Extended Footage: British Airways Engine Fire at McCarran Airport (September 2015)
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- This video provides additional surveillance camera footage of the British Airways engine fire at McCarran Airport on September 8, 2015. British Airways 2276 was a scheduled international passenger flight from Las Vegas, Nevada to London, England. On September 8, 2015, “G-VIIO” - the aircraft operating the flight - suffered an uncontained left engine failure and subsequent fire during its takeoff roll from Las Vegas-McCarran International Airport, prompting an immediate abort and surprisingly-less-immediate evacuation onto the runway.
The aircraft, bound for Gatwick Airport (near London) had 157 passengers and 13 crew on board. Fourteen people were injured during the evacuation, though none seriously.
Repairs to the aircraft were completed in February 2016 and it was returned to passenger service on March 24, 2016.
As this video dramatically highlights, airport rescue and firefighting (“ARFF”) units responded rapidly to this incident. McCarran is an ARFF Index E airport, a designation which governs the number and type of apparatus that must be available and staffed for ARFF emergencies. Index E airports service the largest aircraft in existence and must have at least three firefighting vehicles: one with a relatively small amount of water, and with a designated quantity of either dry powder or clean agent, and "two vehicles carrying an amount of water and the commensurate quantity of AFFF [foam] so the total quantity of water for foam production carried by all three vehicles is at least 6,000 gallons."
Clark County Fire provides fire protection services to McCarran Airport from Station #13, which at the time of this incident was staffed by 33 firefighters total, divided among three platoons of 11 firefighters who each worked ten days per month.
The primary response apparatus out of Station #13 were three Legacy (read: old) Striker 3000s, one of which was equipped with a high-reach extendible turret, or HRET. (ARFF units have taken some well-deserved heat from the NTSB and FAA for not making enough use of that versatile and demonstrably-more-effective tool. It got used here, though. Notice the insane volume of water flowing from the boom, on the left of the shot ~19 seconds in. You are looking at the first Oshkosh Striker 4500 8X8 that was ever built, and you are watching its HRET flow well over 1,000 gallons of water and foam per minute.)
The NTSB has been uncharacteristically quiet about this accident, so instead of linking you to a nonexistent accident report I'll do one better: Visit tiny.cc/britishfire for a massive collection of primary source documents from the NTSB investigation, including Boeing 777 emergency procedures, the cockpit voice recorder transcript, crew interviews, and much more. When (not if) you find something interesting in there, consider leaving a comment about it so others can check it out. The "Survival Factors Factual Report" is a great place to begin.
Some observations to kick things off: The CVR transcript reveals that the flight crew did not have anything resembling accurate information about fire conditions. In fact, the captain was under the impression that the fire had gone out after the plane came to a stop. He also seems to have been a bit frazzled, and in running the engine fire checklist the captain actually forgot to shut down the engine that was on fire.
Fortunately, the two - yes, two - first officers kept it together. One FO exited the cockpit to assess the situation from the cabin. He quickly returned, reporting heavy fire and stating they needed to evacuate immediately. The cabin crew performed admirably in the ensuing evacuation, and seem to have been very well trained. (Some of their training materials are linked above.)
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As an airline mechanic it really saddens me to see so many people come off that plane with their carry-on bags, never stopping to think that could have cost someone their life. Don't be stupid people, listen to your flight crew and follow their instructions to the letter. And if you're told to evacuate get your ass off off the plane and don't worry about your laptop. That's replaceable, a human life isn't.
And kudos to the fire brigade for such a quick response!
I have always wondered is there a reason why the overhead lockers do not automatically lock during takeoff and landing to prevent this from happening?
How long g does it take to get your carryon back after such an event. Considering these are International flights
@@harrybyton3639 It definitely sounds like a good idea to me as it could definitely save lifes in certain extreme situations but these planes are built to a price and everything on them is modeled, tested in simulations and thoroughly analyzed so someone probably decided the cost of such a central locking system would be too high compared to the benefits..
Ikr that infuriates me
@@u-know-this given the plane dont burn to a crisp, not very long i would imagine, as they could fetch as soon as aircraft is deemed safe.
I love how the ATC lady probably notices the fire already around 0:50 while giving landing clearance to Spirit Wings 356. At 0:57 she announced "Skywest 4770 hold position", I think because she knew big trouble was happening and at that time (already) sent the trucks 5 seconds before Speedbird's first attempt at 1:02 to declare mayday (which was stepped on by ATC who then immediately continued and sent Delta 2235 around, because Speedbird 2276 was (on fire) on the parallel runway). When delta (finally) finished readback she already started to tell BA (1:17) that fire trucks were on the way, before they were able to (finally) make the mayday call. That's real headroom! That lady is killing it. In any matter amazing professionalism by all parties involved.
I can't imagine how stressful that would be to wait for your turn down the slide. Those are some brave crew members making sure everyone is off. Impressed at the speed of the people coming down the slide.
For those rolling their luggage should also receive a ticket. 🤬🤬🤬
yeah never bring luggage from evacuation
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I just figured out why people here grab their luggage yet people in say Japan leave their luggage.
People in Japan are used to losing their belongings by disasters that happen around them.
@@jaredjohnson6714 They also used to taking people lives in unit 731
Super proud of the people evacuating using the rear slide - they're streaming out of the plane at an ungodly rate and then absolutely sprinted away from the plane.
And looks like no one that went out that way stopped to get their overhead belongings, thereby NOT putting everyone behind them at risk. Kudos to each one of them who didn’t!❤️
@@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 10:35 You see a bunch of people with their roller bags right about here. Not everybody left their stuff behind. Shameful. It just slows everybody down and every second could mean the difference between life and death.
@@damachine3 each one of them that had their bags should be fined.
@@damachine3 • Absolutely. I shudder to think if we who recognize the selfishness ever be the ones behind them trying to disembark. I’ll be doing some hollering, that much I do know!
@@gekorec • Absolutely. And maybe even barred from ever flying again. I think it’s THAT serious! When you think about it, each one could be charged as an accessory to manslaughter or murder that they contributed to the deaths by impeding those behind them trying to escape!
Awesome, awesome footage showing what I think could be called a textbook response from the crews at McCarran.
To those who are trying to make sense out of the response- a couple of key points about the objective of the large airport fire trucks.
1) Find a hole in the fire. Holes are where people are going to come out and you will be able to identify rescue pathways from where the fire isn't.
2) Maintain the rescue path. Notice where that first truck stages and starts working. The operator was positioned in a way where he could actually hit and contain the fire head on while eliminating the hazard to those evacuating out the front and rear exit doors on both sides of the aircraft. This was great positioning on his part.
3) Backup trucks will generally have to either proceed with direct fire attack (not necessary in this case since the first truck in nailed it) or as in this case simply work to contain the hazard with blanketing foam to suppress flammable vapours.
4) Once the aircraft is clear of personnel the effort can shift towards protecting the asset. This is an ongoing process from the beginning of an incident since protecting the asset helps to prevent fire intrusion into the passenger spaces- but once the accountability is confirmed then trucks are a able to call out their status (what we've done, what we see, what we've got left in terms of agents) and maneuver as necessary or go recharge.
This is practically straight out of the manual- and these firefighters just plagiarized it. Beautiful job in my opinion!
But still passengers put grabbing their bags ahead of unimpeded escape, putting the lives of others at greater risk.
It's kind of strange that no one mentioned the air traffic controller when this happened in my opinion she was very professional and holding all the other Jets from either Landing or taking off.
Assuming the YT time stamps/ATC match up, "Fire trucks are on the way" @ 1:25, foam applied @ 3:25. Now bearing in mind the firefighters had zero warning in advance of this and were likely sitting NOT in their crash trucks a fair distance away - that is an absolutely incredible response time. Well played to all involved (including the crew who decided early to get everyone off). A lot of people owe a few people a beer methinks.
Absolutely.
@mdo686 just to level set.. as a city firefighter in a town of about 80,000, we had about 1 fire call a month and it didnt always end up on the shift we were working so in a year, I might only see two or three. We trained every week at a minimum though. Aid callouts happened every day. most of those minor to moderate. Your point is real though.
You just know at least one person stood in the aisle and started rummaging for their duty free.
Extremely professional ATC, Pilots, Cabin Crew and fire services! And as a British person I am very proud of BA for their professionalism!
ATC ordered fire services and told other aircraft to go around before BAW even declared mayday!
The pilots brought the plane to a stop and started evacuation immediately
Cabin crew evacuating a large multi aisle airliner
Fire services arrived in 2 minutes and put the fire out really quickly
And of course other pilots having to go around
Surprisingly, the plane was considered repairable, was made air worthy, and was placed back in service.
Yes, and still going strong
14 September 2023 it's operating from London Gatwick to Tampa Florida as BA2167. Just searched it on flightradar24.
Yes and is currently flying from Port of Spain 🇹🇹 to London Gatwick 🇬🇧
as I write this 5th October 2023 9:17pm UK time
And I did not ever fly on it.
I’ve flown on her recently and she’s in fantastic condition. Very well maintained aircraft,
The British Airways pilot Chris Henkey was one week away from retirement, heck of away to go out,, both himself and the copilot were senior British Airways crew
Wow! They’ll both have something to tell the grandchildren.
Fortunate he was retiring or he would likely have faced termination for his failure to shut down the damage port engine in a timely manner and for parking the aircraft such that fire was blown by prevailing wind towards the fuselage. Disappointing from a BA crew. I gather the onboard fire suppression system also failed (it was deployed by the crew).
@@davidgapp1457 seems like a ignorant statement given that was not the conclusion of the NTSB or BA reports on the incident.
@@J4GGoon Ignorant...I would call it assholic! What a stupid statement to say the least
@@davidgapp1457 I'd be interested to know if you could have done any better. Fortunately BA operates a 'Just Culture' and they don't expect perfection, just the best that can be reasonably expected.
14 of 170 injured and no deaths. It's good to hear that after such a fire. The quick evacuation helped a lot. It could've been worse.
How were they injured? By the smoke?
@@aimfuldrifter Going down those slides and landing is nothing like going down a playground slide - and most passengers aren't in nearly as good shape as your typical playground child.
watching this and the similar American Airlines incident a year later is like a reminder that the 1985 british airtours fire wasn't in vain. the resulting changes have made a difference.
And as of Thursday 14th September 2023 this plane G-VIIO is operating a flight from London Gatwick to Tampa Florida so still life in the old girl yet.
Different engine though?
By trying to 'save' your carry on luggage, you are endangering the lives of others as well as yourself. A very selfish and stupid thing to do when evacuating from a burning plane.
I agree i would rip someone a new ass if they were in front of me messing with a bag while our plane is on fire
🤔...Umm, depends on what's in the bag! 😏
@@Slinger43 it doesn't matter what's in the bag, it could be $100,000 cash and it still wouldn't matter, lives are more important then any material items
@@TylerSilver Judging by the video showing so many passengers exiting the aircraft WITH their carry-on bag, I'd say a whole lotta people disagree with you & not just me 🤷🏻♂️
@@Slinger43 yea our society is filled with selfish people who don’t care about others but would rather save their laptop that can be replaced.
Shame on those grabbing their overhead baggage and jeopardizing other people's lives.
The only carry on item you should grab is the contents of a cot.
probably Chinese
who says it's overhead?
@@demi3115 Doesn't matter any luggage could slow down the process of exiting a plane..
This was a super speedy evacuation despite what people say. The fire service must be hailed during this incident. Super fast response time and getting the fire put out quick. Passengers also did a good job, no really big pile ups at the bottom of the slides. Textbook from all those involved, from the pilots to the ATC.
late but: considering tower almost immediately called for a go around on the parallel and then blocked Speedbird's transmission Id say yes, the fire department was notified and was likely already half way to the plane when they finally requested "fire services"
Absolutely. Occupants can’t pour out immediately until it has been deemed safe to do so, and the flight attendants have to get the “Evacuate” order from the Captain/PIC unless, I suppose, the Cabin crew deems it harmful to life to wait on the order. (That black acrid smoke was enough to convince me.)
@@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Fk that ! I'd have that door open before it landed !
It tooks 2.54 minutes between plane full stop and door opening, this is not fast enough for a massive fire. If the crew need to asses damages before ordering safe evacuation, then there is an issue in the procedure. lot's of things can happen in 3min, the procedure need to be updated to allow faster evacuation
@@TheKirilover I believe crew are required to wait for the captains evac signal (alarm or voice) as this confirms all engines are stopped, before slides are deployed, yet the 'rules' state a full evac is required within 90 seconds from 50% of exits.... from what Ive read. You're very right with the 3 min, remember the fire at Manchester many years ago, so many died due to delays.
Regarding the captain not performing an engine shutdown after pulling the fire bottles (last sentence in the second to last paragraph in the video extended description):
Part of the automated sequence of the fire suppression system is fuel cutoff to the engine. If he pulled the fire handle, the Eng#1 fuel pumps were immediately cut off prior to the fire bottles discharging inside the engine.
Thank you very much for this
I'm no expert, but this is the best video I have seen of a real time aircraft incident.
The ATC lady should take full credit and awards for her calm and multi-tasking of the initial response and not belittling the pilot who suggested closing the adjacent runway which she had already done plus the orders to go around for other aircraft. These pilots acknowledged without hesitation or explanation.
The fire crew were brilliant with their response, not only concentrating on the engine fire but also giving water and foam cover to the escape routes.
The passengers seemed to evacuate in an orderly fashion with the crew last to leave at the front of the aircraft.
But :::!! why were so many passengers carrying or wheeling their carry-on baggage away from the aircraft??
If that had been a cabin intrusion fire, how many passengers might have died whilst someone was getting their baggage from the overhead lockers??
Everything text book procedure by air crew and ground staff. But those entitled people with carry on luggage.Oh well they are dangerous. If they been hurt coming down the slide, have them pay for their own medical expenses for failing to follow a directive, that will save life and reduce injuries to your self and others. Just imagine one of those bags punching a hole in the slides.
So many passengers took their carry-on baggage because they value their stuff more than they value their lives, or the lives of their neighbors. Beyond this, we have a deep philosophical issue at play.
2:49 complete face-plant
I noticed too lmao
Kissing Ground Perhaps..lol.
It looks like he or she was so dizzy that it was too hard to walk or run.
Incredible piece of fire fighting here
That fire didn't f*** around. Hats off to the crew!
Boy, it sure went off big time. Congrats to the aircrew for getting all off alive and the ground fire crew for a great job in keeping it from blowing up.
Awesome footage
Although damaged, this aircraft was eventually returned into service, and as I speak (9 October) it's flying from London to Orlando.
It returned to commercial service sometime in early 2016 I believe. I saw pictures from the team of Boeing engineers how bad it was. It's Incredible they replaced so much
Correct, Stationed at London Gatwick. Everytime I am in this plane I think about this incident
Excellent video without fluff and CGI. Extremely interesting ! Aarre Peltomaa
Because this silly computer won’t let me edit my previous comment, I’ll just make another one here. I just wanted to give WYHS a shout-out for their very detailed and excellent info about this event in the drop-down. Thank you, and I’ll go there where you directed and have a look!
Excellent video
I remember taking off in Colorado Springs and our engine was sparking. We sat there as the emergency service approached. Fortunately no fire, but because the air is thin it does cause engines to over rotate. I was impressed how quickly the Colorado Spring emergency team arrived. Very impressed how quickly Denver team tamed the flames and the crew quickly exited the passengers.
Fire crew drenched that plane in no time! My hats off to the men and women from the fire department.
Well done fire and rescue service. Great job.
It took a few seconds for the captain to sort out if it was safe to evacuate the passengers on the same side as the burning engine, which would explain a slight delay. (I'm not an expert but my son is. He said; "Passengers could be run over by fire fighting equipment, run into the flames of the burning engine, or be enveloped by smoke and lose the direction they should be running in. All these considerations have to be made in seconds. In the mean time the crew are turning off the fuel, electrical, oxygen, and hydraulic systems, to isolate the engine".)
You mean 90 seconds( between standing still and slides coming down). Evacuation on the right side (and back) could have started way sooner. Chances of smoke inhalation and explosion's is a much bigger risk than reason you are given.
@@mumblic you're thinking of the 90 seconds certification evacuation requirement. This is 90 seconds from when the evacuation call is made, which doesn't mean the time it takes for the captain to make a decision. You have to be absolutely sure an evacuation is necessary and an indication in the cockpit alone isn't enough to trigger this. Like the video description says, the SO went to the back to visually confirm the fire. So the timing in the video makes sense. Anyway, in hindsight it's always easy to say "should have" and "could have".
What a crew!!! awesome work!
That could have ended very badly. Good work from all involved.
This incident and AAL383 are why I hope manufacturers will link the rudder cam to the RTO system so that once the aircraft is below 80 knots, the artificial horizon switches to an outside view along the airframe. It will not help with precise planning, but in these cases their engine diagnostics have had a significant delay and having a small camera view to show you if there is a massive black plume engulfing an engine and wing can save 15 or more seconds in deciding if immediate evacuation is required.
No added value in most cases, but in the few cases where ARFF does not need any directions to find the emergency aircraft, it could save lives.
Amazing how many people I saw with there roller luggage walking by the aircraft after the fire was out. Unbelievable!
Great knock down job by the ARFF dept. Very well trained !!
Anybody that has there luggage with them should be charged
If you need your insuline, or other vital medication, that is a different story. But tha makes me think to carry my medication in an extra bag around my neck, or something.
@@jorgschulze3393 Hyperglycaemic or roasted to a cinder, not a difficult choice..
ok Kareth
@@BTrip37 😂 I like it!
@@jorgschulze3393 You are at a well populated airport/city...I don't think getting medication after evacuation is that much of a problem.
I'd like to point out the rapid response of the fire services. They had the fire out in less than seven minutes from being dispatched.
BIG WELL DONE to McCarran Fire/Crash Crews...and all concerned.
I can’t believe people took their carry on luggage. They should be fined.
They probably had their carry on ready before evac. Was called.
What a terrifying experience for the passengers and crew
But not terrifying enough for some complete wankers.....they took their luggage
The skill of the crew to get everyone off.amazing
Let’s review some details and give all our respect to the cabin crew. In their most stressful moment, they could judge that doors. 2 left, over wings and 4 left were not available or unsafe…….this made this emergency evacuation safer. The cabin crew on this doors, had to wait and block those exit to stop passenger from exit by them. Very, very good professionals.
Great Job by the crew Glad they didn’t get past v1, rotate and airborne
If the captain hadn't believed the fire to be out, it is certainly possible that evacuation would have been a little quicker, but engines *do* need a few seconds to wind down to avoid sucking in slides, or worse.
The saving grace with Jet-A is that it burns like a diesel fire. Its not explosive, just burns hot and sooty
Is that some of the evacuated passengers that are coming at 10:48 ? More than a few brought their hand luggage in the evacuation...
Naive question here...So how long do the fire trucks stay on scene in case of flare ups?? As needed?? Also what happened to the tower and all, no voices..
The trucks normally stay on scene until dismissed or they are out of water. The ones that used the most will normally get dismissed early. As for tower comms, I can't explain that. With nothing moving on the airfield, they may not have had much to do. The approach control was probably dealing with the incoming aircraft and the ground controller was probably handling those on the ground, and they are on different frequencies from the tower.
Big thanks to the firefighters!
every1 was out of the plane when they came.....
Those people climbed chutes for their hand luggage? How come ?
As someone who has almost always flown on 737s, I can't even imagine what an emergency evacuation of a 777 is like.
Same as a 737, just a longer ride on the slide.
@@frankgrimesification Even with so many more people onboard?
Incredible job by ARFF.
My uncle was the first aarf to arrive when this happened he was pulling out of the airport when this happened
Me me me me! Make this about me. Otherwise, your comment has no point - other than to make it about you.
@@jdaz5462 hahahahaha okay cry baby
@@cntslesfabricationYou don't even make sense. Every comment you make is pointless.
Those fire trucks look heavy. Are they Kenworth, Peterbilt, or which company build them?
Oshkosh prob
Damn they put out that fire quick 😲
interesting tidbit about this event: Due to the fault being with the engine (General Electric) the company was forced to repair the 777 at General Electric's expense.
I live in Las Vegas and I'd see it parked over with the freight carriers. They patched up the big burn hole in the fuselage, the wing and a new engine and I guess flew back to England.
@@austindarrenor No, it flew to Victorville in SoCal to finish up the repairs and to be repainted
@@hermansugarmire6235 I've been thru Victorville many times, didn't know there was a big aviation facility and boneyard there. Though you can't see it from the 15 fwy. I would like to have seen what the 777 looked like for the short trip from Las Vegas to Victorville, i.e. what they did just to make it flyable.
@@austindarrenor Just look up British Airways 2276 on Wikipedia and there's a picture of it in Victorville showing what it looked like.
@@hermansugarmire6235 Yeah, saw it. There's so much delicate wiring and mechanisms going on inside that wing and fuselage I sure the hell wouldn't want to have to figure it out from fire damage. Though a $279M airplane and if GE's picking up the tab. I wonder if GE also paid the loss of revenue for it being out of service. Ouch.
Great response! I guess it takes some time to build up air pressure in the trucks until they can release the parking brake and get going from the garage.
1:26 There's always the jag off that just has to key the mic and clog up the frequency.
BA Captain on intercom: "Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, I apologise for this interruption of your tea, but there is a spot of fire on the left wing. If you would be so kind, it would be most convenient for you to proceed towards the rear of the aircraft and exit down the slide. Mind the gap, please."
los pasajeros que viajan en los aviones que estan por despegar y ven esto, creo que sera de gran preocupacion
The Power of those Airport Firetrucks are Incredible The way they can Smother A fire carrying 5 to 6000 gallons of foam
EMERGENCY evacuation yet they take hand luggage with them
Fire truck got there in 2 min...amazing!
Yes, it did take several minutes to evacuate the burning aircraft..
Where is this?.Hitrou
This video is old but why did there make almost 1:30 min before the doors where opened,The evacuation was fast but thought the door was close for a little to long after the plane came to a rest, maybe there wanted to know where the fire was before opening the exits ?
Read the description...
Porque tardan tanto en abrir las puertas?
passenger escape with the trolley....... incredible, stupid .
Good job
Good luck. We're all counting on you.
Why did it take so long to deploy the slides?
Pilots have to attempt to put out the fire themselves using the engine fire extinguishers first, if that is not successful the fire is then considered out of control, and you have to evacuate. They try to put I out themselves so people don't have to run onto the airfield if it's able to be put out, they would just tow the plane to a gate and have passengers get off there.
Fire Fighters earned their pay on this one.
I wonder who controls the CCTV at the airport?
Security
Fact - that aircraft was repaired and is back in service!
I only realised when I was flying from Orlando to the U.K. in 2018 that I was on this repaired aircraft. I took a picture of it at the gate and sent it to my son in the U.K. and he recognised it from its reg number as the one from the fire 🔥 good repair job , I would never have known !
@@ianjones3562 Wow that’s awesome haha. It was repaired by Boeing so it’s well done, many people including myself wouldn’t have ever thought that it would be repaired considering it’s 20 years old or so but the damage wasn’t that bad once it was all said and done
I flew on that plane also, I flew on it to London from Logan Airport in Boston in July 2016. I knew what plane it was beforehand though, I got the reg from Flightradar 24
@@hermansugarmire6235 nice!
Tardaron 2 minutos en abrir las puertas, ¿era la hora del te? y no venia bien?
And all the bookies were laying odds at how quick the fire would be put out 🤑
4 минуты это супер)) пожарным респект)) и группе эвакуации вы лучшие в своём деле ))
True dat!
Wow the next plane to land was close... SB 2276 heavy stops in flames @1.00 and the following plane looks like it flew over him at @1.28
Pretty sure he was landing on the parallel runway, go around was due to the risk the ba plane deviated and or possible debris and smoke
@@TomPidden not 100% sure but I can't argue with you.
Fortunate this happened before V2..
Same side as 'fatal Concord'..
🤔🤔🤔
the plane was almost stopped for 2 minutes until they start evacuating. What was the pilot waiting for???
Pilots have a checklist to run and several procedures to do before an evacuation, which includes ensuring the engines are shut off and secured.
@@j.joseph7473 I’m aware of that. All that is required to shut down the engines, which will take a few seconds to spool down since they were idling. The emergency chutes can be deployed right after. The endless shutdown procedures caused already many lives in other instances
U can see the right engine is still running after the order to evacuate when they start evacuating and word is captain was called out on that. Lucky people didn’t get sucked in
The flight attendants first had to come around and collect all of the rubbish.
Imagine the outcome if the engine had failed past v1.
If my luggage burn i'll take you all with me.
1:00 Speedbird is on fire. A whole 2 mins 30 seconds to any trucks - 3:18. They are evacuating exactly at the 1 min 30 seconds in. Good job BA but they could even evacuated quicker. 1 min evacuation.
ICAO standard is 90 seconds.
that's what i thought. why any delay in deploying slides surely seconds count with a fully fueled up aircraft?
bobsto997 as a Flight attendant in training i have to correct this,the 90 second evacuating process is between when the pilot announce to evacuate to when the aircraft is empty of passagers not when they just notice the fire or an emergency onboard and inform the tower that evacuation will be happening so yeah,Its the process of disembarking that need to take 90 seconds and not when the fire is first noticed by the cockpit crew and 90 seconds evacuation process is purely under cabin crew’s responsibility not the pilots.
@@bobsto997 It's because the smoke was blocking the pilot's view, the fire suppression system should have worked, and it's dangerous to evacuate an aircraft. The first officer decided to check the fire and that's when they made the decision to evacuate. Standard protocol really.
Fire checklists have been changed by Boeing after this incident. We now have a unannunciated fire on ground checklist which will lead to a rapid decision to evacuate in an incident like this. Having said that everyone survived as did the aircraft so not a bad job by anyone.
Speed Bird turned into Fire Bird
All on board were so lucky, by about 30secs. If that had happened just after takeoff it would have been a disaster.
I am surprised the tower did not tell the pilots how extensive the fire actually was. this could have gotten evacuation started sooner and engines shut down faster. the number 1 door L front would have been better not to be uses at the fire/smoke was threatening that part of the plane. Tower could have told them that. Over all I'm glad it went as well as it did.
Monday morning QBs are the best. This is literally text book crew resource management, evacuation, and fire response. The tower does the tower job. They get fire rescue rolling and then maintain the flow of traffic.
Kudos for the pax exiting the plane. Also some great high fives for the pilots, stewards for them getting the inflate ramps down. And a bigger high five for the firefighters to get the fire ipunder control and out, no lives lost! Yahoo for them !!!!!
Good old PFAS to the recue
All those people with their luggage need to be banned from flying ever again.
A few years ago In Russia, when a plane caught fire on the runway, people up front stopping to collect their bags killed 41 people who were are the back, couldn't evacuate in time and were overcome by heat and smoke. (The fire as near the rear of the plane)
If you ever need to evacuate a plane: LEAVE YOUR DAMN BAGS and GTFO.
If you're worried about passport, ID, money, etc, then keep them in your pockets. Simple.
승객들과 승무원들은 얼마나 무서웠을까 ???....랜딩할때 붕 ~ 뜨기만해도 지리는데 ...
True dat!
Exit time failure...
Is this typical response time for fire vehicles in the USA? They do a great job when they arrive but the response seems... glacial.
they arrived at the plane in about two minutes from when they first knew something was going on to dispatch them.
At an airport you can't just drive straight at the fire. The controllers have to stop traffic both in the air and on the ground, halt the departures, and give you clearance to enter / cross active runways and taxiways. And plus those ARFFs are huge and take a while to get going.
This The equipment that is on fire is777?
I was thinking what happen when it happens in sky instead of ground 😭😭😭
The tv show Air Disasters answers that.
imagine if plane exploded.....
And that bird was actually repaired and put back into service!
Took about a minute of huge flames to pop the slides, seemed kind of long!
I agree, especially on the right (first officer) side. there was no need to wait so long, I can understand that you wait with evacuating on the front left.
You have the benefit of hindsight, a comfy chair and an external view of the situation. In the real world it takes time to assess and instruct.
The passengers had to walk to the terminal..
Buses on Strike..?