Hiker Mike is Secretly the BEST Throwbot (And Other Unscripted Musings)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Remember when we used to talk about Rock Raiders on this channel? Slugger apparently doesn't. It's time for more Throwbots!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Introduction
0:17 Hiker Mike is Secretly the BEST Throwbot
1:25 Scuba Makes Use of Some Interesting Pieces
2:34 Throwbots are better than the Toa Metru fight me irl
3:17 Throwbot Pod Fins are the new Martian Ears
4:23 9 out of 8 Pips
5:18 Why Does a Main Build have Leftover Pieces?
6:05 Blaster's Knees
6:48 Bionicle Fans Always Ruin Everything TM
8:16 Unsolicited Disc Pics
8:43 Saying Goodbye To Throwbots
8:56 What's Next? (Roboriders, obviously)
10:55 Conclusion
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Hey folks! I had a few loose ends to tie up with Throwbots before putting the theme to bed.
I've been recently working on stuff for 2024, but we should be getting at least one more Slugger video for 2023, so stay tuned for that! 😊
Honestly I've been enjoying just about everything you've made thus far. Looking forward to 2024 and all the time it takes until you're ready is worth the wait.
P.S. the throw-bots were strange but didn't completely undermine the initial premise of their story, so i understand the Toa metru take. I'm a bionicle fan and huge on power miners, but the jabs are all in good fun.
Hopped on via Throwbots and if you did a Toa Metru video I would absoloutely watch it. Your format is really charming and sweet and I'm having a lot of fun exploring these fun little memories and seeing what other fun sets catch your eye. Very fun channel!
@@osakanone You’re in luck! Check out the back catalogue - I explored my thoughts on the Toa Metru a couple months ago. 🙂
It's time for rr slizer
The best kind of RR variant!
And now the "RR" stands for "Robo Riders"
I would absolutely love to see a video of you dishing the Toa Metru. As someone who loves the Toa Metru, that would go so hard. Especially if you have modifications of them, but it seems your biggest complaint is the bulk-standard build, which I don’t think is all that fixable haha
I agree I would like to hear him elaborate more on why he dislikes the Toa Metru, as someone who was too young for Bionicle during its run and started loving it retroactively I always thought they were a bit overrated
The Metru are only as beloved as they are because of their role in the grander Bonkle narrative and because they had higher articulation than the first three years at the cost of their gimmickry. You know, ignoring that this was the start of the Toa all being the same build with different masks and the story getting too convoluted to follow for its own good…
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Man, I just think they’re neat.
IMHO the Toa Metru just have the _worst_ version of the turn-a-gear-to-attack gimmick - their upper arms are locked to turning opposite directions, and if you lock 'em in place then the points of articulation start with the elbow!
And yeah, it definitely didn't help that the only real differences were the colors, masks, and weapons - but that's an issue that kind of plagued the line as a whole until... Mahri Nui's villain sets, I guess.
@@edvinkaziunas5847 Same here. I think I got Gresh and Tarduk as birthday gifts when I was 6, but the theme was basically over by that time. I also thought the Inika were the most overrated, not the Metru. But neither are as good as the Mata and Nuva, which is why I got all of them second hand, but I only have 3 Metru.
The most painful experience of stepping on a LEGO, will always be when a ThrowBot's mask is crushed and destroyed.
D: D: D: D:
I've had something similar happen before. Its heartbreaking
I truly respect your discipline in being ok with not collecting ALL the discs. Whenever I start collecting a new theme, I tell myself exactly that: I'm ok with not getting ALL the items. I don't want ALL the items. I don't need ALL the items... And then inexplicably, I end up with ALL the items 😔.
Plus, if you think about, your collection might actually be more unique if it's incomplete. I'd be willing to wager that there's a higher percentage of people that own all six of the original Toa Mata than there is people who own all but one. Plus the people who own 5/6 are likely missing a different one. Completionist ≠ uniqueness.
At least the Slizer disks all have different design illustrations on them. I can definitely understand people not wanting to collect all the Metru Kanoka disks besides having 1 of each 6 Metru designs. I can sleep not having the great Kanoka that cost 10 to 20 dollars each for having a complete set of pips on them, though if someone is making custom Toa disks for the other 5 Toa Metru like the one Vakama has on his set, HIT ME UP. I don't use the Matau disk for my pfp just cause. Think those sre great and it's such a shame they never made those officially.
Regarding the poaching theory with Spark, I think it's worth noting that his purple arm is set exclusive for that color- And there's _one_ per kit. Seems like that _might_ be the culprit.
That's kind of what I was thinking too, yeah. 👍
yep… the part in purple costs more than twice as much than any other color, even those also exclusive to just one set.
oh it's either the limited run theory or the purple arm 100% What's crazier is the arm piece isn't even the same shade of purple as anything else. It's slightly redder for some reason.
This might be the best thumbnail on your entire channel. Those colors. Its like an 80s windjacket or paper cup...which is a compliment. I love Hiker Mike so much you have no idea it unlocked so many core memories I never knew I had.
Thanks! I was definitely trying to emulate that style with the colours and striping! 😊
Yes, slug. Explain why the metru toas weren't all that good.
Gotta say I very much like the Slizer-Slugger, which has suddenly grown a mechanical throw-arm, and just goes "oooh (that's nice)"
Wait, the RoboRider combiner models use the canister lids as actual parts? That might make things interesting with buying the sets…
Yep, the lids had a picnic pinhole in them, the Toa Metru lids did something similar
I did not know most of these.
As for Blaster's knee axel, I think there was sort of a storage mode for him similar to the smaller slicers, where you reconnect his knees.
I'm currently collecting pieces for Eliminator from Bionicle. That thing is like a Slizer graveyard.
Just looked up pictures of him. Are we sure he’s a Makuta? Bro looks more like some mutant… thing born from the destruction of the Slizers’ homeworld.
He's actually a Dark Hunter (one of those rabbit holes from the Bionicle lore).
Eliminator and many others were fan creations that were put into the Bionicle story.
@@darkraptor3628which is cool because this random fan creation became canon
I love it when you ask "is this a video you guys would like to see?" as if we couldn't listen to you talk about anything for hours haha
Legend says that Vakama frequently received visions of Slizer and Robo Riders, and nightmares of Gallidor.
This mini Throwbots series has been just a delight. They're so goofy, it's right up the alley of R. R. Slugger!
I personally would love to see any video you feel like releasing! I have no skin in the Bionicle game, so I'll watch it either way!
Thank you! I've enjoyed them as well!
Much love my slimy friend ❤legos will always be my childhood and many others. I also appreciate the stopmotion additions in your videos, very well done :)
Thank you very much! ❤️
I always grin like a silly kid when I see you use the photo at 8:40! Glad to see you're getting good use outta that slug!
Absolutely! Thank you again! ❤️
As someone who adores the Toa Metru, I would love to see you roast them with the heat of a thousand suns.
It shall be a roast for the ages! 🔥 😉
Wait until the person who made this throwbot sees this video
The RR Slugger Christmas special is going to be wild.
Part 3 slizer woooo! I would love to see you roasting Toa Metru, who knows, the hatred may reveal the creepy side of the Slug once more.
And I would ABSOLUTELY love to see an extensive cover of the roboraiders and their combiners! I've built only few of them, I am really curious to see the rest being actually build by someone!
omg I know that profile pic
I feel like the main sets and combiners being separate videos is a perfectly valid option, I type as you come to that very conclusion yourself in the video.
Haha, thanks for the insight! It was really helpful in making my decision! 😉
I thought I was alone in hating the Metru build... Go for it!!
I've recorded the script! 6 pages of well-deliberated roasting await, haha. 😅
I'd be all over that Toa Metru vid. Honestly man you could do a video about paint drying and your production and script would probably have me entertained all the way through.
It's funny how that right arm piece (also found on '01 toa etc) is always of completely different shade of purple than the rest of the parts in Spark. Especially visible at 7:40
I noticed that too! I don't remember my childhood copy of the set suffering the same issue... 🤔
Great video, good to see you still posting!
Honestly I like to think that the 9 out of 8 bips thing is like a refence to "Turning it up to Eleven" to show how POWERFUL this disk is!
This Is Slizer Tap! I love it! 😂
As a Toa Metru fan it certainly would be interesting to see you make a video about them (regardless of any slander). I will beforehand say that I think that a lot of interesting things can be done with the Metru build as seen with the winning models of the canon Toa Hagah contest.
Indeed! It's interesting to see how the addition of modern parts into the mix can help make up for the Metru's shortcomings out of the box. I remember *at the time* feeling very limited by the Metru style compared to the Mata/Nuva style; it was like an Apple product, a closed system end to end, haha.
@@RRSlugger Not really a closed system when the Metru torso piece had far more unrestricted attachment points for armor, body shaping, or weapons. The innovation of a detachable hip piece did a lot to allow more customization. The Mata/Nuva torso literally was just one giant clump of plastic with axel and pin connections in areas the arms and legs are suppose to move, so you couldnt really attach much without obstructing even more articulation. There just more you could do with a Metru build, and the Hagah are an example of this. Also factor in that 2004 brought nearly all new pieces and colors to the table, a breath of fresh air after 3 stangnant build years with the far more limiting Mata torsos and the Bohrok clone army.
@@Bionickpunk I jumped ship fairly quickly, so using only 2004 era pieces, yeah it really felt like an iPod compared to the less restricted systems of Mata Nui. Now, *since* then, I've seen some pretty great MOCs using the Metru system with more modern pieces added to help bolster the limited build variety seen at launch.
I think one of the reasons I so dislike the Toa Metru is down to their torso design - the way the arms connect to the body and gear system is just such a massive step backward, in my opinion. Hopefully I'll be able to better illustrate why in the future.
Glad to be of assistance!
I appreciate the honesty in keeping the Slug-o-meter a three-tier system. Rating 30-year-old Lego sets is about as subjective as it gets, and using any more granularity than "bad/okay/good" is just peddling personal preference as objective ranking.
Totally agree! They're more like tiers in this way too; top tier, mid tier, and bottom tier is a good way to think about it. 👍
I would absolutely love to watch you destroy the toa metru with facts and logic!
Incredible! The set work is unmatched
Christopher Guest’s Throwbots disk design
Glad to help you decide how to do Roboriders. It's what the community is here for.
After the meteor destroyed half of slugger's house, only his slizer sets surviving, outta the wreckage a new mutated being rises, his name: R R Slizer! The R R standing for Robo Riders. R R Slizer dominates the youtube algorithm with his rock raiders colors, great points of articulations, and most importantly............THE ABILITY TO TURN FROM A SLIZER INTO A SMALLER SLIZER RIDING A CHROME CRUSHER! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH
The short mention of the small roboriders sets has me very excited, they were some of the first lego technic sets i had just before bionicle. Looking forward to it!
Shadowy Santa is more terrifying than he should be. Looking forward to it, and also RoboRiders!
I'd suggest two videos: one for the riders out of the box, with their "intended" designs, babies and Boss included. Then do a second video for Combiners. I know you said this in the video yourself, but just affirming I think that's the best course of action!
And yes, do a critique of Toa Metru. It's always good to have more opinions in the pool as they say! Do they say that? They say it now.
Great to help out with the roboriders. You're welcome!
Happy holidays slugger 👍🏽
Same to you! ❤️
I would love to see the toa metru video.
The pod mold thing blows my mind!
Thanks for the extra throwbot content!
It’s so sad how Lego went from Throwbots to “NOBOTS!!!” after Bionicle came out
So true! At least the early Rahi still feel related in some way...
Love these goofy lil guys, I think I really like the look of the yellow flyer guy you didn't enjoy
I loved the vibe of this video lol.
Ngl i wouldnt mind a 40-60 minute deep dive into all of roboriders and its combiners
But I would mind *making* it..! 😅
I'll do what I can with the theme, but this all just a hobby, of course.
I wouldn't mind 2 separate videos for robo riders. Also I would love to see a video of you ranting about the toa metru.
As someone who grew up in online bionicle communities like BZPower, I remember how desireable the purple elements from silzer were. I think it wasn't so much to directly replicate Voriki, but more to make your own custom mocs either based off of it or just with similar schemes. Teal and purple parts were almost like a status symbol, or at least that's how my child brain remembers it :p
This is making me want to go buy the throwbots I never had, and replace any I may have lost.
The R.R. in R.R. Slugger stands for Robo Riders
It's canon now! 😆
I would be happy if Slugger never makes videos on anything except Throwbots again
Haha, entirely fair! 😅
I started a trial account for Final Fantasy 14 recently and there’s a chocobo named *Slugger* that you have to like clean or feed or something for the main quest. You may not know what a chocobo is but trust me, it made me smile. 4:30, hahaha now that’s what you call “power creep” hahaha, it’s a shame we never got the *eleven* pip disc.
I would definitely watch and enjoy a Toa Metru video from you, but I imagine anything else on the Slugger to-do list would be something I'd prefer to see. Not to say it's a bad idea! Just thinking about what I'd want to see the most among everything I imagine you have planned, a la Slug-o-Meter comparison.
I think I completely missed Robo-Riders back in the day so I'm looking forward to discovering what I missed! They look fun!
Lol that throwbots logo just awakened a latent memory, i thought the arm in the throwbot logo was "McThrowbots"
Slugger making not one, not two, but THREE videos about Slizers? Christmas came early this year
Aw i loved roboroders!!! Never knew about the boss though, may have been too expensive when I was a child!
I look forward to seeing a video about them
The Toa Metru video would certainly be a funny one!
So beautiful
Love this kind of unscripted video!
Theory: Hiker Mike is just a really cool guy 😎
Agreed!
As a Bionicle fan, I do lament the homogenisation of the canister sets after the Toa Mata. The Bohrok were already pretty lazy with them all sharing the exact same build and gear function. The Toa Nuva brought it back a bit, but I feel they were just retaining unique build choices rather than expanding on them. The Toa Metru were the last canister sets I bought the full set of back in the day and only picked up 1 of the Vahki, Toa Hordika and Visorak before losing interest in the line entirely.
So yeah, would love to see a video from you on the subject as I too would take a Slizer over a Toa Metru any day.
Millenium's extra pieces when in bike mode are specifically to allow for the hiker mike antenna
Hahaha, I love this! 😆
As always, fun video, Slugger!
A quick thing to point out regarding the tube system on Scuba: the Aquazone subthemes, Hydronauts and Stingrays (both from 1998), used the tubes pretty regularly. They're especially visible on the box art for sets 6150/6159 Crystal Detector, 6180 Hydro Search Sub, 6160 Sea Scorpion, and 6198 Sting Ray Stormer.
Can't wait for the next deep dive!
That’s what I thought… until I looked it up on Bricklink! Apparently, those sets use a 4mm diameter tube, whereas Scuba and the other three sets I displayed in the video use a 3mm tube! 😮
Huh. Well I'll be!
@@HeadlessClient Believe me - I was as surprised to learn this as you! ❤
Oh my god, Millenia had NINE pips? I never realized this, much like you I just assumed, based on the established conventions, instead of actually counting them. I guess it helps make the character feel more "special", like they are the exception, they go "one beyond", they are that cool.
I am a fan of Throwbots as well, it's a very... "of its time" sort of thing, a gimmick that we can look back at fondly like slinkies, pogs and finger skateboards.
Roboriders is pretty cool! I had 3 of them, I think. I think the combiners can be a separate video yeah, to be reasonable to you, maybe you could focus on the 3 most popular ones. How do you determine which ones are the most popular? Make a poll! hahaha
Slizers can be folded to make them fit their box.
Blaster can be made more compact, as well, it's just too big for a box.
The legconnector helps to align the legs better. It's shoulders can fold against the back, head to the chest and weapons flat before the body. I would pretend that was his sleeping-mode.
Slizers look pretty cool, i agree with your take over the metru.
10:52 I am so glad I could help
the little fella at 5:11 is the cutest thing ever i need to make my own
That build is from 31139 Cozy House originally! 🙂
Great series! Slizers and Roboriders were my jam. I also have two different pod molds among my collection, shame we can't tell when exactly these were changed.
Always got a Mech warrior vibe from the first wave of throwbots
I would pay serious money to see a video of RR reviewing the first four or so Bionicle lines. Like $30 easily.
Hahaha, dang that IS serious money!! 😉
Looking forward to your RoboRiders video. I think I had Onyx and maybe Frost when I was a kid
Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to tackle that one this summer.
I would be 100% down with you doing a video on the Toa Metru.
I do want to see you pick at the Toa metru, but what you choose to highlight and praise has been the most interesting of your content.
That's why I was wary, yeah - it's so easy to fall into the "I hate everything" cesspool. Better to stay positive, methinks!
Still, it seems like a bunch of people want me to talk about it, haha... I just need to work on framing it as something more friendly than a brutal takedown. 😅
@@RRSlugger Honestly hearing your thought process on it would be very enlightening.
I would love to see a vid of you dunking on the toa metru! I have my reasons for loving them over the original two waves but I can also admit the flaws and would love to see you tear them apart figuratively and literally XD
bro's about to become the R R Slizer
you're so funny and informative,
Thank you! ❤️
I enjoy giving your videos a like before I even watch the video because I know these are 100% guaranteed to be good
Edit: yup. Watched the video all the way through. Was absolutely right
Haha, thank you! ❤️
Id like to vote which combiner models we want to see, seems like the best option, like 2 or 3
exquisite
The stab at the Toa Metru is completely warranted lol. I love them, but man are they flawed.
I would watch the video
Oh wow, when I said Bionicle was the reason for rare purple parts, I TOTALLY forgot about Voriki. That is 100% the reason.
2:00 I own every throw bot other than millennium. So I can confirm. This is the only one with a system connection underneath the head.
One video for the regular and one for the combiner models sounds great
Hell yeah
I've had Slizers for almost 20 years and never even noticed that they had anti-studs on the bottom of the heads.
They don't even look like antistuds really!
3:50 hah i remember the lids always snapping off of mine, and yes on inspection my 2 throwbots are indeed from first wave
The fins don't make the problem go away entirely, but they do make a noticeable difference!
I'd love to see both the toa metru slander and the roboriders video!
I remember the Voricki thing from my BZPower days.
Please talk about the Toa Metru. I agree that they just don't feel like a step up from the 2001 - 2003 builds
Hey slugger, as a huge fan of the Toa Metru I would absolutely love to see you roasting them, as I know there is plenty to dislike about them XD
and I cant wait to see the Roborider videos when they're ready, as a kid browsing the lego magazine, I saw the massive combiners requiring all 6 and dreamed about one day seeing it made.
Also have you considered covering Lego Spybotics sometime? it seems like it might be up your street if you like weird technic stuff?
Haha, thanks! That's how I hope folks would react to it - a friendly roast. Everyone likes what they like! 😊
Spybotics is a curious theme to me, but to be honest, the only reason I have covered some of these odd ones like Throwbots/Xalax is because I stumbled into complete collections for very cheap. Roboriders is the same deal - with Spybotics, I don't currently have any of them, but I would certainly talk about them in the future if a similar situation happens to me. 🙂
You could split the RoboRider in several videos yeah, do the combiners in a separate video !
Well my opinion wasn't needed in the end, but glad you know what to do now !
Hahaha, thanks! 😉
I spent 20 minutes after watching this video. Thinking about the way you analyze lego sets. And I would be excited to hear what You think about the Toal Metru from your own sluggish orifice.
A video about what you think about the toa metru would be very interesting! 😁😁😁
I wouldn't mind that Toa Metru video. I love hearing your opinions on Bionicle, because they don't always align with that of people who dedicate more time and energy to the theme. Plus I just think you have a really interesting mindset when it comes to LEGO in general. Though I must admit there is a bit of selfishness on my part since I did leave that reference to Metru Nui at the end of the last story bit I wrote. I don't want that to be a deciding factor for you, I just want to make my biases clear
Haha, I wouldn’t want to mess up your story arc! 😉
Are there any exposed axles on biker Millennium? It seems like it should be pretty easy to stick those extra parts somewhere.
The stirrups for the feet could be a good place to store them!
Amusingly, I was typing out a suggestion for the Roboriders video(s) but you just so happened to say exactly what I would have! I imagine you won't be tackling collecting all... 16 designs... 8 sets... plus TNO in the service pack... 144 (?!) wheel designs, so we'll have to live with just a few examples for each. Looking forward to it!
Oh dear goodness! Then there are the golden wheels that came in combo packs in Germany - so rare that they aren't even listed on Bricklink! 💀
I do seem them listed on Bricklink, interestingly they're unprinted. A few of them appear to have listings for sale, but of course very few and for far too much to sensibly spend.
@@kopakaskoolkompanion Oh interesting! I wonder if they're recent additions to Bricklink; I don't recall seeing them there before. 😮
@@RRSlugger Yeah can't say I've seen them there before, only noticed when I pulled up the wheels to check the colour count just now!
I would REALLY wanna see you bash the metru build :' ) not only because i feel it's the second to last boring bionicle build (inika being the worst imo) but also because people seem to raise it to the skies for some reason and it would be fun to see someone elses thoughts on it that isn't just gushing over it.
Two vids seems reasonable for RR! looking forward to them :)
For sure! I'm right there with you... I just don't see what folks see in the Metru build. Maybe it's lore driven or something? 😅
@@RRSlugger i heard it's partly because it's the first build with near-human anatomy and it has an elegance that no earlier set had. of course the elbow joint does it's part together with retaining the gear function. i can definately see the4se merits but i feel that it passed the point of "elegance" and became more "sterile" in the end, but that's just my personal opinion :) and that comes from someone who enjoy the Vahki and the Hordika(especially for the return to asymetry).
I'd be interested in seeing a "Toa Metru Teardown". Always interested in people's opinions on bonkle, especially if they differ from my own.
Just checked for those fins on mine; never noticed them before. My copies of Ski, Judge, Amazon, and Scuba don't have them. I got the first wave of 8 used from a used Lego shop so I have no idea the timeframes of when they were originally purchased. For the first time now, I'm curious!