Joy Division: Transmissions | The Artwork for Unknown Pleasures
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- Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook and Stephen Morris talk about how the artwork for Unknown Pleasures came about and their controversial decision not to make any t-shirts.
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Episode 2 of the Joy Division: Transmissions interview series. A celebration of Unknown Pleasures in its 40th anniversary year.
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Watch Bernard, Peter and Stephen talk about New Order's debut album in another Transmissions series here: lnk.to/NewOrder-TransmissionsAY - เพลง
"Our logo is the most bootlegged in rock history, and we haven't done anything about it in 43 years"
I love these guys so much holy shit.
Since the 'logo' isn't theirs, how could they do anything about it? (Except pay the actual owners some money?)
@@jennyjohn704 you're wrong and you'll forever be wrong, not by fact but by semantics
@@jennyjohn704 Who's band is it if it isn't theirs?
That Stephen, so eloquent he literally talked in bass.
2:05 they censored Stephen with a Transmission bassline lol
Hi I'm ETHAN
Nice catch there Ethan, keep it up :P
They did, dint they?
Not quite a line. Two notes, but I know what you mean.
Awesome.
This is why I think Joy Division is a really interesting band because they didn’t believe in franchising their albums or their music. All they cared about was making music.
Joy Divsion are an interesting band because their music is timeless and just fucking great really.
Tony Coleby. Yeah there will never be another Joy Division.
I discovered the albums of Joy Division/New Order in the early 90s in used record stores in the Bible Belt of the USA. It was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to find ANY information about these two bands. Their photos on the Low Life album are literally the ONLY images I saw of the bands for years. They were so utterly mysterious to me and it added SO much to the experience.
@@alexysagredano675 totally agree!!!
I agree with Peter Hook that an iconic image is better than using their faces.
Every time I wear that shirt, I get people telling me how much they like Joy Division.
never thought i'd hear Stephen Morris say the word meme
My friend wore a joy division shirt not even knowing it was a joy division shirt and asked what i thought the lines meant and I said 'that's the cover of a joy division album' and he said, 'what's that' and I was astonished that he even bought the shirt because there are no joy division shirts.
There are loads of Joy Division t-shirts. I had one in about '83. They might not have sold them while Joy Division was around, but sure as hell did soon after. Joy Division were a truly great band but some (Hook in this video for sure) over do things. I doubt they are in the top 100 of most bootlegged acts.
@@jennyjohn704 I can tell you they didn't sell t-shirts while Joy Division was around and for a while during New Order. This was because their manager Rob Gretten was adamant that they don't do t-shirts. They did do pin badges but not t-shirts. They only officially started doing it in the late 90s or so.
I'll be buried in my Joy Division garb. I remember hearing "Love will tear us apart", in 1980, I was 7. From then on, if you're a true fan, you'll never, ever get tired or burned out from listening to them. For me, my love for Joy Division only grows deeper🖤🎵🖤
"we didn't believe in promotion, everything about Joy Division was about let the music speak for itself"
It's great hearing Stephen say "meme"
Bernard watching videos in 1979!! Man we had not even heard of videos back then.
one of the greatest albums ever
madly agree.. one helluva an album!
I love this documentary, Peter just talks about how he wanted to be punk the whole way through 🤣
At least these vids make this channel worthwhile.thanks!!!
Diffrent Colors Diffrent Shades
Diffrent Folks Diffrent Strokes
Over each mistakes were made
@@corvidox i took the blame
I want more than ever to meet up with Barney and geek out over 2001
Great artwork 🖤
I have recently taken up shooting and theres a young lady there who wears a Unknown pleasures Tee shirt , we chat about them a lot , she will get all my JD vinyl one day
Who understand what Stephen said? He's tottaly crazy ahahaha, transmission bassline!
This series is class!
Thank you 🙏
I hope that Hookie being in these videos means that he and the rest of the band have made up.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was working yesterday and a guy came in wearing a shirt with ian on it unlike other people just with the UP cover shirt.
Exelente 👊
Wait...there's a band of this T-shirt?
Matt Ford *every person who is ever worn a nirvana t-shirt*
You know what I love wearing? My JD Unknown Pleasures t-shirt, with the image from the record sleeve's insert. A lot of kids at the club are like "what is that from?" HAHA.
Stephen looks like he is in his early 40s
I have the T….And it opens great conversation
Okay.
I bought my t-shirt today
better late than never.
Where did you get yours from😂
Joy division sensacional
Big Joy adoro
Precisam traduzir isso cara
nice
In the 80s fans in Krautland made shirts and stickers by themselves. The mainstreamers didn't knew anything about J.D., the WDR boycotted J.D. because it were "sick, depressive, suicidal music"! Nowadays the same journalists claim to have always appreciated their records as masterpieces!
I've got an unknown pleasures tshirt
...😳
Vinil obrigatório pra quem curte Rock
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Il fatto stesso che il gruppo ha cambiato il nome da Joy Division in New Order è (anche se non lo ammettono,anzi sei pazzo a dire questo) un "offesa" ed un "dimenticare una volta per tutte" Ian Curtis !!! Come a dire "aveva stancato", !!! Da parte mia sono più che convinto che non vedevano l'ora che Ian la facesse finita....bassista specialmente !!! Ho questo sesto senso, è fino ad oggi non mi sono mai sbagliato....
Me pregunto se habrán imaginado que iban a hacer historia? que Ian tenía fecha de vencimiento?
Para nada, eran jovenes y uno no se imagina tal cosa..
My tattoo
Cool!
I saw a knockoff t-shirt featuring the muppets at Marshalls. I should’ve bought it.
i have one bootleg cd live in amsterdam
They did make Joy Division badges and brought them to gigs to sell/handout. That’s not much different than a shirt in terms of promotion.
The non-promotion thing was a Factory gimmick and never actually true. Giving some their posters catalogue numbers doesn't stop them being promotion. Factory always had a very elitist vibe and the 'we don't do promotion' mantra was very central to that elitism. Of course, in practice this meant that most of their acts didn't get paid.
Will there be subtitles in Russian?
Augustine Lacroix learn English m8
@@f.f5771 niet
shame they don't get on now
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God Peter is the best!
First
So sick of seeing punters in JD's "Unknown Pleasures" t-shirts.
Why?
Join the WGT at Leipzig! Probably you'll be half sick half amazed.
Should've asked them what they thought of the quickly-withdrawn Mickey Mouse "Unknown Pleasures" shirt.
Here's a quote allegedly from Stephen Morris in the comments section of a Guardian article on it.
Stephen Morris on the Mickey Mouse Unknown Pleasures T-shirt.
"I was quite angry when I first saw it. No one asked us. They’re trading off the band and our album cover, but get away with it by apparently saying the design was ‘inspired’ by us. I don’t like the design at all. It’s horrible. I can’t imagine any Joy Division fans wearing it. Or anyone for that matter."
Dudley Morris I think I remember reading somewhere how either hooky or Stephen said “I hope they understand when we start making Donald Duck shirts” or something like that
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Band T-Shirts are ****. Rob was right. I can't stand the many hordes of Unknown Pleasures T-Shirts because a) The Fade b) They look cheap and most importantly c) The image is never scaled down, so it lacks the beauty of Saville's original design. Ditto 'Closer'.
Darren Hoggett. I agree with you. Some people wear it just because of fashion even though they don’t know who Joy Division are
Meh. If it gets people into this great band then I'm not mad
Darren Hoggett. Yeah I get some people just wear because it looks cool. I remember someone from my school had a Rolling Stones shirt and I said to her “ do you listen to The Rolling Stones?” And she said no I just wear it.
zephyra. Yeah many kids today listen to pop and rap. But there’s a small percentage of kids who listen to rock.And I’m one of them. But there’s a really small percentage of kids who listen to Joy Division. Which is sad.
Am 37. Heard Blue Monday and liked it it was made by a band called New Order. Heard True Faith and it was the same band. I discovered Joy Division from New Order. Didn't know they were the same band. I like both. I like New Order because if their electronic music. Joy Division with Ian I feel could have been big. Ian was probably one of a kind and would have been bigger than Bono and U2 and be one of the top 3 or 4 bands of all time. New Order God bless was successful but in a different way.
two iconic sleeves-closer -bands like that doesen't exists anymore-today the music is 98 % shit
Hold on. As much as I love the band (etc) and a great story, Bernard Sumner, you're telling me that in 1979 when you were skint, you could afford to buy a video recorder....which hadn't been released for very long....and watch 2001 A Space Oddity many many years before its release? I think you've started to believe your own stories too much my friend and fact is just a small part of the fictional element of your musical journey.
Nobody had been to the moon when '2001 Space Odyssey' was released in 1968. The official VCR was not release until 1980, but it had been broadcast on tv since '77. Video recorders had been available, new or for rent, from 1972, and by '79 second-hand VCR's and bootleg movies were easy to get hold of.
Dude, you could get commercial films to project 🎥 @ home BEFORE VHS & vhs players came out!!
@@GoldenAgeSk8Video fair enough, a good point well said.
Amazing how un-pretentious those three have always been, and not ever embraced myths.