Shame on Indian corporate companies. I used to work for an Indian company and it was the worst decision I ever made. Was so stressful and my manager didn’t even care.
In fact this is not just limited to corporates. We should know that work cultures in some govt offices are similar unfortunately - toxic. Coming from a doctor.
Govt doesn't have the only work to collect tax from corporate and stay silent. They should create good environment for the employees by implementing few rules and regulations. Worst government policy.
It's not only overwork..there are so much politics in office just to entertain manager,senior ,head and rest of all employees..all of them harassing,mentally torturing, any single employee who is mostly either have no experience,or freshers ..all these happens to please either manager or senior manager or head to create intimidating environment,to satisfy their ego frustration etc and in most of the cases these managers,senior managers or head any one of them belong south india or state like karnataka,tamilnadu,Kerala,gujrat then all these have to have in company and those who don't want to participate in harassing,bulleying then will thrown out of the company..and all these things happen to satify the ego,frustration and create intimidating factor but they will call it we disciplining her or him so it's like 100 of PPL harassing bulleying any oner person who is fresher
My daughter also worked in EY. Faced similar situation . It was tough time for her and left the job within 6 months . Such big company ×exploit Young talented in the pretext of theor reputation paying less salary than the deserved. HR practice of this company need scrutiny
Nowadays HR Teams are the puppets of Top level management/owners. Nothing will work. Hard work never kill anyone but toxic work culture and unhealthy working hours and conditions may KILL. Work pressure, toxic work culture, nepotism and favouritism are in corporate environments/private companies is very common phenomenon and not a new thing. Education institutes/colleges should give training for STRESS MANAGEMENT and MENTAL HEALTH in their curriculum. Employees mental health as well as physical health are important for work life balance. 99% Employers are focusing on finance capital and they never focus on human capital because there is abundance of unemployed educated persons in India. There are abundance of labour laws and policies in India; but it is just like scare crow not in practice. Government’s existence also depends upon corporates. Government also depend upon private companies/players. Government should do safety measures for employee’s working hours, conditions and stringent in the enforcement of our existing labour laws.
Well said. I think every CORPORATE also needs to have proffessional Licenced Clinical Psychologists at their office for their staff - which has confidential SOP's. Depression / suicidal thoughts is a.repurcussion of many issues mixed with stress at work , which we all miss out on. To welcome, open discussions and accept overall Anxiety , stress , depression which to me is certainly a emulgation of personal and professional life - IS THE URGENT CALL OF THE HOUR & SHOULD BE MADE COMPULSORY IN ALL CORPORATES.
Prabir sir, You are absolutely right. Im so glad we discussing this issue as we have many victims in our society who couldn't speak up about what they dealing.
There is no doubt about the long working hours in the Indian IT company. I work in one of the four big IT service companies in India. When I joined a new project, I asked my manager about the working hour. His answer was "we work round the clock" for the client. If you are a senior and if you do not work for 15 hours per day then you are looked upon by others as enjoying life and not in the league of those who are slogging it out in the company.
The big audit firms, Deloitte and E&Y, have brought time-sheet culture in legal and accounting sector. Their staff are are instructed to log 12 to 14 hours a day while doing clients work so that these firms could bill large amounts. I had seen the poor and sorry looking freshly-passed-out charted accountants work from 10 in the morning to 10 at night, sometimes till midnight too. They are told by their bosses to stretch time and do shoddy work but bill the clients a fortune. A charted accountant who is well-breed will never work for Deloitte or E&Y.
Howz these big 4 in terms of other dept? So I'm from HR Statutory compliance background with exp in labour law. And I was getting interviewed by Deloitte. How's their HR, Legal department to work with?
I agree. Back in the days when i had the opportunity to join hotels i rejected it, back then they would pay really low and make one work in double shift.
Yes I had been to Absolute Barbecue recently and I was shocked to know that the employees had to come to the restaurant at 10am and had to work till 1pm for mere 14k per month and they are also asked to clap and smile on customer's celebration activities. People don't even smile back and not even thank them.
In India there is no work life balance. As I work in a Real Estate Industry employees are just treated like a slaves. Indian Government should take a strict action on it. If there is a toxic atmosphere and lods of stress so the productivity will be low. And our India can't grow. So this is my humble request to the Indian Government to please look into it.
Even after her death no change is happening as per one source, audit final report known sign off is always prepared after 12 midnight check previous sign off date and time of last one year of each 4S
My manager at one of my previous companies would expect employees to work 12-13 hours everyday. Leaving at 5-6 PM was seen as not meeting expectations. Great Relief that news channels are discussing issues like work culture at EY and private companies in general. High time
It's not only overwork..there are so much politics in office just to entertain manager,senior ,head and rest of all employees..all of them harassing,mentally torturing, any single employee who is mostly either have no experience,or freshers ..all these happens to please either manager or senior manager or head to create intimidating environment,to satisfy their ego frustration etc and in most of the cases these managers,senior managers or head any one of them belong south india or state like karnataka,tamilnadu,Kerala,gujrat then all these have to have in company and those who don't want to participate in harassing,bulleying then will thrown out of the company..and all these things happen to satify the ego,frustration and create intimidating factor but they will call it we disciplining her or him so it's like 100 of PPL harassing bulleying any oner person who is fresher..these kind politics cause loss to company comparing to those manager who dont do politics but their ego is so big that they will have to do ot to satisfy their ego n frustration even after loss
My daughter was working in a tier 1 law firm. She had to work 24/7 365 days a year. When she had Covid she was asked to work, in marriages, holidays. One day she called me from office saying that she had not eaten anything for 3 days not slept or gone back home. Yes these law firms pay well but have no humanity or decency. She was on the verge of collapse. We insisted she leave the job and go for a less paying job with better work life balance. For months this discussion went on with her saying that my career will be finished. This mad race and peer pressure and definition of success is so unnecessary. My heart goes out to her parents. Buy yes MNC, TIER One Law firms and Big 4 people become callous and inhuman
Working hrs are 15- 18 for whole 7 days due to agile any point of time deadline n priorities changes . One has to work min 8-10 hrs on weekends also otherwise Monday scrum cakk would be horrible.
I have gone through this kind of limitless work load in a Aluminium smelter in a gulf country for 7 years. I use to get nightmares. Both physical and mental torture. Finally i quit. -------- Ministry of labour must implement strict regulation on work load for each job. Employee union must demand job delivery time frame for each job in their company.
The IT field is badly in need of good labour unions. Then only employees would have the leverage to negotiate with billion dollar management. Unity is strength. Soon there'll be a huge disruption by AI and workers will be replaced. Without labour unions to negotiate techies would be brutally discarded
In fact this is not just limited to corporates. We should know that work cultures in some govt offices are similar unfortunately - toxic. Coming from a doctor. Just horrible toxicity that I personally (and others with me) have gone through too. Please don't limit the discussions to the corporates only, as this is a wider issue.
Provide training to managers to be effective and empathetic leaders instead of spreading and promoting toxicity at work. Make laws for notice periods no more than two weeks and stop demanding experience letters from the previous company at the time of hiring. Incorporate 360 degree feedback mechanisms, make skip level engagements easier and conduct regular surveys on middle Management's operating styles and behaviors.
A good leader is one is who has high EQ. A leader needs to be encouraging and lead by example. Work culture is key. Work smart not hard. Today we have so much of technology why do we have to work longer?
How employees work in such worst work condition. they just work they don't know their Rights and Responsibilities. Such conditions are even worst for whole Society. Government and other Expert has to work on this, so that everywhere work condition will get improved.
Hard work never kill anyone but toxic work culture and unhealthy working hours and conditions may KILL. Work pressure, toxic work culture, nepotism and favouritism are in corporate environments/private companies is very common phenomenon and not a new thing. Education institutes/colleges should give training for STRESS MANAGEMENT and MENTAL HEALTH in their curriculum. Employees mental health as well as physical health are important for work life balance. 99% Employers are focusing on finance capital and they never focus on human capital because there is abundance of unemployed educated persons in India. There are abundance of labour laws and policies in India; but it is just like scare crow not in practice. Government also depend upon private companies/players. Government should do safety measures for employee’s working hours, conditions and stringent in the enforcement of our existing labour laws.
want to comment on this. In India we assume that the employee or employer who work much more hours in Office i.e. govt. sector or private sector is more efficient than others. In private sector they harass employee like a slaves. We here understand that employee are not a machine but he/she is human being. He/she require time for family, friends and relatives which cause reduces his/her tension and result in upliftment in his/her performance at work place. But unfortunately our labour laws are only on papers they are not strictly implement like Europe countries or developed western countries which result in employee suicide. I hope the unfortunate incident cause for govt. intervention on labour policy. This is my opinion please comment on this.
Absolutely 💯 Leadership are old bags New fresh minds need to be understood Old bags are used to low self respect, less empathetic & slavery attitude New fresh minds are confident & more empathetic & transparent. A complete redo is required in the approach & mindset
I doesn't matter for corporate companies as it's just a resource that has gone.. I left India permanently for one of the basic reasons being work life balance and pay.. I've worked for different MNC's including big one's like JP Morgan which was better compared to the other one's. This debate and media hype is only for media houses to genera TRP. Even their work life balance will be trash.
Yes its true all corporate company dont follow company act police of working 8 hours , over work , politics in organisations, stupid time wast meetings everyday .The Government of India should take action on this situation if not the youth and generation may face more health problems that may damage to the Nation
their bosses who give them more work never had to do this much work to get where they are but they have these unrealistic expectations on their subordinates.
It happens for many corporate companies and for even private school teachers. Only 5 days a week should be there and it should be only 5*8 hrs of work schedule every day with no pressure on work. In corporate companies mostly it's because of the project/manager, employees work under stress and lack work life balance
According to Anna's father, the manager is a cricket fan and he schedule the work as per T20 match schedule. The poor new comers have no choice but to adjust themselves to manager's whims and fancies.
When will the government enforse employment lows in it companies Decent working hours Decent exit strategies Decent working life balance Decent notice period
Pity,the young girl becomes the fodder for the greed of MNcs who are out to see their stocks and holders flourish at 5he expense of these hapless youth
IT and bpo sector are directly linked to usa market.The govt sector r paid very high salary They pay exorbitant package . This gave purchase parity powerand put pressure on other sector to pay ,but top management gets and put pressure on newcomer and junior staff
My question for the news channels debating on this issue is... Do you really care about the stress levels of your anchors, reporters and newsreaders? Please give an honest answer.
There is even bias towards Indians and other places where these companies have offices in other countries related to work life balance and corporates wont acknowledge it.
Everyone knows what’s happening in corporate and everyone wants to turn a blind eye bcoz at the end corporates will say we are paying you , specifically in I.T sectors rotational shifts and harassment’s by managers in between work like surprise quiz and humiliating employees in teams meeting my son suffered a lot we told him to quit but since he had a loan he stayed.
Corporates don't care for their employees. Employees are just ids doing office work. Corporaates are only concerned of their shareholders and investors.
The day they started discussing quarterly results from annual results. Things have become too stressful.. Everything is about numbers now. No plans for sustainability and growth.. The startup culture only made it worse.. Startup ceo's have openly called for the sacrifice of personal life for growth.. I am hearing, people are facing divorce and health issues due to high stress in almost all fields. Many are running abroad for the same reason.
the guy with long hair had no idea to support whom..the problem is not the leaders its the top hierachy who sets the goal ..Recently they all started to be more centric on budjeting and cost saving and downsizing work force,to accomadate these changes the leaders needs to utilize more than 110 percentage from employees with lesser work force which matters the most..Even if the leaders change as long as the wrong process is defined things will be the same
The problem is not just about gen z or gen x people it's about inhuman expectations , when does an expectations become inhuman?? When the management without seeing the person efforts expects him to generate revenue and it happened in a handful companies in the 70s and in the 80s again a handful , it was quite good probably in the 90s when India opened its economy like bpos etc and what have you but then the start up culture came up in the country and then all of sudden those few managers from few companies started spreading to multiple companies, this practice seems normal that they are okay to over burden or fire people under 2 months or three months, look at the attrition rate in some IT companies or start ups or bpos and look at how low they are paid, and the turnover doesn't explain how the salaries of the people who are helping building the company are low, the same country has the third largest billionaires in terms of number but how come the employees working under them are depressed and are getting fired for un realistic goals, and I do have proof to back up this statement. There is a problem with what india did and that was to think it's okay to do what Japan did and that was to just keep on working like a donkey.
@@roshenphilip7554 promoter driven organisation are all Baniyas.. Baniyas are known to be Lala in truest sense.. so in this country work life balance is alien terms as Lalas don’t understand such words
On a human level and spiritual level we have to consciously ensure that we do not harass our juniors because karma will not leave you trust me , you are spoiling your saturn which is related to labour and mass works who work below you , so be careful before mis treating someone who is working for you , it will come to bite you very bad in life.
No human being worth his capacity can work for more than 8 hours every day. It is foolish on the part of the companies to expect this folly. Human beings are humans not robots. Even robots fail if their battery is drained they have to be recharged. Roti, Kapda aur Makan! This is our Indian motto
The question to be raised is why indian employees are exploited to the hilt and the new joinees are exploited even more. Even the pay disparity is far too much for india compared to the west. You won't find the western employees slogging like the indians alongwith the pay disparity let alone being rewarded meagerly for cost-effective ideas put worth, smart time management at work, innovative ideas, so on and so forth. Government employees compare their salary to the corporate ones. Are they slogging out like the corporate that raise in basic, da, hra and promotions and benefits they want. They want to have big cars without even sweating it out. All they can see is corporates are paid well. Tell them to work their ass out day in and out, then they will know that nothing comes free in life and not to forget as i had mentioned earlier indians are made to work their shit out but paid peanuts compared to their western counterparts. This has been existing since several years ago which can be termed as 'Modern Slavery ' and has only gotten worser and worser over the coming years. It's high time for drastic change which was already overdue long back. Had our labour ministry been employee-centric just like the western counterparts, today our country could have been proud of their happy employees thereby setting the role model. I totally agree with what Mr. Prabir Jha.
If the boss has relevant experience and realistic expectations from subordinates, and subordinates also has also required and relevant/ qualifications, skills and experience , then work could be a pleassure. Inadequate experience of the Executives and Managers who agrees to / given even a very realistic schedules are also bound to experience tension / pressure which cannot be put under too much work or environment. When wrong persons are struggling to do any work , that's hard work and tension is bound ti happen as a main product irrespective of the schedule. Right person is doing work under a wrong person same thing happens. These are the causes of any Occupational Health Hazard like this. Analyse and see for yourselves.
Corporate emoloyees is always using earphone for discussion with officers, and management the employees will loose there ear and they will become deaf at earliest, the management should arrange alternative methods for discussion pl.
Anna Sebastian did not die due to overwork. She died due to a heart attack as per her death certificate. She had gone to a cardiologist 2 weeks prior to death with severe chest pain. 1 normal ECG does not rule out a heart attack. He should have admitted the patient and done cardiac enzymes,an echocardiogram ,a stress ECG and a CT coronary angiogram. Without doing any of these things he sent her home on antacids. He is guilty of medical negligence. Us Indians can have a heart attack as young as 25 years. She could have been one of those rare ones. There are other cardiac conditions which can cause sudden death in a young adult
Corporate greed is the root cause of everything . Corporates are thinking only about their Top End ,Year on Year revenue growth , no social commitments. They're exploiting the unemployment situation. Moreover labour laws in India are in favour of corporates only. People like Narayana Moorthy advocating to work 70 hours in a week. Buisness are running for profit , but it must be with little bit human touch .
Managers assign workloads that force subordinates to work at least 14 hours a day, far exceeding the global standard of 8 hours. As a result, 58% of their day is consumed, often justified by high salaries, perks, and benefits. Meanwhile, the government takes a hefty 48% of their earnings through income tax and GST. “Struck by lightning and bitten by a cobra” Employees are essentially trapped in a cycle of overwork and exploitation. Aren't they new age Gen Z slaves? **CRAGGING** Corporate Ragging -refers to the practice of seniors torturing freshers under the guise of development to meet their own targets and gain benefits.
Watching all this having clocked an average 12hrs per day for the entire year 🙄... Mathew said it well. Gen X need to change. Unfortunately they are not. They are just running after to increase the revenue and giving no importance to the work life balance. And there's this HR team who sends fancy colorful work life balance mails at Org level and it just ends there.
QGood discussion. Bug nothing is going go change. As long as supply pipeline of talent is plentiful and we show disdain and contempt for work life balance, sheer competitive forces and need for speed will drag the front linr brain worker into the spiral of burn out. Whike we blindly copy the West on performance ratings and bell curve, time to pause and learn from them on how to treat people with respect.
I am so happy we are now discussing these things as a society
Because there is no spicy TRP worthy story so this is finding some airtime on these channels. All will forget in few days. Harsh reality
@@bikramjitpurkayastha4861
This will happen for next 4 to 6 weeks. After that everyone will forget
We can only discuss such things however there won't be any action taken to improve work life balance.
Very heartening indeed
Shame on Indian corporate companies. I used to work for an Indian company and it was the worst decision I ever made. Was so stressful and my manager didn’t even care.
In fact this is not just limited to corporates. We should know that work cultures in some govt offices are similar unfortunately - toxic. Coming from a doctor.
Govt doesn't have the only work to collect tax from corporate and stay silent. They should create good environment for the employees by implementing few rules and regulations. Worst government policy.
@@vinitagurjar371Govt Employees are lazy...always takes Fat money and while coming on cultural become friends of private employee
Corporate have become greedy so obviously employees has to take more stress 😔
Corporates are always greedy. Employees should show the common sense to unite and form multiple employees unions
It's not only overwork..there are so much politics in office just to entertain manager,senior ,head and rest of all employees..all of them harassing,mentally torturing, any single employee who is mostly either have no experience,or freshers ..all these happens to please either manager or senior manager or head to create intimidating environment,to satisfy their ego frustration etc and in most of the cases these managers,senior managers or head any one of them belong south india or state like karnataka,tamilnadu,Kerala,gujrat then all these have to have in company and those who don't want to participate in harassing,bulleying then will thrown out of the company..and all these things happen to satify the ego,frustration and create intimidating factor but they will call it we disciplining her or him so it's like 100 of PPL harassing bulleying any oner person who is fresher
So.true
@@tensionfree494 Dont work, stay at home
@@ATANKINAMAZI and you go and lick the manager’s shoe and ass
My daughter also worked in EY. Faced similar situation . It was tough time for her and left the job within 6 months . Such big company ×exploit Young talented in the pretext of theor reputation paying less salary than the deserved.
HR practice of this company need scrutiny
Nowadays HR Teams are the puppets of Top level management/owners. Nothing will work. Hard work never kill anyone but toxic work culture and unhealthy working hours and conditions may KILL. Work pressure, toxic work culture, nepotism and favouritism are in corporate environments/private companies is very common phenomenon and not a new thing. Education institutes/colleges should give training for STRESS MANAGEMENT and MENTAL HEALTH in their curriculum. Employees mental health as well as physical health are important for work life balance. 99% Employers are focusing on finance capital and they never focus on human capital because there is abundance of unemployed educated persons in India. There are abundance of labour laws and policies in India; but it is just like scare crow not in practice. Government’s existence also depends upon corporates. Government also depend upon private companies/players. Government should do safety measures for employee’s working hours, conditions and stringent in the enforcement of our existing labour laws.
Five days a week have to be made compulsory in all the private sectors including educational institutions. Govt should impose strict norms on this
Well said. I think every CORPORATE also needs to have proffessional Licenced Clinical Psychologists at their office for their staff - which has confidential SOP's.
Depression / suicidal thoughts is a.repurcussion of many issues mixed with stress at work , which we all miss out on. To welcome, open discussions and accept overall Anxiety , stress , depression which to me is certainly a emulgation of personal and professional life - IS THE URGENT CALL OF THE HOUR & SHOULD BE MADE COMPULSORY IN ALL CORPORATES.
@@shwetamishra9128 Counsellors just wear a mask. They are HR guys who want to weed out people who can turn out to be a liability.
Its happening in almost all the companies in india
Prabir sir, You are absolutely right. Im so glad we discussing this issue as we have many victims in our society who couldn't speak up about what they dealing.
Where is our country heading to… employees under stress at workplace or getting killed. On this Mr Murthy says 70hrs work hours for young generation 😢
One of the best discussions related to work culture
There is no doubt about the long working hours in the Indian IT company. I work in one of the four big IT service companies in India. When I joined a new project, I asked my manager about the working hour. His answer was "we work round the clock" for the client. If you are a senior and if you do not work for 15 hours per day then you are looked upon by others as enjoying life and not in the league of those who are slogging it out in the company.
The big audit firms, Deloitte and E&Y, have brought time-sheet culture in legal and accounting sector. Their staff are are instructed to log 12 to 14 hours a day while doing clients work so that these firms could bill large amounts. I had seen the poor and sorry looking freshly-passed-out charted accountants work from 10 in the morning to 10 at night, sometimes till midnight too. They are told by their bosses to stretch time and do shoddy work but bill the clients a fortune. A charted accountant who is well-breed will never work for Deloitte or E&Y.
Howz these big 4 in terms of other dept? So I'm from HR Statutory compliance background with exp in labour law. And I was getting interviewed by Deloitte. How's their HR, Legal department to work with?
Please include murthy sir on this topic debate
@@SureshKumar-zy8uq That person is No SIR.
Work place in Hotel industry is very bad condition 12 to 14,15 hours working.
Someone should check this.
I agree. Back in the days when i had the opportunity to join hotels i rejected it, back then they would pay really low and make one work in double shift.
Yes I had been to Absolute Barbecue recently and I was shocked to know that the employees had to come to the restaurant at 10am and had to work till 1pm for mere 14k per month and they are also asked to clap and smile on customer's celebration activities. People don't even smile back and not even thank them.
It starts right from the top, politicians want funds taxes. Companies end up paying . It is no different from the ‘Boeing issues’ or plane crash .
In India there is no work life balance. As I work in a Real Estate Industry employees are just treated like a slaves. Indian Government should take a strict action on it. If there is a toxic atmosphere and lods of stress so the productivity will be low. And our India can't grow. So this is my humble request to the Indian Government to please look into it.
Why Dr Thomas is happy and smiling? This is a serious issue and must be discussed in seriousness.
It's probably his resting face
Usually most of not all trainers have such a resting face!
I think he was just too happy to be on TV, probably a big achievement for him, hence he was not able to control his happiness!
Even after her death no change is happening as per one source, audit final report known sign off is always prepared after 12 midnight check previous sign off date and time of last one year of each 4S
My manager at one of my previous companies would expect employees to work 12-13 hours everyday. Leaving at 5-6 PM was seen as not meeting expectations. Great Relief that news channels are discussing issues like work culture at EY and private companies in general. High time
Overworked and underpaid
definitely not underpaid. do you know the salary of EY ?
@@subramanyamshankar1767 its good for mid to high level professionals but low level employees are paid peanuts
It's not only overwork..there are so much politics in office just to entertain manager,senior ,head and rest of all employees..all of them harassing,mentally torturing, any single employee who is mostly either have no experience,or freshers ..all these happens to please either manager or senior manager or head to create intimidating environment,to satisfy their ego frustration etc and in most of the cases these managers,senior managers or head any one of them belong south india or state like karnataka,tamilnadu,Kerala,gujrat then all these have to have in company and those who don't want to participate in harassing,bulleying then will thrown out of the company..and all these things happen to satify the ego,frustration and create intimidating factor but they will call it we disciplining her or him so it's like 100 of PPL harassing bulleying any oner person who is fresher..these kind politics cause loss to company comparing to those manager who dont do politics but their ego is so big that they will have to do ot to satisfy their ego n frustration even after loss
Too common for BPO companies across Bengaluru
My daughter was working in a tier 1 law firm.
She had to work 24/7 365 days a year. When she had Covid she was asked to work, in marriages, holidays.
One day she called me from office saying that she had not eaten anything for 3 days not slept or gone back home.
Yes these law firms pay well but have no humanity or decency.
She was on the verge of collapse.
We insisted she leave the job and go for a less paying job with better work life balance.
For months this discussion went on with her saying that my career will be finished.
This mad race and peer pressure and definition of success is so unnecessary.
My heart goes out to her parents.
Buy yes MNC, TIER One Law firms and Big 4 people become callous and inhuman
your daughter is stupid to tolerate this
Good coverage Rajdeep..EY did v v bad management
Working hrs are 15- 18 for whole 7 days due to agile any point of time deadline n priorities changes . One has to work min 8-10 hrs on weekends also otherwise Monday scrum cakk would be horrible.
Agree EY should pay 25 crore compensation
I have gone through this kind of limitless work load in a Aluminium smelter in a gulf country for 7 years. I use to get nightmares. Both physical and mental torture. Finally i quit.
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Ministry of labour must implement strict regulation on work load for each job. Employee union must demand job delivery time frame for each job in their company.
The IT field is badly in need of good labour unions. Then only employees would have the leverage to negotiate with billion dollar management. Unity is strength. Soon there'll be a huge disruption by AI and workers will be replaced. Without labour unions to negotiate techies would be brutally discarded
It is toxic minds of people which gives more pressure than work.
EY should pay ₹25 crores compensation.
why only 25 crores? why not 100 crores ?
@@subramanyamshankar1767 okay ask
They should use the 100 crore to employ more people so the existing employees don't get so overworked and we prevent another Anna kind of death
In fact this is not just limited to corporates. We should know that work cultures in some govt offices are similar unfortunately - toxic. Coming from a doctor. Just horrible toxicity that I personally (and others with me) have gone through too. Please don't limit the discussions to the corporates only, as this is a wider issue.
Corporate employees are working like this since covid days but news channel were waiting for such tragedy to put this issues on limelight.
bring Mr. Murthy in the debate
Thanks Prabir, all the points are so correctly put!
a lot of pressure is increasing health risks and for this people are ditching stressful job
Provide training to managers to be effective and empathetic leaders instead of spreading and promoting toxicity at work. Make laws for notice periods no more than two weeks and stop demanding experience letters from the previous company at the time of hiring. Incorporate 360 degree feedback mechanisms, make skip level engagements easier and conduct regular surveys on middle Management's operating styles and behaviors.
A good leader is one is who has high EQ. A leader needs to be encouraging and lead by example. Work culture is key. Work smart not hard. Today we have so much of technology why do we have to work longer?
Very good Rajdeepji. Fantastic program
How employees work in such worst work condition. they just work they don't know their Rights and Responsibilities. Such conditions are even worst for whole Society. Government and other Expert has to work on this, so that everywhere work condition will get improved.
Great to Know why cant we have 5 Days a week work culture, why not recruit more so stress can be relived....
Stock price, margin, inflation, promotion, hike etc 😢😢😢😢😢 its a vicious circle
Hard work never kill anyone but toxic work culture and unhealthy working hours and conditions may KILL. Work pressure, toxic work culture, nepotism and favouritism are in corporate environments/private companies is very common phenomenon and not a new thing. Education institutes/colleges should give training for STRESS MANAGEMENT and MENTAL HEALTH in their curriculum. Employees mental health as well as physical health are important for work life balance. 99% Employers are focusing on finance capital and they never focus on human capital because there is abundance of unemployed educated persons in India. There are abundance of labour laws and policies in India; but it is just like scare crow not in practice. Government also depend upon private companies/players. Government should do safety measures for employee’s working hours, conditions and stringent in the enforcement of our existing labour laws.
want to comment on this.
In India we assume that the employee or employer who work much more hours in Office i.e. govt. sector or private sector is more efficient than others. In private sector they harass employee like a slaves. We here
understand that employee are not a machine but he/she is human being. He/she require time for family, friends and relatives which cause reduces his/her tension and result in upliftment in his/her performance at work place.
But unfortunately our labour laws are only on papers they are not strictly implement like Europe countries or developed western countries which result in employee suicide.
I hope the unfortunate incident cause for govt. intervention on labour policy.
This is my opinion please comment on this.
One of the biggest issues of indian corporates is 90 days notice period they want immediate joiners but they themselves have 90 days notice
Absolutely 💯
Leadership are old bags
New fresh minds need to be understood
Old bags are used to low self respect, less empathetic & slavery attitude
New fresh minds are confident & more empathetic & transparent.
A complete redo is required in the approach & mindset
Pls invite Bhavish Agrawal and Narayan Murthy for a debate
Add Modi and Yogi too.
health is first and then work not the reverse
I doesn't matter for corporate companies as it's just a resource that has gone.. I left India permanently for one of the basic reasons being work life balance and pay.. I've worked for different MNC's including big one's like JP Morgan which was better compared to the other one's. This debate and media hype is only for media houses to genera TRP. Even their work life balance will be trash.
Yes its true all corporate company dont follow company act police of working 8 hours , over work , politics in organisations, stupid time wast meetings everyday .The Government of India should take action on this situation if not the youth and generation may face more health problems that may damage to the Nation
I'm thankful for my decision to left such company. Otherwise, This discussion would have been about me.
people are facing a lot of work pressure from it industry, banking industry and more bigger pie from startups
their bosses who give them more work never had to do this much work to get where they are but they have these unrealistic expectations on their subordinates.
It happens for many corporate companies and for even private school teachers. Only 5 days a week should be there and it should be only 5*8 hrs of work schedule every day with no pressure on work. In corporate companies mostly it's because of the project/manager, employees work under stress and lack work life balance
According to Anna's father, the manager is a cricket fan and he schedule the work as per T20 match schedule. The poor new comers have no choice but to adjust themselves to manager's whims and fancies.
When will the government enforse employment lows in it companies
Decent working hours
Decent exit strategies
Decent working life balance
Decent notice period
Anyone from good family background and standard upbringing will never behave toxic to their colleagues
This hell everyone are going through this in whole India 😢
Strong labour laws is the need of the hour.
The MNC companies should appointments more people so that they can reduce unemployment problems.
Never they will do so, this bl**dy Corporate only looks for profit 📈 with miminum human resources ,so could maximize their profit.
In addition, vultures like Narayanamurthy advocates 16 hours work. Useless fellow.
Reminds of 70 hrs work per week line
I think her manager is Narayan murthy pro max
Pity,the young girl becomes the fodder for the greed of MNcs who are out to see their stocks and holders flourish at 5he expense of these hapless youth
IT and bpo sector are directly linked to usa market.The govt sector r paid very high salary They pay exorbitant package .
This gave purchase parity powerand put pressure on other sector to pay ,but top management gets and put pressure on newcomer and junior staff
My question for the news channels debating on this issue is... Do you really care about the stress levels of your anchors, reporters and newsreaders? Please give an honest answer.
There is even bias towards Indians and other places where these companies have offices in other countries related to work life balance and corporates wont acknowledge it.
Everyone knows what’s happening in corporate and everyone wants to turn a blind eye bcoz at the end corporates will say we are paying you , specifically in I.T sectors rotational shifts and harassment’s by managers in between work like surprise quiz and humiliating employees in teams meeting my son suffered a lot we told him to quit but since he had a loan he stayed.
Very well said, Mr Jha.
Corporate in others ward dictator, they do,what they want
Corporates don't care for their employees. Employees are just ids doing office work. Corporaates are only concerned of their shareholders and investors.
There is no professional by indian managers and no strict labour rule
The day they started discussing quarterly results from annual results. Things have become too stressful.. Everything is about numbers now. No plans for sustainability and growth.. The startup culture only made it worse.. Startup ceo's have openly called for the sacrifice of personal life for growth.. I am hearing, people are facing divorce and health issues due to high stress in almost all fields. Many are running abroad for the same reason.
All construction company same problem
the guy with long hair had no idea to support whom..the problem is not the leaders its the top hierachy who sets the goal ..Recently they all started to be more centric on budjeting and cost saving and downsizing work force,to accomadate these changes the leaders needs to utilize more than 110 percentage from employees with lesser work force which matters the most..Even if the leaders change as long as the wrong process is defined things will be the same
The problem is not just about gen z or gen x people it's about inhuman expectations , when does an expectations become inhuman?? When the management without seeing the person efforts expects him to generate revenue and it happened in a handful companies in the 70s and in the 80s again a handful , it was quite good probably in the 90s when India opened its economy like bpos etc and what have you but then the start up culture came up in the country and then all of sudden those few managers from few companies started spreading to multiple companies, this practice seems normal that they are okay to over burden or fire people under 2 months or three months, look at the attrition rate in some IT companies or start ups or bpos and look at how low they are paid, and the turnover doesn't explain how the salaries of the people who are helping building the company are low, the same country has the third largest billionaires in terms of number but how come the employees working under them are depressed and are getting fired for un realistic goals, and I do have proof to back up this statement. There is a problem with what india did and that was to think it's okay to do what Japan did and that was to just keep on working like a donkey.
@@roshenphilip7554 promoter driven organisation are all Baniyas.. Baniyas are known to be Lala in truest sense.. so in this country work life balance is alien terms as Lalas don’t understand such words
Prabhir Jha hits the bull's eye!
Ruthless corporate culture not empathetic towards employees health and always insisting on over burden work mounting on employees heads
On a human level and spiritual level we have to consciously ensure that we do not harass our juniors because karma will not leave you trust me , you are spoiling your saturn which is related to labour and mass works who work below you , so be careful before mis treating someone who is working for you , it will come to bite you very bad in life.
No human being worth his capacity can work for more than 8 hours every day. It is foolish on the part of the companies to expect this folly. Human beings are humans not robots. Even robots fail if their battery is drained they have to be recharged. Roti, Kapda aur Makan! This is our Indian motto
The question to be raised is why indian employees are exploited to the hilt and the new joinees are exploited even more. Even the pay disparity is far too much for india compared to the west. You won't find the western employees slogging like the indians alongwith the pay disparity let alone being rewarded meagerly for cost-effective ideas put worth, smart time management at work, innovative ideas, so on and so forth.
Government employees compare their salary to the corporate ones. Are they slogging out like the corporate that raise in basic, da, hra and promotions and benefits they want. They want to have big cars without even sweating it out. All they can see is corporates are paid well. Tell them to work their ass out day in and out, then they will know that nothing comes free in life and not to forget as i had mentioned earlier indians are made to work their shit out but paid peanuts compared to their western counterparts. This has been existing since several years ago which can be termed as 'Modern Slavery ' and has only gotten worser and worser over the coming years. It's high time for drastic change which was already overdue long back. Had our labour ministry been employee-centric just like the western counterparts, today our country could have been proud of their happy employees thereby setting the role model.
I totally agree with what Mr. Prabir Jha.
If the boss has relevant experience and realistic expectations from subordinates, and subordinates also has also required and relevant/ qualifications, skills and experience , then work could be a pleassure. Inadequate experience of the Executives and Managers who agrees to / given even a very realistic schedules are also bound to experience tension / pressure which cannot be put under too much work or environment. When wrong persons are struggling to do any work , that's hard work and tension is bound ti happen as a main product irrespective of the schedule. Right person is doing work under a wrong person same thing happens. These are the causes of any Occupational Health Hazard like this. Analyse and see for yourselves.
Corporate emoloyees is always using earphone for discussion with officers, and management the employees will loose there ear and they will become deaf at earliest, the management should arrange alternative methods for discussion pl.
Anna Sebastian did not die due to overwork. She died due to a heart attack as per her death certificate. She had gone to a cardiologist 2 weeks prior to death with severe chest pain. 1 normal ECG does not rule out a heart attack. He should have admitted the patient and done cardiac enzymes,an echocardiogram ,a stress ECG and a CT coronary angiogram. Without doing any of these things he sent her home on antacids. He is guilty of medical negligence. Us Indians can have a heart attack as young as 25 years. She could have been one of those rare ones. There are other cardiac conditions which can cause sudden death in a young adult
she most likely died due to palm oil
Why don't you question government policy of 48.5 hrs per week
Corporate greed is increasing by the day.....Stringent measures to be taken....raids to be carried out to check working after office hours......
Where is the government? They created all these situations and they are totally responsible for their worst policy.
Corporate greed is the root cause of everything . Corporates are thinking only about their Top End ,Year on Year revenue growth , no social commitments. They're exploiting the unemployment situation. Moreover labour laws in India are in favour of corporates only. People like Narayana Moorthy advocating to work 70 hours in a week. Buisness are running for profit , but it must be with little bit human touch .
EY ---- Ernst and Young a kind of company earn and die young... its worst not only in work environment also interview process
All about Lead/Boss
Indore best corporate city
Managers assign workloads that force subordinates to work at least 14 hours a day, far exceeding the global standard of 8 hours. As a result, 58% of their day is consumed, often justified by high salaries, perks, and benefits. Meanwhile, the government takes a hefty 48% of their earnings through income tax and GST.
“Struck by lightning and bitten by a cobra”
Employees are essentially trapped in a cycle of overwork and exploitation. Aren't they new age Gen Z slaves?
**CRAGGING** Corporate Ragging -refers to the practice of seniors torturing freshers under the guise of development to meet their own targets and gain benefits.
work culture is poor in it industry, banking industry whether private or government and the biggest hit is startups
Even clg students dont gt enough sleep ask every hackathon winners students who get high paid packages success=overwork.
19k views,288 likes for this serious issue..
All companies are like this only as there is no more rights for employee
Married men find getting back home more stressful
hahahahahahaha
People like Narayan Muthu must b jailed first for their cheap remarks of 70hrs working hrs ,then how west has 36hrs weekly are they not developed
SHAMELESS EY!!!!
Watching all this having clocked an average 12hrs per day for the entire year 🙄... Mathew said it well. Gen X need to change. Unfortunately they are not. They are just running after to increase the revenue and giving no importance to the work life balance.
And there's this HR team who sends fancy colorful work life balance mails at Org level and it just ends there.
QGood discussion. Bug nothing is going go change. As long as supply pipeline of talent is plentiful and we show disdain and contempt for work life balance, sheer competitive forces and need for speed will drag the front linr brain worker into the spiral of burn out. Whike we blindly copy the West on performance ratings and bell curve, time to pause and learn from them on how to treat people with respect.