valve caps. Do the heavy (and expensive) valve caps really make a difference to the sound of the instrument, or is it just a bit of bling to spruce up and otherwise standard looking horn? Thanks again for the excellent content.
I am looking to get myself a 4 valve euphonium. My question is what is a brand that won't break the bank but will be well made enough to last awhile?. Also, is it better to have 4th valve with the other three or by the left hand? Any answers are appreciated
The Real M&M there are plastic euphs for around $400-500 and student models start at around $700 for brass. As for the 4th valve, placement doesnt matter. If you get a 4 valve with the 4th valve next to the other 3, you can bring your left hand around the front and use your left index finger instead of your right pinky. What matters is if you want a non-compensating or compensating instrument. Because you're just starting (I assume), I would go for a non-compensating. Hope this helps.
I'd go with a plastic instrument, plus metal mouthpiece. I can't imagine kids learning proper embouchure on a plastic mouthpiece. Granted, I might be partial, since I learned on brass gear.
According to a review in (if memory serves) 4barsrest the mouthpiece that comes with the P-bone is actually very good for a comes-with mouthpiece. I'll grant you, that it's a low bar to clear.
Plastic is good for players who have day jobs and want to play after work or on business trips. Weight and ease or handling. Because they have quirks that can make them difficult to play, they can discourage beginners. Higher the quality the more consistent, the better,
for the love of brass DON'T buy an Indian brass instrument. Despite the possible infections you can get, they sound like shit, play like shit, and in general are shit.
I wish you were wrong about the Indian instruments. I have a Besson cornet that was made in India, under close supervision from Besson. This model has been described as the best ever made in India, and the best I can say is that there is nothing really, egregiously wrong with it. (And it was cheap).
A new section of the band has been created, the Plastic Wind section. I agree, it is not the Indians, it is their instruments and the trouble they cause to the community. The dreaded pox is only the start of your problems. Charles Manson was given an Indian trumpet as part of his punishment and it finished him off. Now he only has 8 more life's to serve.
no no no. If you wanna play a trumpet, get a beginner trumpet. A plastic trumpet may sound like a good choice, but it misses one crucial detail: TONE! If you want to get better at trumpet, you should stick with the ones made of actual brass! Plus, if you get a plastic trumpet, you can be made fun of. So you should get a beginner's trumpet, and if you don't like it, then you can just return it. If you like playing and you wanna improve, then you should start moving up to an intermediate trumpet and eventually an advanced trumpet. Overall, plastic trumpets are not the route to go.
The truth is that beginner/intermediate is a really gray, arbitrary line. Many beginner instruments are also intermediate instruments. It is my opinion that you should "skip" beginning, and just go to the ones marked "intermediate".
Don't buy the Tromba instruments, get the P-instruments instead. The P-Trombone seems to review considerably better, and if I'm correct, they were doing it first.
What material properties (density, elasticity, hardness, etc) are the most important for the quality of an instrument's sound? Are there brass alloys used especially for musical instruments?
How all those properties work is a bit complicated and players have different opinions about it, but about the other question, yes. Nickel silver (high nickel brass) and rose brass (or whatever it's being called this year) are a couple of brass alloys that you'll see used in instruments and almost nowhere else. Rose brass is popular because it looks cool and doesn't dent as easily. I don't see it as much anymore, but you can still get French Horns that are solid nickel silver. Supposedly, nickel silver sounds better, but I think it's just a cheap way to get a "silver" color without plating. The most annoying part about nickel silver is how bad it looks when the lacquer wears off. It tarnishes really fast and easy and doesn't polish up that well.
I was/am a returning player and I brought Mendini MTT-30CN Nickel Plated Intermediate Double-Braced Bb Trumpet. This not the cheaper $100.00 P.O.S. that will rust and has suspect craftsmanship. When I took the horn into get the springs changed (bad Idea on my part it was my old weak fingers not the trumpets fault) the repair guy was amazed at how well it played. for the same or less prices of a plastic horn $149.00. I got a plastic flugelhorn as a gift. Now before anyone buys a flugelhorn one should read or asks someone who is experienced in playing one in what you are getting into. If you read all the negative Amazon reviews and know a flugelhorn is like you go "yeah that's how all flugelhorns are". They have sketch intonation and take more effort to play in tune. It's not a trumpet. Also before you bad mouth a new horn valves performance, wash the horn there is buffing compound and other manufacturing gunk left in the horn that gum up the valves. Swab the valve cases out before putting in/on new oil for the first few weeks to a month brass and plastic. After that enjoy a good horn for value.
"Tested before it reaches the factory"
That's a tall order, Trent.
lbrown21494 lol I didn't even notice that at first
I have a plastic pbone. It's a fantastic instrument to take with me when I travel internationally. Its durable, lightweight, low cost, sounds decent, and has no metal to trigger the TSA or border police.
There's certainly a place for a well made plastic instrument in any musician's collection. Its simply a matter of having the right tool for the job.
Welp.....time to show my family this video since they bought me a cheap Indian trumpet
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Oh god, my friend bought one from a garage sale and it's the worst instrument I've ever played
I own one and love it.
The fact that I can leave it around the house and just pick it up and play it whenever the mood takes me.
My Calicchio stays in its case, coming out only for a gig or performance.
After a 49 year break, I started laying trumpet again about 14 months ago. I am now playing my second horn this go around in two community bands. Good, veteran layers in both groups who are still not sure what o think of plastic horns, have told me that mine sounds very good. After quite a bit of research, I bought a Tromba.
I would suggest that you might consider a plastic horn if you have a nicer one that you don't want to ruin in marching band. Used with a metal mouthpiece, of course.
To get great instruments cheap, if you can find a friend to locate you a quality used instrument, great deals can be found, as well as great traps
you should do a tiger tuba review. If you haven’t already.
IWasBoredProductions Yeah, Tiger plastic instruments are much better than the P stuff
I'm sure he would if the didn't cost $1000 dollars. Any tiger instrument bigger than a trombone is gonna be a little pricey for somone who doesn't have use for one.
I believe the Tiger plastic instruments sound very nice, especially the trombone, better than most cheap brass relatives infact. You should try them.
4:11 That editing is flawless.
I love my Pbone. I can leave it around the house with my four year old who keeps knocking on the floor. At one point a seam was split after a bad fall and I carefully fixed it with super glue. It's good as new!
It's not as good as a professional trombone, but I have a starter Bach and it's about as good as that. Every school, middle and high school, should use these. I do make sure to use a metal mouthpiece, though. That makes a difference.
Care to do a review on that antique-looking pocket trumpet mounted upon the Wall of Many Things?
Will do one day... When I get it working.
If you do decide to get/gift someone a plastic instrument, I suggest still getting an appropriate metal mouthpiece for it.
What are the kids gonna do with those trumpets to get chlamydia 😳
Andy Rodriguez No, it’s what did Trent do with what?
Damnit Andy
Andy Rodriguez duh. So then they can swap parts with their friends and have rainbow trumpets!
They would simply be putting the cheap horn on their face. I don’t know whether your comment was based on sarcasm or a lack of knowledge, but based on the fact that you used emojis I’m going to guess that it’s a lack of knowledge. Chlamydia and herpes can be transferred by contact of mouth.
Hunter Alexander it’s based on the fact that I spent two weeks in India. I think very highly of the people there. I look with great sadness at what the British Empire has done to them. I do not tolerate disparaging remarks cast towards those that I love.
Thanks Trent, I've seen heaps of Brass and Woodwind coming from India for ridiculous prices ($400 for a New Sousaphone, $300 Eupho). I'm glad more people are aware of this, it really is a waste of money.
I’m playing my new Bb/F trombone for pep band, because it is lighter to hold for a long time and the air seems to flow better and sounds the same or better as my school loaned jazz band. I play Euphonium for Symphonic though and it is metal.
Dont buy a plastic trombone. They dont hold up
I bought a Chopra trumpet (from India) for 109 USD with free shipping. I'm in a mid term awful financial situation, otherwise I would buy a Yamaha for about 550 USD. The one I got couldn't be played out of the box, all valves were sticky, I washed out then oiled it, now it works, tuning slides aren't anything smooth, but there's no leaks. The mouthpiece isn't good, maybe it's just wrong size for me. I found hard to play the instrument, but I played tenor horn 15 years ago for three years, because at age 9 I couldn't make out any sound of the trumpet. For its price it's acceptable, but for serious purposes definetly it's better to buy one for 400+, but I would never buy anything for over 3000$ what I can lift with one hand.
Barnabás Rózsa you can buy a really nice used Conn, Bach, Jupiter, etc. for less than $200
I’m getting a plastic trumpet cause I play brass but I don’t have enough money for my own so I’m getting a plastic one as well as renting a horn
Blala Hermione Plastic instruments are great beginner-intermediate practice instrument, especially if your school or band has brass trumpets to loan.
Blala Hermione NOOOOOOOO. 🤣
Eyy my fellow horn player
with so many stencil brands, it is sometimes difficult to find the country of origin for many brands. I wish there was a cross reference
I totally agree with not getting your child a cheap trumpet from india. I started on a $40 cheap trumpet and it was a horrible experience. I now use a ytr2330...
Given, as has been commented, that you can /should always give anything a darn good wash before you put your lips to it, it might have been more useful to point out simply that the Indian made brass instruments currently trying to flood the bottom end of the market are absolutely as awful as the fractured English in their florid advertising blurb.
They are almost impossible to play in tune - particularly for a beginner -, their mechanical parts are barely functional even with lots of TLC, and they are, mostly, made of metal thinner than a beer can, and consequently have zero useful life expectancy.
I'd like to hear your opinions about buying used and the precautions that should be taken before playing (particularly in terms of cleaning/disinfecting). Should that be done DIY or taken to an instrument shop to handle?
And thank you for all of the info you provide on your channel!
Thanks, ive been looking to upgrade to an f-attachment trombone, but the price is a little heavy. Ive been looking online and found plastic instruments, i was truly amazed. And i was wondering if it sounded the same, was durable etc.
F attachment plastic trombones aren't durable
You should do a video of all of your instruments.
He said he would if everyone could agree on what piece to play with all of them.
OK I put my bid the Carnival of Venice
I️ agree, carnival of Venice is a good song to do.
If you want a good instrument buy a higher price one or one from jean paul. But if you have a metal one with the same price as a plastic one. I'd get the plastic one because it will probably be more enjoyable to play for not professional purposes. A metal one of the same price will be garbage.
Can you tell me what the tune is in the intro?
Does your advice change at all for larger instruments like a plastic euphonium?
Same question here. Buy a decent 4-valve (4th used by pinky) euphonium for $600 or a plastic compensating for the same price?
In particular, while the small tubes of the plastic trumpet look more or less invincible, the wide sheets of gently curved euphonium plastic sound like they'd be a little easier to crack.
@@andrewweirny The tuba bells break
"Saying first won't make your mum love you more"
Should’ve been a 10 second video. *intro plays “no”
Trent!! Please consider reviewing the Cool winds CTU-200 Plastic 4 valve BBb tuba and their CTB plastic Trombone with F trigger. Also look into the tiger branded 4 valve tuba, plastic by the way
I'd love to, but unfortunately don't have the money to spend on them right now.
You forgot the weight aspect. The plastic trumpet are lighter and more easy for a child to hold because I that.
"Cooler"? Absolutely not. Cheap guitars and ukeleles look similar to quality ones, but the plastic trumpet looks like a toy. The advantage of plastic is price, as you mentioned, so it's not a huge investment (read: not a waste of money) for a beginner who gives up. What you didn't say is that plastic is also lighter, which is good if the recipient is a kid.
I once bought a tenor horn through eBay from India. Guess what : After C-C#-D-D#-E-F-F#-G-G#-A-A#-B it was impossible to blow the C coming after that. I emphasize : IMPOSSIBLE ! So Trent is right on India. No brass music instruments from India for me. This was several years ago, but nevertheless that horn is now used.... for dry flowers as a vase.
The dislikes are from instrument makers in India
Hey Trent, as a flute player wanting to learn how to play a trumpet and trombone, what approach should I take to learning how to play properly?
I know I am not Trent but I would make sure if you want to play trombone make sure your arm is long enough. I would rent one (trumpet/trombone) before you go and buy one but don’t like it.
Everyone Trent is the best TH-camr he deserves 10 mil subscribers
In my opinion so it might be wrong but I think a plastic trumpet would be good if you're not planning on doing like full bag and it's just kind of a hobby or for fun thing then yeah I think it'd be good for you to try plastic point you wouldn't spend your the money but if it's for like actual concert marching or any kind of band then I would go for a regular brass or metal trumpet
Yo Trent! Are you gonna make a video about that pocket Trumpet on the wall? Would definitely enjoy it.
OOOH a pocket trumpet on the background
SUP
Hi Trent, a question for you! When you showed your brass trumpet in this vid it appeared to have modified valve caps. Do the heavy (and expensive) valve caps really make a difference to the sound of the instrument, or is it just a bit of bling to spruce up and otherwise standard looking horn? Thanks again for the excellent content.
Hi Martyn, it does focus the sound, but I think for most players it's largely aesthetic; it's subtle.
What would be a good plastic trombone? I want to learn to play at student level but some of the brass one's are too expensive.
Jiggs pBone. They play wonderfully and are around the $170 USD range last time I checked Amazon
Nick I pBone's are only $100 and are great
Thanks
I think that the Tiger ones are better, google them
Nikola Tesla Don't they only have those in f-attatchment form? If so he should learn straight first.
I am looking to get myself a 4 valve euphonium. My question is what is a brand that won't break the bank but will be well made enough to last awhile?. Also, is it better to have 4th valve with the other three or by the left hand?
Any answers are appreciated
The Real M&M there are plastic euphs for around $400-500 and student models start at around $700 for brass. As for the 4th valve, placement doesnt matter. If you get a 4 valve with the 4th valve next to the other 3, you can bring your left hand around the front and use your left index finger instead of your right pinky. What matters is if you want a non-compensating or compensating instrument. Because you're just starting (I assume), I would go for a non-compensating. Hope this helps.
When you say "don't buy an instrument from India," do you mean the brand SAIMusical?
Taylor Norris for the most part.
I'd go with a plastic instrument, plus metal mouthpiece. I can't imagine kids learning proper embouchure on a plastic mouthpiece. Granted, I might be partial, since I learned on brass gear.
According to a review in (if memory serves) 4barsrest the mouthpiece that comes with the P-bone is actually very good for a comes-with mouthpiece. I'll grant you, that it's a low bar to clear.
Plastic is good for players who have day jobs and want to play after work or on business trips. Weight and ease or handling. Because they have quirks that can make them difficult to play, they can discourage beginners. Higher the quality the more consistent, the better,
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I've been watching your old videos. What auction site do you use for your instruments?
How about a review on the PTrumpet?
If i were to buy an indian instrument would it matter if you cleaned it before use
Nestor Pelayo thanks
for the love of brass DON'T buy an Indian brass instrument. Despite the possible infections you can get, they sound like shit, play like shit, and in general are shit.
If money is your main concern, go for that $88 trumpet that Trent reviewed
I know you may not see this but can I buy an Indian euphonium and deep clean it and will it be safe then?
Have you roadtested a plastic tuba
Little late I already bought the Playlite trombone
An Olds Ambassador trombone can be had for Round $150 second hand. It will be so much better than a plastic trombone with that ridiculous slide.
Where did the pocket trumpet come from. The one on the wall.
When did you get the heavy caps? Where would you recommend getting them for cheaper?
How easy is it to repair a plastic instrument?
I play trumpet but want to try trombone... Should i buy a plastic trombone or a cheap one?
Whattt??!! "And a bit of domestic violence"?? 😂😂😂
I'm a begginer band member, would you reccomond me buying a plastic tuba, since I've dropped the brass one on my face already?
What’s the cheapest plastic trumpet
I wish you were wrong about the Indian instruments. I have a Besson cornet that was made in India, under close supervision from Besson. This model has been described as the best ever made in India, and the best I can say is that there is nothing really, egregiously wrong with it. (And it was cheap).
Bob1Mack so what is the incubation time for leprosy??
I wouldn't know, and I think I can thank the over-worked QC guys from Besson for that.
jack sprat 😂😂
Yeah, I was careful when I said cheap instruments from India. I'm aware that they made some Bessons for a time, and those certainly weren't cheap.
the fuck was with that opening sentence XD
I just want one to play around with
Good Video
Hello
'Sup
I just want a trumpet for fun, i play the french horn regularly
There's nothing fun about a trumpet.
ok but i am a tuba and i dont wna shell out 15000 for a saint pete or 9000 for regular 3 valve so I dont know what to do do i get a plastic or what
A new section of the band has been created, the Plastic Wind section. I agree, it is not the Indians, it is their instruments and the trouble they cause to the community. The dreaded pox is only the start of your problems. Charles Manson was given an Indian trumpet as part of his punishment and it finished him off. Now he only has 8 more life's to serve.
A friend of mine bought me a brass trumpet second hand with "Tokan No. 12" engraved on it for christmas, does anyone know anything about it?
Review a plastic tuba if u can
Would you get those diseases still if it was made in China but shipped from India?
no no no. If you wanna play a trumpet, get a beginner trumpet. A plastic trumpet may sound like a good choice, but it misses one crucial detail: TONE! If you want to get better at trumpet, you should stick with the ones made of actual brass! Plus, if you get a plastic trumpet, you can be made fun of. So you should get a beginner's trumpet, and if you don't like it, then you can just return it. If you like playing and you wanna improve, then you should start moving up to an intermediate trumpet and eventually an advanced trumpet. Overall, plastic trumpets are not the route to go.
What about if you are playing for a (non-professional) jazz bands?
oh dam. for jazz you need the best of sound. defenetly a brass instrument.
If a trumpet is plastic is it still concidered a brass instrument 🤔🤔
bru i need some sources on those diseases
How do you know when you’ve moved from beginner to intermediate?
The truth is that beginner/intermediate is a really gray, arbitrary line. Many beginner instruments are also intermediate instruments.
It is my opinion that you should "skip" beginning, and just go to the ones marked "intermediate".
When your lungs are big enough and you can stay open while you play
Señor Ananas go ask a professional and they'll see if you are ready, they usually are right
Thanks everyone!
Did you get a new camera?
Gosh how do you really feel about plastic horns?
If you want to waste money and get bullied then yes you should buy a plastic instrument.
That was what I was thinking
Do they make a plastic sousaphone? I play the baritone and I want something else to mess around with in my free time.
Blockhead CoC try a garden hose.
If you're looking to mess around with a low instrument, I recommend tuba *way* above sousaphone.
man how many horns u got?
I have a brass trumpet but I don't want to carry it on the bus IM LAZZZZZZZYYYYYY
I have a trumpet from India...
"mini thousands of dollars"
Mitioritos about few $100
God this guy is horn-y
Jokes aside good stuff here!!
These vowels
Should I get one, I’m just trying to learn trumpet, I play trombone.
Don't buy the Tromba instruments, get the P-instruments instead. The P-Trombone seems to review considerably better, and if I'm correct, they were doing it first.
What about Mellophone
Noah the gamemr 55 probably but don't get a plastic French horn
I might buy a plastic instrument just to try that instrument out before I get a Metal one
You bougth an Indian instrument?
Check out my video on the world's cheapest trumpet.
I know firsthand that they suck
Yeah... He also bought a mini sousaphone from India. That was one of the worst things I have every heard in my life!!!
could you perhaps make a side by side comparisson of the sound on a brass trombone and on a plastic trombone?
Mitioritos He already did. Check his channel
oh ok, thanks, i searched once and i didnt find it, but ill get more indepth now.
hey are German made instruments good quality???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I throw my brass trumpet at my sis sometimes
the east american talk show ouch!!! Poor trumpet 😔
What material properties (density, elasticity, hardness, etc) are the most important for the quality of an instrument's sound? Are there brass alloys used especially for musical instruments?
How all those properties work is a bit complicated and players have different opinions about it, but about the other question, yes. Nickel silver (high nickel brass) and rose brass (or whatever it's being called this year) are a couple of brass alloys that you'll see used in instruments and almost nowhere else. Rose brass is popular because it looks cool and doesn't dent as easily. I don't see it as much anymore, but you can still get French Horns that are solid nickel silver. Supposedly, nickel silver sounds better, but I think it's just a cheap way to get a "silver" color without plating. The most annoying part about nickel silver is how bad it looks when the lacquer wears off. It tarnishes really fast and easy and doesn't polish up that well.
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I was/am a returning player and I brought Mendini MTT-30CN Nickel Plated Intermediate Double-Braced Bb Trumpet. This not the cheaper $100.00 P.O.S. that will rust and has suspect craftsmanship. When I took the horn into get the springs changed (bad Idea on my part it was my old weak fingers not the trumpets fault) the repair guy was amazed at how well it played. for the same or less prices of a plastic horn $149.00.
I got a plastic flugelhorn as a gift. Now before anyone buys a flugelhorn one should read or asks someone who is experienced in playing one in what you are getting into. If you read all the negative Amazon reviews and know a flugelhorn is like you go "yeah that's how all flugelhorns are". They have sketch intonation and take more effort to play in tune. It's not a trumpet.
Also before you bad mouth a new horn valves performance, wash the horn there is buffing compound and other manufacturing gunk left in the horn that gum up the valves. Swab the valve cases out before putting in/on new oil for the first few weeks to a month brass and plastic. After that enjoy a good horn for value.
So plastic instruments are perfect for Scandinavian student orchestras lol
plastic sounds like garbage but they improved my tone somehow and i cant knock them for that. they are like weighted belts of the brass family.