+HappyHalfman For some reason, Japanese senses of humour always really get me. They're just really naturally funny in this almost "dull" very plain kind of way. Subtle? That whole interview was really cute
+warnado kasper Definitely agree, but its a damn shame people like to discriminate even in their own Melee community to "The Doc Kids" when part of the reason of the Doc was to GET more people into the scene and understand and appreciate the history. It happens a bunch when a community is small [Take Xenoblade Chronicles for example] and gets sudden big exposure and brings a lot more fans [Smash 4 and partly arguable Chugaa's LP] that we get the "Hipster oldie fans" trying to maintain their little circle.
+Alexander Michaels I'd call mango a drunken douche based off the doc....and some tourneys....and some interviews....and scar and toph stories.....and his own steam, lol
+Bowserslave I get why people like to alienate the doc kids, as even though it's arguably one of the best documentaries I've ever seen, it had a lot of inaccuracies such as the PC, Kdj, and M2K triangle, it wasn't that one sided. And it also for some reason excluded Neo, one of the most fearsome players regarded by many veterans. However it is still a nice summarization of Melee's history . But all that "I'm really feeling it" crap is cancer, Xenoblade was a great, serious rpg that had Shulk, a protagonist that had a lot of character until exposure from Smash poisoned his reputation into a memed whore instead of a time-controlling god.(sorry spoilers but oh well)
Bombsoldier: "I thought you were a pretty strong opponent." Captain Jack: "What did you think of Masashi?" Bombsoldier: "He was incredibly quick." Captain Jack: "Korius is asking as well, what did you think of him?" Bombsoldier: "He was easy."
Hi friends. I was the one who translated the interviews! It's been a long time since then, and this was the first translation job I ever did, while I was still learning the language. That being said, there is a mistake at one point in my translation. I did talk with Prog about adjusting the subtitles a few years ago when I first noticed the error, but I was told it would be too difficult to change. Anyway, it only just occurred to me to maybe write something in the comments about it, so here it is: At 14:36, Captain Jack asks Bombsoldier "What about Douyara?", to which bombsoldier replies "威圧感（いあつかん）がある". This translates to "He's intimidating." or "I'm intimidated by him." However, the phrase I heard was "いい奴（やつ）感（かん）がある", which I know now is incorrect phrasing and would never be used. I double checked it with a friend at the time, and they agreed that it was correct so it ended up being the one that was translated. It hurts to know I was wrong but I figure it's better to be up front about it than ignore it! So glad I was able to work on this and bring some of these older interviews outside Japan!
Cool! You seem to really care about your craft if you came back from all these years Is there any other public notable translations you've worked on since then?
Ken had to take a lot of hate for Melee to progress it seems....the scapegoat for our revolution. Like he said, when M2K does chaingrabs it's super hype and everyone loves it nowadays. Ken will always be king of Smash to me.
Wow, Bombsoldier's Falco looks so much like Falcos do today! I've never heard of him, but it looks like he initially innovated Falco as a character! That's crazy.
goes to show the importance of tech sharing through different means prior to the age of the internet blowing up. It really lifts up the scene from even beyond the ocean and has very long term implications.
What happened to Ken's audio during his interview segments? He looks like he's on a lav mic but theres a BUNCH of echo and reverb like it's coming from a camera mic far away from him.
13:20 I was THOROUGHLY impressed when I saw that!! Innovation. TRUE thought and adapt among move use!! NOT just the use of learnt combos..... THAT is MELEE!!! THAT is a peak for competitive play.
This set was what first got me interested in competitive Melee, even though I only saw it years later (I first saw it roughly around the time Brawl came out). Legendary.
This is one Smash Bros documentary that I can definitely say is on par with/comparable with EastPointPicture's documentary. REALLY good work done here,Last Stock Legends. KEEP IT UP!!!!
Bullying is a local thing. When you go somewhere else than for example school and meet other people, it doesnt follow you. A big community hating you is worse in my opinion. Harder to get away from and more people involved. As Ken said, he was an American who represented America in Japan. Even if he won, he got hate from the very people he represented, while the opponent got praised. That's tough for a young guy.
most people don't care about school bullies but people do care about bullies in their favorite game cause u like it and u don't want to quit because of them
I like to think Bombsoldier went to college, got a real nice job, married a beautiful honey, had a couple of kids who now both play falco, and they agree to no lasers when they ditto
Love the increase in production value Melee's getting… great intro, great work. Increased expectations though, gotta de-interlace that shit and make sure your interview audio is on point. Keep it coming though, awesome job.
+SonicTriforceLego like able is entirely subjective homie. people also didn't like Ken during the time of the video. Aka that's your opinion and not a fact.
I'd argue the similarity is in the hate for their playstyles. Where chaingrabbing was viewed as lame in kens era, Hbox's playstyle is widely panned as lame as well
+Jigglypuff Tutorials HBox is waaaaay more disliked than Ken was. I was into the scene back then, and I'm into it now, and I can tell you that Ken never got half the hate Hbox gets.
Choosing to main Falco back in 2004 reasoning : "Bombsoldier got 2nd in a major tournament and look at that sick tech by him! I wanna learn that!" Choosing to main Peach in 2008 reasoning: "Armada won a tournament with peach! Let's main her!" Choosing to main Yoshi in 2014: "aMSa just bet M2K at Kings of Cali 4"
i cant believe how crazy good the editing and production value is to this doc XD keep it up!. also whats the song that played at the beginning for the intro?
Finally! I think most people watching this come from the Smash doc, so it's really good to see new footage and some re-edited older stuff. This was really well put together. I also like that you included some music credits towards the end, while playing snippets from the songs used. Though, the audio for the Ken interview could definitely have been better. Maybe it wasn't really possible to get a better location with less echo, but I think the overall mixing could have been improved. Either way, I look forward to whatever you put up next.
In the description they say that the audio recorder failed during Ken's interview, so they had to use backup audio that unfortunately sounded bad. But it's better than nothing haha.
Currently not much, most notable players like cap.jack is rarely been heard. The last time heard from the Japanese competitive scene was a smash 4 tournament where M2k and MK Leo attended.
if it wasn't the sick falco players throughout the generations... I wouldn't have enjoyed watching melee for so long. Bombsoldier PC Chris DaShizWiz PPMD WestBallz
Captainjack is incredibly charismatic. That bombsoldier interview seemed almost scripted.
+HappyHalfman For some reason, Japanese senses of humour always really get me. They're just really naturally funny in this almost "dull" very plain kind of way. Subtle? That whole interview was really cute
Timestamp?
I love learning about Smash's history. I wasn't around during the beginning so these video's are a great way to still learn about it all.
+warnado kasper Definitely agree, but its a damn shame people like to discriminate even in their own Melee community to "The Doc Kids" when part of the reason of the Doc was to GET more people into the scene and understand and appreciate the history.
It happens a bunch when a community is small [Take Xenoblade Chronicles for example] and gets sudden big exposure and brings a lot more fans [Smash 4 and partly arguable Chugaa's LP] that we get the "Hipster oldie fans" trying to maintain their little circle.
+Alexander Michaels I'd call mango a drunken douche based off the doc....and some tourneys....and some interviews....and scar and toph stories.....and his own steam, lol
+Bowserslave I get why people like to alienate the doc kids, as even though it's arguably one of the best documentaries I've ever seen, it had a lot of inaccuracies such as the PC, Kdj, and M2K triangle, it wasn't that one sided. And it also for some reason excluded Neo, one of the most fearsome players regarded by many veterans. However it is still a nice summarization of Melee's history . But all that "I'm really feeling it" crap is cancer, Xenoblade was a great, serious rpg that had Shulk, a protagonist that had a lot of character until exposure from Smash poisoned his reputation into a memed whore instead of a time-controlling god.(sorry spoilers but oh well)
Now ur old
Captain Jack seems like such a fucking cool dude
Bombsoldier: "I thought you were a pretty strong opponent." Captain Jack: "What did you think of Masashi?" Bombsoldier: "He was incredibly quick." Captain Jack: "Korius is asking as well, what did you think of him?" Bombsoldier: "He was easy."
itsbmeGaming Fucking savage
Gigachad.
Now people are sad when you drop a chain grab.
+Zac Clark Oh, I should've listened longer.
Hi friends. I was the one who translated the interviews! It's been a long time since then, and this was the first translation job I ever did, while I was still learning the language. That being said, there is a mistake at one point in my translation. I did talk with Prog about adjusting the subtitles a few years ago when I first noticed the error, but I was told it would be too difficult to change. Anyway, it only just occurred to me to maybe write something in the comments about it, so here it is:
At 14:36, Captain Jack asks Bombsoldier "What about Douyara?", to which bombsoldier replies "威圧感（いあつかん）がある". This translates to "He's intimidating." or "I'm intimidated by him." However, the phrase I heard was "いい奴（やつ）感（かん）がある", which I know now is incorrect phrasing and would never be used. I double checked it with a friend at the time, and they agreed that it was correct so it ended up being the one that was translated. It hurts to know I was wrong but I figure it's better to be up front about it than ignore it!
So glad I was able to work on this and bring some of these older interviews outside Japan!
Cool! You seem to really care about your craft if you came back from all these years
Is there any other public notable translations you've worked on since then?
Lol gotta love how passionate Isai was about 64
I see you in every video that is related to melee :p
what is this "was" shit?
adrian beltran beltran is
I wish I could think of a tag as cool as "bombsoldier"
Bombsoldier's tag is...bomb. *smirks*
Love learning about the history. Another amazing story guys. Well done.
God everytime I look at Toph all I think about is him saying quit quit bro quit
to me the Ken era will always be the best as a kid smash was so deep. Obviously now it's crazy but there's something about early smash.
the reason it feels like the best to you is because it was a mysterious era in the game's life, filled with significant and frequent innovation.
@@ninezerotwo1778 damn..
I love when ken says "monster" tippers it cracks me up for some reason
Ken had to take a lot of hate for Melee to progress it seems....the scapegoat for our revolution. Like he said, when M2K does chaingrabs it's super hype and everyone loves it nowadays. Ken will always be king of Smash to me.
"Falcos just used to stand around and spam lasers." Looks like Falco has come full circle thanks to Slippi.
Chaingrabs and pillar combos broke onto the scene here, really crazy
Immediately liking the video
+Lame-u Hakurei I almost forgot to do it. Thanks
this stuff happened when i was a baby. It’s fascinating to learn about this period
Wow, Bombsoldier's Falco looks so much like Falcos do today! I've never heard of him, but it looks like he initially innovated Falco as a character! That's crazy.
Yeah, we could even say that what marths and falcos are today, is thanks to Ken and Bombsoldier.
very cool video! With all the new spectators getting into melee, it's always nice to look back at times before armada, leffen, mango and such.
goes to show the importance of tech sharing through different means prior to the age of the internet blowing up. It really lifts up the scene from even beyond the ocean and has very long term implications.
It's the W that counts
- HBox
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this is amazing
Yup
What happened to Ken's audio during his interview segments? He looks like he's on a lav mic but theres a BUNCH of echo and reverb like it's coming from a camera mic far away from him.
they said the guy managing it messed up
wow this was super great. it is nice to see these sorts of videos about events that took place before I got into melee
That was seriously a good match. These legends have nothing more than my respect
13:20
I was THOROUGHLY impressed when I saw that!!
Innovation.
TRUE thought and adapt among move use!!
NOT just the use of learnt combos.....
THAT is MELEE!!!
THAT is a peak for competitive play.
thats great, all this footage and more in depth stuff on what happened back then, loving it! keep it coming!
These videos are so sick. Please keep up the good work!
This set was what first got me interested in competitive Melee, even though I only saw it years later (I first saw it roughly around the time Brawl came out). Legendary.
This channel deserves so many more subs
ayo here to get the algo rolling, classic melee stories are still great after so many years! Can't wait for season 2!!!!
This was great. Wish Ken's audio were a bit clearer, but overall great stuff.
I feel ya, it was the size and emptiness of the room that echoes his voice. its alright, I can hear him enough
This is one Smash Bros documentary that I can definitely say is on par with/comparable with EastPointPicture's documentary.
REALLY good work done here,Last Stock Legends.
KEEP IT UP!!!!
Haha, those interview questions with Bombsoldier were pretty hilarious. Obviously a charismatic guy.
Oh the nostalgia, these were very fun days, i used to play marth and my friend falco, we got pretty good thanks to these two, 11 years ago.
I never really thought about how rough it must be as a teenager to get hate from a whole lot of people all the time.
It's called bullying.. lol. Most people go through it.
Have you ever been a kid before?
Of course I've never been a kid. Don't be silly.
Bullying is a local thing. When you go somewhere else than for example school and meet other people, it doesnt follow you. A big community hating you is worse in my opinion. Harder to get away from and more people involved. As Ken said, he was an American who represented America in Japan. Even if he won, he got hate from the very people he represented, while the opponent got praised. That's tough for a young guy.
most people don't care about school bullies but people do care about bullies in their favorite game cause u like it and u don't want to quit because of them
really well done video. I think smash bros has greater stories than any other competitive video game that I know about.
In other words, Toph bodied Bombsoldier in 2011 lol
The intro for this is so sick
god imagine being that good at the game and then not playing ever again:((((
I like to think Bombsoldier went to college, got a real nice job, married a beautiful honey, had a couple of kids who now both play falco, and they agree to no lasers when they ditto
Kieran Crawford he played on aMSa’s stream recently. The kid’s still got it!
So this is the new smash documentary.
I wonder where we would all be if we didn't have these iconic players paving the way. Great video 10/10!
Love the increase in production value Melee's getting… great intro, great work. Increased expectations though, gotta de-interlace that shit and make sure your interview audio is on point. Keep it coming though, awesome job.
Lots of parallels between the Ken hate and Hbox hate
+SonicTriforceLego like able is entirely subjective homie. people also didn't like Ken during the time of the video. Aka that's your opinion and not a fact.
+SonicTriforceLego that has nothing to do with you saying hbox is unlikable as a fact
I'd argue the similarity is in the hate for their playstyles. Where chaingrabbing was viewed as lame in kens era, Hbox's playstyle is widely panned as lame as well
+Jigglypuff Tutorials HBox is waaaaay more disliked than Ken was. I was into the scene back then, and I'm into it now, and I can tell you that Ken never got half the hate Hbox gets.
Make a video on neutral game.
jesus christ the echo
Very good video.
Gotta love old school smash.
Oh man I got goosebumps when they introduced the new falco mains... PC Chris... then I heard Shiz... ohhhhhhh man. WHAT A SICK VIDEO!
The editing is really good
KEN SAID MONSTER TIPPERS Kreygasm
remember guys you can make a difference to
this man was 12 and he made such an impact with one set
Might be the best melee video
ending = godlike
Thank you for creating the meta of probably the coolest character in melee
8 years ago is insane...
Choosing to main Falco back in 2004 reasoning : "Bombsoldier got 2nd in a major tournament and look at that sick tech by him! I wanna learn that!"
Choosing to main Peach in 2008 reasoning: "Armada won a tournament with peach! Let's main her!"
Choosing to main Yoshi in 2014: "aMSa just bet M2K at Kings of Cali 4"
Chris Pham so much history man
and now he won a big house and many other tournaments
Toph sounds older than he does now lol
this was awesome, thanks!
Thank you BombSoldier, for the great marths you've inspired!
But bombsoldier was the falco
+LazyHippo101 oh, mistype...
I cant get over how amazing their logo is
"Ken, notable victories: [EVERYTHING]"
I'am very late for this but please do more of these
0:01 god damn why did they pick that room for an interview lmao, holy shit the echo
What up with that GameCube at 0:47? Light up controller ports? That's awesome. Where can I get one?
i cant believe how crazy good the editing and production value is to this doc XD keep it up!. also whats the song that played at the beginning for the intro?
what's the song at Kens interview at 6:30 ?
I've been trying to find that out as well :/
it's my track "petrichor" - you can get it at my bandcamp link in the description. it's on the EP "hex phase"
+neon shudder thanks! I'll definitely check it out! :D
Yang-Xiao np - enjoy!
SuperCube64 didn't tag for some reason, but see my other comment for details!
Finally!
I think most people watching this come from the Smash doc, so it's really good to see new footage and some re-edited older stuff. This was really well put together. I also like that you included some music credits towards the end, while playing snippets from the songs used.
Though, the audio for the Ken interview could definitely have been better. Maybe it wasn't really possible to get a better location with less echo, but I think the overall mixing could have been improved. Either way, I look forward to whatever you put up next.
In the description they say that the audio recorder failed during Ken's interview, so they had to use backup audio that unfortunately sounded bad. But it's better than nothing haha.
Imo coolest gamer tag ever
Good stuff. If I could make a request, more Isai stories and videos please.
Awesome! Do more, please!
can there please be a LSL for EVO 2007?
1:03 OMG all those Gamecube controllers...
Does anyone know the name of the intro song?
It's a song called Urban Strut by Forrest Gray: soundcloud.com/forrestgray/urban-strut
this. is. amazing!
this videos are so damn good
check out kens sick dad shoes
I can confirm. My dad owned those shoes.
well he is 30 or 31 already
Ayyy shoutouts to Dizzkidboogie playing the vid out with the Kyle Athayde Dance Party
Holy fuck I found another interesting melee series LETS GO!
Come back PP ;-;
Which player is being compared to Bombsoldier at 13:10?
+Kc Clark (Dr. Falchion) Zelgadis, you can find his combo video it's called "Shined blind" on youtube
Zelda123Zelda123 My main problem was that I had no idea how to spell the name. Thanks!
Does anyone know song that plays during the part that bombsoldier starts messing up Ken? I looked through the soundcloud artists but couldn't find it.
"petrichor" from my hex phase EP at neonshudder.bandcamp.com - there's a link in the description
Neon Shudder-Petrichor
Can anybody tell me what he says from 2:14 to 2:16?
Y'all need to do one about the S2J and Abate Match at BH5.
Bombsoldier needs to make a comeback and save Falco!
This set kinda revolutionized melee.
7:35 minutes into the video and i feel like an old man
this is a great story! I would love to hear the one about Armarda at Genesis 2009!
We need this.
Amazing piece of story...
Do Captain Jack or Bombsoldier still play any Smash game today? Is there kinda recent footage of them on TH-cam?
"Not fun for the spectators" *cough Hungrybox cough*
If anything this just goes to show that melee won't die because of a vocal minority whining.
***** 80%? nice anecdotal statistics
Who is the early technical Falco player that Toph is speaking about? Sounds like something like Zulgsidas.
Smash is fun
12:48 Japanese Dabuz
How's the Japanese melee scene doing nowadays? Don't really get to hear much of what comes outta there...
The only notable Japanese person that plays Melee right now is AMSA, a Yoshi main. Other than that, nothing too much Melee-wise.
They moved on to smash 4.
The only country that currently has a sizable melee scene is United States.
Currently not much, most notable players like cap.jack is rarely been heard. The last time heard from the Japanese competitive scene was a smash 4 tournament where M2k and MK Leo attended.
if it wasn't the sick falco players throughout the generations... I wouldn't have enjoyed watching melee for so long.
Bombsoldier
PC Chris
DaShizWiz
PPMD
WestBallz
Mango has a sick Falco too! Ginger also
ken v bombsoldier is what inspired me to main falco and marth
Does anyone know the name of the theme song, please I need it!
There's 3 links in the description. Too lazy to go back to check them though.
But which one is the intro song? And can I find it in TH-cam? Pls help!!!
18:20 They have a list of songs they used in the video.
@@darellarocho5729 m.soundcloud.com/forrestgray/urban-strut
@@renos654 Holy shit! Thank you so much!!!! I thought I'd never find the song!
Ken is still my favorite.
Isai's such a legend
cpt jack as well was a fucking beast
Amazing!