When Do You Need To Upgrade Your Ignition Coils? | BMW N54 DIY
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- In this video we discuss a new ignition coil option for the N54. I go over their design and show you how to install them.
These coils are a safe bet for any car making over 450 WHP. It is recommended to use these with colder plugs, ideally 2 steps colder. You could consider the NGK 97506.
It is also recommended to use these on the stock spark dwell in MHD unless you're making over 600 WHP.
I sourced this new ignition coil offering from Spool Performance LLC:
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If you tell them that you watched my video and are interested in a set they'll sell them to you for $399. I'm not making anything from the referral.
It's exciting to have another option for the BMW N54!
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You've been pumping out the content lately... love it! Keep it up, this channel will continue to grow.
Jake, he is getting close to racecar status. Might need some seats too haha
@@nickolascain2994 haha it's a rabbit hole that's hard not to go down once you get so far.
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As long as they get me outside the driveway it’s an upgrade...
I’ve slowly seen the evolution of this n54 channel go from stock maintenance to custom tuning tips and tricks. Great content, keep it up!
Definitely a needed upgrade. I put the duralast coils in as well and anytime i was over 14 psi of bost i was loosing spark and misfiring like crazy. Put the precision raceworks coil kit in and bam no more misfiring. All the way to 17psi on stock turbos
Since you don't wanna name any names my guess is the blue one is a Precision race works coil
Since the owner of precision is in Houston, I'd bet money your right.
This is actually a spool street coil
it could be but the PRw coils have the logo on the side? But i've never seen another blue one either
hmm, either these are not available anymore.. or their website is quite poorly done
i went with the oem eldor coils and for now my misfires have been fixed. im running stage 2+ with 91 oct and i think the eldors should be eliable enough for up to 500 hp since rolls royces use them
eldor is the way to go
So... lots of wrong in this video, I'll try to help. Those aren't anything near LS coils, Google a LS coil and you'll see. Not even close, wires different and everything. Spool and PR are both in Houston, Spool either completely copied the PR design, which is unique from the AEM, or copied the AEM. Their helix is nice, but product is a knock off of others. None of these are an OTS coil. That coil shell is off the shelf as a mercury marine coil that is wound for CDI. You cannot buy these in a store.
The transistor grounds are shared, yes. The drive circuit ground for the coil is different. Injector mosfet fail because of flyback voltage, coil igbt are fine.
For the resistance you're measuring secondary I presume, not primary. You can't measure secondary on OEM coils. Primary resistance is what the DME sees and wouldn't be 8, it should be closer to 0.5ohm. The secondary also isn't 8, it's more like 8,000ohm. Higher is generally better on secondary, but design matters too.
Gap of .019" or .022" I presume you meant, not .19" or .22"
Nice marketing video though.
So what upgraded ignition coils do you recommend for an f87 m2? Fbo.
Hi, I'm trying to buy those coil but I can't find the coil in the website the spool, can you send me the link please.
Same
I don't say this often but your content is sensational, you call it how it is. Keep up the great work
Did Spool stop selling these?
I have the spool ignition kit on my N55 and love it. But it is not a GM or LS coil and never came on any GM vehicle, it's actually based off a Marine coil design. Oh and that hardware will likely rust quick so get some blingware.
How did you buy it? It's not on thier website
Where can I buy them at? I went to the website and it's not there
Awesome content! Just purchased the turbos/turbo install kit/inlets/outlets..going to check these out for sure almost 100 less than the other...
Where did you find the generic coils?
Are these plug n play? I saw another video where he was talking about having to tune your car to run these
I had my ground wire break on that noise filter while wrapping some harness on my car. Could that filter just be deleted?
Spoolperformance.us doesn't seem to show this product on their website
Hidavi I massaged them on Instagram and it looks like they’ve made an agreement with precision raceworks to stop selling them
@@TH3M0NSTR1NU why? Was precision racewerks going to sue them?
I have always wondered if these were worth it and at what point they would be necessary. Well done.
BTW, if you have a Continental HPFP, there have been reports the Spool It overdrive unit will kill it.
Are these kits available for a ls1 engine ? These brackets look much better than the factory ls style brackets.
Duralast shit SUCKS. I would'nt put that cheap shit in my beemer.
I have 07 335 with over 100k miles. I am on bosch spark plugs with OEM coils. FBO tune. No misfires . Scotty Kilmer has video where he changes the spark plugs on n54. He makes a good point about BMW. A lot of plastic on the engine which gets hot. Then they put an insulated cover on top of the valve cover to keep the heat in. What if we ditch the engine cover so it doesn't trap the heat ? I replaced my VC at 100K.
zmanphx I did this. Absolutely no problems yet, just a bit louder BMW noises. Just took of the entire cover as it wouldn’t really fit with my cold air intake on my N55. I also cut down the plastic piece that holds the cabin air filter to mock the M3 style. You just have to get something to stop the rain/car wash from dripping straight from the windshield down onto the hot engine. Weather molding or something to direct everything water related to the sides only.
You didn't talk about smart vs dumb. Imo smart coils are better. I run Audi/vw coilpacks. Ngk makes em.
I did mention it when referring to R8 coils at one part of the video. My next video is going to be on upgrading the MOSFETs in the DME for early cars with the MSD80 ECU. Smart coils could potentially save you burning out a MOSFET, I'm not sure how much power the Audi coils can support.
Vehicular DIY they support about 700 to the wheels.
Nice, good to know thanks.
I went with the Audi coils from Bimmer life, unbelievable now smooth the car runs and idles. Which plugs do you use and what gap are you running ?
@@quik5ltr With BL coils I run the NGK iridiums 95770s (not sure if the product name is still the same) @ out the box gap of .25. That's FBO stock turbo's on mhd stage 2+. When I finally install my stage 3 hybrids i'll try .22 or .20
Sounds like the rabbit is not worth the chase. Not like your getting paid to win races
9 months later and there are NO coil options on spoolstreet - not these, not the R8, nothing :(
Lots of inaccurate information in regards to the DME...
The only problems MSD80 ever have are with the injector mosfets and for the past few years random people have been claiming that after market coils caused Injector mosfets to fail which is 100% false. These 2 circuits are not directly shared, and the issue with injector mosfet failures have been occurring for the past decade long before any performance coils existed. Unfortunately people trust what the read on forums or hear in youtube videos even if false and then they share what they have heard with others and those people believe it as well. You can rest assured the drivers for the ignition system which is not a mosfet at all it is an IGBT will not ever fail due to coils. If you do have a failure it will be for an injector mosfet which will fail on you anyways regardless of if you upgrade coils or not and when it does fail the failure will be unrelated to the ignition coils you run.
Well it happened literally right after I selected the option in MHD to increase the spark dwell. A weak power supply in the ecu is the underlying issue. The coils demand too much current and the transistors that drive the injectors overwork due to limited power being available while the coils are working hard.
would u ever put seaform or b-12 in your n54?
Bad info here. These ARENT LS coils, they’re IGN-1A Mercury Marine coils! The mercury coils are in a totally different league, as they operate efficiently over a WIDE range of ignition dwell settings. You won’t get LS coils to produce full spark on BMW dwell settings, BUT the IGN-1A will produce more ignition power than the LS coil on OEM BMW dwell. Adjust the dwell and they get even better. I PRAY nobody bought LS coils on his advice. The AEM coils are IGN-1A mercury coils as well
will they work on n52?
If your going to need coils like that shouldn't you be getting a professional custom tune?
By the times coils like this would be required you'd likely already have a custom tune. Even stock turbo on ethanol etc.
Can’t find this spool bracket and kit?
There website does not show these coils anymore.
hands down the most informative N54 content on youtube. thanks for helping the community!
Very informative videos you post
Have you tried the coils from Ignition Projects USA? I don't make any money promoting them, but they work well on my S54. Here's the ones for N54: www.ignitionprojectsusa.com/collections/bmw/products/ip-coil-for-bmw-135i-335i-535i-n54-turbo-sku-ip-a122606
Another great upgrade! Dutch regards.
My Friend, can you tell me if the NGK Ignition coil and NGK Lase Iridium 97506 the best for N54 engine?
My car: Z4 2015 N54 3.0 E89
Hi , great content.. why did you change them to the R8 coils ? :)
To actually push more power, they've been serving me well.
@@VehicularDIY Can I use them on my f87 m2?
Would you change your stock coils on an unmodified engine ( 140000km) preemptivly just for maintance?
Their supposed to be changed every 30,000 miles/ 50,000 KM on an unmodified car. No need to upgrade IMO unless you plan to push beyond 450 whp in the near future.
Not necessarily, it might not hurt to have one new coils with you as a spare. If you're going to tune it then yes they should be changed but stock I wouldn't worry.
I want to know where to get the spark plug boots and connectors,help a brother out bouts to build my own kit too
Nice… nothing to code I noticed
I clicked the link, that website had nothing for N54 in regards to coils. Personally, I would highly recommend precision raceworks coils.
They are red. I am sold.
That $399 deal still live?
What about the eldor coils?
Mas acción y menos bla bla
Would you happen to know how the cold start on the n54 works? I had a single turbo kit installed and the car hasn't done that elevated rpm cold start since.
Gatling33 I have the same issue man
@@jay002navarro That sucks. I still haven't figured it out yet.
Gatling33 it’s mapped out by your tuner, if ur running mhd or jb4 u can turn it back on
@@br4d101 Thnx. I actually figured out how to enable it by comparing the stock map to the BEF map in Tuner Pro.
Any idea when this product will be available for sale? I checked the website in the link and unfortunately its not listed in their BMW products. Thanks in advance! Really interested in ordering this kit before i order my single turbo.
Enjoy all your videos. Very informative! Could this possibly be fitted to n62 V8 supercharged running over 15# of boost? 500-600hp? We run the same
Pencil style coils but I’m sure at this stage I need something more than my eldor oem coils. Ignition projects seems like the front runner but not sure on them because of cost. Any information is appreciated!
Ever think about running a crank case breather? Im running one...well i have it it's going on this spring with all my other goodies...👍🏁
Do we have coil upgrade for n52 engine. Like x3 e83 3.0si inline 6 n52 engine? Thank you.
hi v-diy, another awesome video, I guess I am one of your fortunate follower as we have the same engine and be able to learn from you. I will be buying the same coil pack and using NGK laser iridium spark plug 95770 - what is your "spark gap" recommendation for this setup. I know you mentioned it, but I hoping you could type your specs here. Again, Thanks, EriqM from Toronto, ON Canada.
I’m going to try these coils, I’m going for reliability. I’m not running any Tune. Thinks for your videos .
I just got a stock 328i xdrive and I got some Pro-Formance coils is that a bad thing if its all stock or is it ok
Hi
I have a misfire on my n63 engine.
Am thinking to do the same for this engine so do you recommend?
From where I can purchase those coils?
If it fails quite often even with free replacement, but it is hassle to replace it. It is normal for its failure due to burnt coil.
i've been using the precision raceworks coils for awhile, same exact setup. I did have a coil plug fail, had to purchase x6 new ones but been great since.
Anyone using ECS built Performance updated coil?
I’m stock but want to do preventative maintenance are these a good option?
Will this upgrade work on a n52
Go with the B58 coils
dose it affect the ecu also when im on stock settings and puting dose red coils in ?
Love the idea to bad there not offering anymore.
Get Precision Raceworks coils its the same thing same price
Respect To your channel i think it's really good content. Great vids all the time.
So moving from pencil coils to coil and wires ? It’s almost like having a distributor with rotor and contacts plus the capacitor 😂
So at the end of the day... the take away is there is nothing special with these coils?
hmmmmm....I'm running Delphi coil packs at 453 wheel with no issue
Any new coils for n52? No, I didn't think so.
Hello! About the wires, where do you get them? (For what car?)
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Cool
Man you are upgrading every corner of that BMW love it. Maybe you should install an aftermarket infotainment system and add better sounding speakers and subs 😁
Great product, and great video, just one thing thats slightly off though. The position of the coils where the harness is crossing with the spark plug wire. When you do that, you have a higher chance of misfire because of the high current going through the spark plug wire creating a type of a magnetic field and will disrupt the 5 volt signal from the DME to command the coil to fire the spark
The actual installation is at 14:00
You’re welcome
I am on MHD2+, so around 400whp, below 500 for sure, I have those coils installed, you are saying I should not switch over to them in MHD?
If you have enough spark dwell where it's not misfiring then yeah no need to tell MHD to drive them harder as that can be harder on the ECU.
Hope you see this: My car continues to smoke but I'm 100% sure some of my injector(s) are stuck open and/or leaking. When I fire it up cold start it doesn't throw any codes but I hear crackles and pops constantly until the cycle is over. Driving to work today with oil temps still beloe 160F I saw smoke out the tail pipes but it stops. Coming home now, on a very hot day, it smokes more when up to operating temps but it happens both when cold and hot. New turbos, new valve cover, new coils, spark plugs, secondary cats in place, new HPFP, primary 02 sensors, you name it. Catless downpipes but with secondarys still there as mentioned. ALSO, when shifting from 1st, to 2nd and sometimes third, a normal backfire is normal since I have burble to 1 second on soft, but SOMETIMES it backfires so fucking loud it scares me. Im thinking too much fuel is being dumped from one or more injectors causing this.
Anyway, my bank 2 index 12s were new in mid 2017 but my Bank 1 was replaced with some sketchy 12s but I'm almost sure one or two are slightly stuck open causing white smoke since im not burning oil OR losing coolant. AT ALL.
Thoughts? Recommendations? Im thinking of buying a whole bank and replacing bank 1 then going from there, I highly doubt my bank two is the problem since they were BRAND NEW in early 2017.
The car also hesitates on acceleration so I'm almost sure it's the injectors. My last thought is could the fuel pressure regulator cause the smoke? or just the hesitation. Im at 138k KMS (85k miles) Defintely not a head gasket.
Thanks man, hope you see this, appreciate the help.
Have you put in a new PCV valve? I'm guessing that was taken care of with the valve cover?
My 2008 e90 335i was manufactured in January. Came with MSD81 DME. However I’m not sure if that was the original DME since I was not able to talk to the previous owner. Also was fitted with index 12s
yeah I think I have a late 2007 production and ended up with an MDS80. Yeah good thing you already have 12s, that'll save you a tone of money.
Slather up those coil boots. They'll melt to your plug tops.
I can't figure out how to buy these. Not on thier website
Good information in this video. I agree with what @Jake Spence said as well.
Hey buddy. Am I Getting these confused with something else but do these need to be coded with the car / auto box ?
I'm getting a miss fire code at the moment and looking at upgrading to some hybrids in the next couple of weeks so it would make sense to replace the OEM with these and the sparks that you have another video with ?
Tuning the car specifically for these is not needed but it will aid in performance. There is a check mark in MHD for upgraded couls
Does anyone know how long the last? Is it cheaper than using Delphi coils?
When I go single I’ll definitely jump on this. I’ll keep my Delphis for now since I think I bought them for about 18 bucks each on amazon as “used” from amazon warehouse. They were all brand new, just customer returns I assume.
Curious why you don’t film your test drives? Some pulls in the videos will be nice. Also I might have to try these coils out I had some from another vendor before but I was having problems with them ended up returning it and just going with stock coils.
Yeah I have tried but typically with a go pro and the quality is pretty crap so I don't bother including it.
Can’t find the coils in the website. Please assist
Thank you for your post it helps a new person like myself on what routes I should go to achieve and maintain my beloved N54 Twin Turbo.
be careful they dont dildo your engine
So spool doesn’t sell them any more???
Please contact me, I have a few questions regarding the LSD kit and stuff, please and thank you.
You can find my email address in the contact section.
I don’t see it on website for these ignition coils
is it me or i cant find these on spool website?
Do I need to tune to runs these coils
Hey I live in the Houston area we’re area you based man?
I'm in Houston too.
Any noticable performance or fuel evonomy gains since install?
I'm running a set of Audi coils now and I notice a difference in performance when running E85. You will find a video on my channel regarding the Audi R8 coil coversion.
Unnecessary talking
how's your turbos doing? I may be getting a set from them soon. And as always love the videos!
Why didnt you opt for the Precision Racing coil pack kits?
I wanted to show you guys something new.
What's. A Ms81 where does it go how do I upgrade it please
MSD81 came out with LCI models, it's the DME or ECU and it has an upgraded power rail and transistors so you don't burn them up.
So I’ve seen people use R8 coils are those a lot better than stock?
This seem super easy to install. This guy is the best for the BMW N54 community.
Thanks, maybe someone can chime in with regards to how much power they support. I'm not quite sure how much power they can generate.
Most have gone the easy route of using precision coils aka your same Gm style. But the majority that have look into stock simplicity have gone with R8 coils because the Same coils are use Lamborghini V10 Twin turbo and support over 1500hp . Those are offer by Bimmerlife are little expensive just for the harness but if you can read and figure out Systematic from a 3 wire to 4 wires you can save $300 and buy the coils under $160 can be found everywhere online. Here is the link where I had it running in mine . m.th-cam.com/video/k5t7lThFyxY/w-d-xo.html
Video on point as always, I'll be picking this kit up! Thanks!👌👍💪😎
Will these work for n55? I will buy them ASAP
I have them on my E90 N55 but had to work around some things since the N55 kit was designed for the F series N55 cars.