BUCK 120 GENERAL KNIFE - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - STEEL: 420HC - THE LEGEND vs. JOEX
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DESTRUCTION TEST WITH THE BUCK 120 GENERAL KNIFE
STEEL: 420 HC - HRC 58
TORTURE TEST WITH CAR STABBING, TIP TEST EXTREME WITH the WOOD STAMP - EDGE HARDCORE TEST
FIRST LOOK - FIRST IMPRESSION - KNIFE REVIEW
Buck General Jagdmesser - made in the USA
SCREAM's Buck 120 Hunting Knife - movie knife
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What's funny is it seems all the knives everyone craps on about being weak stick tangs (like the Kabar, Buck 120, etc) end up taking surprisingly more abuse than the whole fleet of usual, much more expensive, full-tang survival knife options out there. 🤔🙃
I can't get over how well both the Kabar and Buck 120 tips lasted intact while something like the Fallkniven A1 tip just crumbled.
Granted, I never plan on stabbing vehicles and smashing cinder blocks with any knife ever but surprising results none the less.
yeah, thats really interesting for sure!!
@@wavepropulsion1 österreich not austenreich!
The tip stabbing tests are a bit of a hybrid test of toughness and edge holding. Edge holding to avoid rolling, toughness to avoid being simply getting smashed away. Those laminate ones are just the VG-10 at the tip. It doesn't last long at all with the very low toughness - it smashes away entirely as the knife becomes 1/16" or even 1/8" shorter very quickly. Meanwhile the stainless has a fair bit more edge holding than the most basic and toughest almost mid-carbons like 1055 or 5160. So the stainless doesn't get folds as much as they do. So the few tougher stainless out there like 420HC tend to be champions of the car and rock stabbing sections.
The Kabar is the same story. Their carbon-V clone lands in a similar enough spot to something like 420HC in the sense of being reasonably tough enough and with some actual edge holding over the most basic nearly mid-carbons which are tougher. (Why they down-sell themselves trying to confuse uninformed consumers into thinking they use something that is just their own spin on 1095...the power of name recognition in marketing I guess.)
So the next time someone calls Joe X tests only about toughness, remember: It is more like 90% toughness. He does a couple things that partially serve to check for edge rolling too (stabbing and chopping), and that is partially governed by edge holding.
Also this is a good example of how 3v isn't quite entirely hyped junk. This area of testing is the part those knives have obliterated the competition at - as should be expected since it is about toughness and edge holding here. Even the worthy of launching a meme with how badly it failed overall 3v tanto impressed Joe in this particular part, with minimal edge and tip damage after both the car and hacking through a thick section of antler.
@@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke thanks for the info!!
@@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke u know my videos, thats for sure!!
POV: you own a small family owned car junk yard and a random guy in a gas mask comes around every few days and stabs your cars then leaves
how often do you think i read such a comment?
🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I’m on the ground 😭.
I picked up a Buck 120 in the military when I was a scout. I needed something for the field to strap to my LBE. It was sharpened razor sharp which made the smooth handle that much more scary. I still have the knife. It was never meant for the rigors of abuse in your video, but it survived several trips to the field and a few deployments. It's still razor sharp.
cool!
How did you strap that kind of sheath to an lbe? Or did you change it?
Why did you choose such a large knife to strap to your kit? There is not way to molle this either. Your story is interesting i'll give you that.
I've strapped plenty of knives to mollie using 550 cord, plus they make clips that attach belt style sheaths to mollie
@@moose9410maybe it was pre Molle such as ALICE?
Wow didn’t expect it to take much abuse with the clip point blade design. Adding this to my shopping cart
this one is ok!
Trust me. It’s perfect.
@@halloweenfan3496 The man himself said so
Yup,. I just bought, a Buck 119 for this very reason ( Tougher than most of, us will EVER,.. "Need" ) and they hold an Edge,.. very well !
I will put some Sports Tape, on my Handle to get a better "Grip" and,.. enjoy, this Knife !
yeah, these Buck 119, 120, videos been popping up on my feed, I've got one in my shopping list for sure.... I'd like to find an old vintage one from back in the day.....things seemed to be built a little better in the old days....
For a thin pointy hollow grind blade with not much edge support it's pretty tough. These type of Buck fixed blade knives are very lightweight to carry, look good, and last forever under normal use.
yes they would last a long time!!
Nobody provides a better service to those looking for an excuse to buy a knife than Joe X. My first fixed blade knife was a Buck Fisherman. I was actually fishing in Alaska, took the knife out to deliver the final stab to a red salmon, dropped it on a rock sideways and the tip broke off about 3/4" down. I was so depressed about it. It was a Christmas gift from my dad when I was just 12 years old. I had a negative view of buck knives for many years because of that experience. Fast forward 30 some years and Buck finally (I've been watching their products for years) started producing the same knife designs I always loved with S35VN premium steel.
Now, thanks to Joe, I am going to replace that knife I lost so long ago, only this time with the Buck 119. That was a very impressive test and way more abuse than it will probably ever have to endure. I know many have said that it has long been a favorite hunting knife, but with that blade design and hilt, it would no doubt double up as a great fighting knife for self defense. I'm sold. Thanks Joe X.
glad u like my stuff! cheers!
Agreed. Self defense is what this knife is perfect for. I'll go so far as to say it's unbeatable in that situation. Light, fast and razor sharp.
Based on this test …. I am more confident in my Buck 120 and other Buck knives. I would personally never normally abuse my knife this much. That said, good to see it can take the kicks!
yeah, it can take some"
Holy shit I don’t know what alloy they use in the buck 120 or 119 but geez that’s some strong steel if it can murder the back of the steel on a car lmao 🤣
420hc similar toughness to 5160, so one of the toughest knife steels commonly available.
@@tinypanther3320that part of a car is aluminum usually
Test the buck 124 frontiersman. Probably the best Buck knife out there in 420HC with full tang.
aha, ok!
Yesir!
That would be interesting since it's such a sturdier built. I wish it wasn't so expensive or I'd have one
This iconic knife is stronger then i thought. This was one of the first knifes i falled in love with, when i was a kid. It was the knife, that the Ghostfacekiller used in the Scream franchises.
i never falled in love with a knife, thats kind of weird!!!
I know Joe don't falls in love with knifes, He F*CKS knifes up on his 1 date. 😆
its the handle - i like the black handle - a classic
@Based and transphobic but it does satisfy the cool factor - its a classic
@Based and transphobic
Wrap it up with hockey tape.
Should've did this test in a scream mask. I remember seeing this knife when I was 13 at a party. After I got "refreshments" I watched the first scream movie and thru the haze I remember seeing that knife wanted one ever since. I've got 2 119s but a 120 is on my list. Great test I love this channel and thank you for helping me remembering my childhood absolutely made my night!
cool, glad u like my vids, cheers!
The Buck did very well, glad their name still means something.
Great video ++
cool, thanks!
I own a Buck 120, and after seeing just how much abuse it took in this video, I gotta say that I'm quite proud to own it.
cool!
Some quality testing right here! Love this Knife! Great job Joe!!!
thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knowing under normal use the buck knife will never break makes me want to go buy one. 👍
buy one!!!!!!!
The handle is the only weakness. Grind some grooves into the phenolic handle with a file or dremel and never worry about it again. We've driven a Buck 119 through a refrigerator a dozen times and batoned it with a four pound sledgehammer. I still have it. I'd like to see the TOPS CUT 4.0
ok cool!
Hi, Joe. Im glad you still keep on this)))) Thanks!!!
cool!
Very impressive - I wonder how well Buck's s35vn steel would hold up in such a test
Thank you for this very informative video, you've got my sub and I look forward to watching your other vids 👍
cool. welcome to the show!!!! s35 would be indeed interesting!
From what I have read with the heat treat buck uses on the 420hc puts its durability rather close to the higher toughness of steals like s35vn. Seeing torture tests of the different materials would be worth seeing.
Agreed. I own the 120 in S35 as well as the 117. My 119 is 420HC. I'd love to see the super steel tested.
@@zraal3759
S35VN has actually lower toughness than the 420HC steel. It's 'strength' is edge retention. S35VN will be able to cut stuff/ rope whatever for a longer time before need of being sharpened.
But the Joe X video's between the Buck 120 420HC vs S35VN we all have seen now.
Hi Joe X , I wore out a buck folding knife blade. That I have for over 22 years and the Buck Knife company replace the blade for free under their life time warranty. I like the 420HC steel it hold up on heavy work. Keep up with the education videos.
thanks maybe i try the warranty, i love to educate, especially the "Fanboys" 🤣🤣🤣
@@joex send it in for repair. See what they say? LOLOLO. They are a good company and have great service. But I think this would be pushing it.
@@MrJoshDoty 🤣😁😁
Buck grinds their edges thin on the 110 and 119 these are hunting knives, and 420hc is a tough stainless.
ok, thanks for the info!
With that thin narrow hollow grind blade, it's pretty much the lightest fastest 7 inch fixed blade you can buy that's not a piece of shit. If you only use it for what it's designed for like General cutting purposes such as carving up deer carcasses or fighting bums on meth, it should last you the rest of your life and still look good. Besides the slippery grip, if you need a lightweight longer knife you can carry all day, it doesn't really get much better.
ok cool! thanks for the info!
It's not the steel, it's the heat treatment that matters most. Buck has been perfecting their 420HC formula for decades.
i doubt that!
@@joex Why? That knife did pretty well.
Dude the buck 120, a classic! I’ve thought about destroying one or two myself. The 420 HC won’t hold an edge for long but it is a much tougher knife than I ever thought
it was ok!
I own a few Buck knives and I always knew they are tough but I had no idea how tough. Thanks so much for the video.
u are welcome!
Thank You! I did not expect that the General resists so long! Good knife!
i was surprised too!
blades for the 120 were forged at ladish in cudahy wi. my father tested these blades himself he was given one whole knife with his name ingraved by the buck company i still have it
ok cool!
Told ya buck isnt as bad as you think ! 119 was just shy that day haha once the 124 is done it might give you a good insight on how good buck is. Maybe another someday for redemption would be cool
maybe i do it someday!
Not as intense as Joe X but he gives it a good workout.
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Although I watch this review months ago I just bought a brand new right out of the box Buck 120 General.
It cost 140 Canadian dollars.
Love it.
ok cool! it is cindys blade!
I'm actually surprised it stood up to that kind of abuse. That more than it had to after you hammered it in with the rock😮
yeah!
420hc is way under rated. Toughness is up there with 3v and others, its easy to sharpen, it is very stain resistant, and it holds an edge ok.
i kind of agree, some are good, some are bad!!! cheers my friend!!
This buck 420HC perform even better than the cold steel 3V premium steel.
@@colinlim3087 true, i guess!
I wish Buck would make the 120 with rubberized Kraton handles like Cold Steel does.
That would make it a perfect self defense knife because the smooth wood handles don't have enough traction for that particular task. I own several different 120s (in 5160 carbon steel, D2, and s35vn) and love them for display purposes. They would make good skinning and gutting knives for hunting though.
ok, for skinning probably awesome!
You can’t have a hard knife that holds an edge forever, AND yet is tough (softer) that will bend and not break, with cutting edges that roll (not chip).
A dull knife is better than a broken knife
-Noss
ok!
@@robertrhinehart4779
Anything heard about Noss?
He used to be on bladeforums also.
Those trollasses got the better of him sadly.
I liked his video's.
have to say im impressed,its simple 420hc with a hollow grind and stick tang it did alot better then i expected
i was surprised too!
420hc is tougher than 1095
That's why 420HC is one of my favorite knife steels.
Simple 420hc? It's about 5 times tougher then 1095. Tougher then 80crv2
@@JohnFrumFromAmerica about 4 - 5 times tougher at the same hardness yes
Impressive❤ i just ordered one from Buck! Thanks for the review. Great for bushcraft and very elegant
u are welcome!
I love all my Buck Knives, i have 110 - 119 - 120 and 124 Frontiersman
awesome!
I'm really suffering during this video... But thank you, now I know where are limits of my knife. And if I don't loose it, I think it will last forever. 👍
cool, thanks!
i want a knife that can do good in the stabbing part and survive all the tests this guy puts it through
for sure!
So glad Joe and his channel are back😂
thanks!
I love your channel but I also love that sheath.
I'm not a supertactical guy.
Just for camping and hiking.
Perfect sheath.
I think that's more for North America hunting/ farm boy types in mind.
ok no problem! i say what i feel! i can not help it!!!!
@@joex
That's called freedom !!
Sometimes I don't like what the other person says but I will fight for their right to say it.
And I do understand why some wouldn't like that sheath.
I totally get it.
The tip is much stronger than of the Becker and ESEE. Amazing.
9:56 At what point did the guard or handle got loose a bit ?
i am not sure when! i was in beast mode!
@@joex
Yeah I understand that.
Still pretty impressive that Buck.
Now I know why Ghostface uses the Buck 120.
Stabberty stab like no other. Haha 😈.
Now I see why ghost face loves this
yes!
Looks like Buck still knows how to make a great knife
this one did good"
The knife Ghost Face uses, nice!!!
yeah!!!! hot chicks in that mov ie!
What the hell? My buck 119 tip broke off the first time I was chopping through a deer bone. Didn't even hit the tip, and it broke. Now I just use the glock 81 knife.
thats bad!
Buck knives in 420HC with the BOS heat treatment is money well spent. Kept it's edge for a whole deer and was easily sharpened. They also have lived up to the lifetime warranty with grace. Send back the broken one and you will get another.
thanks, i could do that, thanks for the info!
I was between this and a benchmade… there’s no way in hell I’m buying a benchmade after seeing this. I’ll probably abuse it a maximum of 20% of what you did in this video so I’m excited to pass it down to my child in 60 years lol
ok cool! good to have children!
great knife - very good stabber - grandpa reached his limits and rang the bell
grandpa is horny right now!
This one really surprised me, because I've broken two of these knives with far less abuse than in this video. Maybe they've changed their heat treatment in recent years?
yeah, maybe!
It might be the steel.
"Before 1981, the specially heat treated stainless steel used was 440C, and from 1981 to 1992 the company used 425M steel. Since 1993, Buck has mostly used 420HC stainless steel for Model 110 blades, although CPM S30V steel has also been used for some production runs."
I had no idea antlers were that tough
Happy to see you got to this knife, thanks again man!
u are welcome!
When you torture a knife and it can take the abuse you deal out, well that is what I buy because I will never abuse a knife that way but it is nice to know what will work when I need it.
super!!! i like to show you!
Dang…. That is one durable ass knife 🔪.
yeah!
That Buckin’ test is a Scream baby!
oh yeah!
I can't believe that point was so strong
me neither!!!
Wow they must have a really excellent heat treatment.
on this one yes!
Ya, and keep in mind this isn't even Buck's best line of knives. They truly advanced their game above others.
ok!
I had a buck 119 I use for hunting. I had to hand checker the handle so it would not slip in my hands when wet
nice!
The question now is if will break going through a bathroom stall wall or a thick wooden door
yes!
Buck makes the edge of the hunting knives out of a softer material so in the woodlands you can sharpen the blade with a stone in a survival situation.
cool
Very good. I want to see when sidneys guts are open using this like in the movie.
yeah!
Buck always do a fantastic heat treat I bet it’s still sharp after all that !
not really!
@@joex Surprising but not surprising at the same time Buck know how to make a blade and heat treat it correctly though just a shame they don’t make the sheaths
4:17 i dont understand why the handle isnt rubber like bayonet
prrobally because buck expects people to hold it without gloves
and probally because it looks cool
or of the blood of your enemies, easier to wash"!
Hi thanks for the video, I think instead of wasting the broken blade, you can do a rust test with it as well, what do you think? Thanks
u are welcome!
Any one can break a knife, if you try hard enough. I don't, I use my knives for knife jobs. But this shows just how strong the Buck 120 really is.
so it is CIVIVI strong!
Please ,we know, we know! Quit .Such a wonderfully crafted knife .
it is dead now, long time now!
It is very interesting to see this video with 420. And then watch the 3v Tanto again.
yes good idea, thanks!
Geil, dachte nicht das es so viel aushält nachdem das 119 ja relativ schnell den Geist aufgegeben hat. Top Video.
ja, hat mich auch gewundert!!!!
Fucking amazing, Buck, and Joe
thanks a lot!
You’re going to wear yourself out bro 😎
nah, i am superman!
WOW! This knife is amazing! You abused the hell out of it! Definitely getting it! Scream and Ghost face have great taste!
My dad had a buck. Time to join his legacy.
this buck is good Darth, how is Luke?
I don't really like 420HC steel when it comes to holding the edge, but it is quite durable in a sufficient thickness.
ok!
Amazing knife
sure!
Great Job! My Buck 119 and several Kabar’s never survived myself as a kid. Throwing and/or Batoning firewood destroyed them fairly quickly...
be careful what u say, Fanboys are everywhere around here! haha
I like Buck knives...not much for people who can’t handle the truth...
@@dlrmon1 what truth?
Awesome video my friend I'm happy that it took till nearly the end of the video to break it just shows those things are built like a tank and I would definitely buy those buck parts from you that guard in palm could still be reused
i think that u are from the US and Shipping and Tax is super expensive thes days!
@@joex you are deeply correct shipping goes up every year here it's ridiculous but keep up the good work
I have this knife for 50 years with proper care, love it! Buck also guarantees their knives for life, but not for this.
Thats not good!⛔
Wowzers must say I'm very surprised of the performance
#metoo!
Look what you had to put it through it wore you out good knife
it kialled Ripley!
Gotta respect that Paul Bos heat treatment.
ok!
Been waiting for this one
cool!
The Buck 120 is TOP TIER for Any Hunter or Collector, also any Horror fan As well lol, Definitely adding this To my Cart Later on!!
ok, cool!
No wonder it was the movies "Scream" main knife.
yeah, nice stabber!
With that thickness and stainless steel 420HC . I think this is good one. If increase a little bit thickness it might not break by one man power.(Over 100-120 KG to break for tactical knife or survival knife i think it ok to carry for big adventure !! )
i have 79 kg my friend! do i look fat to you?
Oh no no 😆 i mean if this blade can break but you have to use 100 kg+ force to break this stainless knife. I ok to adventure with this knife. Do your best JoeX. I like your destruction test.
Wow, blade did well 🐝👍
yes, kind of it did!
I wounder how well the buck 124. Tbh I think it might preform better because of its girth
yeah!
I don't know about knives but won't any knife get destroyed if used in this way? I mean using it with the intention of breaking it will eventually break right?
not all!
Compadre, partió el cuchillo de la mantequilla. ¿Ahora cómo unto la mermelada en la tostada? Buck hace buen templado del acero 420 HC. La resistencia de la punta es prueba de buen trabajo.
gracias amigo!
Why don't you test the same knife with the different steels they used over the years too see which ones are stronger?
i tell u a secret, i tested the 120 + with CPM"35VN already!!!! dont tell anyone!!!!!
@@joex 😂 stop playin did u upload it yet? I gotta see that one for sure
Bro... Why? More respect for Ghostface Weapon :/
I actually snapped one these with my bare hands , good. Ife for camping , general light stuff, better off with a kitchen knife imo .
But definitely not good for an everyday knife out in the bush.
ok cool!
Great review JoeX, I have the 119 and the 120, the 120 is considered one of the best hunting knives it's been in a lot Hollywood classic horror movies.
It is ghost face's knife of choice! They originally tried to use the 119 but it looked too small
now it is in my movie!!
cool!
I'll haft to add the 120 with the 119 now im not a buck fan but I have a fue
ok!
Test the Eickhorn KM 2000.
I have mine for 20 years , since my army time. It's a German military knife. You don't get it broken, if the new ones are so good, as in the past. Test the 2000, not the others.
I'm very interested about this test.
nein! kein Interesse, sorry!
Impressed at how some of these clip points can stand up to tip abuse the way they do!
some are good some are ugly!
By far my favorite knife review, it’s funny asf to see some guy repeatedly stab a car 😂😂😂
awesome!
I'm sorta impressed he didn't pass out exerting himself with a gas mask on. I bought a Buck 119 for a hunting knife like grand dad had and am waiting for it in the mail.
i train a lot!
Buck 120 General, I like it's potential for stabbing and it held up fairly well with all things considered. ⚔️🦈⚔️
Good test of a knife I plan too obtain soon
JOE X ⚖️ the Buck Fixed blade didn't do bad at all in my humble opinion ⚖️⚔️⚖️
i think so too, much better than the BUCK 119 !!!
yayyy could wait ages for these test also
ok!
Love the look of the 120, you've just sold me on it. Cheers Joe
u are welcome!
buck wasn't choosen for nothing in scream 😌 never forget this. but i was really surprised also I have mine and it is like if I scratch the blade even i will flip out..😅 but your video begins directly with the whorst, and survived directly 👌💪😶
yes, it did good for a buck!
This more then proves a point …
Also Remember, never bring a knife to a gunfight….
exactly!
I own two one I got for my wife who’s a big horror movie fan as am I I got hers engraved with hello Sidney on it
cool!