Four Basic Proof Techniques Used in Mathematics

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    Part 1: • Introduction to Fundam...
    Extra Proof by Contradiction with some death intrigue (huh?!) • Murdered Over a Math P...
    New to proving mathematical statements and theorem? I this video I prove the statement 'the sum of two consecutive numbers is odd' using direct proof, proof by contradiction, proof by induction and proof by contrapositive.

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  • @tanishqsharma7886
    @tanishqsharma7886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    2:37 Direct Proof
    5:45 Proof by Contradiction
    10:30 Proof by Induction
    17:30 Proof by Contrapositive

    • @dannytran1587
      @dannytran1587 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great video explaining the proofs, horrible choice of example as it doesn’t cover anything remotely important.

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    @Odinuts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +142

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    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      happy to help my fellow peeps out there

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  • @ibrahimalotaibi2399
    @ibrahimalotaibi2399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dear Patrick , Hopefully, you have been faring well. I just wanted to thank you for the effort that you have been devoting to clarify things through your consecutive episodes. I'm a PhD student at EE department and still get back to your videos to learn. It is been almost 7 years or so. Thank you again. Ibrahim from KSA

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    @p2p2p2p2p2p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    every time school makes me feeling like dying, I come and watch your videos and my will to live is restored. bless you man

  • @jazzm5557
    @jazzm5557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Damn you read my mind, I got a discrete math test with this on Friday!!!!

  • @marissahosein1273
    @marissahosein1273 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg I really needed this video, perfect timing, this video helped me sooo much, thank you sir 🙏🏾

  • @tommychao8287
    @tommychao8287 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh man I had three people come up to me for help with proofs, glad this got uploaded!

  • @jjessicaiscool
    @jjessicaiscool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I literally learned this today. Thank you!!

  • @moussaalhamouti7025
    @moussaalhamouti7025 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your videos. Great job!!

  • @johnadams7843
    @johnadams7843 6 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Hello Mr. Patrick Sir, how would you like your name spelled on my college degree ?

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    @Aefax 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @mommonyratana4685
    @mommonyratana4685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! I had a test coming up this Friday and I hope you will put out more examples.

  • @volcomstone54
    @volcomstone54 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    1 minute and 20 seconds in already you have shown more than the book and the professor teaching our course. It was never explained that there were definitions for proofs.

    • @hyperlazer
      @hyperlazer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Calculus99 Who are you to tell him that? Are you his teacher? I personally wasn't told of definitions in our course too.

    • @hyperlazer
      @hyperlazer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Calculus99 You spew nonsense.

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      @shanineedwards6894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @Calculus99
      @Calculus99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @michaellobo6476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @TurskoVideos
    @TurskoVideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I am so surprised you dont have more views. Discrete has been killing me and this really connects some of the dots. Thank you.

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    @Panditatt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You explain better than my math prof. Thanks for making this video

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    @avatar098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm about to start grad school for Computer Science and have decided to brush up on my fundamentals. This video is super helpful!

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    @troychavez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    @guichuantang9041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and thanks for the kind words :) i still make videos for the same reason as when i started; no reason to change them! i guess i could make the channel more personality driven but i don't want that

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      @ButerWarrior44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @angelstarfire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @joketsu100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a good idea. Thanks

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    @raivatshah7847 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video! Thanks so much :)

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    @Saro439 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much ❤ . Buddy. It is just mind blowing🤯

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    @dillpickle6890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are welcome, dill pickle

  • @ismaelsiwi9953
    @ismaelsiwi9953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid, it was informative indeed.
    Appreciate it.

  • @jocelynflores784
    @jocelynflores784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you saved my life!!! thank you sir

  • @geniusturner341
    @geniusturner341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job!

  • @oleglevchenko5772
    @oleglevchenko5772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice. Thanks a lot.!

  • @tesfish3434
    @tesfish3434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great lecture note

  • @ImTheMrFoxman
    @ImTheMrFoxman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was taking MAT243 at Arizona State and.. man the proofs kicked my butt. I dropped the class. I'll be retaking the class in the spring of 2020 and definitely will be recalling these videos on proofs.

  • @ratchetheros
    @ratchetheros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always felt some kind of excitement coming from someone who was about to proof something. Prove me wrong

    • @adeeb1787
      @adeeb1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assume that a person is excited.
      But suddenly the ink of his/her pen dies.
      Therefore, the person can't be exited.
      It contradicts.......

  • @flayv999
    @flayv999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thanks!

  • @thelasttunebender5088
    @thelasttunebender5088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You So Much! Was totally lost before I saw this video!

  • @techwithtrish9760
    @techwithtrish9760 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks so much. this is very elaborate

  • @pjgcommunity3557
    @pjgcommunity3557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Could you also count “proof by exhaustion” as a proof?

    • @theseafaringsaxophone440
      @theseafaringsaxophone440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I prefer "proof by confusion"

    • @wachowski9525
      @wachowski9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you obviously know the answer if you're asking that question

    • @pjgcommunity3557
      @pjgcommunity3557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wachowski9525 yeah I don’t remember why I asked this question. Weirdly I do remember asking this question and watching this video

    • @achyuththouta6957
      @achyuththouta6957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theseafaringsaxophone440 I prefer proof by induction

    • @achyuththouta6957
      @achyuththouta6957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@pjgcommunity3557 Proof by induction is more elegant and the most reliable proof method I've seen

  • @trendytrenessh462
    @trendytrenessh462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video thanks a lot :)

  • @terreqrue
    @terreqrue ปีที่แล้ว

    Had my first class of aylasis for enginers but i was late,this helped a lot thanks man

  • @briannahenry6038
    @briannahenry6038 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you !!!

  • @BeastGanon
    @BeastGanon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just in time for linear algebra proofs!

  • @user-uc9gi2xf8r
    @user-uc9gi2xf8r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    had to look it up in english since spanish wasn't cutting it, thank you so much

  • @Applecitylightkiwi
    @Applecitylightkiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i never learned to really proof anything with defining things because i learned how to do calculus only and understand, this is so useful. smh how did i pass with an A and now knowing this tysm man

  • @nathaleezaragoza4266
    @nathaleezaragoza4266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are amazing, love from PH!!!

  • @soilammirza9198
    @soilammirza9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir your video very helpful thank

  • @fadlalmolasuliman7897
    @fadlalmolasuliman7897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very good
    thanks so much

  • @IllumTheMessage
    @IllumTheMessage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks

  • @emilycarroll2250
    @emilycarroll2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! I just want to point out that the proof by induction really only holds for the positive integers, since the base case is n=1, and you proved p(n)-> p(n+1) but you didn't prove p(n+1)->p(n). I believe a second half of the proof is needed to cover integers less than 1.

  • @terrilajoie676
    @terrilajoie676 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just wanted to say thank you for your videos. I was in an Intermediate Collage Algebra course, but discovered through doing the homework and using your videos to help with that homework, that this was the wrong class for me to be in. It moved so fast and its assumed we already know things like how to find the slope/y intercept etc....so no only did I finally have a real question for once, I was also able to save myself several more very long months of being lost and stressed out. Usually, I would have just tried to stick it out, instead, met with my counselor and discovered that I don’t even need that class for my major since my transfer school has changed!! So long story short, thanks man!! Your videos are the best and easiest to follow along with and I will most certainly be referring to you more next semester when I take the correct Algebra course!

  • @SuperShana97
    @SuperShana97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg, I didn't know you have a video about proofs. Oh my, I'm still struggling with that class 😢😢. But your other courses helped me to pass my class :).

    • @loofus9133
      @loofus9133 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      8th grade?

    • @SuperShana97
      @SuperShana97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loofus9133 Well, it depends on the countries and levels but the course I took is college level.

  • @moharhusayn3184
    @moharhusayn3184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    patrick you are an amazing tutor..but what about this definition:
    an integer a is a perfect square if there is an integer b such that a=b^2..thank you

  • @Jordan-vs6mj
    @Jordan-vs6mj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PatrickJMT the OG youtube tutor!

  • @xxmirclexx
    @xxmirclexx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're really amazing you don't know how many times you saved my life, so could you save me once again by please please do a video about bessel functions and also green function i would be so grateful

  • @halofreak644
    @halofreak644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    patrick got me thru high school calc, hope youre doing great man!

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i'm doing pretty well, thanks :)

    • @somasahu1234
      @somasahu1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickjmt proof by induction is used fro natural nos. Right?

  • @noahhysi8622
    @noahhysi8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the methods of proof.

  • @Sachica00
    @Sachica00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!

  • @brazzcode2005
    @brazzcode2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this in 2020, man you are great thanks very much you helped me pass my test.

    • @owengunning8410
      @owengunning8410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same (watching in 2020) :)

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad I could help!

    • @somasahu1234
      @somasahu1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickjmt need more for contrapositive

  • @Wegbm9
    @Wegbm9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u souch sir

  • @muhammadseyab9032
    @muhammadseyab9032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks

  • @nukesonly6315
    @nukesonly6315 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome videos! Wish I found you earlier.

  • @Logamn1023
    @Logamn1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful

  • @boodienoonga5451
    @boodienoonga5451 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish my professor teach like you

  • @najmanazrin5447
    @najmanazrin5447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where can i get more example videos? i really like the way you teach

  • @321Leviathan
    @321Leviathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well, another math class another semester of PatrickJMT, here we go...

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      please turn your book to page....

  • @issac1071
    @issac1071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. So I wonder which are advanced techniques? Could you please share books for basic and advanced techniques? Nice video 👍

  • @MrWicked187
    @MrWicked187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You should put time stamps on your longer videos

  • @DylantWelch
    @DylantWelch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you be able to do videos on automata? Specifically drawing state diagrams for languages that only accept some strings of 'a' and 'b'

  • @maryamnoor1869
    @maryamnoor1869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plz add a lecture on rectangular corrdinates 3 d sketching

  • @ryanalving3785
    @ryanalving3785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0 divided by any # is equal to 0.
    Any # divided by itself is equal to 1.
    The first statement would lead us to believe 0/0 = 0. The second would lead us to believe 0/0 = 1, there must therefore definitionally be something wrong with these axioms; as it is universally accepted that no # can be divided by zero.
    If we adjust the first axiom to, 0 divided by any # except 0 is equal to 0. We can resolve the contradiction.
    0/0 = 1 (this proof will remove "holes" from all rational equations)
    Further, if we observe rational equations; the asymptote (where the denominator = 0) could be considered to be both + and - infinity. As positive infinity is approached to one side of it, and negative infinity is approached on the other side of it. In order for the asymptotes to be consistent with the rest of the graph, any # divided by zero must be equivalent to + and - infinity.

  • @tiptoe1413
    @tiptoe1413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you have to say "immediate" successor in the proposition or have you not done that deliberately? The rule with addition of odd and even means that if a + b is odd, one of a and b must be odd and one must be even. So you don't need to?

  • @Psyop666
    @Psyop666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It took me a while to get my head around the proof by contradiction. I can understand why it's not really in favor with mathematician.

  • @hedayasharif3829
    @hedayasharif3829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Patrick you are the best when I don't understand something in class I don't mind because I know I've got you...great videos I really wish you were my lecturer

  • @mrmisspretty
    @mrmisspretty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hello and good morning.. i have a question like this, Let A: {n element of Z | (there exist k element of Z) [n = 4k+1]} and B: {n element of Z | n is odd}.. How do I prove that A is a subset of B and disapprove using counterexample that B is not a subset of A?

  • @omprakashsenapati5807
    @omprakashsenapati5807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you is grate

  • @annieneemak.m522
    @annieneemak.m522 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir can u plz put a video on teaching how to find the rank og a matrix

  • @HowConvert
    @HowConvert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is basic and useful

  • @weirdboo
    @weirdboo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Who else got lucky taking Discrete this semester? haha

    • @ohlalademx6576
      @ohlalademx6576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me 😭

    • @Tellmeaboutitdude1
      @Tellmeaboutitdude1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mee, how did you do in your class?? This class is really intimidating compared to calculus 2

    • @rban123
      @rban123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Discrete math was easier for me than calculus 2 was. But there were people in my class that were struggling, it’s different for everyone

    • @isheanesuvunganai6021
      @isheanesuvunganai6021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😥

    • @lucascrown9473
      @lucascrown9473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You saved me throughout discrete math, so grateful. Keep it up

  • @fairlypresent7668
    @fairlypresent7668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we go from q to p ? can we say that if c is odd, then there are two consecutive numbers such that a+b=c ???

  • @chethanjjj
    @chethanjjj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that sharpie scratch.....such ear torture. but great explanation

  • @Mickem90Y
    @Mickem90Y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a valid proof as well ?
    Consecutive numbers alter between odd/even, so I rephrased
    consecutives = odd
    as
    odd+even=odd
    Given
    # (2n) = (even)
    # (2n+1) = (odd)
    # { k, n | Z }
    Assume
    # (2n) + (2n + 1) = (2k + 1)
    2(n + n) + 1 = 2k + 1
    2(2n) + 1 = 2k + 1
    2(2n) = 2k
    2n = k
    (2n) + (2n + 1) = (2k + 1)
    2n + 2n + 1 = 2(2n) + 1
    2n + 2n + 1 = 2n + 2n + 1 # Done
    Since the equation shows true, and the steps are true, the assumption holds true.
    Right?

  • @CaptainWumbo
    @CaptainWumbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still confused by proof by induction. What if you had a statement all positive integers are less than 10? Intuitively we know it's false, but it works for k between 1 and 8. If you stop at k+1 you wouldn't know that. I come from a programming background so a lot of ideas in math are close but not quite familiar.

  • @xreed8
    @xreed8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks, but I hate the dry sound of sharpie on paper. Its like the sound of chalk on chalkboard.

    • @loofus9133
      @loofus9133 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what do you have against chalk and chalkboards

  • @zaylo9273
    @zaylo9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we write exception in proof? If we can't, how do we explain in another way?

  • @fikretcihan1747
    @fikretcihan1747 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations.
    Notification: I would like to inform you that I plan to include this video among the videos reviewed in my article "Analysis of TH-camTM Videos and Video Comments on Mathematical Proof Methods". Kind regards.

  • @nanakwame1061
    @nanakwame1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please can you solve more examples for all the proofs you mentioned. I still don't understand

  • @jaredabrahamcidfda4840
    @jaredabrahamcidfda4840 ปีที่แล้ว

    where did you get the definitions? Are you supposed to make them or will they be given to you

  • @Hythloday71
    @Hythloday71 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you prove the formula for quadratic roots, what kind of proof is that ? I like to call it proof by algebraic generalisation. It doesn't quite fit the 'direct proofs' in most 'abstract algebra' propositions and theorems.

    • @raheem201231
      @raheem201231 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hythloday71 ur not proving anything, you solving for x when y = 0

    • @dannyisrael
      @dannyisrael 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that could be considered direct? I tend to agree with the above comment, but maybe the statement being proven is "prove that if this quadratic equation has roots this formula will work". Showing how you derive it does seem like a direct proof since you work with the information given, apply true things, to arrive at the desired conclusion?

  • @saisameer5842
    @saisameer5842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got some idea about how to do the proofs hello brother can u tell me how to remember the proofs when there are many theorems in pg courses

  • @BestEssayServicesTutor
    @BestEssayServicesTutor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really sinking.. I almost floated in any lecture but I now understand.

  • @roseb2105
    @roseb2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    without looking at other proof methods how would i know that 2k+1 is another way to represent and odd number

  • @MiguelHernandez-lx9zl
    @MiguelHernandez-lx9zl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question abut the contraposition proof... If you negate the antecedent "a and b", would this not result in "a or b"?

    • @anthony1003
      @anthony1003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ~(A ∧ B) = ~A ∨ ~B

  • @StaticBlaster
    @StaticBlaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for these videos. Do you by chance have any general logic courses not necessarily in math but in a generalized case where you talk about inductive and deductive reasoning and other logical reasoning methods including coverage of all mistakes in logic (fallacies).

  • @theCJoe
    @theCJoe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good Video, but I think the induction could be clearer. Usually you show that the x+1 case splits into the x case and some other part. The x part is already prooven, the other part doesn‘t contradict it, so it is true for x+1. F(x+1)=x+1+x+2 = x+x+1+2 = F(x) +2. We know F(x) is true for some x, so F(x+1) is F(x) + 2 which must be shown is also odd.

  • @mortenrobinson
    @mortenrobinson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:52 I've seen some very elegant proofs by contradiction though. Such as the proof by contradiction of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic :-)

  • @manla8397
    @manla8397 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also proof by counter example

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      well, that is usually used to disprove something

  • @kalef1234
    @kalef1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that last one was a bit confusing. How does K+1 being the 'successor of k' imply a and b cannot be consecutive?

    • @Ceecee384
      @Ceecee384 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that got me confused as well. 2K+1 is ODD.
      but the assumption is: that A + B is NOT ODD. But it is ODD?

    • @1234s6
      @1234s6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Guys, the assumption is that a+b is NOT odd which means they CAN NOT be written in the form 2k+1(where k is an arbitrary integer). But since 2k+1 is equal to k+(k+1) this means that it can NOT also be written in the form k+(k+1). Hence a and be can not be consecutive.
      So once again:
      a+b can NOT be written in the form 2k+1. But 2k+1=k+(k+1). So can NOT also be written in the form k+(k+1). So if it can NOT be written in the form k+(k+1) then that means a and b can NOT be consecutive
      So it's much simpler than u think.

    • @CmdrColstel
      @CmdrColstel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was also confused on the reasoning behind the Contra-Positive approach. I think if you assume a+b NOT to be odd then you can say it is even or a + b = 2k. Afterwards, you express, 2k = k + k which are NOT two consecutive integers and you attempt to show that they cannot be; (k - 1) + (k + 1), (k - 2) + (k + 2), etc. As you go on, the numbers drift further and further away. Since by definition, consecutive integers are k and k + 1 OR k and k - 1, we see that a, b CANNOT be consecutive.

  • @bilalmolani7268
    @bilalmolani7268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If i am given a question to prove. How can i decide that i have to use one particular proof strategy?

    • @alexandertownsend3291
      @alexandertownsend3291 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If a question says prove that blah blah blah holds true for all integers try to use induction. If a question says prove that such and such a statement is true or false, but the question has nothing to do with integers then you should try one of the oo the other methods.
      If a problem says show that a rule has these constraints assume those constraints don't hold then use proof by contradiction to demonstrate that those constraints would have to hold.

    • @alexandertownsend3291
      @alexandertownsend3291 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are a few ideas, but there is no general rule. Proving things is not an exact science. Crafting the perfect argument (which is what a proof is) often requires trial and error. These are just places to start. Some problems are so difficult that there might not be an obvious way to use any of these methods to solve a given method. My advice is use trial and error. If that doesn't work keep trying these methods, but look for different angles to attack a problem from. If all else fails think outside the box.

  • @deiswish2280
    @deiswish2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:50 how is b = 2a? what if a = 80? b =/= 161. can you help me out on tht?

  • @fufuchan6854
    @fufuchan6854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This proof is the only thing which I can not understand it in mathematics😂😂😂 I don’t know how l will do in tomorrow exam

  • @ryleexiii1252
    @ryleexiii1252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about proof by seduction?