I encounter similar questions in my class to trainees from different countries. The name of the dimension is something they have to jump over first, for they are daily used terms very familiar to everyone. That is why I appreciate Dr. Hofstede open every session by talking about where these concepts came from in the first place and what they mean specifically in cross-cultural comparasons. Even professionals like professors and scientists get confused occasionally in lecturing and discussion on these concepts. But we do not seem to have a choice, intuition is helpful but not always. However, dedbates and doubts from both academics and general public are driving forces for an accurate and precise knowledge of different cultures.
Wow! nicely explained the sixth cultural dimensions in hofstede. I am from India, it seems to be very close to accurate specially for India. But as the generations change and as the people become more globalized, the score of this keeps changing.
These videos are a masterpiece. Thanks Dr. Hofstede for all the work done. I would like to mention that I noticed one thing on the IvR dimension: Countries that faced war directly into their territories tend to be more restraint. I'm just a business student and I did not research to support the above sentence, it is an observation from my perspective.
I am writing a paper on the 6 different dimensions and PDI and IND caught my attention the most. Its very interesting learning about the different cultures and different PDI's.
English-speaking countries have very high individualism and fairly low power distance although not as low as places like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Austria.
not sure how Australia being a High indulgence country have a high birth rate? if anything they are struggling with ageing population and low birth rate.
Birthrate is one of many things that appear to correlate with indulgence scores. It does not mean it is the only indicator/predictor and it also doesn't mean that it's even that important. It may be weighted as far less important than many other factors. It's pointless to point to one part of the society in a nation and signal it as a proof that something is wrong. These are far more complex than that.
I feel it is ironic: restraint societies have such strict moral standards, but those standards seem to do more harm than good. How can it be morally good to inflict unhappiness, pessimism, and hopelessness upon the People?
Well, this is a philospohical point of course. But you are more likely to get killed in a violent fight in an indulgent society than in a restrained one, so it's not black or white.
@@paulomendes4892 Good question. Across all countries, there is a correlation of indulgence with impulsive actions, including manslaughter. But the Netherlands are an exception on another dimension: masculinity. In a feminine culture, any kind of use of force is less prevalent. So no, we do not have a lot of killing.
***** I also don't believe this IVR dimension.. it doesn't make sense. And doc. Minkov is Bulgarian as me and to write something like this he must be blind and incapable of stating the obvious...
Well, it depends what you compare it with, of course. Italy's culture is restrained compared to the USA, but indulgent copared to South Korea. But most cultures are less restrained. note that most are also more collectivistic - and that can be confusing.
I don't know on what basis India is categorized as restraint society, we have freedom of speech, we have higher birth rate ( or highest we can say), we have obese people everywhere :P , we watch loads of foreign movies and listen songs, our movie theaters are full of Hollywood movies. Few points are there like public affection, love marriage etc which are taboo here in India but otherwise we have indulgence society.
Caste based marriages, beta char log kya kahenge, beta sharmaji ja beta ko dekh le aur kuch seekh. What you explained is upper class/rich people stuff. Poor have no free speech, don't really watch foreign movies. I'm talking about majority, not cities. Forget PDA, love marriage, intercaste marriages are totally shunned. How is it indulgent?
dude that is what I am saying, our country is somewhere between restraint and indulgence society, you can not say its a restraint society. restraint society is like North Korea, Middle east countries where there are lots of restriction, believe me India is a free country, just imagine being born in middle east. HELL!! life.
Comparatively yes, but rarely people compare themselves with the worst. You won't be saying "Oh well, atleast I'm not the last or second last, but I'm third last, so that's much better". No one says that. There is a lot more to improve. We have no dignity of labour too. No or poor labour laws to begin with. We have huge power distances. A lot of issues of our own to solve. Social as well as legal.
Well, one dimension cannot explain everything. you are right about your facts. It can help if you also consider that India has a more individualistic society than many (and more so in affluent parts of society). That goes with individual freedom of choice - not with feelings of relaxation and freedom from obligation.
His work is monumental. A lot of things in every day life can be correlated and explained with his cultural framework
I encounter similar questions in my class to trainees from different countries. The name of the dimension is something they have to jump over first, for they are daily used terms very familiar to everyone. That is why I appreciate Dr. Hofstede open every session by talking about where these concepts came from in the first place and what they mean specifically in cross-cultural comparasons. Even professionals like professors and scientists get confused occasionally in lecturing and discussion on these concepts. But we do not seem to have a choice, intuition is helpful but not always. However, dedbates and doubts from both academics and general public are driving forces for an accurate and precise knowledge of different cultures.
Wow! nicely explained the sixth cultural dimensions in hofstede. I am from India, it seems to be very close to accurate specially for India. But as the generations change and as the people become more globalized, the score of this keeps changing.
These videos are a masterpiece. Thanks Dr. Hofstede for all the work done.
I would like to mention that I noticed one thing on the IvR dimension: Countries that faced war directly into their territories tend to be more restraint.
I'm just a business student and I did not research to support the above sentence, it is an observation from my perspective.
Very true. Countries that have experienced lots of war tend to have high power distance and high uncertainty avoidance as well.
I am writing a paper on the 6 different dimensions and PDI and IND caught my attention the most. Its very interesting learning about the different cultures and different PDI's.
English-speaking countries have very high individualism and fairly low power distance although not as low as places like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Austria.
Informative. Can someone explain an example of short term vs long term orientation between France and Indian culture
3 years
Saudi Arabia is special in that it is low in LTO and high in IVR， unlike any other Arab countries. I am interested in knowing why.
Most oil economy countries are similarly spoiled
not sure how Australia being a High indulgence country have a high birth rate? if anything they are struggling with ageing population and low birth rate.
Birthrate is one of many things that appear to correlate with indulgence scores. It does not mean it is the only indicator/predictor and it also doesn't mean that it's even that important. It may be weighted as far less important than many other factors. It's pointless to point to one part of the society in a nation and signal it as a proof that something is wrong. These are far more complex than that.
I feel it is ironic: restraint societies have such strict moral standards, but those standards seem to do more harm than good. How can it be morally good to inflict unhappiness, pessimism, and hopelessness upon the People?
Well, this is a philospohical point of course. But you are more likely to get killed in a violent fight in an indulgent society than in a restrained one, so it's not black or white.
@@gertjanhofstede a reply full of wisdom
@@gertjanhofstede thats also typical of STO nations.Is that common in Netherlands,killing due to self indulgence?
Intersting thay restraint countries are the most religious
@@paulomendes4892 Good question. Across all countries, there is a correlation of indulgence with impulsive actions, including manslaughter. But the Netherlands are an exception on another dimension: masculinity. In a feminine culture, any kind of use of force is less prevalent. So no, we do not have a lot of killing.
Italy? A low score???
What is italy?
Catholicism
2 more years to go
for? 2 years have passed
Yeah, 2 years for what?!?
Probably college, and by the lack of reply your still doing it?
4 years hi
"...A low score of 30 indicates that Italian culture is one of restraint..." - really???
***** I also don't believe this IVR dimension.. it doesn't make sense. And doc. Minkov is Bulgarian as me and to write something like this he must be blind and incapable of stating the obvious...
the only people who have fun in the mediterranean are nordic tourists
its true,in Portugal lovers dont kiss much in public
I agree Very confused.
Well, it depends what you compare it with, of course. Italy's culture is restrained compared to the USA, but indulgent copared to South Korea. But most cultures are less restrained. note that most are also more collectivistic - and that can be confusing.
I don't know on what basis India is categorized as restraint society, we have freedom of speech, we have higher birth rate ( or highest we can say), we have obese people everywhere :P , we watch loads of foreign movies and listen songs, our movie theaters are full of Hollywood movies. Few points are there like public affection, love marriage etc which are taboo here in India but otherwise we have indulgence society.
Caste based marriages, beta char log kya kahenge, beta sharmaji ja beta ko dekh le aur kuch seekh.
What you explained is upper class/rich people stuff. Poor have no free speech, don't really watch foreign movies. I'm talking about majority, not cities.
Forget PDA, love marriage, intercaste marriages are totally shunned. How is it indulgent?
dude that is what I am saying, our country is somewhere between restraint and indulgence society, you can not say its a restraint society. restraint society is like North Korea, Middle east countries where there are lots of restriction, believe me India is a free country, just imagine being born in middle east. HELL!! life.
Comparatively yes, but rarely people compare themselves with the worst. You won't be saying "Oh well, atleast I'm not the last or second last, but I'm third last, so that's much better". No one says that.
There is a lot more to improve. We have no dignity of labour too. No or poor labour laws to begin with. We have huge power distances. A lot of issues of our own to solve. Social as well as legal.
Well, one dimension cannot explain everything. you are right about your facts. It can help if you also consider that India has a more individualistic society than many (and more so in affluent parts of society). That goes with individual freedom of choice - not with feelings of relaxation and freedom from obligation.
@@gertjanhofstede good point indeed.