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BEST budget modeler SHOOTOUT | Mooer GE150 vs. the Valeton GP100
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2020
- Which one of these modelers is the best? Only one way to find out... a shootout! We'll put the Mooer GE150 and Valeton GP100 head to head and see which one comes out on top!
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Your playing in the demo reminds me of TBDM
They both sound amazing. I think the Mooer sounds just a tad bit more open and brighter. Wouldn’t hesitate to buy either
Just ordered the GP100. All I need is a reverb, overdrive, looper and tuner and theres no way you're getting all that in individual pedals anywhere near the price of this unit. The GP100's more rigid construction is what does it for me.
@Yngwie_toneI have one and I love it! My only issue with it is the different volume changes when going through different presets. I’m using an amp
@Yngwie_tone yes! That’s exactly what I did! I made a metal, solo, clean, and lofi! I really love this pedal! You just have to tweak it
I was wondering how many looping overdubs can I do with gp100?
@@fardinislam5314 I’m not sure. I don’t dabble in the looping section 🤔
I use a cheap legato looper with my gp100 keeps it simpler and has unlimited overdub
Not sure about the Mooer but in a shootout with the Boss GT-1 and the NUX MG 300, the Valeton GP-100 was the only unit that has the capability of toggling individual pedals on and off with the footswitch. That seems like something all of these pedals should do but apparently not.
I am a huge Mooer fan, most of the pedals sound fantastic especially for the price-the Mooer GE150 is no exception. Great Vid
Thanks! Yeah, they have some really quality budget stuff!
Just wanted to say thanks for the videos. Been binging lots of budget reviews and realized that over half of the videos I clicked on in search were you (good job on the seo 👍🏻 don’t touch anything! lol) I’m a very new guitar player. Only started playing acoustic 16 months ago when I needed to step in and lead worship temporarily at church. Turns out I wasn’t so bad and it’s now become my full time thing. Now I’m wanting to branch out into electric guitar and your videos have been an incredible help.
Also, I’m going to be “one of those commenters” to say I really was shocked when I saw how small your channel is. You are a great example of “dress for the job you want, not the job you have”. Best of luck with the growth of the channel, the quality is top notch.
Thanks! Glad my SEO is working 😂 I spend a lot of time on it. Good luck in your search!
It's funny, they basically sound identical when the custom IR is put in. I think that goes for a lot of these floor modellers. The IRs are always the weakest part and as soon as you put your own in you're good to go no matter which you buy.
What's beautiful about this high gain speedmetal stuff is that all you really need is some eq to level the playing field. GP-100 is scheduled to arrive tomorrow so I'll be able to see what kind of dynamics and variety it has to offer, as well as some bass amp sims to mess around with some QOTSA sludge.
Awesome! Enjoy!
I know it’s 3 years out lol but I’m considering the gp100. How has your expierence been with the unit?
The Mooer throttles the Valeton with the stock IR's but I was surprised with the custom IR, they both sounded good but I still think the Mooer sounds more "real". I used a Fractal AX8 as my main rig and even with it the magic comes when you get the right IR into the mix, once you find your favourite IR any one of the high gain models can sound amazing (especially if you throw a geq after the preamp)
Mooer is more closest to a real amp
Mooer seems to have higher resolution on the amp sims...both benefit from custom IRs, but the Mooer edges past imho
I've owned and tested, in multiple live situations, all of the different versions of this firmware build (for example, the Mooer GE150 is an exact clone of the Flamma FX100, but with a plastic housing). They all would be outstanding units, were it not for a couple of fatal, deal-breaking flaws that I've had the displeasure of experiencing while in live use. So, yeah...NOT good. The first problem I encountered was that, randomly, on some but not all banks where you build your own preset, the modulation effect will reset itself to maximum level, no matter where you set it when you built the preset. Yeah,I know. Weird! And their support team didn't know how to fix it. Again (let's see if I can explain this better): if you set up a preset with a modulation effect (flanger, let's say), and you set the level to "5", and saved it, here's what might happen on some (but again, not all) banks -- you'll turn off the unit, and then, when you turn it back on, the level on the flanger for that preset will reset itself to a level of "10". Have you ever hit a pedal in a live performance and had one of the values you thought you set to your preference be COMPLETELY out of whack? Yeah, it sucks.
The second problem I've found is that the expression pedal can NOT be reliably set to any other values than the default of: Min=0%, Max=100%. This sucks because I, personally, like to set my volume pedals to Min=50%, Max=100%, so that I have a set rhythm volume (Min) and a set lead volume (Max). Easy, right? Well, these pedals don't seem to be able to do that. No matter how I've tried (and again, only on certain banks), it just goes backto factory default.
So anyway, these are things you'll never hear from any of these gear review channels, because odds are, they don't actually use the gear they review enough to find all the practical flaws. What really irked me, though, is that the company's own support team was utterly clueless.
Which one would you recommend for high gain guitar and bass
@@heraldgreenbanger5488 valeton has now a global eq to squeeze the sound to your liking
@@jeffjarquin3570 thanks man. There’s so many choices now that it’s too hard for me to decide. Hopefully neuraldsp gets the qc to be able to use their plugins soon
If anyone is thinking about Donner Vs Mooer... I just had the Mooer GE150 and the Donner Arena 2000 in the studio. I have to say that the GE150 sounds more believable to my ears. The quality of the amp models and effects sound better as well.
So far, my favorite amp sims in the GE150 have been the JCM900, the Black Knight and the SLO 100. I've been using just the GE150 into my Orange Pedal Baby for band practice and it's been absolutely face melting!
That's awesome! I was supposed to demo one of those Orange pedals, but I never got around to it. You like it? I'll have to see about that again..
@@TaylorDanley The Pedal Baby 100 has been a total game changer for me. No more killing myself by hauling around my super heavy Blackheart 100w Tube head and cabinet. I changed to using the Pedal Baby after seeing CSGuitars review and breakdown. It was still a tough choice between that power amp or the SD Powerstage 170, the ISP Stealth but the Orange won out because of its power switch and neutral response which let my Mooer mini preamp pedal just shine for live shows. Since I found a great deal on the GE150, I figured that would be perfect to step into the world of multi effects. I set up about 4 custom presets based on song needs and haven't had to look back since. Just like you and several other reviewers have said, you HAVE to spend time tweaking settings to get your wanted tones and sounds but everything fitting on one pedalboard is so much easier and faster for set up and tear down. Now I have a portable rig to take back and forth from our practice space to home with no loss of sound quality in either location.
That's what it's about! I've had so many people jump on this micro rig bandwagon, I'm all about it!!
Thank you for all you're hard work and badass videos I have ge150 and love it!! Especially when you use the plug in the back with a phone to record
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Surprisingly enough I actually enjoyed the stock IR’s compared to the custom one’s. The Mooer’s IR’s were definitely better than the Valeton’s though. So good to hear some Engl tones, am a huge fan of those amps. Had a Blackmore a while back and there wasn’t really much that amp couldn’t do tonewise.
I don't know about the Valeton, but the Mooer is definitely annoying. It sits well in the mix but the amp sims are not really so different from each other. Have to say I was a bit disappointed after swapping it against sth else, recently. Valeton seems to have a bit more resolution in the high frequencies. Mooer unfortunately has a quaky sound in all of the high gain models. Like a wah that's been added. Valeton might be a better choice. Both are no comparison to the latest software out on the market. Try Amplex from NaLex. The Engl Savage emulation is great.
I love the blackmore amp. The Mooer Blacknight is one of my favorite all time sims of that amp.
Thank for doing these comparisons in context, basically in a way they will actually be used. Very few demos do this. 🤘🤘🤘
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Thank you for comparing the mooer ge150 with the valeton gp-100. I think the mooer ge150's take on of the peavey 5150 sounded more raw and organic compared to valeton's take on the evh 5150. both sounded pretty good(especially with custom irs). but I think mooer is the winner for me when it comes to the 5150 model.
valeton gp100 has global eq for frequency, Q(slope) and gain, low and high cut filters and 4 band eq at 100Hz, 500Hz, 1KHz and 5KHz. It comes up straight away when you press the global button!!
The GP100 has a Powerball II model! "Power LD" ...but I much preferred the Savage through my orange 2x12. I decided The Valeton was damn close to the Mooer for almost half the price. Thanks for the effort on this video, subbed.
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Uhm, they are about the same price. $150 vs $170
@@RafsGearReviews in AUS there was a much larger price difference, probably due to Valetons opening offer too.
It would be great ideia you could compare both with the Nux MG300, in a ckean mode
Keep your eyes peeled, there may be one coming soon!
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@@TaylorDanley ok, another subscriber here! :)
LOL I saw this too late, precisely today I was fighting between this two, finally I got the Valeton. The game changer, for me, is that you can change the signal chain. Nice video!
Thanks! Enjoy!!
Could you share again the IR you use in the video? Link doesn't work 🥺
I have a ge150 and i can't find a IR that make it sound like I want. Thank you.
I think the Moore sounded warmer on some, but the Valeton has Stomp mode and supports bass guitar as well, so that's huge added bonus's !!!!!
The price for either is super, so that's awesome !!!!
If I had no need for bass too, and didn't want the stomp function, then I'd probably sway Moore, but the way it is, I'd definitely get the Valeton because it fits my needs, and I can probably EQ it out with a bunch of different methods so it would sound just the way I'd want.
Great video dude, thanks !!!
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got the gp-100, sounds awesome with custom ir's...
For the most part I thought the Mooer had it all over the Valeton EXCEPT the stock sound on the Engl. once you went to custom IRs, Mooer won. Both still good for budget. Could you shut everything off and run just the IR in the fx loop of an older modeler? IR loaders on there own are generally $150 and up
I'm sure you could! I haven't tried it myself, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I feel like the mooer sounds a lot more fuller and rounded
Jeezz...never thought could see gp100 competitor in it price range until i saw this video..thanks for making this video man !! ...now a bit problem since ge150 is not officially released yet in Indonesia i guess
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The mooer won every round in my opinion. The Valenton sounded way too fizzy for me.
Bit on eq'ing really does sort that and the unit really shines tonally and functionally.
I just got the Valeton (the purple version) and it’s great. The Mooer does sound better and fuller but the build of the Valeton and the price swayed it for me. It takes time to tweak the EQ but you can get some really nice tones.
These units have come a long way since the crappy old Zoom multi effect pedals from the early 00’s. These are gig worthy.
Even the cheaper GX series from ZOOM will stomp both of these.
Zoom are great but I’ve had some of their older models die on me during gigs. I’m sure the newer pedals are built better but for the price, I wanted something that will last. Zoom really do have some awesome tones though. Honestly, If I had the money I’d buy a Mooer GE300.
@@lasersauceretroarchives6544 I disagree. I have both the Zoom GX1 and the Mooer GE150 and the latter sounds way better to my ears.
@@lasersauceretroarchives6544 I owned a GX1 and a G7.1ut, and now I own a G1XOn. The newer Zoom sounds from the series I have, and the even newer ones from the G1X Four with the same processors but better software modeling, make the older entry level ones sound like steaming piles by comparison. You have to go back to the flagship models like the G7.1ut and G9.2tt to get anywhere close, and it was mainly because they had a 12ax7 built in that they sounded decent. You could just turn the gain down and turn up the tube drive and it would sound more realistic almost immediately.
@@lasersauceretroarchives6544 To this day I still run my preamp pedals and modelers into a tube preamp before hitting any power amp if I can help it. If you use a MultiFX unit with an FX loop or use a power amp with an FX loop (Hughes & Kettner Stompman , I highly recommend using an ART or Behringer tube preamp in the loop.
please do try a Video of Multi-Effects units through FRFR Speakers (Headrush, etc) thanks! 😊
To me the GE150 beat out the GP100. Oddly the Stock IRs on the Engl caught my ear the most. Customs made both sound closer but the Engl tone was pretty boss 🤘. Cheers Taylor!
Thanks buddy! I gotta be honest, I used that savage patch so much back in the day, that maybe I'm just better at dialing it in haha.
@@TaylorDanley Nice, Savage confirmed! 🤘
I can't decide which one I like more. They both sound pretty killer.
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After i hearing that.. I think valeton is the best for tone, sound quality... But for mooer you can get more amp modelling, tone, and other..
I love your channel bro, I really do. I also love metal and all dub genres within. You play that genre well for sure. However, not everyone wants to play metal. Just a suggestion... but maybe when reviewing all of these items/gear... perhaps try and show various music genres in order to provide a clearer picture to those who may be wanting some of these items for other types of music. I say this because I recommended your channel to a friend of mine and when I asked what she thought about your channel, she replied... I like it, but Taylor seems to only review gear for metal music. Well chit ! Of course then I had to explain that the gear is not for metal only etc. . Very annoying when most of us experienced musicians obviously know that the gear can be used for many types of music. I suppose some people just fail to connect the together without someone clearly showing this. Anyhoo, rock on my man ! 🧑🎤🎶🎸🎶🕺
An excellent comparison on the example of heavy riffs. By the way, I liked the music even more, but what is this composition?
they both sound pretty dynamic for the price just a bit of EQ difference that u can injust internally or with an extra pedal etc lower mids for valeton i hear more mids for mooer
Whoah da WAR has just begun! MooerGE150 × Ampero-one × ValetonGP100 × NuxMG300 . . . Next content fo those tiny mod. :D!
To my surprise I'm preferring the stock IR's compared to the custom ones on all the amps. The custom IR's seem to be missing some low mid punch in this vid.
It happens. TBH, I couldn't find one I was 100% satisfied with so I just went with what I thought was a good compromise
@@TaylorDanley Just to be sure: it was not a complaint, but it did surprise me! Thanks for also throwing in some Engl sounds!
I thought the mooer sounded better, great job on the looped track, it defiantly showed the tonal differences in a variety of different ways. Great job Taylor, keep testing this shit, I love the idea of a small floor modeller, but can't wrap my head around only having a few buttons. I only use my high gain sound with maybe some reverb every once and a while and occasionally a clean. I know you don't really use any effects or anything, but do you find yourself still wanting that versatility in a small floor unit? it seems most these days are a three-button config.
I use effects quite a bit, so I for sure need that functionality. They both cover the basics for me, and the effects work fine. If you only need to switch on/off delay and reverb, you can assign the 2 foot switches in the stomp mode to those functions on the gp100.
It's doable, it takes a few more patches and planning, though.
I bought this pedal which I do really like it. But I’m having a issue with mine my display screen went blank white screen but it still works I can still use it with the software on my computer so I can see the display. I also contacted VALETON about the issue with the display screen on my pedal going blank white screen they told me to replace the power supply I did and still didn’t fix my screen problem so I’m stuck with the pedal just can’t see any of pedal effects but I still like the pedal it’s really cool great video 👍😎🎸🤘
Valeton also have an Engl Savage emulation in their Coral Preamp pedal, which is basically a micro preamp, but with like 12 or 14 different channel emulations ranging from clean to crunch to high gain.
Also I don't want to nitpick too much, but the third party IR you used here seems lack it was high passed a bit too much.
Possibly, I shot this a while ago so I cant remember why. Could have been some high end fizz on one of the units... neither have a global hi cut eq unfortunately.
Witch is better for you bro ? Tanks for the video. Awesome. ❤
Thanks man for this comparision, I think that Valeton sounds a little muddy, prefer Mooer clarity, a few years ago I was in a band called Beta Vulgaris where one of guitarist prefered muddy sounds and second clarity ,but together they sound perfect , try both in a mix.
Excellent job!
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this review is what I'm EXACTLY looking for. thank you🤘🤘🤘
Stock : ge150 wins
Custom : valeton wins
Cool video
With Stock IR's on 5150 I think Mooer sound a bit better, but with Custom IR's both are very similar. The stock IR's from valeton is not so good as Mooer IR's
I was wondering how many looping overdubs can I do with gp100?
I just placed a order for the mooer ge100. I hope I did ok, I got mine for 86.00 usd shipped. I came across the 100 an I see there 135 on reverb. It had a metal case ,USB an Ir's. Man I think the interface vs the moore se100 will be similar. I think the case,uab an amp Sims will kick the one I ordered butt.
Man, the Valeton 5150 preset was fizzy and missing a ton of mids and presence. Custom did well but the Mooer still sounded more mid focused and up front. More body I dunno
Preset please......🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😭....yo tengo la valeton....🇲🇽😁
I'm between boss gt 1 and one of those two.. What would you recommend me?
My GP-100 keeps disconnecting from the software. I don't know what's wrong but it doesn't seem to be a problem with the usb connection as I hear no disconnect-sound.
Sorry dude, I'm not good when it comes to technical problems. Hopefully their support team can help out. Good luck!
The MOOER sounded better to me. The GP100 sounded more compressed or something & the MOOER sounded more bright or clearer. Guess it just depends on how deep your pockets are on which one to get.
These versus TH-U boyo?
Thank you bro 😎🙌
Welcome 👍
can I use it for my electro-acoustic guitar, I really need something improve my peizo- output ...
Awesome!!!
Does the ge150 have a latency problem while switching preset? Like the preset will change when the footswitch has been released? Coz it is a problem for live, i dont want a fast action......
I did a video on switching.. Pretty much all modelers have some latency, and I don't think it's hugely noticeable between any of them, but I'd say it's the same as the GE200 in that video.
@@TaylorDanley I think the latency problems is from releasing a footswitch after pressing
it? If this is the problem, i shoud advance the click....
You did not notice it because you click so fast, try pressing it then release atleast 1 sec, see how it goes....
Who got the best high gain preamps?
I need a Honest to god opinion. Lifes got me messed up but im a musician so i must spend lol. I noticed. The pedal chain on it. Is the sound quality good enough for me to use this for like a heavier distortion or like keep a phaser or temello set up on it?
I always hate my friend's valeton tone. Now i know why, their stock ir aren't that great
hey! man! it a very cool, the best compartion! nice man!
Thanks! 🤘
Thanks bro. I needed this.
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@@TaylorDanley BTW does the mooer have a pitch shifter?
Both sound similar, but I think GE150 sounds better
Hey can you make a review of the USB record out of the Hotone Ampero One? I’m planning to buy it and probably gonna use it as my main recording interface for demo tracks.
I never use the USB out to record. Not because there's anything wrong with it, it's just a pain to have my computer juggle around drivers. I'm actually dealing with it right now from trying to run a product using the asio4all driver, which really messed up my system. In all honesty, I always prefer having a dedicated interface and only using the usb for the editing software for this reason.
Can you connect a 2nd expression pedal to the valeton gp100?
link to IR is not working anymore...
Man thank you so much. I also using valeton gp100 but I can't find great bands guitar patches how can I found I need your help
This is what I would do.... Research the specific tone you are looking for. See if the GP100 emulates the same components, and dial them in. Adjust to your playing style. Don't have your expectations set to sound the same, you'll chase the tone forever... Just try to get in the ball park, and something that you are happy with.
The Mooer ge labs is my fav iPad app.. can you load the sounds on there to the ge150?
Are the Valetron effects recorded in stereo? Positive Grid Spark records in mono as far as ive read. looks like it wors as an interface that will work with a daw
It definitely works as an interface. I'm not sure about the stereo effects.
@@TaylorDanley thank you for the reply. I'm assuming you can, on computer, create your own patches or foot pedal set up and save it on the pedal as a preset?
Yep, they both have their own editing software.
@@TaylorDanley think im gunna drop money on it. thanks for your help. And i subscribed.
Thanks a lot for the IRs :D
not a winner. Mooer it worked better in the mix, but Valenton is also very good.
Joyo Gembox three?????
🤔 I'll see if I can!
what processor is used in the mooer GE 250?
No idea
How do these sound with headphones?
Cool shootout. Have a great day.
Can you do a demo review of the Joyo gembox 3?????
The GP100 Does have a global EQ
Mooer sounds more fuller
moer is waaaaay better, hands down
Btw, the app for Valeton pretty close to Ampero... Hmmm
Hotone owns valeton.
Nux mg300 how do you feel.
It feels like it wants to be unboxed after sitting on my shelf for a week and a half!
Costum Ir? How? 🙄
Valeton is so heavy for distortion😍😍😍
Valeton sounds too digital and nasal sounding. They're both more digital sounding than Zoom, but Mooer is the clear winner in this test.
I get that you're a metal player, and only interested in the metal sounds. That's cool, but how about you just say at the start, or even better in the title, that you are only comparing metal tones. There is so much more to these boxes.
Yeah valenton is amazing ❤❤❤
too bad there is almost no sample of clean Sounds. I guess the video is just for metal cha cha cha cha cha cha
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GP-100 Is my taste ;D
zoom stomps both of these.
Ah...too bad you haven't had Nux MG 300 in your hands yet.
Efing awesome comparison btw.
Thanks! People keep asking for that thing, I'll reach out and see if they want to send one!
Jitiar, what happen with nux mg300?
Are they sound better than valeton gp-100??????
Here comes a new challenger: the DNAfx GiT by Harley Benton.
It never ends...
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harley benton is the same as the mooer ge150
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IR ? desapear ? nooooooo !!!!!
There's a bunch for free in my discord, link in my newer videos.
Nux mg300 win
More metal 😑 some cleans please 🙏🏼
GP100買った！
Really?? guitar out of tempo🤦
where? time stamp it bud, sounded good to me