Andrew's eyes lightened up when he did the math the first time "... I think I can kill you." As charming as it was, the second calculation ended on an even more delightful note; an f-bomb strong enough to make the staff turn around.
When you guys made the small play error at the 4 minute mark, you were wrong in your assessment. The loyal unicorn does NOT die. Loyal Unicorn prevents ALL combat damage to creatures you control. He is Dolmen Gate on a dude when your commander is in play. So, since all damage is prevented, including deathtouch damage, the unicorn would live on. Sorry to "rules lawyer" it
6:57 maximus pays to regenerate the sword with joiras tool box right? Because it can only regenerate artifact creatures. I mean, it didn't matter at the end but still
Came down to say this in the comments as well. I was initially confused as to why Jhoira's Toolbox was in the deck, but it makes more sense if you think it works fall all artifacts.
I like your land tribal deck. In all seriousness, I don't think I've ever seen someone have a land drop per turn, even after searching for lands multiple times
Poor Kediss getting wrong like that! So nice to see someone play Kediss. Such a under rated commander that people understand real quick how good he really is!
Loyal Unicorn shouldn't have died at 3:44 - its trigger prevents combat damage that would be dealt to Kevin's creatures (including itself) that turn, which would include deathtouch. Also if I see one more video with a voltron or infect player splitting their damage im going to scream
Was there like a table deal or something to stop Guit from killing you Andrew? Cuz you were very open that whole game LOL. Fun time all in all, fun to see mutate it still around.
Merit also exists in putting a player in check but not eliminating them. We saw an example of this when Andrew agreed to tap down Maximus's board with Naya Charm so Guit could attack Maximus for lethal.
Man i have to admire you persistence. You've been banging on with this Ramos mutate pile for like a year now and it's still just seems to be so... underwhelming.
Realistically... Any 5 color that isn't human. Ramos is fun and cool. Granted I don't do all the charms to get the add benefits. Also I have gone games with out playing Ramos and just took over the game with just the 5 color mutate syengry
i tried this deck and found it similarly underwhelming - It feels like it wants to go in several directions at once (commander mutate, bogles, charms etc) and i never found it had a solid win condition. I ended up converting into Brokkos, with a more clear intent of mutating him onto cheap hexproof creatures and hitting for commander damage.
@@BelieMyBurial the problem is Andrew also wants to use Ramos, which means he doesn't come online until he 6 mana, and then doesn't do anything with him until he next untaps. I also built a Ramos mutate deck, and I agree that initially the deck was extremely unfocused, sort of being pulled in multiple directions. You've just gotta either commit to Ramos being the game plan, or mutate, not both. He's too expensive to be a good target for mutate creatures and is too much of a lightning rod for removal. Cards like Slippery Bogle and Cephalid Constable are much better as they come down early, and either lock someone out fast or are just difficult to remove. I'm so thankful to Andrew for getting me onto 5c mutate, as it's a lot of fun. But I really wish he'd take a hard look at his Ramos deck, as it feels like it doesn't function well ATM
Fynn was the first deck I made when I started playing MTGO, because I could basically grab most of the deathtouch creatures off the freebots right away. Sadly, MTGO randos being the crapshoot that they are, I never really got a good game with the deck because of constant "OMG infect, kill him!!!!1" so I dismantled the deck and moved on to other things. Nowadays I don't even play with randos anymore, just with an online playgroup and have a much better time with it.
As someone with a Fynn deck, I absolutely do not understand why that card is in the deck in the first place, and why she would play that turn one over her 1-cmc deathtoucher. That cost her two free attacks with it.
You've been playing Ramos and Shorikai a lot and they are not doing great lastly. You keep the whole match mana flooding or without mana. Your best matches in the last videos were with our good old Mistform. The other's were more like "He is holding something for the next turn" and it never cames 😂
Andrew's eyes lightened up when he did the math the first time "... I think I can kill you." As charming as it was, the second calculation ended on an even more delightful note; an f-bomb strong enough to make the staff turn around.
Honestly prime “20 commander damage” mood. Hate that
When you guys made the small play error at the 4 minute mark, you were wrong in your assessment. The loyal unicorn does NOT die. Loyal Unicorn prevents ALL combat damage to creatures you control. He is Dolmen Gate on a dude when your commander is in play. So, since all damage is prevented, including deathtouch damage, the unicorn would live on. Sorry to "rules lawyer" it
No apology necessary! It's a good catch and one we can learn from.
All fair, I created two extra clues anyway. It's just cheater karma, lol.
You were so kill-able that whole game😂
I'm like that most games
6:57 maximus pays to regenerate the sword with joiras tool box right? Because it can only regenerate artifact creatures. I mean, it didn't matter at the end but still
Came down to say this in the comments as well. I was initially confused as to why Jhoira's Toolbox was in the deck, but it makes more sense if you think it works fall all artifacts.
Thanks for posting the decks in the comments. That sophina/Wernog deck looks interesting
Where?
That clue deck is giving some juicy ideas to implement on my Tivit artifact deck...
Oh! I was actually considering Tivit when I built this one. Ima sucker for red tho, so that's what sold me Sophie/Weiner.
I like your land tribal deck. In all seriousness, I don't think I've ever seen someone have a land drop per turn, even after searching for lands multiple times
Poor Kediss getting wrong like that! So nice to see someone play Kediss. Such a under rated commander that people understand real quick how good he really is!
Kediss showed some cool interactions there, I didn't realize the +20 life! That Sophina deck had some real awesome synergy
Jhoira's Toolbox can only regenerate artifact creatures. You learn something every day.
Loyal Unicorn shouldn't have died at 3:44 - its trigger prevents combat damage that would be dealt to Kevin's creatures (including itself) that turn, which would include deathtouch. Also if I see one more video with a voltron or infect player splitting their damage im going to scream
I shouldve read the comments first. I said the same thing
Was there like a table deal or something to stop Guit from killing you Andrew? Cuz you were very open that whole game LOL. Fun time all in all, fun to see mutate it still around.
She said she felt bad for me, haha
@@MTGMuddstah Lmao antithesis of a Fynn player, she still did a good job with what she had.
Merit also exists in putting a player in check but not eliminating them. We saw an example of this when Andrew agreed to tap down Maximus's board with Naya Charm so Guit could attack Maximus for lethal.
Great game but wow just seeing Maximus' playmat and now want one, anyone know where to pickup a copy of that mat?
According to Max; playmat was bought as a promo item when he did a judge conference somewhere in between Ottawa and Toronto.
@@CurlyHeadGod Awe thats a bummer but thanks for the info!
Doesn't it stop combat damage the unicorn with it's ability so deathtouch wouldn't work cause no damage was dealt to it
Man i have to admire you persistence. You've been banging on with this Ramos mutate pile for like a year now and it's still just seems to be so... underwhelming.
When you can get a Ramos mutate pile start, it gets scary... Fast. I also run a Ramos mutate deck. It's fun
@@scabman1 mutate seems like a fun mechanic, but aren't there any more reliable Commanders for it?
Realistically... Any 5 color that isn't human. Ramos is fun and cool. Granted I don't do all the charms to get the add benefits. Also I have gone games with out playing Ramos and just took over the game with just the 5 color mutate syengry
i tried this deck and found it similarly underwhelming - It feels like it wants to go in several directions at once (commander mutate, bogles, charms etc) and i never found it had a solid win condition. I ended up converting into Brokkos, with a more clear intent of mutating him onto cheap hexproof creatures and hitting for commander damage.
@@BelieMyBurial the problem is Andrew also wants to use Ramos, which means he doesn't come online until he 6 mana, and then doesn't do anything with him until he next untaps.
I also built a Ramos mutate deck, and I agree that initially the deck was extremely unfocused, sort of being pulled in multiple directions.
You've just gotta either commit to Ramos being the game plan, or mutate, not both. He's too expensive to be a good target for mutate creatures and is too much of a lightning rod for removal. Cards like Slippery Bogle and Cephalid Constable are much better as they come down early, and either lock someone out fast or are just difficult to remove.
I'm so thankful to Andrew for getting me onto 5c mutate, as it's a lot of fun. But I really wish he'd take a hard look at his Ramos deck, as it feels like it doesn't function well ATM
Those were some spicey decks!
Naya Charm best charm
Fynn was the first deck I made when I started playing MTGO, because I could basically grab most of the deathtouch creatures off the freebots right away. Sadly, MTGO randos being the crapshoot that they are, I never really got a good game with the deck because of constant "OMG infect, kill him!!!!1" so I dismantled the deck and moved on to other things. Nowadays I don't even play with randos anymore, just with an online playgroup and have a much better time with it.
Mmmm Kediss represent. Even if he lost first my precious lizard boy did work
How did Kediss survive at 5:18? He doesn't have first strike
Fynn had -4/-0 from the dungeon trigger from Sophina deck
SOPHINA / WERNOG!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!
Honestly the funnest thing I've ever played!
God, I wish Fynn was golgari. As mono-green, sometimes you really find yourself stuck or out of steam.
Sadly no Fynn decklist 😮💨
i love ramos
Why does Max miss so many plays? I only hear Max missplays this or misscasts that
"Maximus plays" sounds a lot like "Max misplays"
Sexy goblin noise
Low key not seeing the sponsors and straight to the game threw me off
Play a spelltable game with fans . ill show you decks you have not seen a lot around here
Bruh Golden Urn is terrible, if Guit had replaced that card with a 1/1 deathtouch creature he could’ve won
Fwiw I hear Andrew refer to guit as she.
As someone with a Fynn deck, I absolutely do not understand why that card is in the deck in the first place, and why she would play that turn one over her 1-cmc deathtoucher. That cost her two free attacks with it.
@@armoric ah okay
Your decks are getting depressive, specially Ramos and Shorikai
What do you mean?
You've been playing Ramos and Shorikai a lot and they are not doing great lastly. You keep the whole match mana flooding or without mana. Your best matches in the last videos were with our good old Mistform. The other's were more like "He is holding something for the next turn" and it never cames 😂
Sometimes that’s the game. You don’t get what you need when you need it.