I feel like what separates Luka from a lot of foreign prospects isn’t that he wasn’t some project that had the body but needed to develop their skills. He was incredibly skilled and natural feel for the game, he wasn’t a project at all
He was an experienced player already when he joined the NBA, he was euroleague basketbal MVP. Besides being ahead of the curve in development, he also has some unique aspects that very few NBA players have, at least at his level. The ability to break down defenses and run plays is off the charts, especially for his age. He can make incredibly difficult passes, often manipulating the defenders with no-looks or shotfakes. (in my opinion only Jokic is marginally better at this) He is a huge guy, but his ability to switch tempo or stop on a dime is insane. He also plays really physical, but without fouling or it is so subtle the refs can't see it, but it takes his man off balance nonetheless. The ability to make shots while getting fouled, his finishing at the rim, incredible shotmaking with fadeaways, stepback and logo threes, his offensive package is more diverse than almost any player in the league. Also, he has improved as a defender, getting into passing lanes, making the occasional block or flatout pickpocketing his man with his quick hands. I think all of this is what seperates Luka from a lot of foreign prospects.
I think it's time for the NBA to lower the Age Limit in the G-League to 16. Doing this would allow kids to develop their game on a NBA level B4 they get Drafted to the NBA. Luka Doncic & other sports like soccer proves that young pros 16+ are more likely to become superstars with ofc exceptions of unicorns like Lebron, MJ, Magic etc.
I think he only needed certain number of games to figure out the NBA. The rules and players and the overall game. He struggled first half of his rookie year and then just propelled to elevate his game every year. It's just so great
What's funny is that Euroleague fans knew damn well how good Luka was and that he was supposed to be Nr. 1 pick but American analysts just kinda laughed at us.
People need to stop analyzing European players based on 90s and 2000s stereotypes. Times have changed. If Luka was American and played for a school like Duke he’d have been the consensus number 1 pick and a third of the league would have tanked for him
Here in Europe we couldnt understand how Luka wasnt selected 1st, we all knew he was about to own the NBA. Sometimes Euro players dont adapt, but that kid had an aura around him only the true greatts have
Especially the Suns who drafted Ayton over Luka, and got embarrassed by Luka in game 7 at Phoenix 🤣... Also Kings GM Vlade Divac got fired because he let Luka slide to no 3 and picked Marvin Bagley over him just because he wasn't on good terms with Luka's father in their playing days 😂
No only 2 teams did. The hawks took Trae at 3 and traded him to the Mavs at 5. I specifically remember this cuz I wanted my grizzlies to get Luka but because the Hawks jumped us just to trade down we had to get JJJ. I’m still happy with the way things turned out with JJJ but still
198 teams passed on Tom Brady, 2 passed on MJ, 6 passed on Steph Curry, 9 passed on Mahomes, 9 passed on Allen, 14 passed on Giannis, 12 passed on Donovan Mitchell & 81 players were drafted before Joe Montana. It happens
It's been a dumb argument for years. Anyone actually watching the ganes and not just at the points scored by trae young, could realize Luka was simply leagues above trae. Luka is an all-time caliber player, an MVP contender. Trae is a consistent all star level player, one of many.
@@thefebo8987 Giannis and Jokic weren't MVP's of the Euroleague or Eurobasket winners. They literally knew Luka was already a decorated pro- a better resume than any other prospect.
@@thefebo8987 no one knows the future. if the hawks made a better deal this season trae could be a nba champ while luka is still crying for help. and then you say hawks won the trade. thats just kinda how nba works. its shitty like that.
What's not talked enough about is Lukas physical strength. What guard in this league except luka can put his shoulder down into Draymond Green and send him back 2-3 feet? He is so strong. The biggest reason why he can be an elite fiinisher around the rim playing below the rim.
As a Spurs fan, I remember so many of us clamoring for a shot at Luka at the time. We have no prejudice against Europeans! If Kawaii hadn’t tanked his trade value that year, it would have been a perfect opportunity to rebuild instantly.
What was your scenario for the Spurs getting Luka? IMO, the Spurs' best chance would have been to heavily tank that season. Playoff teams were most likely to trade for KL. Hence, the Spurs would not have received high first round draft picks. The teams at the top of the draft were unlikely to trade all the way down for multiple lower picks and/or future picks.
@@toinengwyn3935 The Kings’ second pick. There wasn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t trade for a healthy Kawaii at that point in his career, but he was sitting out and no one knew his status. It being California and near his hometown, I think it’s plausible that he would have stayed…at least, the Kings would have convinced themselves of that. It’s not like they have a history of always hitting on their top picks, so why the hell wouldn’t they go for it with a player of that caliber?
You spurs fans may have wanted luka, but the spurs organization very clearly didn't care about luka. The spurs didn't want lotto picks, they wanted an all star player back for kawhi. And they got demar, an all star. They also got raps 2019 first round pick but that's irrelevant cuz luka was drafted in 2018. If they wanted picks, they easily could have gotten 3 first round picks from another team including a 2018 pick, plus salary filler. And if they really really wanted luka, the spurs woulda tanked in 2017-2018 season by trading LA during the season for a bunch of picks. Instead they chose to try and compete even with kawhi sitting practically the whole season, knowing full well that their pick would not be high enough to get luka since they were a playoff team. So don't blame kawhi for sitting out that season, he was tryna do y'all a favor. Blame the spurs for not taking advantage of that and tanking the season for luka. But hey, at least they learned their lesson now and traded dejounte for picks so they could tank for wemby, which they failed to do for luka.
@@JZ-mn8wv KL was going to opt out after the following season and hinted that L.A. was his preferred destination. Thus, many teams refused to part with valuable trade assets. Sacramento not only didn’t have a good reputation but was many hours away from his hometown.
Luka is Luka but Trae was a perfect fit for Atlanta and is performing way better than I thought in 2018 so props to him. Hopefully this can be known as a historical trade when both of their careers end
Trae is toxic in the locker room. You can disregard the massive skill gap between Trae and Luka and Luka is still the way better option. Trae is literally going to be a big part of the Hawks imploding. Luka isn't and won't be anything like that for the Mavs.
There was a reason that MJ hugged Luka at the 75 Greatest Player ceremony, MJ probably saw the same type of killer and winning mentality in Luka that he used to possess, the thing that separates Luka with everyone else in the League is his mentality and that's impossible to teach and once in a generation when you consider that it also has to match with the right skillset
Luka was the only young blood that MJ sought out to hug. Luka is special on the court, but off the court he's the flag carrier for MJ's shoe company representing the new generation.
Great video full of information to remind people what it was really like at the time people forget Atlanta had the front office exec from golden state and saw trae as steph and Kevin huerter as klay Thompson. It was defiantly a good trade atm for both teams but as time keeps passing Lukas lead will grow so as a lifelong Dallas citizen and fan of the mavs I’m glad it happened but great content 😁
@@inpursuitofexcellence750 everything. More rebounds more tripple doubles, 10x better defensive more steals more vision and court awareness better scoring. Litteraly EVERYTHING
Three All NBA 1st team in his first four years. That would be four All NBA 1st team in his first 5 years after this season and maybe an MVP.. Top 5 in MVP voting in the past 3 years. Trae Young has one 3rd All NBA team and he wont get any All NBA selection this year.
Because Luka has been such a huge success so early, it kind of overshadows who Trae is. Here’s a fact, at 24 years old he has a career average of 25/9/3. That is beyond next level. Go look at any great guards career stats at 24, and very few match what Trae has put up. Just look at Curry’s numbers at age 24 compared to Trae. Spoiler alert- Trae almost doubles him in stats at that age. That trade was the single best both got what they wanted trade. Trae was considered a bust coming, by almost 90% of ‘experts’ pre draft, and he has buried that label. Buried it almost day one. Luka has just been a step better at a young age. And to be honest, Trae gets a ton of whiny heat, and hasn’t really earned it. Every single time Atlanta loses we have to hear how Young is the issue. When Atlanta wins, no one says a word. Weird dichotomy there.
First of all love the Jurassic World shirt. Great video. Luka and Trae are both great players. Now Dallas and Atlanta need to build a team around them. Which I think Atlanta so far has done the better job building around their player, but both teams still need a lot of work.
the question is, how is It Luka wasnt selected 1st? 2 teams selected Bigs from college in a league going small over a teenager Who was dominating the Euroleague. Beyond me
it's unfair to dig on the hawks for the luka-trae trade, both teams got a superstar just one team got a better one, also when it came to the draft board Ayton was 1 and Luka was 2 yet the kings still selected Marvin Bagley and no one talks about that at all? The Hawks was the only other team in the top 5 that got a superstar other than Luka yet NBA fans need to make fun of the hawks for trading Luka. and before someone says "oh the trade was the worst one in that draft" it wasn't, the hornets traded Shai for a guy that beats women.
Love the content Tucker, might I recommend using some other animations for your backgrounds? I like that it’s not just you on a black screen but it was a bit funny to watch like 20 different backgrounds slowly enlarge and zoom into frame.
The Charlotte protected first that will likely be 2 2nds was sent to San Antonio as part of the DeJounte Murray trade. So it did help them get DJM at least.
It's very good take but you kind of missed the point about Luka. The only loosers are the Sacramento Kings, their GM at the time was Vlade Divac and if there was any GM who realy must have known how good Luka is, he was the one. Divac knew Luka's dad from his playing days, he had all the information about Luka from his contacts in Europe and he still missed, that's why he got ultimately fired from Sacramento. Here in Europe we had an opportunity to watch Luka playing Euroligue at the age of 17-18 years old and he dominated grown men, experiance players. There was no way he wasn't gonna be good in NBA
Remember at that time they already had Dennis Smith Jr. So trading for Trae will make their back court smaller. The Mavs drafted Trae FOR the Hawks. They didnt have any intention to draft Trae. Instead, theyre targeting Mo Bamba.
Trae 2021 - 28.4/3.7/9.7 on 46/38/90 Luka 2021 - 28.4/9.1/8.7 on 45/35/74 Trae was better last year. Luka is ahead this year after three months but Trae is scorching right now and will have very strong numbers by the end of the season. Don't get why people say Luka is better. Their numbers are the same and they've had the same team success.
And don’t straight up lie and say they are the same luka mavs record 172-131 Trae hawks record 141-176 Luka career stats 27/8/8 Trae career stats 25/9/3 Luka playoff stats 32/9/8 Trae playoff stats 25/8/3 Playoff elimination games Luka 35/10/8 Trae15/8/5 Luka 1 rookie of the year 3 x 1st team 3x top 5 mvp candidate Trae has 0. This season Luka 34/8/8 50%fg Trae 27/3/9 42% fg trae young career 43% fg Luka doncic 46% fg Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins. How are they the same. Trae fans are delusional
@@lawrencedanao7648 just look at the numbers. Trae was clearly the better player. Any object person would say so. He's the nba golden boy. He will get the votes either way.
@@lawrencedanao7648 lol. Completely ignoring efficiency. Focusing on counting stats that are largely based on usage in which Luka leads the league. Trae was way more efficient last year. Same points. More assists. U sound dumb
Luka is a great player but it is a fact that how he is playing won’t get the Mavs anywhere as is. I call Luka Harden light, he will put up these amazing stats and get these conversations for player awards however, him playing hero ball when your second best option is Christian Wood won’t get you anywhere. It took Luka playing like god and Brunson for a few games for the Mavs to get to the WCF. Trae can play like this till he is 35, Luka won’t be like that when he is getting older.
WTF !!!! Luka don’t rely on physical gifts to play basketball. He can play along time if he choses too because speed is a non factor in his playing abilities. The guys like 6’7 or 6’8 too. Young uses his quickness to score and is like 6’1 or something like that. Your analysis sucks ass.
@@Gregor77777 people tend to forget that yes Trae wasn’t good that series but John Collins was basically on one leg and had the hand injury, Capela was also injured for the whole series.
Well PHX, SAC, and ATL got the players they wanted. Remember when the Pistons had the chance to pick Wade, Bosh or Carmelo? I guess those teams remembered that EY players have a lot of bust potential and wasnt willing to gamble. But I had watched Luka's tapes for about 2 years before he got draft so it was obvious he was going to be a top player. They were calling him the European LeBron at that time so it's wild to think that he didn't go no 1.
Cam was VERY good in Atlanta when he played. The organization moved on from him as the rotation was cramped and Reddish was playing at a level that would require a good-sized contract coming up.
I mean, Luka is the better player but Trae made it to the ECF first. The mavs are imploding right now just like the Hawks. I'd say it was a win/win trade.
Maybe. But why Atlanta FO didn't keep Luka for themselves?...The fact that the Mavs asked them for such a deal should give them food for thought, right? But they still didn't catch on...
It seems like a good fit for both players. There is no guarantee that Luka gets minutes immediately on Atlanta. Yes the existing roster wasn't deep, though there were a number of established players already there. The Atlanta team was also tall so maybe Luka stays a SF the replace Vince Carter and Point God Luka never is. Likewise Dallas were still Dirk's team and had a tonne of small players so likely Trae doesn't get as much run early on an his one out scoring doesn't blossom as quickly as he needs to fit into an established system with a lot of big guys who are good scorers in their own rights.
That’s literally the weakest way of comparing players how far you get into playoffs. Who plays better in playoffs. Who has more wins. Who has better career stats. Who has more accolades. Only one answer to that
I still wonder what the Suns would've said if the Sixers offered them Ben Simmons for Booker. Just someone that LeBron would've been excited to play with to make him choose Phila over LA. Would've been a great spot for Simmons. Playing and developing with Ayton in a city with no expectations. And the Sixers could've ended up with Devin Booker, LeBron, Embiid, and maybe even enough assets to go after Trae Young. Sixers team would've owned the NBA for the next 5 years at least.
The dumb things trae fans say. Luka was an mvp candidate with a record of 43-21 when he played and was the 4th seed. He also got to a western conference final. Trae was 10th seed and averaged a triple single in the playoffs lol he had more turnovers than buckets. Lmao how was trae better last year. Trae fans say the stupidest things just to keep trae relevant compared to luka.
@@lawrencedanao7648 I'm not a */"Trae" fan" lol first of all B. Trae young averaged more points on better efficiency, More assists with better assist to turnover ratio, higher true shooting percentage, higher free throw %, higher 3pt %... Lol BETTER ON/OFF DIFFERENTIAL Trae was better AT LITERALLY EEEEVERYTHING And young took his team to the conference finals the year before so I guess young was automatically better than doncic the season before too based on ur logic lol
@@jagray3269 they had the same points he just had 1 more assist a game lol how about lukas 8 rebounds a game that doesn’t count right. wtf are you talking about stat padding on a losing team does not mean more than a player carrying his team to 4th seed and a conference final. Are you really that stupid.
@@jagray3269 and are you really trying to use stats as a way to prove trae is better lmao. Ok luka mavs record 172-131 Trae hawks record 141-176 Luka career stats 27/8/8 Trae career stats 25/9/3 Luka playoff stats 32/9/8 Trae playoff stats 25/8/3 Playoff elimination games Luka 35/10/8 Trae15/8/5 Luka 1 rookie of the year 3 x 1st team 3x top 5 mvp candidate Trae has 0. This season Luka 34/8/8 50%fg Trae 27/3/9 42% fg trae young career 43% fg Luka doncic 46% fg Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins. so who’s stats are better? luka is better by every category.
Yea it’s bad in retrospect but Trae I believe can be the second best player on a championship team while luka is a once in a generational player who can win rings without to much support at all and that’s honestly the difference, the teams that should be getting bashed are the suns and kings
Go read top 5 defensive ratings among guards. I can always tell who does and doesn’t watch Mavs games based on their view of Luka’s defense. No he isn’t a shut down guy, but Luka is a good defender. Sorry if you can’t handle that fact about him.
This debate is the dumbest in basketball bc it always changes. Two years ago people were saying Trae might be better. Last year there was no debate, Trae led in total pts/asts. This year, he drops off a bit and Luka balls out now they disrespect Trae lmao. It’s a lose/lose for him.
Their is no debate. luka mavs record 172-131 Trae hawks record 141-176 Luka career stats 27/8/8 Trae career stats 25/9/3 Luka playoff stats 32/9/8 Trae playoff stats 25/8/3 Playoff elimination games Luka 35/10/8 Trae15/8/5 Luka 1 rookie of the year 3 x 1st team 3x top 5 mvp candidate Trae has 0. This season Luka 34/8/8 50%fg Trae 27/3/9 42% fg trae young career 43% fg Luka doncic 46% fg Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins. How are they the same. Trae fans are delusional
@@lawrencedanao7648 when did I say Trae was better last year? I said there was no debate because they both were playing equally good. Trae led in total pts/asts (For some reason that always gets overlooked) but There was no stories or videos being made like this last year. It’s only happening now bc he’s going through a slump and the Hawks are underachieving.
You said it was no debate and gave traes stats implying he was better last year. Trae is always going to put up numbers because he’s a stat padder. This year he’s a top 15 scorer but has one of the worst efficiency’s. No way has trae ever proven to be equal to luka. One finals run does not make a player better plus luka did it a year after. Just look at the stats and votings luka is on another level.
@@lawrencedanao7648 no I didn’t imply anything I gave facts. And if Trae is a stat padder then wtf is Luka 😂 His efficiency rating dropped but if you actually watched some games and not just look up numbers all day you’d understand why. He made history just last year with pretty good efficiency tho so….?
@@dwaynem.1194 Why will u delete u comments, u know right I can see and still report u hate comment? 🤔 Atlanta did great like u say and Trae Young probably gonna leave u Atlanta. 👍🤣🤣
After having Nowitski for a generation, it makes sense that Dallas would try to duplicate that success, with Dirk mentoring a relatable young player. Fortunately it worked out exactly as planned. On the other hand, Trae young is half a great player. He can score 50 in a game and they still have a good chance of losing. Much like Damian Lilliard. Star players that can’t play defense never get to the NBA Finals. Doncic might not get there either, for that matter.
I thought Trae was going to bust in the NBA so I guess he proved those of us wrong but no it wasn't a win-win trade. Honestly it's better than picking Marvin Williams over Chris Paul but not a win-win when you decide to give the player reign when he has not played a game yet and he is as undersized as he is. Even if you want to recreate the Warriors, 1. Steph does not always have the ball in hand. 2. Steph passes the ball. 3. Steph moves off the ball.
Luka was the MVP of the second best league in the world at 18!!! The only reason he wasn't the first pick is the racism of the US basketball world. For some reason they decided thay if a player like Dragan Bender is a bust then Luka must be as well just because he is European, neglecting the fact that look was the MVP of the league and Bender was 'garbage-time' player in a below average Euroleague team.
Luka should have been No 1 no debate he was MVP of a men's league and won a European championship with his country!! He was playing agaist grown men who all have had great college careers and European experience
I feel like this draft is going to be similar with Victor being the clear 1 but we all know there are definitely others who will probably outshine him I feel like scoot might be better
Just more evidence the draft is a crapshoot. You can pay scouts, executives, management, do all the background checks, watch a guy play, analyse his habits, analytics, fit, interviews, and still get it wrong. There are so many factors contributing to a players success and to get it right is insane. Its a miracle were able to even narrow these drafts down to a top 30, top 10 and top 3 but guys still slip through and teams luck into guys later down too. You just never know. Its basically a educated guess at best to a complete throw in the dark like Anthony Bennett or Hasheem Thabeet.
trae is good, luka is a generational talent. at the end of their careers it's entirely possible that this goes down as one of the worst trades in nba history this could be reasonably equated to if on draft night lebron got traded for melo. no one on the planet would be saying it was a good trade because they're both hall of fame players
Lottery picks are made for this. Even not risking on luka was a riskier move because you are putting all you hopes in the unknown future when luka have already shown his skills. Other thing is the american media didn't do their work
Until one of them leads their team to a ring, I'd say its still been a 50-50 trade. I'm sure Atlanta and Dallas are happy with their picks, unless one of them wants out come the summer that is. Both have also made a conference finals appearance and that's basically it. There's an argument to be made that Dallas has given Luka a worse supporting cast than Atlanta's given Trae, but I think that will only become true if the current Hawks falter in the coming post-season assuming they still get in.
I understand it wasnt one of the most lobsided trades but for me it wasnt a win win trade as many people say Luka could become one of the greatest players in history while atlanta got at most 2 all stars that cant contend for a championship on their own.
How could anyone call Luka an unknown player and a project when he's coming from the second strongest league in the world beeing the championship winning team's leader and MVP at 18 years old? Atlanta lost this trade that's no doubt, but it could've much worse, if Trae turned out to be a bust.
Atlanta traded Luka for two All-Stars essentially since Atlanta flipped Cam Reddish for a 1st rd Draft Pick that was then flipped for Dejounte Murray. Trae has been a Two-time All-Star and an All-NBA selection and Dejounte has been an All-Star and is an All‐Defensive team selection. IT WAS LUKA FOR TRAE AND DEJOUNTE. W trade for Atlanta. Excellent asset management by Travis Schlenck.
nope you are wrong. cam reddish trade didn't resulting for dejounte murray at all. cam reddish trade is for 2022 nyk protected first round pick and dejounte murray trade is for atlanta hawk 2025,2027 and charlote horner 2023 protected first round pick,2026 pick swap and danilo galianari. no nyk pick in there. IT'S NOT A W TRADE AT ALL FOR ATLANTA and not excellent asset management at all by travis schlenck.
@@Darkrezta WRONG that Pick was top 18 protected by Charlotte and deferred to 2023. That's what San Antonio has right now. ATL used their OWN 2022 Pick to grab AJ Griffin out of Duke in the draft with the 16th pick overall. Like I said; W trade and EXCELLENT Asset management.
@@Not_Sal It's not mental gymnastics, it's literally what happened. The truth. Just because it's a Win for ATL doesn't mean it's a loss for Dallas either. No one has to "Justify" anything at this point. They both have the same amount of Accolades and neither has advanced farther than the Conference Finals in the playoffs to date. Any messaging pushing either player agenda is just biased propaganda to this point. It's TBD at best at this point in time. You Luka FanBoys can't even give props when it's due. It's sickening 🤢🤮
They traded away a A+++ player for a A- and B level players. On top of that, trae young is already trying to get out of there lol He’s had beef with John Collins and Nate McMillan, and already got another coach fired. Yeah hawks lost that trade but y’all will still keep telling yourselves it was an even trade haha
I would hate to have Trae Young on my team simply because I know his playstyle is never going to amount to anything.. Guys just simply are never going to enjoy playing with him and you automatically have the most predictable offense in the league because your star is incapable of playing without the ball. This not even mentioning his complete lack of defense. The Hawks are just stuck now since they won't get the crazy offer of like 4 1st round picks they would need to justify to move him...but they at least that Hawks ownership can keep milking his popularity with 12 year olds to keep selling merch 😂
One was an undersized guard showing glimpses of "wow" against boys... The other was already "hall of fame" bound before ever playing a single NBA game. It was not a hard pick... The talking heads in the US tried to will this away, but Luka was inevitable he was and is the force that cannot be stopped.
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I feel like what separates Luka from a lot of foreign prospects isn’t that he wasn’t some project that had the body but needed to develop their skills. He was incredibly skilled and natural feel for the game, he wasn’t a project at all
He was an experienced player already when he joined the NBA, he was euroleague basketbal MVP.
Besides being ahead of the curve in development, he also has some unique aspects that very few NBA players have, at least at his level. The ability to break down defenses and run plays is off the charts, especially for his age. He can make incredibly difficult passes, often manipulating the defenders with no-looks or shotfakes. (in my opinion only Jokic is marginally better at this) He is a huge guy, but his ability to switch tempo or stop on a dime is insane. He also plays really physical, but without fouling or it is so subtle the refs can't see it, but it takes his man off balance nonetheless.
The ability to make shots while getting fouled, his finishing at the rim, incredible shotmaking with fadeaways, stepback and logo threes, his offensive package is more diverse than almost any player in the league. Also, he has improved as a defender, getting into passing lanes, making the occasional block or flatout pickpocketing his man with his quick hands.
I think all of this is what seperates Luka from a lot of foreign prospects.
They basically got a rookie with already developed skill,IQ, and body
I think it's time for the NBA to lower the Age Limit in the G-League to 16. Doing this would allow kids to develop their game on a NBA level B4 they get Drafted to the NBA. Luka Doncic & other sports like soccer proves that young pros 16+ are more likely to become superstars with ofc exceptions of unicorns like Lebron, MJ, Magic etc.
I think he only needed certain number of games to figure out the NBA. The rules and players and the overall game. He struggled first half of his rookie year and then just propelled to elevate his game every year. It's just so great
Luka went 3rd is crazy, do NBA scouts watch the Euroleague? Now so much hype about. French 7:footer Who has won nothing. Crazy
What's funny is that Euroleague fans knew damn well how good Luka was and that he was supposed to be Nr. 1 pick but American analysts just kinda laughed at us.
People need to stop analyzing European players based on 90s and 2000s stereotypes. Times have changed. If Luka was American and played for a school like Duke he’d have been the consensus number 1 pick and a third of the league would have tanked for him
Here in Europe we couldnt understand how Luka wasnt selected 1st, we all knew he was about to own the NBA. Sometimes Euro players dont adapt, but that kid had an aura around him only the true greatts have
@@Not_Sal ? How about the Pau? They were drafted in the 2000s, he dominated in Europe, wasnt drafted 1st and succeded in NBA
@@javigar133 Pau Gasol shouldve went 1st in the 2001 fair enough but he wasnt as amazing of a prospect as Luka.
Especially the Suns who drafted Ayton over Luka, and got embarrassed by Luka in game 7 at Phoenix 🤣... Also Kings GM Vlade Divac got fired because he let Luka slide to no 3 and picked Marvin Bagley over him just because he wasn't on good terms with Luka's father in their playing days 😂
It's crazy 3 teams passed on the youngest Euro MVP in history.
No only 2 teams did. The hawks took Trae at 3 and traded him to the Mavs at 5. I specifically remember this cuz I wanted my grizzlies to get Luka but because the Hawks jumped us just to trade down we had to get JJJ. I’m still happy with the way things turned out with JJJ but still
u can say 3 teams passed, suns kings and hawks. what are you saying the 4 team is?
key word there is "Euro".
198 teams passed on Tom Brady, 2 passed on MJ, 6 passed on Steph Curry, 9 passed on Mahomes, 9 passed on Allen, 14 passed on Giannis, 12 passed on Donovan Mitchell & 81 players were drafted before Joe Montana. It happens
It was rigged dirk last year
It's been a dumb argument for years. Anyone actually watching the ganes and not just at the points scored by trae young, could realize Luka was simply leagues above trae. Luka is an all-time caliber player, an MVP contender. Trae is a consistent all star level player, one of many.
Sure. But you never know. Look at all the teams which could have drafted Giannis or Jokic but didnt.
@@thefebo8987 Giannis and Jokic weren't MVP's of the Euroleague or Eurobasket winners. They literally knew Luka was already a decorated pro- a better resume than any other prospect.
@@thefebo8987 no one knows the future. if the hawks made a better deal this season trae could be a nba champ while luka is still crying for help. and then you say hawks won the trade. thats just kinda how nba works. its shitty like that.
@@johnmarkson1990 Doesnt matter what help anyone gets Luka is better than Trae
@@michaelhe3138 hawks would trade 1 million luka 40 point games for 1 trae young title. and it isnt even close.
I called this on draft night. Atl made a huge mistake trading Luka for a salvation army version of steph curry
What's not talked enough about is Lukas physical strength. What guard in this league except luka can put his shoulder down into Draymond Green and send him back 2-3 feet? He is so strong. The biggest reason why he can be an elite fiinisher around the rim playing below the rim.
As a Spurs fan, I remember so many of us clamoring for a shot at Luka at the time. We have no prejudice against Europeans! If Kawaii hadn’t tanked his trade value that year, it would have been a perfect opportunity to rebuild instantly.
Lmao Kawaii 😂😂
What was your scenario for the Spurs getting Luka? IMO, the Spurs' best chance would have been to heavily tank that season. Playoff teams were most likely to trade for KL. Hence, the Spurs would not have received high first round draft picks. The teams at the top of the draft were unlikely to trade all the way down for multiple lower picks and/or future picks.
@@toinengwyn3935 The Kings’ second pick. There wasn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t trade for a healthy Kawaii at that point in his career, but he was sitting out and no one knew his status. It being California and near his hometown, I think it’s plausible that he would have stayed…at least, the Kings would have convinced themselves of that. It’s not like they have a history of always hitting on their top picks, so why the hell wouldn’t they go for it with a player of that caliber?
You spurs fans may have wanted luka, but the spurs organization very clearly didn't care about luka. The spurs didn't want lotto picks, they wanted an all star player back for kawhi. And they got demar, an all star. They also got raps 2019 first round pick but that's irrelevant cuz luka was drafted in 2018. If they wanted picks, they easily could have gotten 3 first round picks from another team including a 2018 pick, plus salary filler. And if they really really wanted luka, the spurs woulda tanked in 2017-2018 season by trading LA during the season for a bunch of picks. Instead they chose to try and compete even with kawhi sitting practically the whole season, knowing full well that their pick would not be high enough to get luka since they were a playoff team. So don't blame kawhi for sitting out that season, he was tryna do y'all a favor. Blame the spurs for not taking advantage of that and tanking the season for luka. But hey, at least they learned their lesson now and traded dejounte for picks so they could tank for wemby, which they failed to do for luka.
@@JZ-mn8wv KL was going to opt out after the following season and hinted that L.A. was his preferred destination. Thus, many teams refused to part with valuable trade assets. Sacramento not only didn’t have a good reputation but was many hours away from his hometown.
The other way this becomes a L for Atlanta is they trade Trae Young not sure what his trade value is but it's not Luka level of value
Luka is Luka but Trae was a perfect fit for Atlanta and is performing way better than I thought in 2018 so props to him. Hopefully this can be known as a historical trade when both of their careers end
I hope Trae lands on a team that suits him well, in which he can develop to be an all-time player. Things aren't looking great atm
Trae is toxic in the locker room. You can disregard the massive skill gap between Trae and Luka and Luka is still the way better option. Trae is literally going to be a big part of the Hawks imploding. Luka isn't and won't be anything like that for the Mavs.
@@connor_phillipz5689 yeah said the person who pitched a fit at the longtime coach of the Mavericks.
There was a reason that MJ hugged Luka at the 75 Greatest Player ceremony, MJ probably saw the same type of killer and winning mentality in Luka that he used to possess, the thing that separates Luka with everyone else in the League is his mentality and that's impossible to teach and once in a generation when you consider that it also has to match with the right skillset
Luka was the only young blood that MJ sought out to hug. Luka is special on the court, but off the court he's the flag carrier for MJ's shoe company representing the new generation.
Suns fan here. I still cry on the inside that we didn’t pick Luka. Well, mostly on the inside lol
Now he’s your daddy
I knew luka was special after this 1 time In practice he isoed me and did this Fade spin I knew he was special
James Johnson one of my favorite Mavs, despite the short stint!
Is the Luka-Trae trade the only trade in history where both teams got superstars and one team lost by a landslide?
Trae?superstar?
Luka fanboys actin like he has 15 rings, that kid hasnt even sniffed the Kings fingers
@@Dempig w.e you say sir
@@Dempig Every list has Luka top 5 rn, and Trae well out of the top 20. Not sure why you like sniffing ppl's fingers.
@@justindavid9979 Yeah and every list had the nets winning the chip 2 years ago, that sure meant a lot lol. I guarantee luka dont get a ring EVER
Great video full of information to remind people what it was really like at the time people forget Atlanta had the front office exec from golden state and saw trae as steph and Kevin huerter as klay Thompson. It was defiantly a good trade atm for both teams but as time keeps passing Lukas lead will grow so as a lifelong Dallas citizen and fan of the mavs I’m glad it happened but great content 😁
The Suns are really the ones who screwed up most. Because Luka playing alongside his son Booker would've been a dynasty in the making already.
Was never a win-win trade, Trae is nice, but Luka is next level.
What has Luka accomplished on the court that Trae hasnt?
@@inpursuitofexcellence750 L
@@inpursuitofexcellence750 everything. More rebounds more tripple doubles, 10x better defensive more steals more vision and court awareness better scoring. Litteraly EVERYTHING
And yet both have no rings or MVPs Let’s see how their careers play out
Three All NBA 1st team in his first four years. That would be four All NBA 1st team in his first 5 years after this season and maybe an MVP.. Top 5 in MVP voting in the past 3 years. Trae Young has one 3rd All NBA team and he wont get any All NBA selection this year.
All this doesn’t matter if the Kings don’t fumble the bag and take Bagley. Kings would be contenders right now if they have Doncic
Because Luka has been such a huge success so early, it kind of overshadows who Trae is.
Here’s a fact, at 24 years old he has a career average of 25/9/3.
That is beyond next level. Go look at any great guards career stats at 24, and very few match what Trae has put up. Just look at Curry’s numbers at age 24 compared to Trae.
Spoiler alert- Trae almost doubles him in stats at that age.
That trade was the single best both got what they wanted trade.
Trae was considered a bust coming, by almost 90% of ‘experts’ pre draft, and he has buried that label. Buried it almost day one.
Luka has just been a step better at a young age.
And to be honest, Trae gets a ton of whiny heat, and hasn’t really earned it. Every single time Atlanta loses we have to hear how Young is the issue. When Atlanta wins, no one says a word. Weird dichotomy there.
First of all love the Jurassic World shirt. Great video. Luka and Trae are both great players. Now Dallas and Atlanta need to build a team around them. Which I think Atlanta so far has done the better job building around their player, but both teams still need a lot of work.
Yeah. Atlanta as a organization has set up the team a whole lot better than the Mavs did at this point.
Luka just belongs in a Mavs uniform I couldn’t imagine him in a hawks
Well, just review the night of 2018 draft!...
the question is, how is It Luka wasnt selected 1st? 2 teams selected Bigs from college in a league going small over a teenager Who was dominating the Euroleague. Beyond me
There's a real chance Luka is the best-executed draft pick of all time
🤨O.k, we know ya'll love Luka but its getting ridiculous...one example, MJ was drafted 3rd🤔
@@Miles_305
Yeah... but they actually HAD a 3rd draft pick. The Mavericks didn't. That's why I said "Best-Executed"
I chose my words very carefully.
it's unfair to dig on the hawks for the luka-trae trade, both teams got a superstar just one team got a better one, also when it came to the draft board Ayton was 1 and Luka was 2 yet the kings still selected Marvin Bagley and no one talks about that at all? The Hawks was the only other team in the top 5 that got a superstar other than Luka yet NBA fans need to make fun of the hawks for trading Luka.
and before someone says "oh the trade was the worst one in that draft" it wasn't, the hornets traded Shai for a guy that beats women.
Love the content Tucker, might I recommend using some other animations for your backgrounds? I like that it’s not just you on a black screen but it was a bit funny to watch like 20 different backgrounds slowly enlarge and zoom into frame.
Btw the hawks traded the cam reddish pick to the spurs as a part of the Dejonte Murray trade
The Charlotte protected first that will likely be 2 2nds was sent to San Antonio as part of the DeJounte Murray trade. So it did help them get DJM at least.
The Kings are punching in the air rn watching this video lol. But at least they been doing great lately.
It's very good take but you kind of missed the point about Luka. The only loosers are the Sacramento Kings, their GM at the time was Vlade Divac and if there was any GM who realy must have known how good Luka is, he was the one. Divac knew Luka's dad from his playing days, he had all the information about Luka from his contacts in Europe and he still missed, that's why he got ultimately fired from Sacramento. Here in Europe we had an opportunity to watch Luka playing Euroligue at the age of 17-18 years old and he dominated grown men, experiance players. There was no way he wasn't gonna be good in NBA
Didn’t Luka tell the Kings not to draft him?
@@keithcato9388 I don't think so, someone would mentioned that..
Remember at that time they already had Dennis Smith Jr. So trading for Trae will make their back court smaller. The Mavs drafted Trae FOR the Hawks. They didnt have any intention to draft Trae. Instead, theyre targeting Mo Bamba.
Hawks made the wrong move
I understand it worked out fine for them but Luka Doncic is significantly better than Trae Young
If Luka leaves after his contracts is up (which I would do if I was him) then the hawks win the trade
I think both teams are happy
Luka 100% real MVP this season. Mark Cuban really targeting LUKA on the draft that is there main target!
Trae 2021 - 28.4/3.7/9.7 on 46/38/90
Luka 2021 - 28.4/9.1/8.7 on 45/35/74
Trae was better last year. Luka is ahead this year after three months but Trae is scorching right now and will have very strong numbers by the end of the season. Don't get why people say Luka is better. Their numbers are the same and they've had the same team success.
How was trae better last year? Luka was an mvp candidate and in the wc final. Trae was 10th seed lol trae fans are delusional
And don’t straight up lie and say they are the same
luka mavs record 172-131
Trae hawks record 141-176
Luka career stats 27/8/8
Trae career stats 25/9/3
Luka playoff stats 32/9/8
Trae playoff stats 25/8/3
Playoff elimination games
Luka 35/10/8
Trae15/8/5
Luka 1 rookie of the year
3 x 1st team
3x top 5 mvp candidate
Trae has 0.
This season
Luka 34/8/8 50%fg
Trae 27/3/9 42% fg
trae young career 43% fg
Luka doncic 46% fg
Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins.
How are they the same. Trae fans are delusional
trae is a good player but I dont think hes a number one option for any team that wants to contend srry
@@lawrencedanao7648 just look at the numbers. Trae was clearly the better player. Any object person would say so. He's the nba golden boy. He will get the votes either way.
@@lawrencedanao7648 lol. Completely ignoring efficiency. Focusing on counting stats that are largely based on usage in which Luka leads the league. Trae was way more efficient last year. Same points. More assists. U sound dumb
Luka is a great player but it is a fact that how he is playing won’t get the Mavs anywhere as is. I call Luka Harden light, he will put up these amazing stats and get these conversations for player awards however, him playing hero ball when your second best option is Christian Wood won’t get you anywhere. It took Luka playing like god and Brunson for a few games for the Mavs to get to the WCF. Trae can play like this till he is 35, Luka won’t be like that when he is getting older.
Wrong...
WTF !!!! Luka don’t rely on physical gifts to play basketball. He can play along time if he choses too because speed is a non factor in his playing abilities. The guys like 6’7 or 6’8 too. Young uses his quickness to score and is like 6’1 or something like that. Your analysis sucks ass.
If trae keep playing like that, he will never pass defensive team like miami
@@Gregor77777 people tend to forget that yes Trae wasn’t good that series but John Collins was basically on one leg and had the hand injury, Capela was also injured for the whole series.
Spurs have that protected Charlotte pick because of the Dejounte trade
0:50 - hold up, how is Trae Young rated a 7 in size and a 6 in strength? What does a 1-3 rating look like then?
5'5", 130 lbs.
This also highschool scouting so 6’2 is good size for guard going into college while it’s a different game in the nba
Makes no difference if neither of them wins a championship.
Well PHX, SAC, and ATL got the players they wanted. Remember when the Pistons had the chance to pick Wade, Bosh or Carmelo? I guess those teams remembered that EY players have a lot of bust potential and wasnt willing to gamble. But I had watched Luka's tapes for about 2 years before he got draft so it was obvious he was going to be a top player. They were calling him the European LeBron at that time so it's wild to think that he didn't go no 1.
I guess we're going to do this every two years. Shut em up again Trae.
Both went to the Conference semifinals with their respective teams .
Cam was VERY good in Atlanta when he played. The organization moved on from him as the rotation was cramped and Reddish was playing at a level that would require a good-sized contract coming up.
No he wasnt
Love the JW shirt! Respect
I just could never see Luka as a Hawk. Neither could Atlanta.
I mean, Luka is the better player but Trae made it to the ECF first. The mavs are imploding right now just like the Hawks. I'd say it was a win/win trade.
Trae young and cam reddish for Luka Atlanta fans must be so pissed at best trae is an all star in a good year while the other guy is generational
This trade esentialy kind of ruiened Luka the most tbh. I think he wouldve been to a finals already if he was a Hawk.
Maybe. But why Atlanta FO didn't keep Luka for themselves?...The fact that the Mavs asked them for such a deal should give them food for thought, right? But they still didn't catch on...
It seems like a good fit for both players. There is no guarantee that Luka gets minutes immediately on Atlanta. Yes the existing roster wasn't deep, though there were a number of established players already there.
The Atlanta team was also tall so maybe Luka stays a SF the replace Vince Carter and Point God Luka never is.
Likewise Dallas were still Dirk's team and had a tonne of small players so likely Trae doesn't get as much run early on an his one out scoring doesn't blossom as quickly as he needs to fit into an established system with a lot of big guys who are good scorers in their own rights.
You were wearing a marvel shirt in one of your videos, now you're wearing a jurassic world t-shirt
That is correct
They both have accomplished the same things in the playoffs. 😂😂😂
Luka 6.8 u Trae 6.1...
That’s literally the weakest way of comparing players how far you get into playoffs. Who plays better in playoffs. Who has more wins. Who has better career stats. Who has more accolades. Only one answer to that
I think people forgot that the luka and trae trade is not a one to one trade.
The mavs got luka yes.
But the hawks got trae plus 1st round pick.
bro HOW THE HELL was the youngest euroleague MVP EVER a controversial draft pick, I'll never understand it
He was from Europe and stereotypes
I still wonder what the Suns would've said if the Sixers offered them Ben Simmons for Booker. Just someone that LeBron would've been excited to play with to make him choose Phila over LA.
Would've been a great spot for Simmons. Playing and developing with Ayton in a city with no expectations. And the Sixers could've ended up with Devin Booker, LeBron, Embiid, and maybe even enough assets to go after Trae Young. Sixers team would've owned the NBA for the next 5 years at least.
Trae young was without question better than doncic last season and by the time this season is done hel probably be better this season too
The dumb things trae fans say. Luka was an mvp candidate with a record of 43-21 when he played and was the 4th seed. He also got to a western conference final. Trae was 10th seed and averaged a triple single in the playoffs lol he had more turnovers than buckets. Lmao how was trae better last year. Trae fans say the stupidest things just to keep trae relevant compared to luka.
@@lawrencedanao7648 I'm not a */"Trae" fan" lol first of all
B. Trae young averaged more points on better efficiency, More assists with better assist to turnover ratio, higher true shooting percentage, higher free throw %, higher 3pt %... Lol
BETTER ON/OFF DIFFERENTIAL
Trae was better AT LITERALLY EEEEVERYTHING
And young took his team to the conference finals the year before so I guess young was automatically better than doncic the season before too based on ur logic lol
@@jagray3269 they had the same points he just had 1 more assist a game lol how about lukas 8 rebounds a game that doesn’t count right. wtf are you talking about stat padding on a losing team does not mean more than a player carrying his team to 4th seed and a conference final. Are you really that stupid.
@@jagray3269 and are you really trying to use stats as a way to prove trae is better lmao. Ok
luka mavs record 172-131
Trae hawks record 141-176
Luka career stats 27/8/8
Trae career stats 25/9/3
Luka playoff stats 32/9/8
Trae playoff stats 25/8/3
Playoff elimination games
Luka 35/10/8
Trae15/8/5
Luka 1 rookie of the year
3 x 1st team
3x top 5 mvp candidate
Trae has 0.
This season
Luka 34/8/8 50%fg
Trae 27/3/9 42% fg
trae young career 43% fg
Luka doncic 46% fg
Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins.
so who’s stats are better? luka is better by every category.
@@jagray3269 Trae is only better when he makes those bricks, anyway he probably gonna leave hawks lol
Jaylen Brown next video Sporting Logically 🙏🙏🙏
This argument is luka in the post solid
Yea it’s bad in retrospect but Trae I believe can be the second best player on a championship team while luka is a once in a generational player who can win rings without to much support at all and that’s honestly the difference, the teams that should be getting bashed are the suns and kings
Go read top 5 defensive ratings among guards. I can always tell who does and doesn’t watch Mavs games based on their view of Luka’s defense. No he isn’t a shut down guy, but Luka is a good defender. Sorry if you can’t handle that fact about him.
It's win-win trade 💯
Nah
6'7 is more versatile than 6'0 just facts
He basically said I' m not shitting on Trae but I'm shitting on him lmao
This guy literally has a video about how much he hates Traes game. Let Mr find the link.
This debate is the dumbest in basketball bc it always changes. Two years ago people were saying Trae might be better. Last year there was no debate, Trae led in total pts/asts. This year, he drops off a bit and Luka balls out now they disrespect Trae lmao. It’s a lose/lose for him.
How was trae better last year? He finnished 10th seed while luka was an mvp candidate and wc finalist
Their is no debate.
luka mavs record 172-131
Trae hawks record 141-176
Luka career stats 27/8/8
Trae career stats 25/9/3
Luka playoff stats 32/9/8
Trae playoff stats 25/8/3
Playoff elimination games
Luka 35/10/8
Trae15/8/5
Luka 1 rookie of the year
3 x 1st team
3x top 5 mvp candidate
Trae has 0.
This season
Luka 34/8/8 50%fg
Trae 27/3/9 42% fg
trae young career 43% fg
Luka doncic 46% fg
Career head to head when luka and Trae have played Luka 4 wins trae 2wins.
How are they the same. Trae fans are delusional
@@lawrencedanao7648 when did I say Trae was better last year? I said there was no debate because they both were playing equally good. Trae led in total pts/asts (For some reason that always gets overlooked) but There was no stories or videos being made like this last year. It’s only happening now bc he’s going through a slump and the Hawks are underachieving.
You said it was no debate and gave traes stats implying he was better last year. Trae is always going to put up numbers because he’s a stat padder. This year he’s a top 15 scorer but has one of the worst efficiency’s. No way has trae ever proven to be equal to luka. One finals run does not make a player better plus luka did it a year after. Just look at the stats and votings luka is on another level.
@@lawrencedanao7648 no I didn’t imply anything I gave facts. And if Trae is a stat padder then wtf is Luka 😂 His efficiency rating dropped but if you actually watched some games and not just look up numbers all day you’d understand why. He made history just last year with pretty good efficiency tho so….?
Atlanta did fine
They didn't completely bomb.
@@samuelmorse784 this ain’t Tatum for Fultz
The worst trade in History for Nba club competition.
Luka Dončić for Trae Young hahah 🤣🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@nelAjamZyou don’t know basketball. Lil ass boy.
@@dwaynem.1194 Why will u delete u comments, u know right I can see and still report u hate comment? 🤔
Atlanta did great like u say and Trae Young probably gonna leave u Atlanta. 👍🤣🤣
After having Nowitski for a generation, it makes sense that Dallas would try to duplicate that success, with Dirk mentoring a relatable young player. Fortunately it worked out exactly as planned.
On the other hand, Trae young is half a great player. He can score 50 in a game and they still have a good chance of losing. Much like Damian Lilliard. Star players that can’t play defense never get to the NBA Finals. Doncic might not get there either, for that matter.
I thought Trae was going to bust in the NBA so I guess he proved those of us wrong but no it wasn't a win-win trade. Honestly it's better than picking Marvin Williams over Chris Paul but not a win-win when you decide to give the player reign when he has not played a game yet and he is as undersized as he is. Even if you want to recreate the Warriors, 1. Steph does not always have the ball in hand. 2. Steph passes the ball. 3. Steph moves off the ball.
Luka was the MVP of the second best league in the world at 18!!! The only reason he wasn't the first pick is the racism of the US basketball world. For some reason they decided thay if a player like Dragan Bender is a bust then Luka must be as well just because he is European, neglecting the fact that look was the MVP of the league and Bender was 'garbage-time' player in a below average Euroleague team.
Is not second but overall better club competition Leaque overall than Nba.
Luka should have been No 1 no debate he was MVP of a men's league and won a European championship with his country!! He was playing agaist grown men who all have had great college careers and European experience
I feel like this draft is going to be similar with Victor being the clear 1 but we all know there are definitely others who will probably outshine him I feel like scoot might be better
Luka was not a controversial draft pick at all. He should have gone 2nd to the Kings.
Just more evidence the draft is a crapshoot. You can pay scouts, executives, management, do all the background checks, watch a guy play, analyse his habits, analytics, fit, interviews, and still get it wrong. There are so many factors contributing to a players success and to get it right is insane. Its a miracle were able to even narrow these drafts down to a top 30, top 10 and top 3 but guys still slip through and teams luck into guys later down too. You just never know. Its basically a educated guess at best to a complete throw in the dark like Anthony Bennett or Hasheem Thabeet.
It's going to be hard for my hawks to realize and react to the fact Trae will only lead you to 43 wins but that is I believe the facts!!!
We 🇸🇮 🇸🇮 Slovenijaans. 🤘🏻
The only way that this trade can be considered as W-W, is that Trae get a ring with ATL
trae is good, luka is a generational talent. at the end of their careers it's entirely possible that this goes down as one of the worst trades in nba history
this could be reasonably equated to if on draft night lebron got traded for melo. no one on the planet would be saying it was a good trade because they're both hall of fame players
Lottery picks are made for this. Even not risking on luka was a riskier move because you are putting all you hopes in the unknown future when luka have already shown his skills. Other thing is the american media didn't do their work
A score of 9 on Leadership under the scouting report for Trae Young was dead wrong. He's already a distraction to his team.
Trae young is too small to build a team around. I always knew he would put up flashy numbers and early playoff exits
The hornets pick got traded to get dejounte Murray
And there is the Kings who have a chance to pick them but pass on them both
Trae shooting them out of the game used to be “trae crazy logo shots” 😭
46/41/90 so far this month. Trae's slump is over.
Well that extra 1st became garbage anyway
Until one of them leads their team to a ring, I'd say its still been a 50-50 trade. I'm sure Atlanta and Dallas are happy with their picks, unless one of them wants out come the summer that is. Both have also made a conference finals appearance and that's basically it.
There's an argument to be made that Dallas has given Luka a worse supporting cast than Atlanta's given Trae, but I think that will only become true if the current Hawks falter in the coming post-season assuming they still get in.
thats just lazy analysis. atlanta aint happy with this situation. have you paid attention to them?
It’s as far as a win/win trade as there is, IMO.
I understand it wasnt one of the most lobsided trades but for me it wasnt a win win trade as many people say Luka could become one of the greatest players in history while atlanta got at most 2 all stars that cant contend for a championship on their own.
Atlanta trades the Charlotte pick for DJM
Man I remember so many hawks fans claiming Trae was better than Luka after he made the ECF.
Such a desperate argument lol
So that’s why ATL made that deal because the extra pick they got ,I was wondering like damn Luka was Literally in y’all Lap
How could anyone call Luka an unknown player and a project when he's coming from the second strongest league in the world beeing the championship winning team's leader and MVP at 18 years old? Atlanta lost this trade that's no doubt, but it could've much worse, if Trae turned out to be a bust.
Plus Lukas carreer is gonna be very short term and No Chips!!
Wco cares is Usa club competition...
We could have gotten Tyler hero smh
They traded da pick they got for reddish in the Murray deal
Atlanta traded Luka for two All-Stars essentially since Atlanta flipped Cam Reddish for a 1st rd Draft Pick that was then flipped for Dejounte Murray. Trae has been a Two-time All-Star and an All-NBA selection and Dejounte has been an All-Star and is an All‐Defensive team selection. IT WAS LUKA FOR TRAE AND DEJOUNTE. W trade
for Atlanta. Excellent asset management by Travis Schlenck.
nope you are wrong. cam reddish trade didn't resulting for dejounte murray at all. cam reddish trade is for 2022 nyk protected first round pick and dejounte murray trade is for atlanta hawk 2025,2027 and charlote horner 2023 protected first round pick,2026 pick swap and danilo galianari. no nyk pick in there.
IT'S NOT A W TRADE AT ALL FOR ATLANTA and not excellent asset management at all by travis schlenck.
That’s a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the trade. Either was I’d take Luka alone over Trae and Murray
@@Darkrezta WRONG that Pick was top 18 protected by Charlotte and deferred to 2023. That's what San Antonio has right now. ATL used their OWN 2022 Pick to grab AJ Griffin out of Duke in the draft with the 16th pick overall. Like I said; W trade and EXCELLENT Asset management.
@@Not_Sal It's not mental gymnastics, it's literally what happened. The truth. Just because it's a Win for ATL doesn't mean it's a loss for Dallas either. No one has to "Justify" anything at this point. They both have the same amount of Accolades and neither has advanced farther than the Conference Finals in the playoffs to date. Any messaging pushing either player agenda is just biased propaganda to this point. It's TBD at best at this point in time. You Luka FanBoys can't even give props when it's due. It's sickening 🤢🤮
They traded away a A+++ player for a A- and B level players. On top of that, trae young is already trying to get out of there lol He’s had beef with John Collins and Nate McMillan, and already got another coach fired. Yeah hawks lost that trade but y’all will still keep telling yourselves it was an even trade haha
I would hate to have Trae Young on my team simply because I know his playstyle is never going to amount to anything.. Guys just simply are never going to enjoy playing with him and you automatically have the most predictable offense in the league because your star is incapable of playing without the ball. This not even mentioning his complete lack of defense. The Hawks are just stuck now since they won't get the crazy offer of like 4 1st round picks they would need to justify to move him...but they at least that Hawks ownership can keep milking his popularity with 12 year olds to keep selling merch 😂
Did this man just say if Luka didn't become an All NBA talent that the franchise would be ruined...?
They're not a playoff team without him.
More like legend and all-star…
Trae young should come to the mavs and fill in for JB. He's way better than Bronson
One was an undersized guard showing glimpses of "wow" against boys... The other was already "hall of fame" bound before ever playing a single NBA game. It was not a hard pick... The talking heads in the US tried to will this away, but Luka was inevitable he was and is the force that cannot be stopped.
Luka🔥💎💎💎💎💎
The whole argument is based off size 🤣, Luka has not done anything Trae hasn't 5 years into their careers
Damn kid, you're so clueless😂
If we’re being 100% honest i think Trae Young cud be an MVP as well. It’s always gonna be a Win-Win trade for me 🤷♂️