16:45 The Loviisa Nuclear Power Plant is still in operation in 2020, with the 2 Soviet-built reactors. Together they produce about 8 terawatt hours of electricity per year, which is roughly 10% of Finland's annual electricity production. The reactors are licensed to operate until 2027 and 2030, and will probably continue to work even beyond that.
I assume the individual pressure tubes are easy to change out, so you don't have to deal with neutron embrittlement which is actually the driver behind the lifespan limits of PWRs and BWRs with their giant steel casting/forging reactor cores. Actually, I believe the Russians have recently developed a technique of annealing the reactor vessel to relieve the neutron embrittlement and extend the operating life of PWRs and BWRs.
На основе действующего рабочего проекта РБМК были попытки создать канальные реакторы типа РБМКП-2400 и РБМКП-4800 с прямоугольной конфигурацией активной зоны (габариты: 7×7×27 метров) и более интенсивным перегревом пара (до 600 °С). P.S. Оптимистическая картина интенсивного развития атомной энергетики была очень сильно подорвана и заторможена Чернобыльской аварией...
And, nevertheless, Russia is continuing idea of closed power-nuclear-cycle creating fast neutroune reactors... Because this is the future, because this can supply mankind with energy for several centuries. This can won some time on improving nuclear fusion reactors.
Thanks for this documentary. You are the best! I will not promise, but if I have time, I will translate it into Serbian. Well I believe you can put in subtitles in addition to English and Polish. Ask me, it should be translated into every language, because the documentary is phenomenal!
That would be fantastic! I can send you subtitles with timestamps in a text file if you like, just message me on facebook. facebook.com/ForgottenChernobyl
Outro dia eu vi um documentario da construcao do rbmk 1000 ,achei lindo a dedicacao dos tecnicos do trabalhadores ,é incrivel o funcionamento e a engenharia por tras do projeto
That would be great! Can you message me through my facebook page (fb.com/ForgottenChernobyl) please? This way I can send you a text wile with all subtitles and timestamps.
It doesn't if operated within its normal limitations like the ones still being used in Russia. You seems like a victim bent on seeing only the imaginative negativity of the western propaganda.
Não dá pra negar que o projeto do RBMK tinha uma ótima vc relação custo-benefício, porém algumas modificações eram necessárias para evitar o desastre de 1986. Modificações essas que só foram implementadas depois do acontecido.
english subtitles are wrong: the water-water reactor type is shortened to WWER - not VVER ... but even english documentaries get it wrong calling a WWER reactor a VVER one ... is it really that hard to get it right?
Both acronyms are considered correct however in English W makes a different sound than Russian W (B in cyrillic). Russian W sounds more like V (as in Volume) and you pronounce the reactor type as vodo-vodyanoi energeticheski reaktor. That's why I decided to use V in the Russian video. The VVER annotation is even used officially by Rosatom, I think people who designed those reactors get it right after all. ;) rosatom.ru/en/rosatom-group/engineering-and-construction/modern-reactors-of-russian-design/
@@ForgottenChornobyl very much thank you for that explanation I wasn't aware that vver is also considered "valid" - as someone from germany, where w and v are as similar as in russian (btw: I had russian as my 2nd language - and although I forgot quite a lot over the past decade (simply as I didn't had someone to speak it with) I still know the basics and still can read the cyrillic alphabet (it's like riding a bycicle - once learned it's a skill for the rest of you life) - hence I'm aware about that there is no "v" in russian) I always thought using "v" in languages in which water is spelled with a "w" to an error well deserved respect for that reply - +like +rep #You'reImpressive
@@cryptearth I will keep it in mind when I find someone willing to translate it to German, but I think most Germans speak English anyway so you can still watch those clips?
@@ForgottenChornobyl I can only speak for my generation (90s): the time I was in school english was the first foreign language in any type or form of school - which, at least to my knowledge, is still true today - so, anyone born from 90 on does get some years of english in school - as for anyone older: depends on which part of germany you lived while you was in school: in east germany there only was german and russian - end of story - but in west germany it gets a bit more complicated: as west germany was split between the brits, the us and the french depend in which sector you lived you could have learned either british english, american english, or french - so, for anyone born before 90 there's a majority of people never learned english at all
I believe the film was released before the accident, but I couldn't find the exact date anywhere. Or the propaganda just ignored it, as usual. Pozdrawiam! :)
I've heard the Pacific consists of quite some water and can handle this minor pollution with only slightly radioactive tritium like a champ. Sellafield and La Hague pump about double the amount of tritium everyday into the English Channel.
@@zabdas83 wish I could get my hands onto some high grade coke, but Im not joking. The reprocessing of burnt fuel elements produces a lot of weak radioactive water, with mostly short living isotopes. This water get's dumped into the sea via pipeline(which is not illegal). Otherwise all nuclear reprocessing plants would need huge tanks on shore(for rad. water storage) which would be much more problematic to keep safe.
@@Squilliam-Fancyson Fukushima is different though, we're talking about a reactor meltdown/explosion/failure, therfore the 'spill' going into the Pacific is much worse?
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"Operating experience has shown that 1,000 megawatts, for these reactors, is not the limit."
how about +30,000MW? lol
@@deano023 nooooooo *BOOOOM*
Ha ha that's ironic
@@Johann52005 I would say it is uranic. Sorry bout that...
7:13
Translation: The RBMK reactor can finish the 10 year plan of energy production in 10 milliseconds.
Stupid comentary
Completely normal phenomenon!
16:45 The Loviisa Nuclear Power Plant is still in operation in 2020, with the 2 Soviet-built reactors. Together they produce about 8 terawatt hours of electricity per year, which is roughly 10% of Finland's annual electricity production. The reactors are licensed to operate until 2027 and 2030, and will probably continue to work even beyond that.
Can it even be decomissioned without replacement reactors? Finland is already depending on import of electricity, right?
I assume the individual pressure tubes are easy to change out, so you don't have to deal with neutron embrittlement which is actually the driver behind the lifespan limits of PWRs and BWRs with their giant steel casting/forging reactor cores. Actually, I believe the Russians have recently developed a technique of annealing the reactor vessel to relieve the neutron embrittlement and extend the operating life of PWRs and BWRs.
I can swear it will go boom some day,like Chernobyl
The Loviisa NPP is being converted to being able to run on Elk-meat meatballs.
The background instrumental is soothing, i wonder if there are any source of the soundtrack
Ikr I literally fell asleep to this like it was narrated by a Soviet Bob Ross!
Скорее всего, музыка написано композитором специально для этого фильма.
На основе действующего рабочего проекта РБМК были попытки создать канальные реакторы типа РБМКП-2400 и РБМКП-4800 с прямоугольной конфигурацией активной зоны (габариты: 7×7×27 метров) и более интенсивным перегревом пара (до 600 °С).
P.S. Оптимистическая картина интенсивного развития атомной энергетики была очень сильно подорвана и заторможена Чернобыльской аварией...
And, nevertheless, Russia is continuing idea of closed power-nuclear-cycle creating fast neutroune reactors... Because this is the future, because this can supply mankind with energy for several centuries. This can won some time on improving nuclear fusion reactors.
Так и есть
И это очень обидно. Отказ многих стран от АЭС не оправдан.
Thanks for this documentary. You are the best! I will not promise, but if I have time, I will translate it into Serbian. Well I believe you can put in subtitles in addition to English and Polish. Ask me, it should be translated into every language, because the documentary is phenomenal!
That would be fantastic! I can send you subtitles with timestamps in a text file if you like, just message me on facebook.
facebook.com/ForgottenChernobyl
@@ForgottenChornobyl ive send you a message..
Obrigado pelo documentário e pela tradução para português.
Thanksfor the documentary and for the translation to portuguese.
Outro dia eu vi um documentario da construcao do rbmk 1000 ,achei lindo a dedicacao dos tecnicos do trabalhadores ,é incrivel o funcionamento e a engenharia por tras do projeto
Watching this has a big fever dream vibe to it. It's interesting, though. I see this is a 1986 copyright, but was it before or after 'the event?'
I was wondering the same...
Seriously? You watched the video? It's pretty clear at what point this documentary was made imo.
Chernobyl got memory-holed in the making of this film. Wonder why? ;)
Awesome video, thank you.
T
hanks for this, it was a beautiful dream.
"It's not 3 roentgen, it's 15,000."
Fox Moulder at 5:29
Where did you obtain this film before uploading it to yt? How did you find it?
С TH-cam-канала Тимура Гаранина
"The safety of soviet nuclear power plants fully meet international requirements"
That aged well.
It's funny, because if I recall correctly, most of, if not all RBMK reactors didn't have any containment, and for some reason all VVER reactors had
@@the_roccardo7642 no, only VVER-1000s had, but none of VVER-440, except those in Finland, of course :)
This film aged like milk within a matter of monts...
Was this filmed/released before or after the disaster?
My guess is before, but there was no exact date provided anywhere.
where can I find the BGM?
Shazam
5:45 RBMK reaktor
Reactor high power kanalniy(rbmk)reactor water-water energetic(wwer),,rbmk-1000,wwer-1000-1000 megawatt
Reactor rbmk worked slowly neutron,reactor bn-600-high speed neutron
RBMK-leningradskaya,kurskaya,smolenskaya,ignolinskaya,chernobilskaya NPP
can i translate this film to my language (Bahasa Indonesia)?
That would be great! Can you message me through my facebook page (fb.com/ForgottenChernobyl) please? This way I can send you a text wile with all subtitles and timestamps.
Vnimanie, vnimanie
🚨☢🚨☢🚨
RMBK Reactor's Doesn't explode
Nope in Soviet russia Power plant exploads ypu
@Timothy Simpson you are delusional
It doesn't if operated within its normal limitations like the ones still being used in Russia. You seems like a victim bent on seeing only the imaginative negativity of the western propaganda.
@@redbaron9029 i think ur in the wrong comment section
@@redbaron9029 all RBMK reactors have been refirbished after the accident lol :) If it "doesn't explode" then why have they done that?))
Safety systems of Soviet nuclear power plants fully meet international requirements. 😁 LOL
😂😂
The VVER did. But the rbmk... nope
🤣 OMG
@@beet3870 Kinda shame MKER never got a chance. Core simplicity of RBMK, but with actual containment and better controls this time.
@@caav56 yep i agree
Tja, so viel Optimismus. Und dann Tschernobyl!!
3:30 I love how the narration tries to gaslight people to believe the oil resources are running out 😂
Эх какая страна была... и всё прос...ли 😒
Сам в а___е...
Otimo documentario ,porem é lastimavel o acidente com o rbmk 1000 que eu acho particularmente uma jóia da engenharia Russa
Não dá pra negar que o projeto do RBMK tinha uma ótima vc relação custo-benefício, porém algumas modificações eram necessárias para evitar o desastre de 1986. Modificações essas que só foram implementadas depois do acontecido.
Gostei muito, com tradução em Português. Uma pena que vários dados informados são extremamente equivocados hahahah
english subtitles are wrong: the water-water reactor type is shortened to WWER - not VVER ... but even english documentaries get it wrong calling a WWER reactor a VVER one ... is it really that hard to get it right?
Both acronyms are considered correct however in English W makes a different sound than Russian W (B in cyrillic). Russian W sounds more like V (as in Volume) and you pronounce the reactor type as vodo-vodyanoi energeticheski reaktor. That's why I decided to use V in the Russian video.
The VVER annotation is even used officially by Rosatom, I think people who designed those reactors get it right after all. ;)
rosatom.ru/en/rosatom-group/engineering-and-construction/modern-reactors-of-russian-design/
@@ForgottenChornobyl very much thank you for that explanation
I wasn't aware that vver is also considered "valid" - as someone from germany, where w and v are as similar as in russian (btw: I had russian as my 2nd language - and although I forgot quite a lot over the past decade (simply as I didn't had someone to speak it with) I still know the basics and still can read the cyrillic alphabet (it's like riding a bycicle - once learned it's a skill for the rest of you life) - hence I'm aware about that there is no "v" in russian) I always thought using "v" in languages in which water is spelled with a "w" to an error
well deserved respect for that reply - +like +rep #You'reImpressive
@@cryptearth I will keep it in mind when I find someone willing to translate it to German, but I think most Germans speak English anyway so you can still watch those clips?
@@ForgottenChornobyl I can only speak for my generation (90s): the time I was in school english was the first foreign language in any type or form of school - which, at least to my knowledge, is still true today - so, anyone born from 90 on does get some years of english in school - as for anyone older: depends on which part of germany you lived while you was in school: in east germany there only was german and russian - end of story - but in west germany it gets a bit more complicated: as west germany was split between the brits, the us and the french depend in which sector you lived you could have learned either british english, american english, or french - so, for anyone born before 90 there's a majority of people never learned english at all
German transcription is WWER
Today on Things Which Aged Like Milk.
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omg
Booom
........and there goes the three mile island reactor.!
144p
nice video, but nothing about chernobyl. Very good proaganda for 1986
I believe the film was released before the accident, but I couldn't find the exact date anywhere. Or the propaganda just ignored it, as usual. Pozdrawiam! :)
@@ForgottenChornobyl yeah, they probably were still stuck on 3.6 roentgens. The Soviets were, after all, forced to admit the accident happened
Nuke power is SO awesome, just look at what Fukishima is doing to the Pacific. . .
And how air pollution from coal and oil kills 7 million people a year!
I've heard the Pacific consists of quite some water and can handle this minor pollution with only slightly radioactive tritium like a champ. Sellafield and La Hague pump about double the amount of tritium everyday into the English Channel.
@@Squilliam-Fancyson what you smoking Joe
... Crac ?
@@zabdas83 wish I could get my hands onto some high grade coke, but Im not joking. The reprocessing of burnt fuel elements produces a lot of weak radioactive water, with mostly short living isotopes. This water get's dumped into the sea via pipeline(which is not illegal). Otherwise all nuclear reprocessing plants would need huge tanks on shore(for rad. water storage) which would be much more problematic to keep safe.
@@Squilliam-Fancyson Fukushima is different though, we're talking about a reactor meltdown/explosion/failure, therfore the 'spill' going into the Pacific is much worse?
where can I find the BGM?