Very well thought out, a great hypothesis or WAG. It certainly is as much possible as any other guesses, and provides one more reason to keep looking!!!
maybe we'll find out in the new season of Curse Of Oak Island starting november 10th!!!!!!! i love that show but man, the recap after every commercial is slowly killing me.
Look up ram pumps and also Heron`s Fountain in Wikipedia and apply it to oak island on a much larger scale and for a very practical purpose.The swamp was a drydock/shipyard for careening ships hulls,hence the pine tar kiln(wattle and pitch caulking).In the mid 1700`s,British ships were among the first to use copper sheeting on the bottom of the hulls for anti-fouling,so the pine tar kiln could go back as far as Templar builders,(but also used by Spanish and French sailors and a few pirates) who would have had the skills,manpower and reason to build what I suggested.I think there were possibly Vikings in the area even before that.I also think that later on pirates found the place to be perfect for several reasons.It is a rather mind blowing fact that it lines up perfectly with Versailles and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.I think the money pit was part of the pumping out system for the dry dock,and gives a valid reason for the cobbled area in the swamp and why it is so level.When a ship is rested on it`s keel it`s very important to support the vessel evenly so it does not twist or break the hull and you also need to keep it out of the mud so it does not get stuck when the water level drops.Oxen were used to pull the ships in onto the stone causeway.This allowed for ships to be worked on without the rising and falling tides being the critical factor in careening and working on external ship repairs below the water line.They could easily dismantle or store ships on land and even build them from scratch there since Oak for ship building and cork oak were found growing on the island,which were not the native red oak and had to have been growing sometime prior to 1600 by a couple hundred years.This site pre-dates Columbus `s discovery which is very significant,as is Viking explorers in the area from around 1000 AD.These are all seafaring peoples who`s ships were vital to their lives everyday,so of course a shipyard would be a necessity at the other side of the world if getting back was as important as getting there to begin with.There likely what remains a dismantled and burned ship buried in the mud of the swamp...who it might have belonged to is another story altogether...but I`ll leave that for some other time.
You are the closest I have seen to knowing what happened. Yes Two islands and a drydock between them. The Mainland was then a dangerous place with hostile locals so being isolated offshore gave the sailors protection but they lacked fresh water. So they started digging a well. Guess what happened, they struck gold, now they had gold fever and dug deeper and deeper dumping the sand into the "Swamp". They had problems sealing the mine and keeping it clear of water so they tried elaborate methods of pumping and settled on Air pockets in side chambers of submerged tunnels. Who had such technology? I know.
I agree with your theory...its very good...so im thinking along the lines that if the entrance is in the swamp and u can go down then im thinking the way to plug the seawater is from within...block it off and then go down to the treasure...just what I think...because the seawater tunnels seem to go down so if the entrance is above the sea-level then it only makes sense to me that u go in and then go down and block it to keep being able to go down!!
Thanks a bunch Susie! I agree, I believe somewhere on or under the island is a valve type object, as it was listed on the old French map. There must be some way to turn off or block the water.
I always found it interesting that in every overhead shot of the swamp, the vegetation is arranged symmetrically. That detail has never been brought up on the show.
They have, they brought it up last year, they found remnants of a clay mine and giant stones as well as super old oak roots and evidence it was once covered in sea water
Really cool theory and great animations that really give a great visual! Thanks for all your hard work! It's too bad we lost Fred Noland and Dan Blankenship too soon, but thankful we have Rick and Marty to carry the torch, they're going to figure this out I have faith in their team. Season 8 lets go!!!
Always watched this show with my grandpa before he passed, and now more recently with my grandma. This show means a lot to me and it's cool to see all the other people that care and don't think it's all crazy! Let's keep supporting Rick and Marty on their journey, they aren't giving up and we can't either!
great video i will show this to demonstrate part of the oak island story to ppl who are trying to understand it sometimes people who are not familiar with the story dont get it at first with such a big long convoluted history
This seems like a strategy that may have been used many times... I'd be interested in any single island that looks like there's a low, marshy section in the middle of it
I like your theory. The Money Pit wasn't a ruse at the beginning. I believe it was originally an air shaft for air circulation for the mine. The entrance, somewhere else on the island was large enough to draw the outside air into the mine causing the Money Pit/ air shaft to help expel the Carbon Dioxide and the smoke from torches. Mining between the two islands is very complex. My theory is much more simple. The island to the right of the swamp wasn't there at first. It was man-made out of what was pulled out of the mine.
just thought this the other day well, some of it i figured the 90ft stone's inscriptions were some form of instruction but those that didn't know the code would keep digging thus the trap for invaders
@@geoffreyjones2000 there's so much more to this story than we all know. I hope the lagina brothers can shed some light on all of this. I feel like I'm invested in that place and I've never even been there. 🤣
Great video, i agree with your theory as well. In the area u showed the stone platform they found evidence of a clay mine as well. Interestingly the 3 young men who found the money pit are all related to some of the original Scottish settlers that were first on record of going to/ owning or populating Nova Scotia (New Scotland) and some of those ancestors were involved in not only the crusades but also the Knights Templar. From the Book Oak Island 1632 by James A. McQuiston, FSA Scot.
Thanks a bunch! And great information too! Doesn't surprise me, as most presidents are related. It always seems to be about bloodlines, going back thousands of years.
The local MicMac Tribe have oral stories of a foreigner who would "hold court", which is obviously not a First Nation term. As well, the oral history talks of how they "helped him build his island". This foreigner of whom they speak was Mr. Sinclair of Knights Templar fame.
I didn't know that, awesome thinking! I always felt it was beyond coincidence that the Micmac "battle flag" was a mirror image of the Templar flag. It was so obvious that the 2 groups had to have met and even worked with each other.
Now you can't also forget that since the West side of the island is more stone compact and the east side is looser they could use that stone to reinforce the walls that conjoined the 2 islands and used the western side as an underground quarry. Edit* There could be like what you said either a another or the real treasure on the west side if you really think about why would you put the treasure on the eastern side where the ground has a deeper bed rock and the soil is much softer. Where on the west side it would be so much harder to dig straight down without traveling through the original tunnels that "may" or "may not" reside there. They need to do an extensive radar read out of the western side (like what they did with the easternside)that would support or denounce any of these theories. But remember back in season 6 I believe Dan Blankenship used a dowsing technique on the western side forgive me I can't remember where exactly but I do remember he did find a few anomalies perhaps this supports the theory I cant remember if they investigated any further on it, but as hazardous as the money pit is i think they need to shift their focus more to researching the western side and more excavating in the swamp whether they go anywhere or not either way if they don't which I highly doubt it. But if they don't it would at least be worth crossing something off the board. Keep in mind I'm just a 17 year old farm boy who only researches this stuff as a hobby so take my "thoughts" with a grain of salt.
Everything you said makes perfect sense and I agree with you. I started getting into all this type of stuff at the age of 16, but that was almost 40 years ago. They say it takes a lifetime to understand the universe and become devine. I see why. Best advice I can give, search TH-cam for the Lost Book of Enki. There's a 14 hour translation from Ancient Astronaut Archive, but he also does shorter summary videos. For me it was one of the best eye openers connecting our past to present.
Your presentation does you credit, very credible & logical (with all known facts). There is a lot of ships timbers at such a great though ?? Also after Friday 13th & the Knight Templar finances 'disappearing' the Cantons of Switzerland would soon unite taking a 'reverse colours' Templar flag for their new Confederacy . Yes the Templars fleet had already sailed from La Rochelle (The finances however would have been spread out all over Europe , a time factor favours movement to Switzerland), the 'Object' returned from the Holy Land ETC, would again be easily shipped out - to either Oak Island or Roslin Chapel - the fleet had split into two - Heads or Tails - OR BOTH.
Yeah. I think there's proof of them splitting up after 1307. They probably gathered in Scotland first to discuss their mission, then fanned out to Switzerland, Portugal, North America, and some probably stayed in Scotland. There was also a stone dug up on a farm in Wisconsin that had Templar writing and the date of 1362, so I think some went west and then south towards Mexico.
@@jmacd41 sorry, I keep saying Wisconsin but it's Minnesota. Here a link for one video, but like Oak Island, everyone has their opinions. th-cam.com/video/4PJZp9N1-zo/w-d-xo.html
Great video! On the show, they should use more of these animated explanations. If a person hasn’t watched for a while, it can be hard to “see” all the details and they always show the same animations.
The road in front of the swamp did not exist until around the 1930s. Before that what is known today as the swamp was wide open to Mahone Bay, a shallow cove at high tide that emptied out at low tide ... The outline of Oak Island was much different before the road was put in , from the outline of Oak Island today which includes the road ....
That is the ultimate question! With a complicated answer. The short answer is I believe the Templars discovered not only gold under Temple Mount, but important knowledge meant to be kept from the masses. Some of that knowledge was how the ancients worked so well with stone. But they also learned why gold is so important, and decided they had to hide it and keep it safe. Keep in mind most pirates were Templars/Freemasons as well, who intercepted gold being brought back to Europe and hid it in different locations.
Has anyone given thought to that what if being two islands they were also smaller an. After digging some tunnels they some how brought in dirt an rock an filled an built up the island more so that you could have more space to hide dig an whatever else
Erin Helton and Zena Helper are right about 1713 Map.... it's under E3 at the bottom of Nolan's Cross. And oh BTW the was already a recovery in the past to retrieve the wealth and bulk of the treasures. They were used to incite the Revolution of a small meline 13 colonies.
Why go through that much trouble hiding something that nobody including yourself can ever get to again? Why not just dig a big whole, put the treasure in, cover it with dirt and roll a big boulder over it? This way if you need it you can get to it.
I think it's more elaborate than that. There probably are hidden entrances somewhere. I think that old hand drawn French map eluded to a valve, which is weird because that hints at being able to turn water flow on and off. But I hear what you are saying.
so if u put a hexagon over the pyramid, you'd know exactly where 2 dig right away as well. how's fred nolan's cross involved in that? and also, the eagle on the dollar bill is gazing 2 the left w/the hexagon above his head in stars. i'm pushing it, haha--anyway, amazing you dreamt this.
Think about it because bad bacteria was released when the tombs were opened at the pyramids. Think about how many pandemics have been around and killedr hundreds thousands of people and no idea where it came from. Wash that around in your brain just saying.
I love this hookum and your video is interesting and feasible apart from ‘ siphoning ‘ all that trapped sea water. As I watch your theory unfold the big question is ‘ why on earth would anyone undertake such an elaborate binding place for ‘treasure ‘ Yes we know the Egyptians designed and constructed devious methods to prevent looting of the tombs etc. However they had as many slaves to undertake such work. Still not convinced such a venture would have been necessary; why not just bury it as was the tradition ?
The recent discovery of the paved road which they seem to think was made to transport treasure to the money pit . What if to your point it was transport earth from the dig to the swamp not leaving a suspicious mound by the pit and also back filling the swamp to conceal workings there..
Yes! Funny you say that, as a couple years ago my wife spotted a line of low lying trees from the swamp to money pit area. We posted last November on a Facebook Oak Island group page a series of photos of this. And then this year they dig the road there. I think the same thing, that a road was used during construction. I also think the island was used for 2-3 centuries, and then they covered up all evidence. Really appreciate your comment!
Ok cool video. But.... The eye of the swamp is an enigma and this method does not explain why they eye perpetually fills with water as if it is connected to the sea in the same way (possibly) as the money pit appears to be. In several episodes they have given away the odd one liner about the eye, and I suspect looking at it as a clay pit isn’t the end of it. If the stone road actually goes to the eye that would beg the question why, as there is a stone platform up to and around it. If tunnels were dug either side into the island from there they would start at the level of the platform which is a foot above current sea level if I recall that correctly. The stone platform was created in the 1200s as thats the date for the creation of the swamp, the dating was from wood under the platform near the eye. It should be a relatively easy thing to locate tunnels leading off of the swamp by radar etc Which would suggest an almighty effort with medieval tech to create this feature let alone the tunnelling although if you look at medieval warfare tunnelling and undermining of castle walls etc they knew their stuff but the swamp? Where’s the parallels for this in that time period. And sacrificing ships to do it, suggests a fleet and the possibility people knew they weren’t going home large workforce no transport. Which in turn suggests something like this endeavour would have been recorded somewhere surely? It all smacks of very disciplined and very well trained operations and regardless of what time period that would have been a military operation. If it’s an island that was known about as a suitable secret place to hide stuff it would be unique and 800 years of manipulation would mean a continuous thread of knowledge about the island and what’s there passing on through many generations. My point is there must be a written record if it somewhere and the most complete continuous record kept that might be relevant is either the Spanish or English admiralty records. The Scots will have some records prior to union. The French may have some records although revolutions tend to mean stuff gets binned. It surprises me no documentary work features in the program instead there are various theories put forward, none of which appears to have studied these research sources in any depth. Or perhaps they have and there is simply nothing. Which would be a great mystery in itself. With the amount of manpower and organisation required it would have cost money to equip and send off that many to do the work. Someone would have signed off the expense. Anyway great vid and thank you for putting it together, but where does the eye fit in?
Great questions, I wish I had answers to. Personally I believe plans and basic construction started in the late 1300's, after being chased out of Europe, and remained under construction and used as a repository, not depository, for the next 3-4 centuries. Much like today's Freemasons remain secret, the Templars were similar. There will not be public logs of this. Of the thousands of Templars that existed, only a few hundred would have been part of Oak Island. Many Templar groups scattered world wide, in an effort to preserve our gold and books of lost knowledge. Many became pirates that would intercept the gold returning to Europe. Which is why I think Oak Island will still hold treasures from many different cultures and time periods. Part of the "lost knowledge" are secrets of stone and building, which they were very good at. Like the recently discovered tunnel in France that went from a Templar fortress all the way to the ocean front. I'm not sure of the purpose of the eye, I only hope it will be discovered. If you're not familiar with "The Book of Enki", I would check it out. It all ties together.
I definitely think the swamp is man made and there are dams at both ends. I also believe there is still a ship, or part of one, in ghe swamp. I never thought about tunneling in from the shore of the swamp, but it would make sense.
If i had spent most of my life trying to find treasure only to fail i would be a bit niffed and protective of my work so before i filled the hole in i would put a few tit bits down to to make it interesting for the next treasure hunt to come along which in a weird way keeps there project on track,also keeps legacy going when they die which keep's there memory alive also about there intrepid exploits
Plz explain how all this work was done without machinery. That is very elaborate work. I truly hope they find something of great value because my watching will be in vane
Thanks for watching! Templars were expert stone workers and mason's. I believe they built many of their castles and fortresses in Europe, plus it was discovered they had made tunnel system to connect these as well as tunnels to the shorelines for quick escape in at least one French fortress. And thus the name change from Templar to Freemason in the later years.
I absolutely love th bros n this show. My Bro n I watch together n then compare notes th next day over lunch. Th bros have dumped lg mounts of cash to feed their curiosity... n mine😻
To begin with the sea levels at Oak Island would have been 3-5 feet lower during the time period that a treasure would have been deposited and the ships would draft over 10 feet of water (15 is more likely), so the swamp simply wasn't deep enough to float a ship even if it was open to the sea at the time which it was not. We know that the swamp was not an open channel because the swamp sediments were dated to around 1200 AD, that's about 400 years too soon for the dates of any of the wood that has been found in the money pit area. You have to pay attention to what physical evidence is available when you produce a theory and make sure your theory is consistent with the physical evidence. You couldn't quite figure out how they would get water out of the swamp. All the would have to do is dig a hole in the bar separating the swamp from the sea and let it drain, because it would have been about 5 feet above sea level at the time. High tide would still be a problem.
I watched the Shakespeare Code documentary thing about Oak Island On youtube and man...it blew my mind. This genius guy who makes his own Cypher books said that the codes hidden in this certain first printing of Shakespeare's entire works has to have been put there on purpose, which tells me that it is real.. The hidden stuff all points to Rosicrucian codes and really fascinating stuff, where the vault on Oak Island could house Holy Treasures the Templars had hidden. Everyone should look into that theory it is awesome...very eye opening
@@MetalMikeandPersis I posted the link to the first part on YT as its free but I have also seen the same doc advertised for a price! Thank you for your videos great content!
I think they should strip mine it, but I’m sure the government wouldn’t allow that just to find oodles of treasure and change history. At least they finally got to looking in the swamp. Great video!!
You? I read a book when I was 9. And then Leonard Nemoy had the original 1/2hr novelty show “In search of”. Now I’m over 50. If these guys go broke, I’ll donate for even another shovel full. And then another.
Great theory! I am puzzled as to why the brothers are spending so much time, money and effort on the money pit. All they have found there is old timber and miniature scraps of this and that, nothing that would induce me to spend another penny on it with no evidence that there is anything there. Definitely concentrate on the swamp, they have already found timber from a possible Spanish galleon and what looks to be a stone jetty. Why else build a jetty unless to unload a ship?
@@MetalMikeandPersis If the money pit is just a red herring, or a distraction, why draw attention to the area? If the theory of horizontal tunnels from the swamp is correct, then there is no evidence of them, so why build a money pit to distract, when all it will do is lure people to it? No money pit: nothing to see, tunnels are safe and sound. The money pit and flood tunnels are too elaborate and complex just to be a distraction, the labour needed would have been huge. I think the money pit was a real treasure store, whether holding pirates' booty or buried by the mutinous crew of a galleon. The only way to get answers is by exploring more .
@@binnins1982 Doesn't make sense, at least to me, to put priceless treasure in an unrecoverable state. One then must ask what's the point. The only thing I can believe is that a grave, would be in an unrecoverable situation to ensure no disturbance. There are so many fantasies about what "might be there", none of which lead to un-recoverability. Knights Templar - want to keep their treasures for religious use, pirates - want to keep their treasure to use for lavish/foolish expenditures, crown jewels - needed for succession of royals. Horizontal, above water table tunnels, this videos describe, work better for such treasure since they are recoverable.
Ye the rope and pully seemed wrong to me not something you would have done hiding valuables unless to put hunters off the trail .The rest seems very logical and a sensible use of resources and labour .
IMO, much of what you say here is in the right general direction! I'd encourage people to check out the channel called "DOT to DOT" to get your mind blown on this.
Lidar technology may solve this. It has been successful in uncovering lost cities worldwide. They conduct it from the air and is now used extensively in archaeology. Also satellite investigative methods have been very helpful.
ja stimmt! ich frage mich was die laginas eigentlich machen-immer das gegenteil was richtig ist-was meint Ihr?Ich habe einen Teil vom Schatz -vollkommen unverstaendlich was Diese Zenas HUMBUG MAPS sollen diese wurden in den 60 er Jahren von meinem Vater als Scherz plaziert da Frau Halpern niemals Ruhe gab... Das ist Fact und die Wahrheit! Aber immerhin weiss ich woher mein Scahtz kommt von Qak Island Thank you very much ! Greatings from my Temple Castle in germany Chevalier suzanna anna
Or he looked at this map and could tell that the swamp portion of the island looks modified or man made somehow . Kind of like you can see the difference between a field that has never been plowed and one that has been disturbed even once in the last 100 years . YES , you can tell with a trained eye .
Rick and Marty theese last 2 seasons are aiming toward that area they think there's a ship in the swamp and they found trace of gold in the water by the area in your animation showed they I think are going to dig there drain the swamp etc they are on the right path......... Finally
Like you, I've been a big fan since it started. Hope they get some answers this year, but it was probably a slow year for them with all that's been going on since April. Thanks for stopping by!
Clever......but its kinda sus, that they had yo have worked on it for so many years, and left nothing but that pully? And it stayed unknown for ao long....... i think theres more
I believe the block and tackle left over the pit was a decoy that said "Hey, dig here!" Can we really believe that those building this intricate system of tunnels "accidently forgot" to remove the pulley? No, it was a tripwire decoy designed to set in motion the series of flooding devices, etc. protect whatever was hidden. There is certainly a "backdoor" to the tunnel system.
hey nice theory👍👍 i have an metaldetecting channel , and i would like to share this video, if it is okay with you?? i will of cause link to your channel
Hi WCD, you're going to hate me now, but I misunderstood. I thought you meant share the video on social media or such, but not reposting the video on your channel. Would you mind taking it down? Very sorry!
@@MetalMikeandPersis I’ve done Oak Island for way over 30 years now. It’s 99% wishful thinking mixed with pure fantasy and 1% real facts and hard evidence. This is no mystery for me any more. I still like the mythical aspect of it though and still a fan of the place. Could it be?👍🏻
This is the most plausible theory I have heard. I, too, was always suspicious of the oak tree and the pulley.
Thanks so much Samuhel!
You should probably tag the Lagina brothers as throughout the seasons of the show they are always open to theories.
Very well thought out, a great hypothesis or WAG. It certainly is as much possible as any other guesses, and provides one more reason to keep looking!!!
Thank you very much, appreciate it!
maybe we'll find out in the new season of Curse Of Oak Island starting november 10th!!!!!!! i love that show but man, the recap after every commercial is slowly killing me.
Right! We found treasure mate 💕
Look up ram pumps and also Heron`s Fountain in Wikipedia and apply it to oak island on a much larger scale and for a very practical purpose.The swamp was a drydock/shipyard for careening ships hulls,hence the pine tar kiln(wattle and pitch caulking).In the mid 1700`s,British ships were among the first to use copper sheeting on the bottom of the hulls for anti-fouling,so the pine tar kiln could go back as far as Templar builders,(but also used by Spanish and French sailors and a few pirates) who would have had the skills,manpower and reason to build what I suggested.I think there were possibly Vikings in the area even before that.I also think that later on pirates found the place to be perfect for several reasons.It is a rather mind blowing fact that it lines up perfectly with Versailles and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.I think the money pit was part of the pumping out system for the dry dock,and gives a valid reason for the cobbled area in the swamp and why it is so level.When a ship is rested on it`s keel it`s very important to support the vessel evenly so it does not twist or break the hull and you also need to keep it out of the mud so it does not get stuck when the water level drops.Oxen were used to pull the ships in onto the stone causeway.This allowed for ships to be worked on without the rising and falling tides being the critical factor in careening and working on external ship repairs below the water line.They could easily dismantle or store ships on land and even build them from scratch there since Oak for ship building and cork oak were found growing on the island,which were not the native red oak and had to have been growing sometime prior to 1600 by a couple hundred years.This site pre-dates Columbus `s discovery which is very significant,as is Viking explorers in the area from around 1000 AD.These are all seafaring peoples who`s ships were vital to their lives everyday,so of course a shipyard would be a necessity at the other side of the world if getting back was as important as getting there to begin with.There likely what remains a dismantled and burned ship buried in the mud of the swamp...who it might have belonged to is another story altogether...but I`ll leave that for some other time.
You are the closest I have seen to knowing what happened. Yes Two islands and a drydock between them. The Mainland was then a dangerous place with hostile locals so being isolated offshore gave the sailors protection but they lacked fresh water. So they started digging a well. Guess what happened, they struck gold, now they had gold fever and dug deeper and deeper dumping the sand into the "Swamp". They had problems sealing the mine and keeping it clear of water so they tried elaborate methods of pumping and settled on Air pockets in side chambers of submerged tunnels. Who had such technology? I know.
Fascinating! This is super close to where I live
Lucky! If I lived near Oak Island, I'd be metal detecting every day! 😄
@@MetalMikeandPersis haha they’ve got that island pretty secure now
I believe that! But I'd do nearby shorelines and other islands if I had permission.
I agree with your theory...its very good...so im thinking along the lines that if the entrance is in the swamp and u can go down then im thinking the way to plug the seawater is from within...block it off and then go down to the treasure...just what I think...because the seawater tunnels seem to go down so if the entrance is above the sea-level then it only makes sense to me that u go in and then go down and block it to keep being able to go down!!
Thanks a bunch Susie! I agree, I believe somewhere on or under the island is a valve type object, as it was listed on the old French map. There must be some way to turn off or block the water.
Great Video! I believe this theory is the best way to discover the real place of treasure!
How was the earth moving job carried out by two or three ship crew members with primitive tools then?
Do you have any idea how many crew members are on a ship back then? There could easily be 100 men on one ship.
I always found it interesting that in every overhead shot of the swamp, the vegetation is arranged symmetrically. That detail has never been brought up on the show.
They have, they brought it up last year, they found remnants of a clay mine and giant stones as well as super old oak roots and evidence it was once covered in sea water
@@dawnpalmby5100 ya, I know about all that... it’s just the symmetrical vegetation hasn’t been addressed
@@omlettedufromage8588I noticed that to, It look like the plants were planted in rows
@@timwade4397 yes exactly... probably not a big deal, but I always thought it should have been addressed or explained
right exactly
I believe you are exactly right, this is what I have believed to be the case for the last (almost) 3 years!
Thank you Richard!
Really cool theory and great animations that really give a great visual! Thanks for all your hard work! It's too bad we lost Fred Noland and Dan Blankenship too soon, but thankful we have Rick and Marty to carry the torch, they're going to figure this out I have faith in their team. Season 8 lets go!!!
Always watched this show with my grandpa before he passed, and now more recently with my grandma. This show means a lot to me and it's cool to see all the other people that care and don't think it's all crazy! Let's keep supporting Rick and Marty on their journey, they aren't giving up and we can't either!
Awesome comment, thanks so much Ryan!
great video i will show this to demonstrate part of the oak island story to ppl who are trying to understand it sometimes people who are not familiar with the story dont get it at first with such a big long convoluted history
😱 I thought of the plug idea too! Cool!
This seems like a strategy that may have been used many times... I'd be interested in any single island that looks like there's a low, marshy section in the middle of it
Excellent theory! You should send this to the History Channel.
Nice video, November 10th season 8...I can't wait
I like your theory. The Money Pit wasn't a ruse at the beginning. I believe it was originally an air shaft for air circulation for the mine. The entrance, somewhere else on the island was large enough to draw the outside air into the mine causing the Money Pit/ air shaft to help expel the Carbon Dioxide and the smoke from torches. Mining between the two islands is very complex. My theory is much more simple. The island to the right of the swamp wasn't there at first. It was man-made out of what was pulled out of the mine.
Wow, that's a really good theory too! Thanks for watching and the comment!
100% agree with your theory. Only on way to find out. Completely dig out the swamp.
Thanks Ramon! Let's hope they do!
just thought this the other day well, some of it i figured the 90ft stone's inscriptions were some form of instruction but those that didn't know the code would keep digging thus the trap for invaders
maybe ball found something when digging his houses foundation
That's a very good possibility! Thanks for checking out the video!
I agree with this theory. Well done
Thanks a bunch Todd!
yeh its a bloody interesting theory you could be wright fred nolan always said the swamp was the key
Sam Ball left the pulley after emptying the vault
@@davebanks4924 no he came over a hundred years later the McGinnis brothers found the depression and pulley
@@diychad7268 sorry, but, no. Samuel Ball fought for the loyalists in the American Revolutionary war. He was long dead by 100 years later.
You're probably right, He became a very wealthy man in his later years. Treasure will do that
@@surfstarcc1 His descendants still have some of the treasure
@@geoffreyjones2000 there's so much more to this story than we all know. I hope the lagina brothers can shed some light on all of this. I feel like I'm invested in that place and I've never even been there. 🤣
Great video, i agree with your theory as well. In the area u showed the stone platform they found evidence of a clay mine as well. Interestingly the 3 young men who found the money pit are all related to some of the original Scottish settlers that were first on record of going to/ owning or populating Nova Scotia (New Scotland) and some of those ancestors were involved in not only the crusades but also the Knights Templar. From the Book Oak Island 1632 by James A. McQuiston, FSA Scot.
Thanks a bunch! And great information too! Doesn't surprise me, as most presidents are related. It always seems to be about bloodlines, going back thousands of years.
I have also thought after a couple of seasons that the swamp was a key area. If anything it held the door to the tunnel system to avoid water traps.
Exactly! Thanks for watching and commenting.
This is a front pocket find video
Thanks, very kind of you!
@@MetalMikeandPersis i really feel like your theory fits. I believe you're really on to something here!!!
Thanks again real deal!
Great theory,if your watching the show these days this is what the brothers think happened exactly what you are saying.great job
Thanks Mike!
Nothing best then sitting in an office with a small computer ,,, however made this show I’m sure I’ll never see it again!
The bros should see your version of this .
The local MicMac Tribe have oral stories of a foreigner who would "hold court", which is obviously not a First Nation term. As well, the oral history talks of how they "helped him build his island". This foreigner of whom they speak was Mr. Sinclair of Knights Templar fame.
I didn't know that, awesome thinking! I always felt it was beyond coincidence that the Micmac "battle flag" was a mirror image of the Templar flag. It was so obvious that the 2 groups had to have met and even worked with each other.
Now you can't also forget that since the West side of the island is more stone compact and the east side is looser they could use that stone to reinforce the walls that conjoined the 2 islands and used the western side as an underground quarry.
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There could be like what you said either a another or the real treasure on the west side if you really think about why would you put the treasure on the eastern side where the ground has a deeper bed rock and the soil is much softer. Where on the west side it would be so much harder to dig straight down without traveling through the original tunnels that "may" or "may not" reside there. They need to do an extensive radar read out of the western side (like what they did with the easternside)that would support or denounce any of these theories. But remember back in season 6 I believe Dan Blankenship used a dowsing technique on the western side forgive me I can't remember where exactly but I do remember he did find a few anomalies perhaps this supports the theory I cant remember if they investigated any further on it, but as hazardous as the money pit is i think they need to shift their focus more to researching the western side and more excavating in the swamp whether they go anywhere or not either way if they don't which I highly doubt it. But if they don't it would at least be worth crossing something off the board. Keep in mind I'm just a 17 year old farm boy who only researches this stuff as a hobby so take my "thoughts" with a grain of salt.
Good thinking!
@@MetalMikeandPersis i edited it so check out the longer response
Everything you said makes perfect sense and I agree with you. I started getting into all this type of stuff at the age of 16, but that was almost 40 years ago. They say it takes a lifetime to understand the universe and become devine. I see why. Best advice I can give, search TH-cam for the Lost Book of Enki. There's a 14 hour translation from Ancient Astronaut Archive, but he also does shorter summary videos. For me it was one of the best eye openers connecting our past to present.
@@MetalMikeandPersis gotcha thanks!!!
@@MetalMikeandPersis what TH-cam creator are you referring to?
Your presentation does you credit, very credible & logical (with all known facts). There is a lot of ships timbers at such a great though ?? Also after Friday 13th & the Knight Templar finances 'disappearing' the Cantons of Switzerland would soon unite taking a 'reverse colours' Templar flag for their new Confederacy . Yes the Templars fleet had already sailed from La Rochelle (The finances however would have been spread out all over Europe , a time factor favours movement to Switzerland), the 'Object' returned from the Holy Land ETC, would again be easily shipped out - to either Oak Island or Roslin Chapel - the fleet had split into two - Heads or Tails - OR BOTH.
Yeah. I think there's proof of them splitting up after 1307. They probably gathered in Scotland first to discuss their mission, then fanned out to Switzerland, Portugal, North America, and some probably stayed in Scotland. There was also a stone dug up on a farm in Wisconsin that had Templar writing and the date of 1362, so I think some went west and then south towards Mexico.
@@MetalMikeandPersis Anywhere I can learn more about the stone in Wisconsin?
@@jmacd41 sorry, I keep saying Wisconsin but it's Minnesota. Here a link for one video, but like Oak Island, everyone has their opinions.
th-cam.com/video/4PJZp9N1-zo/w-d-xo.html
4:32 1785??? It's 1795!!!
Wow, you made another amazing video there. I wish I could make videos half as good as you do. Thanks you so much for sharing this
You're too kind! Thanks a bunch!
Spot ON
Great video! On the show, they should use more of these animated explanations. If a person hasn’t watched for a while, it can be hard to “see” all the details and they always show the same animations.
Thanks for the very nice comment!
The road in front of the swamp did not exist until around the 1930s. Before that what is known today as the swamp was wide open to Mahone Bay, a shallow cove at high tide that emptied out at low tide ... The outline of Oak Island was much different before the road was put in , from the outline of Oak Island today which includes the road ....
If there is buried treasure, did the people who buried it ever plan to recover it one day? Or were they hiding something so it would never be found?
That is the ultimate question! With a complicated answer. The short answer is I believe the Templars discovered not only gold under Temple Mount, but important knowledge meant to be kept from the masses. Some of that knowledge was how the ancients worked so well with stone. But they also learned why gold is so important, and decided they had to hide it and keep it safe. Keep in mind most pirates were Templars/Freemasons as well, who intercepted gold being brought back to Europe and hid it in different locations.
Has anyone given thought to that what if being two islands they were also smaller an. After digging some tunnels they some how brought in dirt an rock an filled an built up the island more so that you could have more space to hide dig an whatever else
The Lagina brothers need to watch this video.
ich bin sicher sie wissen es......es ist sehr gefährlich weiter zu machen
Erin Helton and Zena Helper are right about 1713 Map.... it's under E3 at the bottom of Nolan's Cross. And oh BTW the was already a recovery in the past to retrieve the wealth and bulk of the treasures. They were used to incite the Revolution of a small meline 13 colonies.
Why go through that much trouble hiding something that nobody including yourself can ever get to again? Why not just dig a big whole, put the treasure in, cover it with dirt and roll a big boulder over it? This way if you need it you can get to it.
I think it's more elaborate than that. There probably are hidden entrances somewhere. I think that old hand drawn French map eluded to a valve, which is weird because that hints at being able to turn water flow on and off. But I hear what you are saying.
These are some very interesting ideas......hopefully someday we will know what really happened
I'm with you on that!
What about the U shaped structure. You didn't mention it and it's a big part of the story.
Hope your weekend went well and you had a good one very good vifeo helps me to mack mine better thanks my top buddy
Thank you too Terry! Keep the thumb wiggling! 👍
Wow Mike just saw this. Well done👏👏👏
Thank you so much Kathy and Tim!
Best version yet
Thank you!
so if u put a hexagon over the pyramid, you'd know exactly where 2 dig right away as well. how's fred nolan's cross involved in that? and also, the eagle on the dollar bill is gazing 2 the left w/the hexagon above his head in stars. i'm pushing it, haha--anyway, amazing you dreamt this.
If all this is true and it could be possible a curse if the island was released called covid-19
Think about it because bad bacteria was released when the tombs were opened at the pyramids. Think about how many pandemics have been around and killedr hundreds thousands of people and no idea where it came from. Wash that around in your brain just saying.
@@peggysmith9352 we have 2 stop them laginas--oh no, we're too late already!
I love this hookum and your video is interesting and feasible apart from ‘ siphoning ‘ all that trapped sea water.
As I watch your theory unfold the big question is ‘ why on earth would anyone undertake such an elaborate binding place for ‘treasure ‘
Yes we know the Egyptians designed and constructed devious methods to prevent looting of the tombs etc. However they had as many slaves to undertake such work.
Still not convinced such a venture would have been necessary; why not just bury it as was the tradition ?
This theory is as good as any. Evidence from the first 2 episodes would make the theory not 100% correct, but it's still way up there.
The recent discovery of the paved road which they seem to think was made to transport treasure to the money pit . What if to your point it was transport earth from the dig to the swamp not leaving a suspicious mound by the pit and also back filling the swamp to conceal workings there..
Yes! Funny you say that, as a couple years ago my wife spotted a line of low lying trees from the swamp to money pit area. We posted last November on a Facebook Oak Island group page a series of photos of this. And then this year they dig the road there. I think the same thing, that a road was used during construction. I also think the island was used for 2-3 centuries, and then they covered up all evidence. Really appreciate your comment!
Ok cool video. But....
The eye of the swamp is an enigma and this method does not explain why they eye perpetually fills with water as if it is connected to the sea in the same way (possibly) as the money pit appears to be.
In several episodes they have given away the odd one liner about the eye, and I suspect looking at it as a clay pit isn’t the end of it. If the stone road actually goes to the eye that would beg the question why, as there is a stone platform up to and around it.
If tunnels were dug either side into the island from there they would start at the level of the platform which is a foot above current sea level if I recall that correctly.
The stone platform was created in the 1200s as thats the date for the creation of the swamp, the dating was from wood under the platform near the eye. It should be a relatively easy thing to locate tunnels leading off of the swamp by radar etc
Which would suggest an almighty effort with medieval tech to create this feature let alone the tunnelling although if you look at medieval warfare tunnelling and undermining of castle walls etc they knew their stuff but the swamp? Where’s the parallels for this in that time period. And sacrificing ships to do it, suggests a fleet and the possibility people knew they weren’t going home large workforce no transport. Which in turn suggests something like this endeavour would have been recorded somewhere surely? It all smacks of very disciplined and very well trained operations and regardless of what time period that would have been a military operation.
If it’s an island that was known about as a suitable secret place to hide stuff it would be unique and 800 years of manipulation would mean a continuous thread of knowledge about the island and what’s there passing on through many generations.
My point is there must be a written record if it somewhere and the most complete continuous record kept that might be relevant is either the Spanish or English admiralty records. The Scots will have some records prior to union. The French may have some records although revolutions tend to mean stuff gets binned.
It surprises me no documentary work features in the program instead there are various theories put forward, none of which appears to have studied these research sources in any depth. Or perhaps they have and there is simply nothing. Which would be a great mystery in itself. With the amount of manpower and organisation required it would have cost money to equip and send off that many to do the work. Someone would have signed off the expense.
Anyway great vid and thank you for putting it together, but where does the eye fit in?
Great questions, I wish I had answers to. Personally I believe plans and basic construction started in the late 1300's, after being chased out of Europe, and remained under construction and used as a repository, not depository, for the next 3-4 centuries. Much like today's Freemasons remain secret, the Templars were similar. There will not be public logs of this. Of the thousands of Templars that existed, only a few hundred would have been part of Oak Island. Many Templar groups scattered world wide, in an effort to preserve our gold and books of lost knowledge. Many became pirates that would intercept the gold returning to Europe. Which is why I think Oak Island will still hold treasures from many different cultures and time periods. Part of the "lost knowledge" are secrets of stone and building, which they were very good at. Like the recently discovered tunnel in France that went from a Templar fortress all the way to the ocean front.
I'm not sure of the purpose of the eye, I only hope it will be discovered. If you're not familiar with "The Book of Enki", I would check it out. It all ties together.
I definitely think the swamp is man made and there are dams at both ends. I also believe there is still a ship, or part of one, in ghe swamp. I never thought about tunneling in from the shore of the swamp, but it would make sense.
If i had spent most of my life trying to find treasure only to fail i would be a bit niffed and protective of my work so before i filled the hole in i would put a few tit bits down to to make it interesting for the next treasure hunt to come along which in a weird way keeps there project on track,also keeps legacy going when they die which keep's there memory alive also about there intrepid exploits
Historic treasure trove of knowledge Of everything
You hit that right on the nose!
Plz explain how all this work was done without machinery. That is very elaborate work. I truly hope they find something of great value because my watching will be in vane
Thanks for watching! Templars were expert stone workers and mason's. I believe they built many of their castles and fortresses in Europe, plus it was discovered they had made tunnel system to connect these as well as tunnels to the shorelines for quick escape in at least one French fortress. And thus the name change from Templar to Freemason in the later years.
I absolutely love th bros n this show. My Bro n I watch together n then compare notes th next day over lunch. Th bros have dumped lg mounts of cash to feed their curiosity... n mine😻
aliens of course!!
To begin with the sea levels at Oak Island would have been 3-5 feet lower during the time period that a treasure would have been deposited and the ships would draft over 10 feet of water (15 is more likely), so the swamp simply wasn't deep enough to float a ship even if it was open to the sea at the time which it was not. We know that the swamp was not an open channel because the swamp sediments were dated to around 1200 AD, that's about 400 years too soon for the dates of any of the wood that has been found in the money pit area.
You have to pay attention to what physical evidence is available when you produce a theory and make sure your theory is consistent with the physical evidence.
You couldn't quite figure out how they would get water out of the swamp. All the would have to do is dig a hole in the bar separating the swamp from the sea and let it drain, because it would have been about 5 feet above sea level at the time. High tide would still be a problem.
Maybe they used the ballast stone from the ships to block the water then the ship would of floated in the swamp
Find about the Portuguese trail to Oak Island and Ascadia.
Will look into it. Thanks for watching!
Is it me or doe's that island look like the shape of a plattipus mybe the treasure is in New zealand really and that's a clue?
Ok, you just made the list for my favorite comments. 😅
Looks like an elephant
I watched the Shakespeare Code documentary thing about Oak Island On youtube and man...it blew my mind. This genius guy who makes his own Cypher books said that the codes hidden in this certain first printing of Shakespeare's entire works has to have been put there on purpose, which tells me that it is real.. The hidden stuff all points to Rosicrucian codes and really fascinating stuff, where the vault on Oak Island could house Holy Treasures the Templars had hidden. Everyone should look into that theory it is awesome...very eye opening
I'll definitely search for it! Thanks for watching and the info.
@@MetalMikeandPersis I can post a link to the first part,there are 3.
@@MetalMikeandPersis th-cam.com/video/tNL0XODSMwU/w-d-xo.html
@@MetalMikeandPersis I posted the link to the first part on YT as its free but I have also seen the same doc advertised for a price! Thank you for your videos great content!
@@OntarioAtOrion Awesome, will watch them. Thanks!
I think they should strip mine it, but I’m sure the government wouldn’t allow that just to find oodles of treasure and change history. At least they finally got to looking in the swamp. Great video!!
Thanks Bass Man! Hopefully they get more answers this season. Really appreciate all your support!
I actually think that anything that was there is gone and the producers realised they had a great reality tv show. Your theory has merit.
What about the water table ?
Down some, but not more than 3-5 feet I believe is what I read.
yeah, you should try connect to the lagina brothers...
umm didnt wee already see all of this the last season seems like i already watched al of this with there endless theroies
Excellent
Interesting, sounds plausible. 👍
Thanks for checking it out!
Awesome video!!!!
Makes lots of sense...xxx
Well they found the stone dock. You called that one
I’ve always thought the money pit is a decoy😁
Same
The owners left the rope and pully after they took the last of the treasure, I suspect it has already been retrieved and nothing remains.
Wow, it all make sense!
Thank you!
@@MetalMikeandPersis You welcome!
Yes this is more Realistic... it explains a lot !
Interesting theory
my only problem with this is that the other side of the islands geology is much harder dense rock
Wish I never started watching this oak island mystery 🤣
Lol! Maybe the ride will end soon? Thanks for watching!
@@MetalMikeandPersis 🤞👍
You? I read a book when I was 9. And then Leonard Nemoy had the original 1/2hr novelty show “In search of”.
Now I’m over 50.
If these guys go broke, I’ll donate for even another shovel full. And then another.
I get obsessed! Seriously I've even gone to the island 3 times, its beautiful and much bigger in person!
I wish I could stop watching
Where is Oak Island?
Nova Scotia, Canada.
Great theory! I am puzzled as to why the brothers are spending so much time, money and effort on the money pit. All they have found there is old timber and miniature scraps of this and that, nothing that would induce me to spend another penny on it with no evidence that there is anything there. Definitely concentrate on the swamp, they have already found timber from a possible Spanish galleon and what looks to be a stone jetty. Why else build a jetty unless to unload a ship?
Exactly! Thanks for watching and the cool comment.
@@MetalMikeandPersis If the money pit is just a red herring, or a distraction, why draw attention to the area? If the theory of horizontal tunnels from the swamp is correct, then there is no evidence of them, so why build a money pit to distract, when all it will do is lure people to it? No money pit: nothing to see, tunnels are safe and sound. The money pit and flood tunnels are too elaborate and complex just to be a distraction, the labour needed would have been huge. I think the money pit was a real treasure store, whether holding pirates' booty or buried by the mutinous crew of a galleon. The only way to get answers is by exploring more .
Anyone with half a brain can figure the money pit is a ruse. No one would bury something you can never retrieve.
isnt that kind of the point?
Especially if it is some of the things they think it could be.
@@binnins1982 Doesn't make sense, at least to me, to put priceless treasure in an unrecoverable state. One then must ask what's the point. The only thing I can believe is that a grave, would be in an unrecoverable situation to ensure no disturbance. There are so many fantasies about what "might be there", none of which lead to un-recoverability. Knights Templar - want to keep their treasures for religious use, pirates - want to keep their treasure to use for lavish/foolish expenditures, crown jewels - needed for succession of royals. Horizontal, above water table tunnels, this videos describe, work better for such treasure since they are recoverable.
Ye the rope and pully seemed wrong to me not something you would have done hiding valuables unless to put hunters off the trail .The rest seems very logical and a sensible use of resources and labour .
I like the idea 👍
Thanks Rob!
IMO, much of what you say here is in the right general direction! I'd encourage people to check out the channel called "DOT to DOT" to get your mind blown on this.
Bingo.finally,thought that was obviously how it look from a map the swamp look like two island that were once a channel for a boat harbour.
Then I thought to use ground penetrating radar to look down in those possible tunnel areas...?
they've tried that many times. the radar crew comes, finds lots of promising targets, they take core samples or dig and nada.
Lidar technology may solve this. It has been successful in uncovering lost cities worldwide. They conduct it from the air and is now used extensively in archaeology. Also satellite investigative methods have been very helpful.
Oak island is an elephant from before the flood.
Curious, you saying that Oak Island was constructed pre flood? I'd like to hear more.
@@MetalMikeandPersis I think he is on the mudfossil theory and saying it was a real elephant from before the flood..........
Lol, I read that wrong. Yes, I always thought it looked a bit like Dumbo. 😄
Good thinking
Thank you!
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Why?
Or he looked at this map and could tell that the swamp portion of the island looks modified or man made somehow . Kind of like you can see the difference between a field that has never been plowed and one that has been disturbed even once in the last 100 years . YES , you can tell with a trained eye .
Rick and Marty theese last 2 seasons are aiming toward that area they think there's a ship in the swamp and they found trace of gold in the water by the area in your animation showed they I think are going to dig there drain the swamp etc they are on the right path......... Finally
I have been watching the show in tv since it started i found it very intricate how many generations try to solve the riddle. Take Care
Like you, I've been a big fan since it started. Hope they get some answers this year, but it was probably a slow year for them with all that's been going on since April. Thanks for stopping by!
@@MetalMikeandPersis For sure, let see how far this goes.
AGREED
Amazing video👍😊
Thanks a bunch for watching!
Clever......but its kinda sus, that they had yo have worked on it for so many years, and left nothing but that pully? And it stayed unknown for ao long....... i think theres more
There's definitely more.
I believe the block and tackle left over the pit was a decoy that said "Hey, dig here!" Can we really believe that those building this intricate system of tunnels "accidently forgot" to remove the pulley? No, it was a tripwire decoy designed to set in motion the series of flooding devices, etc. protect whatever was hidden. There is certainly a "backdoor" to the tunnel system.
@@jmacd41 if they were smart enough to do this system. Im sure rhey thought of a back door
Could it be???
hey nice theory👍👍 i have an metaldetecting channel , and i would like to share this video, if it is okay with you?? i will of cause link to your channel
You sure can! Thanks for the nice comment, I'll be sure to subscribe to your channel. 👍
@@MetalMikeandPersis thank you very much👍👍
Hi WCD, you're going to hate me now, but I misunderstood. I thought you meant share the video on social media or such, but not reposting the video on your channel. Would you mind taking it down? Very sorry!
@@MetalMikeandPersis of cause Will be done asap
Thanks my friend! Looking forward to watching more of your videos. You have a good grasp on the oak island theories!
There’s no construction needed for joining the two islands. This is rather common place and completely natural.
That's totally possible too. I appreciate you watching and your feedback.
@@MetalMikeandPersis I’ve done Oak Island for way over 30 years now. It’s 99% wishful thinking mixed with pure fantasy and 1% real facts and hard evidence. This is no mystery for me any more. I still like the mythical aspect of it though and still a fan of the place. Could it be?👍🏻
last season it was conclusively proven the swamp was man made. lending credence to the "originally 2 islands" theory.
@@paulvarda5318 Really? How was that proven?
I like it .let's dig
very interesting
Thanks for watching Frank!
My theory exactly!!!
Well, the swamp is drained and they might have found a ship so who knows
That would be very cool to see!