Such a great comparison, very detailed, Mikael. You know I love a bit of slow motion too! Great quality footage my friend, and a big thumbs up as usual! :-)
Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I remember I commented on that. The 12891 has the HBX Survivor chassis too, and it looks like the McGruff also has it. Haiboxing/HBX does cars for a lot of different brands. Like Redcat who just changes the HBX name, model name and the box so I suspect GPToys also got their chassis from HBX.
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback, Andrew! Yeah, I hope this video will come in handy for anyone interested in the similarities and differences. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate it.
Very good comparison video Mikael!! Very nice layout on both trucks just not a fan of screws holding on the wheels. Way more of a chance of getting stripped out then the normal nut attachment. Just taking a guess but you filmed this earlier in the year..Looks like it was late summer?
Thank you very much, Chris! Yeah, I’m not a fan of the wheel mounting on the Dune Thunder either. Generally, the Thruster has better details, like metal drive shafts, 2-speed transmission and most importantly metal wheel axles with standard 4mm nuts. And yes, found this footage from the summer. Somehow I had almost forgotten about it, but thought I would do something with it now ☺️ It was a nice summer.
Great comparison mate. I don't like how the wheels mount on the 12891, I also had one of the rear drive shafts break on it too. I personally find the 12889 to be superior to the 12891.
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, mine worked okay but I didn't run it too hard, and I really suspect it's a weak spot in the long run. What I most fear is the youngsters getting this one and stripping out the plastic wheel mount with that screw in no time when changing wheels and not back-threading. I personally also find the 12889 much more to my liking, with the standard 4mm wheel nuts, metal drive axles and wheel axles etc. And surprisingly the 2-speed trans worked fine for me. Never had a problem with it and the best thing is that they did the two different speeds very different (approx. 15 kph vs 25 kph). It really has a lot of torque with that low gear, even with the 390 motor. And if one wants the same speed as the 12891 it's just switching it on the transmitter. Great feature for such a low budget model.
Oh YES ! @5:42 to 6:01 is excellent excellent excellent editing. I love it. I must see if I can do that. What editor are you using? Big thumbs up for a great video my good friend : )
Ha ha, yeah, that was fun. I try to keep it to a minimum, these funny effects, but once in a while it is fun to throw in :-) I just switched to Adobe Premiere Elements 2018 lately. Quite cheap. Some good things. Some not so good. What are you using, Derek? and thanks, Derek!
I am using Wondershare Filmora. I also have Adobe Premiere 2015, but found it a bit complicated and don't use it. I will have to try it again and see if I can figure it out. : )
Ohh, never heard about that Wondershare Filmora. Well, if it works then continue. I haven't tried the Adobe Premiere. The Elements 2018 version is a low-budget-version. Some things irritate me a little about it. It's really bad at handling files with more than 60 fps (for slow motion etc.). The old free Windows Movie Maker from 2011 did it better than the Elements 2018 :-) I might change in the future again. But right now all my spare money goes into cars and the actual hobby itself (love making videos but I do not love spending other than time on it, definitely not money).
Thanks! Yeah for the price, with full ball bearings, oil filled diffs etc., they are pretty sweet! Ahh, it was warm yes but not anymore ☺️ This is some footage I almost had forgotten about, filmed this summer. Just editing it now.
congratulations thanks for the contribution! For you which is the car with the best electronics of the same range (I mean esc and servos) I know they are cheap and you cannot expect much from these cars, I think what matters is having fun! Which one will have such durable and cheap electronics? without many improvements? hbx12891 vs wl toys 12428 vs jjrc q39 vs feiyue fy03? 
VERY GOOD JOB, THANKS A LOT. I HAVE BOUGHT THE 12891 BUT AFTER A WEEK THE ESC RECEIVER L3020 RED LIGHT BLINKS AND THE CAR IS NOT MOVING. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A BINDING PROCEDURE...OR I NEED A NEW CAR? :-(
Thanks, Duccio. I'm afraid I had no trouble with mine, so I have no idea how to troubleshoot any problems. It's a real shame with yours. if there is no binding procedure in the manual, I wouldn't know what to do either. Maybe the ESC gave up. The problem with these is that the ESC and radio are in one unit. And the five wire servo. Makes it hard just to get a new ESC or a new receiver or servo. Try continue looking around a little on the net, to see if you stumble upon someone who experienced the same.
@@NordicRC - Ok ... I'm going to buy a new ESC and if it does not solve the problem I buy another ESC and Receiver separate ... I think the problem must be of this integrated ESC and Receiver! And when I accelerate the car or I give back at high speed the ESC turns off!
Thanks, Charlie! I had to google IFS (Independent Front Suspension?) - never heard that term before, but it's a handy short word :-) They behave extremely different although power/speed/acceleration is much the same with that same 390 motor and approcx the same weight. But yes, I like them both, although I think the Thruster, to the price, is a better bargain with the 2-speed trans and everything.
Such a great comparison, very detailed, Mikael. You know I love a bit of slow motion too! Great quality footage my friend, and a big thumbs up as usual! :-)
Thanks a lot, Mark! Yeah, love a bit of slo mo too here ☺️ Thanks a lot for watching and the support, Mark.
What a fantastic comparison. Thanks a lot for taking the time to put it together!
Thanks a lot for watching, Carlos. I love making these comparison videos 🙂
They look identical yet so different up close. Great comparison 🤘😎
Yeah, exactely. From a far it's hard to tell them apart, except for the spare wheel/wing. Thanks for watching, bro!
😃Nice overview, That HBX 12891looks like the same chassis as that mcgruff pick up truck I showed on my channel.
Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I remember I commented on that. The 12891 has the HBX Survivor chassis too, and it looks like the McGruff also has it. Haiboxing/HBX does cars for a lot of different brands. Like Redcat who just changes the HBX name, model name and the box so I suspect GPToys also got their chassis from HBX.
Such an informative video, thanks a lot! I ordered the Dune Thunder since I can´t seem to find a Thruster anywhere....
Thank you very much, Fannar. The Dune Thunder is a cool buggy/truck too!
Very nice comparison! Loved the slow motion. I think we will start seeing more RCs running of those 18650 cells too.
Thanks, Omar! Yeah, I bet you are right. Even Arrma has made one with them.
Nice video, there is understandability a lot of confusion and mix up about these two cars, this video clears up any confusion!
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback, Andrew! Yeah, I hope this video will come in handy for anyone interested in the similarities and differences. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate it.
Very good comparison video Mikael!! Very nice layout on both trucks just not a fan of screws holding on the wheels. Way more of a chance of getting stripped out then the normal nut attachment. Just taking a guess but you filmed this earlier in the year..Looks like it was late summer?
Thank you very much, Chris! Yeah, I’m not a fan of the wheel mounting on the Dune Thunder either. Generally, the Thruster has better details, like metal drive shafts, 2-speed transmission and most importantly metal wheel axles with standard 4mm nuts. And yes, found this footage from the summer. Somehow I had almost forgotten about it, but thought I would do something with it now ☺️ It was a nice summer.
Thank you for this super versus Video .greetz from germany/cologne
Thank you, Bat Man! Greetings from the North.
Great comparison mate. I don't like how the wheels mount on the 12891, I also had one of the rear drive shafts break on it too. I personally find the 12889 to be superior to the 12891.
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, mine worked okay but I didn't run it too hard, and I really suspect it's a weak spot in the long run. What I most fear is the youngsters getting this one and stripping out the plastic wheel mount with that screw in no time when changing wheels and not back-threading. I personally also find the 12889 much more to my liking, with the standard 4mm wheel nuts, metal drive axles and wheel axles etc. And surprisingly the 2-speed trans worked fine for me. Never had a problem with it and the best thing is that they did the two different speeds very different (approx. 15 kph vs 25 kph). It really has a lot of torque with that low gear, even with the 390 motor. And if one wants the same speed as the 12891 it's just switching it on the transmitter. Great feature for such a low budget model.
@@NordicRC I agree with this 😁😎
So, which is the winner?
No idea. Which ever one likes. They are so different (apart from tires/wheels and body).
@@NordicRC hm, I guess the 12889 thruster is better then 12891, cuz 12889 have 2 speed tranmission, soft suspension, In my opinion 12889 better
I really wish I could find a red one of either one of them
I think yellow, blue and green are the only options. Orange and black for the rock racer.
I've seen the red body on one of them on aliexpress but unfortunately they didn't have it in stock, just the picture
Oh YES ! @5:42 to 6:01 is excellent excellent excellent editing. I love it. I must see if I can do that. What editor are you using? Big thumbs up for a great video my good friend : )
Ha ha, yeah, that was fun. I try to keep it to a minimum, these funny effects, but once in a while it is fun to throw in :-) I just switched to Adobe Premiere Elements 2018 lately. Quite cheap. Some good things. Some not so good. What are you using, Derek? and thanks, Derek!
I am using Wondershare Filmora. I also have Adobe Premiere 2015, but found it a bit complicated and don't use it. I will have to try it again and see if I can figure it out. : )
Ohh, never heard about that Wondershare Filmora. Well, if it works then continue. I haven't tried the Adobe Premiere. The Elements 2018 version is a low-budget-version. Some things irritate me a little about it. It's really bad at handling files with more than 60 fps (for slow motion etc.). The old free Windows Movie Maker from 2011 did it better than the Elements 2018 :-) I might change in the future again. But right now all my spare money goes into cars and the actual hobby itself (love making videos but I do not love spending other than time on it, definitely not money).
Great video as usual pretty sweet trucks good price to still looks warm where you are jealous 👍👍💣
Thanks! Yeah for the price, with full ball bearings, oil filled diffs etc., they are pretty sweet! Ahh, it was warm yes but not anymore ☺️ This is some footage I almost had forgotten about, filmed this summer. Just editing it now.
congratulations thanks for the contribution! For you which is the car with the best electronics of the same range (I mean esc and servos) I know they are cheap and you cannot expect much from these cars, I think what matters is having fun! Which one will have such durable and cheap electronics? without many improvements? hbx12891 vs wl toys 12428 vs jjrc q39 vs feiyue fy03?

Thank you! I haven't really tested the JJRC and Feiyue, but I think WLToys and HBX are about the same quality.
Do you still recommend the Thruster today after all these years ?
It sure brought a smile on my face back then. I think it would again today ☺️
Cool video and comparison bro 👌👍👊
Thanks, bro!
VERY GOOD JOB, THANKS A LOT. I HAVE BOUGHT THE 12891 BUT AFTER A WEEK THE ESC RECEIVER L3020 RED LIGHT BLINKS AND THE CAR IS NOT MOVING. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A BINDING PROCEDURE...OR I NEED A NEW CAR? :-(
Thanks, Duccio. I'm afraid I had no trouble with mine, so I have no idea how to troubleshoot any problems. It's a real shame with yours. if there is no binding procedure in the manual, I wouldn't know what to do either. Maybe the ESC gave up. The problem with these is that the ESC and radio are in one unit. And the five wire servo. Makes it hard just to get a new ESC or a new receiver or servo. Try continue looking around a little on the net, to see if you stumble upon someone who experienced the same.
Which one is the best?
Not sure, Alf. They are very different :-) But I would go for the Thruster myself, personally.
Hi...
Great video!
I'm having problems with the esc of my 12891 ...
Would you know how to calibrate ESC?
Hi, bro! No I am afraid not. I do not have mine anymore, although I had a lot of fun with it. Hope you will solve the problems. Sorry I couldn’t help.
@@NordicRC - Ok ... I'm going to buy a new ESC and if it does not solve the problem I buy another ESC and Receiver separate ... I think the problem must be of this integrated ESC and Receiver! And when I accelerate the car or I give back at high speed the ESC turns off!
Uhh, doesn’t sound good. Yeah, probably a good idea just to switch it out.
Great comparison and bashing. I like both trucks. for me one has an IFS and the other one has a solid axle at the rear. :)
Thanks, Charlie! I had to google IFS (Independent Front Suspension?) - never heard that term before, but it's a handy short word :-) They behave extremely different although power/speed/acceleration is much the same with that same 390 motor and approcx the same weight. But yes, I like them both, although I think the Thruster, to the price, is a better bargain with the 2-speed trans and everything.
Very cool video 👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much!
Preference?
Not sure. They are so different. The Dune Thunder for bashing, jumps, full speed ... the Thruster for more serious and slower off roading
Nice
Thanks, Noah!
So basically one is a buggy and the other is more of a rock racer
Yes! Well said!
Nice slo mo bro.
Thanks, man! Slo mo in the sand is fun ☺️
+Nordic RC Visions yeah that fun.
Nice vid
Thanks a lot for the comment and feedback, dud898! Much appreciated.