@@ainsleesbookclub when i was young i named two feral kittens that we found outside our house apple and sand and my sister has not stopped bullying me since
i hate it just for the fact that her books were starting to die down in popularity at the book store i work at but now they're spiking in popularity again because of this stupid show so now i have to see her books all the time again 💀
I really liked working at a bookstore in some ways, but not having to see cases and cases of Colleen Hoover books knowing that they would sell out in a few days has definitely improved my quality of life lol. although I suppose that goes same for all the books I know in my soul to be dog shit but people love them earnestly anyway, its maddening to watch up close
35:14 For the uninitiated: The drama is that Coleen and Blake Lively (Lily Bloom actress) are promoting the movie as a romcom and not warning people about the sensitive topics (Domestic Violence). BUT the male director, who is also the main actor who plays the abusive guy, is promoting by himself, never with Coleen and Blake, and he’s discussing the sensitive topics and warning people about that part of the movie. He’s NOT treating it like a flowery romcom. Also something something Ryan Reynolds (Blake’s husband) rewrote the rooftop scene, potentially during the Writer’s Strike, and it’s speculated that the director didn’t like that. Also there was a director’s cut of the movie and a Blake/Coleen cut of the movie and the one in theaters is the Blake/Coleen version.
34:15 I unfortunately have experience with this sort of situation. My father abused my mom, and she eventually gained the courage to lock him out of the house and divorce him. She did not want to coparent with him, but the courts where I live forced her to. When I was in 3rd grade, my dad ended up with custody half the time instead of every other weekend. My father was abusive and neglectful, and my mom fought to protect me but couldn't. I turn 18 soon, and my mom only got full custody of me last month despite everything my father did. So, it is possible for someone to be forced to coparent with an abuser. I don't think that's what's happening in the book, but I felt that was important to say. Survivors with children have so many extra hurdles to go through to fully escape an abuser. I do want to be clear, though. I am not a fan of this book. It has potential, but I don't think it really handles this subject as well as it could have.
I haven’t read any coho but I’ve been DEEP in the trenches of watching multiple hours long videos going in depth on her books and honestly, this one is probably the least unhinged. Despite ignoring all of Ryle’s early red flags (stalking, coercion) he’s at least labeled as an abuser eventually. In the majority of her books this behaviour is romanticized and desirable. Colleen Hoover is actually my nemesis fr
Same same same agree agree on almost everything you mentioned - never read a coho book but will watch every single hours long video about them. And the fact that this one is the least unhinged is still baffling to me.
@@tungstensmum1491she also never shows us, she just tells. All of her characters are essentially the same. I’ll never understand how she’s so popular. 😢
I totally agree with your opinions about how she doesn't market the book (or movie) as being about domestic violence! Colleen Hoover is notoriously bad for not including trigger warnings in any of her books because she thinks they give spoilers, which is just 😬
One thing that has always upset me about this book is how similar Ryle (who is rightfully portrayed as an abuser and left at the end) is to so many of Colleen's male love interests, who are NOT portrayed as abusers, even though a lot of them are very much abusive mentally and some even sexually (most famously the scene in November 9 which was taken out after public criticism). In fact, I kind of feel that the only real difference is that Ryle's abuse gets physical. To me that sounds dangerously close to "only physical abuse is real abuse" which is unfortunately a common opinion and really harmful. "It Ends With Us" is not inherently a bad or harmful book but imo it just feels tone-deaf to write a book about abuse when you can't even address the toxicity and abusive tendencies of your (supposedly good, at most morally grey) love interests :/ Just wanted to get that off my chest, I loved the video!
Absolutely - Any positive messaging in IEWU falls flat because *all* of CoHo's leading men are toxic/abusive (even after the scene was changed, the dude from Nov9 is still extremely sexually aggressive, to put it gently). And in IEWU Atlas who is supposed to be the good dude displays many problematic tendencies ( the weird age gap, the peeping on her, putting his suicide on her just before engaging in sexual behaviour, the way he corners her in the bathroom after she had been abused and then humiliates the man he knows is physically abusive) that are completely ignored by the text So yeah I wont give coho any grace for the way she handled abuse in IEWU (ALSO am I the only one who is icked out that she wrote smut inspired by her abusive dad????)
@@schneefall3935 I mean kinda... she said IEWU was inspired by her experience of her dad abusing her mum...and it contains v graphic smut btw lily and ryle. Maybe I am reading into this too much, but that's kinda weird isnt it ?
@@not_actually_a_jellybean Ohhhh okay, I thought she wrote another thing about her dad or something! My brain just didn't work for a sec there... Yeah, you're absolutely right, that is pretty weird
My problem is that Colleen writes rhyle as this “terrible abusive guy” and writes this whole story about how this type of man is dangerous, but then turns around and makes the rest of her male main characters the SAME WAY just without the physical abuse.
This was in the Romance section, so I didn't know what I was getting myself into and I felt so betrayed. That's literally the section for Love and Happy Endings and Safety. I actually went back and complained about the shelving and the librarian was shocked (she hadn't read it) and moved all the books out of the section and put up a post-it with a warning.
As a florist myself, i almost had a stroke trying to comprehend her stupid ass shop idea and the thought process behind it 😭. That's just complete detachment from reality at this point, Colleen.
the ending with their child being left with Ryle alone makes me so mad. i’m an ECE too, and the amount of neglect and abuse i witness and report from parents is so heartbreaking. some parents don’t deserve children, but all children deserve to have proper parents.
I like a lot of gory, violent media, and something I've learned is that a trigger warning is ALWAYS worth it. Even if it spoils the book, even if it "ruins" the twist, it's always worth it, because it can prevent a complete mental breakdown. Getting a book "ruined" for you, and reading it even though you know the twist, is WAY better than reading a book and getting triggered, or just disgusted and horrified.
The James Joyce letter is the most horrifying thing I’ve heard in the entirety of my online life. Why are the descriptions are so eloquent??!😭 Criminal.
I literally started crying from both terror and ridiculousness of those letteres when she started reading one entry on the video... My brain chemistry have changed and will never be the same after that.
@@satanspizza-dq6xf Yeah, I mean, if those letters weren't supposed to be published... yeah they could be as freaky as they wanted with each other in private as long as they were both into it.
I don’t know when your channel popped onto my feed (maybe 6 months ago?), and I don’t know why I watched the episode. I am certainly not your chosen demographic. But I loved it. I watched the back catalogue, and I now get to spend another 40 minutes watching this episode. Like hot soup on a cold day when you’re feeling unwell, this channel is pure joy. Thank you for making the world just a little nicer.
I feel like more people need to be aware that abuse does not have to be deliberate. even if someone “accidentally” is blocking doorways, breaking your stuff, “forgetting” important things re: your health and mental wellbeing (in a detrimental way) it is still abuse.
honestly, i feel like the majority of abuse isn't deliberate, in the sense that abusers don't sit around consciously plotting to terrorize their victims. people seem to believe that that is indeed the case though, which is what makes calling out abusive acts for what they are so difficult.
I don't think deliberate is quite the right word there. Your point is valid but I'd probably phrase it as "Abuse doesn't have to be direct" That is, abuse can be the direct form of undeniable physical violence or verbal abuse; it can also be the indirect things like how your stuff always ends up getting broken (but never the other person's), "forgetting" things that are important, letting air out of the tire so as to be able to berate you for not paying attention to the tire pressure in the passenger rear tire of the vehicle, blocking paths, forgetting important things, etc. Yes, I am a DV survivor who divorced my ex and the tire thing was something that happened *all the time* when I was still with him. Weirdly, after he went to jail (for violating my order of protection) I haven't had a single instance of my tire inexplicably going low (and it's now 14 years since I got free).
@@anishinaabaeI agree 100%, I actually found myself googling “does abuse have to be on purpose” and in that I discovered that very often it isn’t premeditated evil like I thought. very eye opening for me
Re: Baldoni directing and playing Ryle -- from what I have heard, he did not originally intend to play Ryle, while he did intend to direct and in fact bought the rights to the movie a couple years ago. Apparently Hoover was the one who wanted him to play Ryle, and as she is the author he agreed to do so.
I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts on Justin Baldoni directing and playing Ryle (sp?) and I actually just saw a clip of an interview of the guy that played Spike on Buffy talking about a similar experience where his character SA’ed Buffy and that filming that scene did traumatize him so much that he refuses to play that kind of character or do those kinds of scenes anymore.
15:20 There are TOO many people from the olden days writing nasty letters and then keeping them for posterity. I had the pleasure (/s) of doing a report on Mozart in high school. That man is nasty. And I’ve heard about Napoleon’s letters to his wife. In a hygienic way, absolutely disgusting. They had so much time to burn them but chose to let their descendants find them, and then the descendants chose to curse us with the knowledge of them 😭
As much as I don’t like Colleen Hoover, I live in Boston, and the minimum wage when the book was released was actually $10 an hour as bad as that is, it went up 75 cents a year to get it to $15 while they decreased percentage of pay on sundays until it was a normal day rate (it used to be time and a half)
The James Joyce letter made me inhale my saliva and cough for a solid fifteen seconds, been years since the written word has given me such a visceral reaction.
When you said the guy shows up on the roof and starts kicking a chair in the beginning of the book, immediately I just thought of when sims are angry and kick over trash cans to feel something💀 what is this book
So excited to watch this! I've been obsessed with your videos since I found your channel and binged them all, your energy is just incredible, i love it!
*peace and love girlie* I'm in ECE too and can confirm takes so much patience even if you're a calm person and LOVE what you're doing. People who are pretty nice but not that committed or not that patient don't even make it working with little kids, so if you're an emotionally unstable, *angry* person??? Absolutely not. So right, that's 100% unsafe but unfortunately the courts usually do not care if the mother has been a victim of domestic violence and will still give the dad 50% custody especially if they're loaded like this clown and idk if Colleen was thinking about it that cynically but it's probably better for the kiddo in the long run for Lily to get along with him and give him days than to duke it out in court.
Found your channel a little over a month ago and it was an INSTANT subscribe. Was waiting for you to post again. Never stop giving us hilarious content queen x
A girl in my class lent me this book and told me she absolutely loved it. Safe to say I am now more select with whom I take recommendations from now. That book was a prime example of when Wattpad writing manages to slip through the cracks into the mainstream world. Shout out Collen, no one romanticises statutory like you babe!
I cringe every time the name “Atlas” is said because I reminds me of reading Wattpad stories (probably way too young) and that is definitely a name a 14 year old would think was a cool bad boy name. I can bet you real money I read a Wattpad story where the male love interest was named “Atlas King”. Also I know someone who owns a Donkey named Atlas so it is just a ridiculous name for a person to me. Also love all the “Ellen photos”. I burst out laughing out load in the car and scared my mom.😂
Statistically, anytime a man abuses their partner, they will end up abusing the children too. Personally, it's very true and I wish I didn't have the mother that would turn a blind eye to it.
tbh i always thought that the reason why the director was also the main love interest was because he seemed to want to make the movie a movie about domestic abuse unlike the romcom blake lively and coleen hoover is advertising it as but i could be wrong and misinterpreting it
I watched the movie yesterday. after just listening to all the contevrsy of it and also knowing about the DV part of it ahead of time. From how you summed the book, the movie improved on the source materiel so much! Atlas and Lily's relationship really seemed genuine, heartfelt, and had moments that made me like Lily's really one note and flat character compared to her adult version. And how the DV was portrayed, the guy had his red flag moments of rage, but all of the abuse moments did seems like accidents rather then deliberate abuse? Which I found so strange, and of course there is excusing abuse, the SA scene was a scary situation I wouldn't wish on anyone. But yeah, I would never read her books, Justin Baldoni I think gave the source materiel some justice and to actually portray the message the book, and handle DV in a more real-life kind of way that the average watcher could self insert and reflect on their own experience.
Oh my gosh I am in early childhood education too and I had the same reaction!! Especially the whole "he doesn't even remember it happening" like girly surely you see how that's not a good thing??? Not a get out of jail free card??? What a mess of a book. I absolutely agree too that the marketing behind it & the movie is really Not It. People have the right to know beforehand if they're going to be reading about an abusive relationship and not the cute rom com it tries to make itself out to be.
I agree with your review and I applaud you for the comedic delivery of your good remarks. One thing though. Lily is probably forced to co-parent with Ryle due to the law. I don't think she has a choice to parent Dory all by herself. Also, I will wait for the day I see your new throne of glass book review. That's the funniest shit ever😂 thanks for another fun watch!
I’m glad you like my silly videos! And yes I agree!! Logically I understand why they ended up co-parenting, but to me it just felt like a weirdly sanitized way to end the book? Like “one year later it all turned out okay and we all lived happily ever after” vibes which doesn’t fit with the rest of it Although, the book was tonally a mess so really I don’t know why I expected anything better
10:04 Call me dramatic, but personally, I would never speak to Ryle again after this. If it were me, the book would've ended immediately after this scene and be an eighth of the length it is now. Do not proposition me while touching my gravity connectors.
This book came out a while ago so to be fair the minimum wage could have been $10 an hour in Massachusetts then Edit: googled it and yeah in 2016 the minimum wage was actually $10.
I’m a fic writer and the idea of not tagging like important trigger topics is so wild to me. Like people will still read your stuff even if they like know the basics of what’s gonna happen, it’s also good to make sure people aren’t getting in over their heads! Tangent over, excellent video very funny :)
I read this book like two years ago and had ZERO idea it was about DV bc of the summary on the back and the fact that it was marketed as a rom com. This book messed me up for a week after because of how the DV was portrayed. I didn’t hate the book but I can’t get behind it due to the marketing and lack of trigger warnings 😮💨
Authors not including trigger warnings for this kind of thing is so gross. I totallly agree. If you were comfortable enough in your writing and in the story why wouldn’t you make sure that your readers are in the right mental space to feel the impact
@apayne205 in 2024, it is very easy to find information about a book. If you need trigger warnings, you shouldn't view material with first looking it up. We have to do a better job using discernment and common sense.
@@JennHayden I read tons of books that let the reader know to check the authors website for trigger warnings, list them at the beginning, or a note that they are at the end, or even mention there may be triggering content, something to prompt a check. It is very little effort to make sure that your reader is in the right space to consume content that could be potentially harmful. It is a very common practice for an author to mention that kind of thing before the book starts There are content warning on all kinds of media, and in my opinion, there’s no reason for (especially mainstream) books to be any different 😊
I would like to see your opinion on more of her work. I have only heard negative things, and I don't know if I'd ever read one of her books, but I would like to know what she might be doing well to get people to keep reading them.
I live in Boston and the minimum wage is around 15.5$ and 16$ which is an improvement form 10$ but is still nothing. Specially for a city as expensive as Boston.
I definitely *didn't* illegally download a copy of this book in like 2016/2017, during the peak ibookpile days, with 0 context of the content or coleen hoover and fully judged it by its cover as a romance. But I will say this book was my first (and only i think?) 1 star on goodreads and is the reason I have since refused to read any of her other books and actively recommended a friend NOT read her. everything I read about her after, and more recently with the movie coming out, I'm glad I've stayed away
26:24 Having never read the wild ride of a book-- maybe that's the point of it? Like you don't know if it was really an accident or not, you're very confused, are they actually a good person, etc?
I would be inclined to agree, but Colleen Hoover's messy personal drama and the way she writes/treats the love interests in her other books makes it a lot harder to figure out how you're supposed to feel about Ryle. I personally don't think she was the right author to write this kind of book.
I agree, the book doesn't seem to be as bad as people make it out to be (though it's still not good). However, with the kinda shitty writing and the Ellen bit, the intention of the story is pretty confusing. I also definitely can see someone picking up this book, reading the description, and thinking it was some dramatic romance story, not a story about domestic violence. It's a little too wishy-washy with its purpose.
Honestly, I'd love an awareness book on abusive/toxic relationships that actually spreads awareness and acknowledges it is abusive. I want a book like that to help people. I love books like The Fault In Our Stars, All The Bright Places and Dear Evan Hansen, which are all sort of awareness books that are accurate and have phone numbers to call to help and what to do while being amazing, having the best characters and are accurate.
I think some scientists think that our laughter sound is derived from a play-fight panting sound, which is why it might show up during other times where a harder breathing response happens (like stress)
if that can outweigh the bad from this specific lily, the lily is associated with one of the mosy beloved women, the virgin mary (its a symbol of her purityor smth), i think its pretty sick + u can try to forget colleen's lily n think abt mary
Hello I love your videos!!! I became a fan somewhat recently and I'm so excited to hear your opinion about the book since I am interested but not enough to read it myself.
A part of me dies whenever someone walks into the library I work at and asks where the Colleen Hoover books are 😭
no cause I had to walk into my local bookstore and purchase this book! My cool person cover is blown! I can never show my face there ever again!
Glad I work in a university library where we don't have those😂
omgg they don't even have Colleen Hoover at my library cuz they r always checked out (there's like 10 copies 🤣)
@@ainsleesbookclubI would have to go back and apologize to the person that sold it to me
Same 🥲 at least they’re reading
Lily. Blossom. Bloom. Never getting over that
its like when you let a young child name their pet and then that poor animal has a stupid name for the rest of its life
@@ainsleesbookclub when i was young i named two feral kittens that we found outside our house apple and sand and my sister has not stopped bullying me since
It screams horrifically Mormon idk dont ask me why but it does
Literally reminds me of the sims 4 sims in bloom challenge, where I named my sims Blossom and Lily with the last name Bloom😭
@@chloejulianna_ $100 she def got Inspo from sims for sure
“peace and love, actually, so much hate and vitriol“ so real.
31:36 for anyone curious
you being so convinced that this book was satire until it was too late was so funny 😭😭
Tbh, I don't blame her. There's no way this book could NOT be it. Except it isn't 😪
You: I hate books with diary entries
Dracula: and I took that personally
i hate it just for the fact that her books were starting to die down in popularity at the book store i work at but now they're spiking in popularity again because of this stupid show so now i have to see her books all the time again 💀
I really liked working at a bookstore in some ways, but not having to see cases and cases of Colleen Hoover books knowing that they would sell out in a few days has definitely improved my quality of life lol. although I suppose that goes same for all the books I know in my soul to be dog shit but people love them earnestly anyway, its maddening to watch up close
35:14 For the uninitiated:
The drama is that Coleen and Blake Lively (Lily Bloom actress) are promoting the movie as a romcom and not warning people about the sensitive topics (Domestic Violence).
BUT the male director, who is also the main actor who plays the abusive guy, is promoting by himself, never with Coleen and Blake, and he’s discussing the sensitive topics and warning people about that part of the movie. He’s NOT treating it like a flowery romcom.
Also something something Ryan Reynolds (Blake’s husband) rewrote the rooftop scene, potentially during the Writer’s Strike, and it’s speculated that the director didn’t like that. Also there was a director’s cut of the movie and a Blake/Coleen cut of the movie and the one in theaters is the Blake/Coleen version.
“Grab your friends and your florals!” 🤪
Also, Blake used the movie promotions to sell her own hair care brand AND alcohol with the name of y the abuser in the movie/book.
Wait, Ryan Reynolds rewrote the scene and the director doesn't like it?? Mad sus
As a florist with a flower ass given name, it's sick, every one loves it.
“Lily Blossom Bloom” is a my little pony oc that gets shipped with fluttershy, not a human being
34:15 I unfortunately have experience with this sort of situation. My father abused my mom, and she eventually gained the courage to lock him out of the house and divorce him. She did not want to coparent with him, but the courts where I live forced her to. When I was in 3rd grade, my dad ended up with custody half the time instead of every other weekend. My father was abusive and neglectful, and my mom fought to protect me but couldn't. I turn 18 soon, and my mom only got full custody of me last month despite everything my father did.
So, it is possible for someone to be forced to coparent with an abuser. I don't think that's what's happening in the book, but I felt that was important to say. Survivors with children have so many extra hurdles to go through to fully escape an abuser.
I do want to be clear, though. I am not a fan of this book. It has potential, but I don't think it really handles this subject as well as it could have.
i am so sorry all of that happened to you. i really hope you're doing good now and that your mom is alright as well. 🫶🏻
I haven’t read any coho but I’ve been DEEP in the trenches of watching multiple hours long videos going in depth on her books and honestly, this one is probably the least unhinged. Despite ignoring all of Ryle’s early red flags (stalking, coercion) he’s at least labeled as an abuser eventually. In the majority of her books this behaviour is romanticized and desirable. Colleen Hoover is actually my nemesis fr
also hi, fellow Canadian lesbian here 😋
Same same same agree agree on almost everything you mentioned - never read a coho book but will watch every single hours long video about them. And the fact that this one is the least unhinged is still baffling to me.
wait I also work in early childhood education. Are we the same person?
@@tungstensmum1491she also never shows us, she just tells. All of her characters are essentially the same. I’ll never understand how she’s so popular. 😢
Omg were they Nicole raffie’s? Because SAME
I totally agree with your opinions about how she doesn't market the book (or movie) as being about domestic violence! Colleen Hoover is notoriously bad for not including trigger warnings in any of her books because she thinks they give spoilers, which is just 😬
One thing that has always upset me about this book is how similar Ryle (who is rightfully portrayed as an abuser and left at the end) is to so many of Colleen's male love interests, who are NOT portrayed as abusers, even though a lot of them are very much abusive mentally and some even sexually (most famously the scene in November 9 which was taken out after public criticism). In fact, I kind of feel that the only real difference is that Ryle's abuse gets physical. To me that sounds dangerously close to "only physical abuse is real abuse" which is unfortunately a common opinion and really harmful. "It Ends With Us" is not inherently a bad or harmful book but imo it just feels tone-deaf to write a book about abuse when you can't even address the toxicity and abusive tendencies of your (supposedly good, at most morally grey) love interests :/
Just wanted to get that off my chest, I loved the video!
Absolutely - Any positive messaging in IEWU falls flat because *all* of CoHo's leading men are toxic/abusive (even after the scene was changed, the dude from Nov9 is still extremely sexually aggressive, to put it gently).
And in IEWU Atlas who is supposed to be the good dude displays many problematic tendencies ( the weird age gap, the peeping on her, putting his suicide on her just before engaging in sexual behaviour, the way he corners her in the bathroom after she had been abused and then humiliates the man he knows is physically abusive) that are completely ignored by the text
So yeah I wont give coho any grace for the way she handled abuse in IEWU
(ALSO am I the only one who is icked out that she wrote smut inspired by her abusive dad????)
@@not_actually_a_jellybean Wait, she did what???? I did not know that, yikes 😬
Edit: Also yes to everything you said!
@@schneefall3935 I mean kinda... she said IEWU was inspired by her experience of her dad abusing her mum...and it contains v graphic smut btw lily and ryle. Maybe I am reading into this too much, but that's kinda weird isnt it ?
@@not_actually_a_jellybean Ohhhh okay, I thought she wrote another thing about her dad or something! My brain just didn't work for a sec there... Yeah, you're absolutely right, that is pretty weird
My problem is that Colleen writes rhyle as this “terrible abusive guy” and writes this whole story about how this type of man is dangerous, but then turns around and makes the rest of her male main characters the SAME WAY just without the physical abuse.
This was in the Romance section, so I didn't know what I was getting myself into and I felt so betrayed. That's literally the section for Love and Happy Endings and Safety. I actually went back and complained about the shelving and the librarian was shocked (she hadn't read it) and moved all the books out of the section and put up a post-it with a warning.
The key to any woman's heart: cow poop 😔✊
you know it !!
I love the glasses
No eye sight squad❤
yessss blind baddies for the win !!
I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THE SURPRISE SCAT FETISH!!!!! 😭😭😭
As a florist myself, i almost had a stroke trying to comprehend her stupid ass shop idea and the thought process behind it 😭.
That's just complete detachment from reality at this point, Colleen.
the ending with their child being left with Ryle alone makes me so mad. i’m an ECE too, and the amount of neglect and abuse i witness and report from parents is so heartbreaking. some parents don’t deserve children, but all children deserve to have proper parents.
I like a lot of gory, violent media, and something I've learned is that a trigger warning is ALWAYS worth it. Even if it spoils the book, even if it "ruins" the twist, it's always worth it, because it can prevent a complete mental breakdown. Getting a book "ruined" for you, and reading it even though you know the twist, is WAY better than reading a book and getting triggered, or just disgusted and horrified.
The James Joyce letter is the most horrifying thing I’ve heard in the entirety of my online life. Why are the descriptions are so eloquent??!😭
Criminal.
I literally started crying from both terror and ridiculousness of those letteres when she started reading one entry on the video... My brain chemistry have changed and will never be the same after that.
Hey at least both of them were into it
@@randomasspirate3630 Yeah good for them, glad they matched each other's freak
Jail
@@satanspizza-dq6xf Yeah, I mean, if those letters weren't supposed to be published... yeah they could be as freaky as they wanted with each other in private as long as they were both into it.
Eugh, Colleen Hoover is... definitely a writer.... of books... (derogatory)
I don’t know when your channel popped onto my feed (maybe 6 months ago?), and I don’t know why I watched the episode.
I am certainly not your chosen demographic.
But I loved it.
I watched the back catalogue, and I now get to spend another 40 minutes watching this episode. Like hot soup on a cold day when you’re feeling unwell, this channel is pure joy.
Thank you for making the world just a little nicer.
“Like hot soup on a cold day” is exactly how I feel about this channel too. Just a bestie telling me about the terrible book she just read.
I have to be honest, a florist character named Lily Blossom Bloom is SO campy and ridiculous that I kind of love it.
If this was the cute little over the top romcom I’d be totally fine with the name
i’m dying the shock you experienced about the $10 an hour… i hate it here! ❤️🇺🇸🦅
I literally worked a job for 3 years and barely got up to $10.25USD/hr 😅🦅
popping in to add that if you get tips, they don’t have to meet minimum wage (at least in my state) & in 2018 i was getting paid $4.25/hr + tips 😵💫
I feel like more people need to be aware that abuse does not have to be deliberate. even if someone “accidentally” is blocking doorways, breaking your stuff, “forgetting” important things re: your health and mental wellbeing (in a detrimental way) it is still abuse.
honestly, i feel like the majority of abuse isn't deliberate, in the sense that abusers don't sit around consciously plotting to terrorize their victims. people seem to believe that that is indeed the case though, which is what makes calling out abusive acts for what they are so difficult.
I don't think deliberate is quite the right word there. Your point is valid but I'd probably phrase it as "Abuse doesn't have to be direct" That is, abuse can be the direct form of undeniable physical violence or verbal abuse; it can also be the indirect things like how your stuff always ends up getting broken (but never the other person's), "forgetting" things that are important, letting air out of the tire so as to be able to berate you for not paying attention to the tire pressure in the passenger rear tire of the vehicle, blocking paths, forgetting important things, etc. Yes, I am a DV survivor who divorced my ex and the tire thing was something that happened *all the time* when I was still with him. Weirdly, after he went to jail (for violating my order of protection) I haven't had a single instance of my tire inexplicably going low (and it's now 14 years since I got free).
@@anishinaabaeI agree 100%, I actually found myself googling “does abuse have to be on purpose” and in that I discovered that very often it isn’t premeditated evil like I thought. very eye opening for me
my middle name is colleen. with colleen hoover and colleen ballinger, i might need to look into changing my middle name
That would probably be for the best
as we say in french, never two without three, theres a third colleen!! shes an artist on ytb n shes also a dick
Love the intermission to learn some ✨️history✨️
colleen hoover is INSANE istg
truly an insane literary experience
i was even more shocked when i found out Collen Hoover wanted to make a coloring book based on this book
insane
She also made a nail polish line, and I doubt any of the proceeds went towards dv foundations
Re: Baldoni directing and playing Ryle -- from what I have heard, he did not originally intend to play Ryle, while he did intend to direct and in fact bought the rights to the movie a couple years ago. Apparently Hoover was the one who wanted him to play Ryle, and as she is the author he agreed to do so.
I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts on Justin Baldoni directing and playing Ryle (sp?) and I actually just saw a clip of an interview of the guy that played Spike on Buffy talking about a similar experience where his character SA’ed Buffy and that filming that scene did traumatize him so much that he refuses to play that kind of character or do those kinds of scenes anymore.
That sudden scat nonsense stabbed me in the eyes, good heavens
15:20 There are TOO many people from the olden days writing nasty letters and then keeping them for posterity. I had the pleasure (/s) of doing a report on Mozart in high school. That man is nasty. And I’ve heard about Napoleon’s letters to his wife. In a hygienic way, absolutely disgusting. They had so much time to burn them but chose to let their descendants find them, and then the descendants chose to curse us with the knowledge of them 😭
thank you for single handedly curing my depression this weekend
I’ll never let anyone forget the IEWU coloring book pitch
wtf...
As much as I don’t like Colleen Hoover, I live in Boston, and the minimum wage when the book was released was actually $10 an hour as bad as that is, it went up 75 cents a year to get it to $15 while they decreased percentage of pay on sundays until it was a normal day rate (it used to be time and a half)
Really just broke at the cow scat fet
They made this into a MOVIE?????
You’re eating with those glasses queen
The James Joyce letter made me inhale my saliva and cough for a solid fifteen seconds, been years since the written word has given me such a visceral reaction.
I also didn’t know there was a movie until its release and the ~drama~ surrounding it
we had the exact same real time reaction at 14:40 😭😭😭😭😭
The more that comes out about this specific book the more my soul dies thank you for suffering through this
When you said the guy shows up on the roof and starts kicking a chair in the beginning of the book, immediately I just thought of when sims are angry and kick over trash cans to feel something💀 what is this book
I live for this channel.
ETA: I am very grateful for the timestamps.
Its like you knew i was sitting down to crochet
So excited to watch this! I've been obsessed with your videos since I found your channel and binged them all, your energy is just incredible, i love it!
*peace and love girlie* I'm in ECE too and can confirm takes so much patience even if you're a calm person and LOVE what you're doing. People who are pretty nice but not that committed or not that patient don't even make it working with little kids, so if you're an emotionally unstable, *angry* person??? Absolutely not. So right, that's 100% unsafe but unfortunately the courts usually do not care if the mother has been a victim of domestic violence and will still give the dad 50% custody especially if they're loaded like this clown and idk if Colleen was thinking about it that cynically but it's probably better for the kiddo in the long run for Lily to get along with him and give him days than to duke it out in court.
Found your channel a little over a month ago and it was an INSTANT subscribe. Was waiting for you to post again. Never stop giving us hilarious content queen x
A girl in my class lent me this book and told me she absolutely loved it. Safe to say I am now more select with whom I take recommendations from now. That book was a prime example of when Wattpad writing manages to slip through the cracks into the mainstream world. Shout out Collen, no one romanticises statutory like you babe!
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I cringe every time the name “Atlas” is said because I reminds me of reading Wattpad stories (probably way too young) and that is definitely a name a 14 year old would think was a cool bad boy name. I can bet you real money I read a Wattpad story where the male love interest was named “Atlas King”. Also I know someone who owns a Donkey named Atlas so it is just a ridiculous name for a person to me. Also love all the “Ellen photos”. I burst out laughing out load in the car and scared my mom.😂
Statistically, anytime a man abuses their partner, they will end up abusing the children too.
Personally, it's very true and I wish I didn't have the mother that would turn a blind eye to it.
Lowkey this really made my day because its also my birthday
yoooo happy birthday!!
Omg your glasses are cute 😭
"Just follow your dreams or whatever" -Ainslee
You are the only person I would listen to explain the plot of It Ends With Us
tbh i always thought that the reason why the director was also the main love interest was because he seemed to want to make the movie a movie about domestic abuse unlike the romcom blake lively and coleen hoover is advertising it as but i could be wrong and misinterpreting it
I’ve never read this book but the beginning its giving The Stranger in that you have to watch the main character make terrible decisions
I watched the movie yesterday. after just listening to all the contevrsy of it and also knowing about the DV part of it ahead of time.
From how you summed the book, the movie improved on the source materiel so much!
Atlas and Lily's relationship really seemed genuine, heartfelt, and had moments that made me like Lily's really one note and flat character compared to her adult version.
And how the DV was portrayed, the guy had his red flag moments of rage, but all of the abuse moments did seems like accidents rather then deliberate abuse? Which I found so strange, and of course there is excusing abuse, the SA scene was a scary situation I wouldn't wish on anyone.
But yeah, I would never read her books, Justin Baldoni I think gave the source materiel some justice and to actually portray the message the book, and handle DV in a more real-life kind of way that the average watcher could self insert and reflect on their own experience.
“This book is like eating packing peanuts” 😂😂
Oh my gosh I am in early childhood education too and I had the same reaction!! Especially the whole "he doesn't even remember it happening" like girly surely you see how that's not a good thing??? Not a get out of jail free card??? What a mess of a book. I absolutely agree too that the marketing behind it & the movie is really Not It. People have the right to know beforehand if they're going to be reading about an abusive relationship and not the cute rom com it tries to make itself out to be.
Peace and love, no actually hate and vitriol ICONIC
the only authority in the universe of book commentary whose input i gaf about in regards to this pr/cinematic/parasocial/literary fiasco
I agree with your review and I applaud you for the comedic delivery of your good remarks. One thing though. Lily is probably forced to co-parent with Ryle due to the law. I don't think she has a choice to parent Dory all by herself.
Also, I will wait for the day I see your new throne of glass book review. That's the funniest shit ever😂 thanks for another fun watch!
I’m glad you like my silly videos! And yes I agree!! Logically I understand why they ended up co-parenting, but to me it just felt like a weirdly sanitized way to end the book? Like “one year later it all turned out okay and we all lived happily ever after” vibes which doesn’t fit with the rest of it
Although, the book was tonally a mess so really I don’t know why I expected anything better
I’m so glad I didn’t finish this book. I found atlas’s and Lilly’s relationship so icky. Bless you for this video.
Also your hair looks pretty :3
U should totally read the twisted series by Ana Huang. They are unhinged but soooo entertaining.
10:04 Call me dramatic, but personally, I would never speak to Ryle again after this. If it were me, the book would've ended immediately after this scene and be an eighth of the length it is now. Do not proposition me while touching my gravity connectors.
This book came out a while ago so to be fair the minimum wage could have been $10 an hour in Massachusetts then
Edit: googled it and yeah in 2016 the minimum wage was actually $10.
Bahaha the way I didn’t even consider that thank you for your service 🫶😔
Omg yay I found your channel like a month ago and binge watched all the videos. I’m so happy you posted again and about Colleen Hoover fudge yeah!
Yyyyyyyyes PERFECT for my dinner repast! Love your videos!
i love your content so much actually 😭 you just GET it
Just follow your dreams, or whatever 3:51 amazingly said
I’m a fic writer and the idea of not tagging like important trigger topics is so wild to me. Like people will still read your stuff even if they like know the basics of what’s gonna happen, it’s also good to make sure people aren’t getting in over their heads!
Tangent over, excellent video very funny :)
I love u shitty book club. They could never make me not love u.
I read this book like two years ago and had ZERO idea it was about DV bc of the summary on the back and the fact that it was marketed as a rom com. This book messed me up for a week after because of how the DV was portrayed. I didn’t hate the book but I can’t get behind it due to the marketing and lack of trigger warnings 😮💨
God I love this channel, thanks for keeping us company while we do whatever
omg no way did you upload on my day off
day = made
We needed you to cover this 🙏
Authors not including trigger warnings for this kind of thing is so gross. I totallly agree. If you were comfortable enough in your writing and in the story why wouldn’t you make sure that your readers are in the right mental space to feel the impact
@apayne205 in 2024, it is very easy to find information about a book. If you need trigger warnings, you shouldn't view material with first looking it up. We have to do a better job using discernment and common sense.
@@JennHayden I read tons of books that let the reader know to check the authors website for trigger warnings, list them at the beginning, or a note that they are at the end, or even mention there may be triggering content, something to prompt a check. It is very little effort to make sure that your reader is in the right space to consume content that could be potentially harmful. It is a very common practice for an author to mention that kind of thing before the book starts
There are content warning on all kinds of media, and in my opinion, there’s no reason for (especially mainstream) books to be any different 😊
I would like to see your opinion on more of her work. I have only heard negative things, and I don't know if I'd ever read one of her books, but I would like to know what she might be doing well to get people to keep reading them.
Thank you for blessing us with another unhinged rant. I live for this 🫶🏼
I live in Boston and the minimum wage is around 15.5$ and 16$ which is an improvement form 10$ but is still nothing. Specially for a city as expensive as Boston.
I definitely *didn't* illegally download a copy of this book in like 2016/2017, during the peak ibookpile days, with 0 context of the content or coleen hoover and fully judged it by its cover as a romance.
But I will say this book was my first (and only i think?) 1 star on goodreads and is the reason I have since refused to read any of her other books and actively recommended a friend NOT read her. everything I read about her after, and more recently with the movie coming out, I'm glad I've stayed away
You should read the Lightlark series by Alex Aster. It is a book series that infuriates me, and yet I couldn't put it down 😅
I read lightlark when it came out I couldn’t put it down but I didn’t continue because it instantly turned into a hate read lol
I was just binging all of your vids!! Glad I have a new one!!
It's so nice to see one of your videos again. I've veen really goin through it and your silly reviews are such a balm to my gay little heart💖💖💖
that’s so kind! I’m glad my silly little videos can bring some levity to a tough time ❤️
HOW AM I THIS EARLY OMFG
SAMEEEE
did we NEED the james joyce tangent. ask yourself deep in your heart. did we NEED it
26:24 Having never read the wild ride of a book-- maybe that's the point of it? Like you don't know if it was really an accident or not, you're very confused, are they actually a good person, etc?
I would be inclined to agree, but Colleen Hoover's messy personal drama and the way she writes/treats the love interests in her other books makes it a lot harder to figure out how you're supposed to feel about Ryle. I personally don't think she was the right author to write this kind of book.
I have been patiently waiting for this video!!! 😁😁
I enjoy watching your reviews so much!
I agree, the book doesn't seem to be as bad as people make it out to be (though it's still not good). However, with the kinda shitty writing and the Ellen bit, the intention of the story is pretty confusing. I also definitely can see someone picking up this book, reading the description, and thinking it was some dramatic romance story, not a story about domestic violence. It's a little too wishy-washy with its purpose.
omg I was just binge watching all your videos, I'm so happy!!!!
Honestly, I'd love an awareness book on abusive/toxic relationships that actually spreads awareness and acknowledges it is abusive. I want a book like that to help people. I love books like The Fault In Our Stars, All The Bright Places and Dear Evan Hansen, which are all sort of awareness books that are accurate and have phone numbers to call to help and what to do while being amazing, having the best characters and are accurate.
i’m still not convinced this isn’t satire
You're talking amazing girl. That was so interesting as someone who watched the movie
I think some scientists think that our laughter sound is derived from a play-fight panting sound, which is why it might show up during other times where a harder breathing response happens (like stress)
As a Lilly I hate my name a little bit because of this book.
if that can outweigh the bad from this specific lily, the lily is associated with one of the mosy beloved women, the virgin mary (its a symbol of her purityor smth), i think its pretty sick + u can try to forget colleen's lily n think abt mary
The funny thing is in Italy we don't even have minimum wage lol🤣 8:40
Hello I love your videos!!! I became a fan somewhat recently and I'm so excited to hear your opinion about the book since I am interested but not enough to read it myself.