Is there a musical note for the "perfect" tightness of the bandsaw blade? I have an app on my phone to tune my guitar. Would that work on the bandsaw if I "pluck" the blade"?
If you always have the same bandsaw and the same blade, you should probably always expect the same note when it"s tuned correctly. It won't work anymore if anything is changed. And this specific app probably won't get rid of the harmonics the same way as your tuner, because the purpose is not the same. So a guitar tuner may work in some specific cases, but won't cover all needs, far from it. (from what I understand of it at least)
Thank you for sticking with the app, I've had some minor issues but will update it now. I'm behind you and will stick with you, I respect you courage putting yourself out there like this. The market is an unforgiving place. 😉
I haven't had a chance to use my bandsaw tuning app yet because my bandsaw is still in shrink-wrap after moving, but I'll be pretty patient with it when I try it. I use specialized equipment for this for tensioning belts at work that operate on the same principle and the unit we use is $600 and they don't work very well most of the time. They're very sensitive to background noise, if you hit anything else while strumming the belt it won't work, the vibrating belt can't hit anything . The fact that you made an app that can do the same thing for a few dollars is impressive. I'm excited to try it out and I'd be happy to give you any useful feedback I can come up with to help.
Would lining a template with your cork rubber product be enough to hold a workpiece while template routing? I imagine that the downward force of push blocks would help it stay. But then again it might shift when repositioning.
Never tried it but I don’t think it’s enough, it would probably be fine when cutting, but as you reposition it I think it would be hard to keep the workpiece and template together.
In my experience, the bandsaw tensioning app works nicely. I prefer it to all of the other methods that I have seen and tried. And Andy's support of this product is peerless. Okay, there has been an initial glitch and that is frustrating for some users. But he's on it. He has been clear all along about development. Personally, I really enjoy being included in the process. I recommend participating in this one.
I normally drill a couple of slots in a base plate for any router templates, enough to fit the festool mft style clamps. Put the new piece and template on top of the base and clamp the three together. The base can either be sacrificial (first time), or just offset/thinner than the template to avoid cutting it. Obviously, this method sometimes requires a large bit. I'm sure a metal alternative could be a lot thinner and allow for built in clamps.
Glad to hear your working on app. Sorry it’s taking some of your energy to chase this thing. I am a “too tight” until the blade is way loose experience. I just didn’t want to give a complaint in the comments. I was hoping it was just my setup messing with the results. 14” jet with Timberwolf blades and IPhone X.
How do I get the updated version of the bandsaw app? The iOS App Store has v1.01 but doesn't provide way to download it. Also, shouldn't a repaired version just show up in app upgrades on the App Store App?
I purchased the Bandsaw tensioning program and wanted to ask if it is possible to make a button for switching measurements between millimeters or inches?
How does the bandsaw app get around the fact that linear mass density can be wildly different between different blades in a relative sense (even 10% is significant), thus highly affecting the end measurement? Regarding the issue of picking up harmonics, is the graph you showed us of the FFT a representative sample? If so, that's unbelievably noisy. The acoustic tension gauges I've worked with in the past have used active noise cancelling to isolate the sound from the belt, and even then they weren't super reliable.
The furnace was running in the background so I think (or hope) that this is a worst case, and I am still about to get a decent reading. How are you defining "linear mass density"? Do you mean that the blade width and thickness vary with blade size and therefore mass/inch varies? Or that the actual mass/volume density of different metals vary? different answer for each.
@@AndrewKleinWW I meant that if someone is using a blade that's not one of the pretested options, small variations in thickness, density, or even tooth geometry directly impact the mass per unit length of the blade, and thus what the ideal frequency is from the standing waves formula. Because the app is trying to set a precise tension not just relatively but in an absolute sense, it's pretty sensitive to the input parameters (mainly span and linear mass density).
Hi Andy. I was one of the ones who had issues with the "too tight" problem. I bought the app probably the first day it was available. After watching this video, I checked my version in the 'about' page of the app. It said ver 1.0 and the IOS store lists the app at 1.01 so I deleted it and downloaded again. "about' in the app on my iphone still says ver 1.0. Is that just that you hadn't changed the notes on the about page or am I somehow not getting the revised version? I didn't see any other way to update it.
Another way to check on ios: go to the app store, click on your profile icon (upper right), select “My Purchases”. You will see a list of recent app updates with the date. Clicking on the app icon opens the app store entry for that version.
Is there a musical note for the "perfect" tightness of the bandsaw blade? I have an app on my phone to tune my guitar. Would that work on the bandsaw if I "pluck" the blade"?
No, the perfect notes changes based on a bunch of specifics for your saw and blade, that’s why so made the app.
If you always have the same bandsaw and the same blade, you should probably always expect the same note when it"s tuned correctly. It won't work anymore if anything is changed. And this specific app probably won't get rid of the harmonics the same way as your tuner, because the purpose is not the same. So a guitar tuner may work in some specific cases, but won't cover all needs, far from it. (from what I understand of it at least)
i know I am kinda off topic but do anyone know a good place to watch new tv shows online ?
@Jabari Edgar I would suggest flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
The shopping vac can give you adequate vacuum for template routing you can also use an old refrigerator compressor
Thank you for sticking with the app, I've had some minor issues but will update it now. I'm behind you and will stick with you, I respect you courage putting yourself out there like this. The market is an unforgiving place. 😉
I haven't had a chance to use my bandsaw tuning app yet because my bandsaw is still in shrink-wrap after moving, but I'll be pretty patient with it when I try it. I use specialized equipment for this for tensioning belts at work that operate on the same principle and the unit we use is $600 and they don't work very well most of the time. They're very sensitive to background noise, if you hit anything else while strumming the belt it won't work, the vibrating belt can't hit anything . The fact that you made an app that can do the same thing for a few dollars is impressive. I'm excited to try it out and I'd be happy to give you any useful feedback I can come up with to help.
You are an inspiration,Andrew!
Thanks man!
I love ur videos and ideas especially the logic
Great salute from Algeria
Would lining a template with your cork rubber product be enough to hold a workpiece while template routing? I imagine that the downward force of push blocks would help it stay. But then again it might shift when repositioning.
Never tried it but I don’t think it’s enough, it would probably be fine when cutting, but as you reposition it I think it would be hard to keep the workpiece and template together.
Hooray! Knew you'd get back to it. Just bought another band saw and I saw the update. Looking forward to heading to the shop to give it a test!
Great, let me know how it goes
In my experience, the bandsaw tensioning app works nicely. I prefer it to all of the other methods that I have seen and tried. And Andy's support of this product is peerless. Okay, there has been an initial glitch and that is frustrating for some users. But he's on it. He has been clear all along about development. Personally, I really enjoy being included in the process. I recommend participating in this one.
Thanks for the post, I’m glad the app is meeting your expectations
Will you be adding the option in the parameters for a 5/8” blade?
I normally drill a couple of slots in a base plate for any router templates, enough to fit the festool mft style clamps. Put the new piece and template on top of the base and clamp the three together. The base can either be sacrificial (first time), or just offset/thinner than the template to avoid cutting it. Obviously, this method sometimes requires a large bit. I'm sure a metal alternative could be a lot thinner and allow for built in clamps.
Pretty interesting idea, Andrew! 😃
Seems to work great!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good result, thanks!
Glad to hear your working on app. Sorry it’s taking some of your energy to chase this thing. I am a “too tight” until the blade is way loose experience. I just didn’t want to give a complaint in the comments. I was hoping it was just my setup messing with the results. 14” jet with Timberwolf blades and IPhone X.
I mostly consume your videos for the music.
How do I get the updated version of the bandsaw app? The iOS App Store has v1.01 but doesn't provide way to download it. Also, shouldn't a repaired version just show up in app upgrades on the App Store App?
Hi Andrew! A very interesting program. Can you make a metric version? In millimeters, so you can choose millimeters and inches?
Was this comment meant for a different video?
I purchased the Bandsaw tensioning program and wanted to ask if it is possible to make a button for switching measurements between millimeters or inches?
Debugging is the priority right now, but a metric conversion function is in the list for later
@@AndrewKleinWW Ok, Thanks!
It be cool to use the Grabo for holding parts down on a CNC router. Mount it upside down under the CNC as a vacuum table
Yes! I think it’s an excellent idea.
Wouldn't it be more direct to apply a known side load to the blade and measure it's displacement?
Can the grabo pick up a full sheet of mdf they told me It wouldn’t just wondering if you have
How does the bandsaw app get around the fact that linear mass density can be wildly different between different blades in a relative sense (even 10% is significant), thus highly affecting the end measurement? Regarding the issue of picking up harmonics, is the graph you showed us of the FFT a representative sample? If so, that's unbelievably noisy. The acoustic tension gauges I've worked with in the past have used active noise cancelling to isolate the sound from the belt, and even then they weren't super reliable.
The furnace was running in the background so I think (or hope) that this is a worst case, and I am still about to get a decent reading. How are you defining "linear mass density"? Do you mean that the blade width and thickness vary with blade size and therefore mass/inch varies? Or that the actual mass/volume density of different metals vary? different answer for each.
@@AndrewKleinWW I meant that if someone is using a blade that's not one of the pretested options, small variations in thickness, density, or even tooth geometry directly impact the mass per unit length of the blade, and thus what the ideal frequency is from the standing waves formula. Because the app is trying to set a precise tension not just relatively but in an absolute sense, it's pretty sensitive to the input parameters (mainly span and linear mass density).
How do I get update please? When I look at app or google store I cannot find anything about updating
Great job. Thanks
Pitch finding is not a trivial problem. I've worked on it a bit if you want some help.
I have the app and it works great
Rikon 14” bandsaw and an iPhone 10
No complaints
Glad to hear it, thanks
the bandsaw app seemed to work fine for me thanks!!!!
Glad to hear it
Hi Andy. I was one of the ones who had issues with the "too tight" problem. I bought the app probably the first day it was available. After watching this video, I checked my version in the 'about' page of the app. It said ver 1.0 and the IOS store lists the app at 1.01 so I deleted it and downloaded again. "about' in the app on my iphone still says ver 1.0. Is that just that you hadn't changed the notes on the about page or am I somehow not getting the revised version? I didn't see any other way to update it.
Let me check on that and get back to you
Yeah that just didn’t get updates, I’ll fix it. If you see “enable log” and “export log” then you have the latest version
Another way to check on ios: go to the app store, click on your profile icon (upper right), select “My Purchases”. You will see a list of recent app updates with the date. Clicking on the app icon opens the app store entry for that version.
@@AndrewKleinWW Thanks Andy. I do have the latest version. Check it out tomorrow to see if anything shows different on my bandsaw.
@@dangreen7709 Thanks Dan. I see it was updated on 3-12-21. Confirmed I have the "log" entries as Andy mentioned.
I have an old General 14” and the app worked straight out of the digital box using iPhone 11 day the app was released.
Glad to hear it!
What about routing a groove and putting door-screen gadget, etc.
Could hot glue be used as a gasket?
If you could get it all to dry at the same exact height, that might work
I need an app that tunes the band saw so it can play Dueling Bandjos.
That would be something
Am i the only one continuously hearing graboid? Any othe tremors fans out there?