Mike. I have watched your channel for years. I seem to remember when you built that building that you ran radiant tubing thru the whole floor. Not sure if you have had any experience with radiant heat but it truly kicks butt. If you open the garage door in the winter as soon as you close the door you wouldn’t even know you opened it. Hook it up. Get it going. Not sure if the different sides of the building are on different circuits , if so you could just heat that side. Once slab is warm it is really cheap to run. Look into it.
I run my 60x80 on radiant heat fueled by a wood boiler. This is the only way to go. I spend zero dollars on propane and my electric bill is $125 in the winter.
We’re getting ready to hook up our wood fired boiler and radiant floor heating system in our 56x56 Barndo at our off-grid property in N. Idaho. Pretty excited for it!
Often times people are not willing to enumerate the shortcomings of an item they paid a lot of money for. We appreciate your honesty about all of your equipment.
I don't know how often I have to tell you this, but if you'd activate your in floor heat you wouldn't have those long recovery times after opening the doors. I have it in my garage. I can open the door on a brutally cold day and the temperature recovers in minutes. When you have in floor heat it becomes a huge thermal storage unit.
Mike: I used to take my Dodge Power Wagon to the car wash every Sunday. After about a year I noticed it was rusting at the fenders. I checked with the car wash owner and he told me they use recycled water for the wash. Well in the winter the water is full of salt. That was pushed into all the little areas in the fender and started the rust. I would check with the car wash there to see if the water is recycled. Even the floor rotted out in a few years.
I remember back when cities were forcing new car wash owners to recycle their water due to runoff and cities cost to remove the chemicals from the sewer systems this was in the mid-late 70’s
@ I bet they were. I coat my truck frame and body with fluid film and don’t wash it during the winter. It’s not pretty but at least I’m not washing off my preservative.
I think I heard you say you were considering covering your firewood, the guy on Luma acres channel uses baskets also to put his firewood in, and he has cut the top out of the plastic liners, turned them over and put them down over top of the baskets to cover his firewood. Works pretty slick.
@ turn on the news & your learn about a helicopter flying into a passenger A A flight making its final approach into Regan airport…. Not good No survivors
Greg from northern Michigan. It must be made from 'expensium' ... Don't know much about these new style of kerosine fueled radiant style heaters ... Time will tell ...
I love everything about this channel. Sharing from 3 decades knowledge. Hook up the in floor on a pro balanced manifolds. That will allow specific and pinpoint accuracy to each loop in the floor. Now many will say you need a 110 deg water in the floor that’s not the case you can adjust down on 200-250 ft loops in the low 90s no issues. Balanced is the key here. Put in a primary and secondary loops near power plant (gas,oil your choice). Near boiler you will pipe a (low temp and high temp loop on closely spaced Tees. Many ways to do injection,mix ect. Now you have a high temp loop run a hot water unit heater fan forced (many ways to control accurately and based on demand). I am not sure how big exactly that section of your shop is however critical that that unit heater is sized properly. I suggest in all those loops high and low temp circulation is done in the method of pumping away. Using Smart circulator that will adjust the flow and head for each loop based on the balance required per zone.
Mike - I just had my first pole barn built this last summer/fall on my rural property. Like you, i had the in-floor tubing put in for heating the concrete floors. My HVAC guy is almost done installing the heating unit for it and I think you would have been better off spending your $1700 on that system, than your Sun Fire heater IMO. I haven't heard you talk about your in-floor heating system in a long time, so I was wondering if you ever have any plans to get it working. I know you love your wood stove, but if your in floor system is set up for different zones, you can just use it for your garage/shop area.
Not sure how many people can hear it, but there is a very high pitch 12K frequency tone coming from the video while in the shop talking about the heater. Ends about 4:00. Not a big deal but worth the thought if its above what you can hear while in there or editing. Love all you do Mike!!
Use your radiant heating system that you instajjed. The heat source is boiler (electric, oil#2 or natural gas or propane) or a heat pump (air to water or water to water). Health wise a boiler is better and safer. Your red combustion heater has no chimney to evacuate the combustion gases. With the red heater, you need to open a window to let fresh air inside your building when you start the red heater. You could install a wood boiler certified to be installed inside a building.
Mike, I'm going to date myself. BNack several decades ago when we were in WV we used one of those KeroSuns. We put it into the basement to help the wood stove take off the chill in the winter. It only had an odder when you 1st started it up. It burned kerosene the good stuff. But it was cheaper than using the electric baseboards. Not sure if one of those would have sufficed for you as they were over 18KW. Thanks for all the work presenting us with your videos.
As many have commented on here and not be addressed by Mike is why the underfloor heating has not been finished and being utilised instead of $1,700 on a heater? 🤷♂️
Good morning Mike, Melissa and Hunter. Mike, I was looking at your garage door in the background. I've been in the garage door business for 23 years and I know how you are on maintenance. Be sure to lube your torsion springs, rollers and hinges twice a year. 2/1 oil is best, but most use a spray. We have a spray lube in the industry we use which you can purchase from a garage door company. Most homeowners use WD40 which is better than nothing. I would have a garage door company service it at least once every 2 years. The will adjust the springs as they lose tension, tighten everything up, and lube everything.
A propane water heater would power up that radiant floor heat, but it is slow, and needs to be run continuously. It would take a couple hours to heat up.
Hey Mike, I don't know if you noticed but the comments are saying that you have radiant floor heating in the HQ. In case you missed it in the comments. Have a great day! 😋
Mike I was gonna mention this in your last video about the wood stoves and we love ours in the house but in my 30x60 shop I have an older Reznor waste oil heater and that may be perfect for your situation and if you build a new building I definitely recommend. I only turn it on when I go in the shop and it warms it up very quickly as it’s 250,000 btus. As far as the waste oil is free I burn all my oil that I use in the tractors and vehicles. And I have a few local garages that just give me the oil in 55 gallon drums. Check them out. I have mine mounted up next to the ceiling so it takes up zero floor space.
Good morning Outdoors with the Morgans. After watching your demonstration of the Sunfire heater, I find it to an adequate heater. The Sunfire exceeds my requirements to heat my garage in regard to features and price. Up here in Highgate Vermont we are at 2 degrees and with all the snow we received yesterday, it is definitely turning out to be a Vermont winter. It’s tough to cut logs and split rounds in the cold. Have a great day.
Howdy Mike and all of Morgan Utube folk. Thank you, Mike, for this video. We have been researching heaters for one of our garages. Second winter in Tennessee and this one was a bit chilly. Thank you, might give this one a go to see if it is worth it. Have a day, the Morgan way, everyone!
I bought this last year while building my 14’x56’ two story during the winter and I love this heater. I have no fumes and no headaches. This Sunfire in much quieter than a torpedo heater that I have used.
Hi Mike, great video! Regarding a heater or better yet, heating your manufacturing/storage space. There are quite a few remedies that have been used in industrial spaces to heat localized areas as well as ways to keep the heat in, while the door is open. Not sure if you have natural gas or propane plumbed into the garage. IR heaters are very passive and don't make noise. Reznor forced air mounted high can act as an air curtain while the door is open and also heat the entire space but they make fan noise while operating. They do provide quick make-up heat. A plastic drape curtain is pretty common in front of large doors to help control temp. The ground heater will always be in the way and you will always need to mess with some kind of fuel. There is an odorless kerosene you can try that could get you much closer to "odorless." Just thinking, any way you burn diesel, you are going to smell it. Last thought, didn't you install the floor heat? Have a nice day!
I got one for you. I went to one of my banks yesterday with a check I wrote myself from another account (different bank I use). I deposited the check and then asked for half of the amount back. I left empty handed. They told me I would have to wait 48 hours for it to clear! In the day of everything being instant Chase bank was going to hold my money hostage. Still scratching my head on that one but I voided the check and went to my other bank to get the cash that way. They didn’t have enough cash on hand! I have to come back in today to get my withdrawal. Make that one make sense! BTW I’m only talking about $5k here!
Also got a bank story, wanted some $2.00 bills from the bank to lighten the bulk in my wallet. (You know, for buying those 'nickel' candy bars and gum at the checkout that are $1.89 now !) The bank teller could only scrounge up 4 in the whole bank! Said they could get some in but would take a week!
@ I’ve also heard that before! They are hard to come by for whatever reason. I handed a $2 bill to a younger girl at a gas station a few years ago and she literally went to get her manager because she thought it was fake and no such bill existed! She got a lesson that day.
Hey Mike! I was a diesel mechanic for decades. The last shop I worked in had radiant floor heat. We opened doors all the time. Brought trucks and trailers in covered in ice and snow. The shop stayed warm with the floor heat. It would heat back up within minutes after opening the door. Have you ever even tried your floor heat?
I suspect if Mike just used the in floor heat in the garage it would do a great job of keep it warm with opening and closing the doors. I suspect a way could be devised to create hot water with the existing fireplace and storage tank.
@@MikeSparkman Mike likes the heat and ambiance he gets from using the stove. Using floor heat with the stove heat would be too uncomfortable. That is my guess anyway.
Can't speak for the heater, but it seems as if every product available anywhere has a hyped sales pitch that the product doesn't actually quite live up to...
Hello! 😊 If you want a good portable heater, try a Kerosun. I have the ones called, "Moonlighter". They run on kerosene or diesel, need no electric power to run, make no noise or odor, and provide a light source as well. You can even cook on top of them. They can even be used indoors if you burn kerosene in them. These are great for temporary heat and light during power outages.
Good morning Mike. I've had problems with my nose being plugged up at night. Well, I use a C-pap machine and I used the Flonase for a while but my Dr. told me that after a while your nose gets addicted to the stuff. So, I decided on plan B. I got the Maximum strength Breathrite strips and I started sucking on a Halls wild cherry menthol cough drop every night. It has helped tremendously. Only thing is that I ended up having to put a little piece of paper towel on the breathrite strip across the bridge of my nose because after a few days it was pulling the skin off the bridge of my nose. And when you eat the cough drop breath through your nose it will help open it up. Sorry this is so long but I'm not real good explaining things. God bless and have a wonderful day. 👍👍🙂
Hi Mike, have you looked into overhead door heaters. We had them in every warehouse I worked in and they are quiet and get the job done quickly without any odor! Lauren Rush idaho
In the 80's I had a Pontiac 6000 diesel. It got tremendous mileage. around 40. And it had a large fuel tank. I had filled it when weather was still warm. Weeks later, over a month, the temperature dropped like a rock. I took the car out and it gelled. I towed it home and turned on the ceiling hung heater. After hours that had not improved the situation. So I borrowed a Torpedo heater and jacked the car up on the front. aiming the torpedo down the length of the car. Within an hour I was able to start it. I added #1 diesel and additives to the tank. Since then I've been able to get #2 with additives at most stations. Recently I had filled my Duramax with straight #2 with no additives. We had a sever cold snap. So I left the truck in the heated garage until it warmed up.
I use my credit card for almost all transactions since it has fraud protection. Debit cards are not fraud protected and a better path to your account for bad folks.
I used to work in shipping docks ,and where the doors are being opened several times a day ,and we had large radiant heat on the ceiling. It felt like your in Florida great heat
I have a sunfire, works great for heating up the shop while working in the winter. they are loud and im always ready for it to shut off. Its hooked up to a thermostat and will maintain temperature without nasty fumes.
Mike, i have the same heater. Put a board on the handle and put a box fan on the board and blow the heat from behind. I agree with you on your review, but it doesn't give me a headache or smell as bad as a torpedo heater. If there is a better one, I'd like to try it too. By the way, I live very close to Keene N.H. in Southern Vermont. Thomas.
I do not remember if you comp[eted the radiant in floor heat. Mine was installed with a dedicated gas boiler with gas supply from the house. I barely notice the cost. I just leave it on 55 degrees all the time. The building is 1750 sqft with no windows, just one man door and a 10x18 over head. I suspect you could use a wood fired outdoor boiler.
Good morning folks. Interesting video of burning combustible fuel indoors with a non vented burner. Mike with all your planning on building the HQ building. Why haven't your tried the radiant floor heat system you've installed? Would a NG boiler cost that much to operate? Heating a building that size is a learning process.
I have made several trips straight back from San Angelo Texas to western Kentucky, over 1000 miles. That means 3 gas fill ups. I usually get a phone call from my credit card company reporting possible fraud. About six years ago, I got my card flagged in Florida trying to buy a Sun Pass. If I buy something from an Apple Store, I always get a call from my card company.
Mike be sure to keep up with the Flonase. My ENT doctor has me on it and it helps tremendously. You can miss one day, but two days in a row and the congestion will start to come back. Also use some plain saline spray during the day to help keep things flushed out and keep you from drying up completely.
I received a call from the same type of person - heavy accent. Claimed to be from the IRS. He said I owed the IRS a bunch of money - yeah right. If I didn't pay up I would be arrested. He finally asked for my address. I told him 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington DC - come and get me.
From North Idaho, that Sunfire seems loud to me, not quiet! Maybe everyone else is using it outside. Fortunately for us, we pay $20 a month for unlimited car washes, you could go once a day if you wanted/needed to. It's a drive-thru so you stay in your vehicle and it is all automated, takes about 1 minute and you're done. We have the other types of car washes in our area but for us this is a great option. Nice drive thru the woods and clearing, lots of deer!
Zyrtec did not work for me. So my doc suggested Clartitan D-24. I but the store brand generic. It did the trick. We also buy Nasacort at Costco. Comes in a 4 pack. That spray works great and has no ‘rebound’ effect.
I have a Pro Com forced air heater that puts out 220,000 BTU's when cranked up. Its loud and a little smelly on diesel but Im well vented and it works great. I paid $400.00 5 years ago. This Sunfire small version is 80,000 BTU'S.
Hey Mike. You've got indoor allergies. Me too. My doctor and an allergist told me that. They both said Allegra 180mg before bed. Haven't missed a night of sleep in 10 years. Get a small bottle to try it. Helps 24 hours.
I have the sunfire 80 and totally agree with your review. Way better than any torpedo heater but not silent or odorless. Can you tell who your insurance company is. Can’t find one who will insure a wood burner in an out building.
Good morning young fella as far as the heater goes front of my house one first thing he did was when he got it he left it outside and let it run for one hour to burn off any residual pain or chemicals or whatever that seem to help it when he first starts it up he leaves the door up for about five minutes I don't know if that helps or not it's a good heater it just don't use it inside or finished off as far as scam phone calls go I get them every day nonstop the thing you're talking about is called a card reader they put inside a credit card thing I had a credit card scammed did I don't even use I don't know how they did it just have to be careful this day and age all right have a wonderful week
Mike, Mike, Mike, You don’t want to reheat the air, you want to mitigate the exchange. I founded and ran a manufacturing company and from the beginning (small company) we hung plastic vertical barriers over each garage/dock door. You may do so with a supported bar running under the door, side-to-side. Yes, some air will escape, but you will be surprised ay the effective’s. BTW: it is a bit annoying at times, remove in the summer, but you will save big $’s
Great video, Mike! Just curious if a viable use case for that heater would be more outdoors (like if you were under a canopy as a homebase for sledding or something like that (or would it not do well in a more open scenario)?
What’s bothering you with the cold when you open the door? Don’t you have an insulated partition wall between your living area in HQ & the area by the big door that you purposed for bringing equipment inside originally? All shops & stores usually have those huge electric heaters or garage heaters in the area of the large roll up door. Also you could install a pleated heavy thick plastic strips partition to keep the cold out when open?
That's why I like to have cash. They can't turn off the cash. I am talking about banks and government. Keep as much cash as possible for just that reason.
Mike you should try kerosene on my heater there is way less smoke and smell when on kerosene for the first 5 minutes. I use mine to heater(not the same as yours) a shop and I try to run it empty so that when I do start up I put in 1/2 gallon or so of kerosene and then 10 minutes after start up I add diesel.
You might have a look at Plastic Freezer Strip Curtains for the garage door instead of the heater, it would keep the bugs out in summer or keep warmth in winter
The problem with cash, besides taking up a lot of space in your wallet, is if something happens to it, you can't retrieve it. If you lose it or it is stolen, it's gone for good. If criminals know you have cash, you become a target. They even watch people go to the ATM and follow them home. Also, you end up with loose change everywhere too.
You are correct on the price. However, I thought it should’ve read whatever percentage you wanna throw at it 40 too 70% quieter than a torpedo heater. I went to the tube type infrared heater above my garage door, fuel source is propane.
Those heaters work great but put a huge amount of water in the air. I used one in my two car garage and literally had water streaks coming down the walls. They say it will cause tools to rust but I didnt use it long enough cause that to happen.
Hey Mike I've seen those Sunfire heaters on other TH-cam channels as well and yes all said how great they are,the only difference I myself can tell is you bought it and all the others are sponsored. Have a good day.
Do y’all have the car washes that when you drive through them they wash underneath your truck too. I was just wondering about that to get the salt off the underneath of the truck the frame and all that I’ve seen some of them, but I didn’t know if y’all had them. I’ve been using the Mucinex. The Mucinex has been helping within a day or so it’s done and then you go ahead and take the whole box to keep it from coming back.
Mike we have the Dewalt version of the sunfire n I with you it not quite n if you run it then move to another place n fire back up it rolls coal horribly stinks like raw fuel
Clean it up and return it and put the $1700 towards your boiler for radiant floor heat. I have a Navien tankless boiler that runs on NG. Really efficient. Take care.
Mike, I went with a Reznor for a recovery heater for my building with infloor heat. Game changer. Zero smell. For what that sun fire costs, I think a Reznor is a much more effective way to go for the money.
Good morning Pete, You are Quick Draw McGraw this morning but it's hard to beat Ted. Sounds pretty cold where you are. We have 61° F this morning, going up to 68 later in the day. Pretty wet outside and 97% chance of rain in the forecast. Have a great day! 😊
Mike, i would consider buying some Kerosene to cut down on smell. I dont think you can make diesel odorless. I know its cost a ton, but i guess its like putting liquid gold in your Platinum Heater!
Did the others pay for their heater like you paid for yours? If not, I would question their review. I have looked at that heater, and they are pricey. I just stuck with my torpedo heater.
I love mine! I have the 120. It uses a bit of fuel but the heat is so much better than a torpedo heater, especially the price of kerosene as opposed to the price of diesel. I run mine on a thermostat. It will pay for itself with cost savings on fuel.
Kerosene being a thinner lighter fuel would burn cleaner, less smoke, faster light up, but it is more expensive. I don't own one of these, but I can tell the difference in the jet heater I see do have.
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That's the small one we have a much larger one in our shop and it is quieter than that one and works very well 40x80x20' tall with ceiling fans
Mike. I have watched your channel for years. I seem to remember when you built that building that you ran radiant tubing thru the whole floor. Not sure if you have had any experience with radiant heat but it truly kicks butt. If you open the garage door in the winter as soon as you close the door you wouldn’t even know you opened it. Hook it up. Get it going. Not sure if the different sides of the building are on different circuits , if so you could just heat that side. Once slab is warm it is really cheap to run.
Look into it.
We had it in our 80 by 100 FT. Garage , worked great so warm.
Yes, you are so right about the in floor heat.
I run my 60x80 on radiant heat fueled by a wood boiler. This is the only way to go. I spend zero dollars on propane and my electric bill is $125 in the winter.
We’re getting ready to hook up our wood fired boiler and radiant floor heating system in our 56x56 Barndo at our off-grid property in N. Idaho. Pretty excited for it!
Hahaha…! Mike, it’s very “quiet”…, for what amounts to be an immensely scaled down “jet engine”…
I could have sworn that when Mike built "HQ", he put in radiant floor heat in the concrete, with zones?! No noise! No odor!
I was going to comment this, this moment. Don't believe he's ever fired it up. Why not??
I thought so too but 🤷🏻♂️
Often times people are not willing to enumerate the shortcomings of an item they paid a lot of money for. We appreciate your honesty about all of your equipment.
I don't know how often I have to tell you this, but if you'd activate your in floor heat you wouldn't have those long recovery times after opening the doors. I have it in my garage. I can open the door on a brutally cold day and the temperature recovers in minutes. When you have in floor heat it becomes a huge thermal storage unit.
Mike: I used to take my Dodge Power Wagon to the car wash every Sunday. After about a year I noticed it was rusting at the fenders. I checked with the car wash owner and he told me they use recycled water for the wash. Well in the winter the water is full of salt. That was pushed into all the little areas in the fender and started the rust. I would check with the car wash there to see if the water is recycled. Even the floor rotted out in a few years.
I never thought of that but with all the water they use it only makes sense.
I remember back when cities were forcing new car wash owners to recycle their water due to runoff and cities cost to remove the chemicals from the sewer systems this was in the mid-late 70’s
@ I bet they were.
I coat my truck frame and body with fluid film and don’t wash it during the winter. It’s not pretty but at least I’m not washing off my preservative.
@@dirtgreaseoutdoorpeace6637I've been having my trucks Krowned 😊
I think I heard you say you were considering covering your firewood, the guy on Luma acres channel uses baskets also to put his firewood in, and he has cut the top out of the plastic liners, turned them over and put them down over top of the baskets to cover his firewood. Works pretty slick.
MAAAAAAAAWNIN everyone…Can’t say it’s good…praying 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for all the victims & their families involved in this horrific tragedy in DC…
Good morning Jack , 🙏🙏
Good MAWNIN Jack. I haven't heard about the tragedy yet.
@ turn on the news & your learn about a helicopter flying into a passenger A A flight making its final approach into Regan airport…. Not good
No survivors
Morning Jack. A lotta weirdness happened last night, and some 60-ish people died from it.
@@badcat4707 MAAWNIN BADCAT
1750$ holy hell what is it made of gold
It is also infused with unicorn farts
No but the mfg thinks so!
i suppose its ok for a garage or workshop
Greg from northern Michigan. It must be made from 'expensium' ... Don't know much about these new style of kerosine fueled radiant style heaters ... Time will tell ...
I love everything about this channel. Sharing from 3 decades knowledge. Hook up the in floor on a pro balanced manifolds. That will allow specific and pinpoint accuracy to each loop in the floor. Now many will say you need a 110 deg water in the floor that’s not the case you can adjust down on 200-250 ft loops in the low 90s no issues. Balanced is the key here. Put in a primary and secondary loops near power plant (gas,oil your choice). Near boiler you will pipe a (low temp and high temp loop on closely spaced Tees. Many ways to do injection,mix ect. Now you have a high temp loop run a hot water unit heater fan forced (many ways to control accurately and based on demand). I am not sure how big exactly that section of your shop is however critical that that unit heater is sized properly. I suggest in all those loops high and low temp circulation is done in the method of pumping away. Using Smart circulator that will adjust the flow and head for each loop based on the balance required per zone.
Mike - I just had my first pole barn built this last summer/fall on my rural property. Like you, i had the in-floor tubing put in for heating the concrete floors. My HVAC guy is almost done installing the heating unit for it and I think you would have been better off spending your $1700 on that system, than your Sun Fire heater IMO. I haven't heard you talk about your in-floor heating system in a long time, so I was wondering if you ever have any plans to get it working. I know you love your wood stove, but if your in floor system is set up for different zones, you can just use it for your garage/shop area.
Not sure how many people can hear it, but there is a very high pitch 12K frequency tone coming from the video while in the shop talking about the heater. Ends about 4:00. Not a big deal but worth the thought if its above what you can hear while in there or editing. Love all you do Mike!!
1,700 + Good greif! Just hook up the in floor radiant for that price.
Mike must have his reasons...but he did say why he's not doing it !!!!
Use your radiant heating system that you instajjed. The heat source is boiler (electric, oil#2 or natural gas or propane) or a heat pump (air to water or water to water). Health wise a boiler is better and safer. Your red combustion heater has no chimney to evacuate the combustion gases. With the red heater, you need to open a window to let fresh air inside your building when you start the red heater. You could install a wood boiler certified to be installed inside a building.
Mike, I'm going to date myself. BNack several decades ago when we were in WV we used one of those KeroSuns. We put it into the basement to help the wood stove take off the chill in the winter. It only had an odder when you 1st started it up. It burned kerosene the good stuff. But it was cheaper than using the electric baseboards. Not sure if one of those would have sufficed for you as they were over 18KW. Thanks for all the work presenting us with your videos.
I love the KeroSuns, you can regulate the amount of heat by turning the wick up or down. Every once in a while, clean the carbon off of the wick.
As many have commented on here and not be addressed by Mike is why the underfloor heating has not been finished and being utilised instead of $1,700 on a heater? 🤷♂️
Mike why are you not using the radiant floor, please comment
Good morning Mike, Melissa and Hunter. Mike, I was looking at your garage door in the background. I've been in the garage door business for 23 years and I know how you are on maintenance. Be sure to lube your torsion springs, rollers and hinges twice a year. 2/1 oil is best, but most use a spray. We have a spray lube in the industry we use which you can purchase from a garage door company. Most homeowners use WD40 which is better than nothing. I would have a garage door company service it at least once every 2 years. The will adjust the springs as they lose tension, tighten everything up, and lube everything.
What's the name of the spray lube?
So glad you pointed the short coming out for us folks who think $1800 is lot of money. Thanks for the honest review
I like the honesty on the heater.
Curious why you haven’t hooked up your radiant floor system?
good question ! -- I'd even forgotten that he has one 🙀
Mike said in one video that the wood stove is doing great heating the whole shed
A propane water heater would power up that radiant floor heat, but it is slow, and needs to be run continuously. It would take a couple hours to heat up.
Hey Mike, I don't know if you noticed but the comments are saying that you have radiant floor heating in the HQ. In case you missed it in the comments. Have a great day! 😋
Mike I was gonna mention this in your last video about the wood stoves and we love ours in the house but in my 30x60 shop I have an older Reznor waste oil heater and that may be perfect for your situation and if you build a new building I definitely recommend. I only turn it on when I go in the shop and it warms it up very quickly as it’s 250,000 btus. As far as the waste oil is free I burn all my oil that I use in the tractors and vehicles. And I have a few local garages that just give me the oil in 55 gallon drums. Check them out. I have mine mounted up next to the ceiling so it takes up zero floor space.
In the south, my idea of nice starts around 50 degrees with calm winds.
LOL
For me I'd go for 60 degrees with calm to no winds. Pensacola
Good morning Outdoors with the Morgans. After watching your demonstration of the Sunfire heater, I find it to an adequate heater. The Sunfire exceeds my requirements to heat my garage in regard to features and price. Up here in Highgate Vermont we are at 2 degrees and with all the snow we received yesterday, it is definitely turning out to be a Vermont winter. It’s tough to cut logs and split rounds in the cold. Have a great day.
Howdy Mike and all of Morgan Utube folk. Thank you, Mike, for this video. We have been researching heaters for one of our garages. Second winter in Tennessee and this one was a bit chilly. Thank you, might give this one a go to see if it is worth it. Have a day, the Morgan way, everyone!
I bought this last year while building my 14’x56’ two story during the winter and I love this heater. I have no fumes and no headaches. This Sunfire in much quieter than a torpedo heater that I have used.
Hi Mike, great video! Regarding a heater or better yet, heating your manufacturing/storage space. There are quite a few remedies that have been used in industrial spaces to heat localized areas as well as ways to keep the heat in, while the door is open. Not sure if you have natural gas or propane plumbed into the garage. IR heaters are very passive and don't make noise. Reznor forced air mounted high can act as an air curtain while the door is open and also heat the entire space but they make fan noise while operating. They do provide quick make-up heat. A plastic drape curtain is pretty common in front of large doors to help control temp. The ground heater will always be in the way and you will always need to mess with some kind of fuel. There is an odorless kerosene you can try that could get you much closer to "odorless." Just thinking, any way you burn diesel, you are going to smell it. Last thought, didn't you install the floor heat? Have a nice day!
I got one for you. I went to one of my banks yesterday with a check I wrote myself from another account (different bank I use). I deposited the check and then asked for half of the amount back. I left empty handed. They told me I would have to wait 48 hours for it to clear! In the day of everything being instant Chase bank was going to hold my money hostage. Still scratching my head on that one but I voided the check and went to my other bank to get the cash that way. They didn’t have enough cash on hand! I have to come back in today to get my withdrawal. Make that one make sense! BTW I’m only talking about $5k here!
Also got a bank story, wanted some $2.00 bills from the bank to lighten the bulk in my wallet. (You know, for buying those 'nickel' candy bars and gum at the checkout that are $1.89 now !)
The bank teller could only scrounge up 4 in the whole bank! Said they could get some in but would take a week!
@ I’ve also heard that before! They are hard to come by for whatever reason. I handed a $2 bill to a younger girl at a gas station a few years ago and she literally went to get her manager because she thought it was fake and no such bill existed! She got a lesson that day.
Hey Mike!
I was a diesel mechanic for decades. The last shop I worked in had radiant floor heat. We opened doors all the time. Brought trucks and trailers in covered in ice and snow.
The shop stayed warm with the floor heat. It would heat back up within minutes after opening the door.
Have you ever even tried your floor heat?
Was wondering about this too (floor heat)!
I suspect if Mike just used the in floor heat in the garage it would do a great job of keep it warm with opening and closing the doors. I suspect a way could be devised to create hot water with the existing fireplace and storage tank.
@@MikeSparkman Mike likes the heat and ambiance he gets from using the stove. Using floor heat with the stove heat would be too uncomfortable. That is my guess anyway.
he wanted another gizmo, dude is a consumer
Can't speak for the heater, but it seems as if every product available anywhere has a hyped sales pitch that the product doesn't actually quite live up to...
Good morning Morgans and friends.
Hard to beat an L.B. white heater. Hope everyone has a great day
You need an air curtain at that garage door stop the hot air from leaving the building
Hello! 😊 If you want a good portable heater, try a Kerosun. I have the ones called, "Moonlighter". They run on kerosene or diesel, need no electric power to run, make no noise or odor, and provide a light source as well. You can even cook on top of them. They can even be used indoors if you burn kerosene in them. These are great for temporary heat and light during power outages.
Morning David... -20C or -4F right now, sun should make a return, before more snow.... have a day...
Morning
@mitchellchambers4852 Hi Mitchell from Flat Top! 👍
Good morning David , happy Purrrsday 😸
@@davidmorse8432have a great day
Good morning Mike. I've had problems with my nose being plugged up at night. Well, I use a C-pap machine and I used the Flonase for a while but my Dr. told me that after a while your nose gets addicted to the stuff. So, I decided on plan B. I got the Maximum strength Breathrite strips and I started sucking on a Halls wild cherry menthol cough drop every night. It has helped tremendously. Only thing is that I ended up having to put a little piece of paper towel on the breathrite strip across the bridge of my nose because after a few days it was pulling the skin off the bridge of my nose. And when you eat the cough drop breath through your nose it will help open it up. Sorry this is so long but I'm not real good explaining things. God bless and have a wonderful day. 👍👍🙂
Good to know thank you
@@johngersna3263 put a little Vicks in your noise when you put your cpap on. Game changer
Hi Mike, have you looked into overhead door heaters. We had them in every warehouse I worked in and they are quiet and get the job done quickly without any odor! Lauren Rush idaho
In the 80's I had a Pontiac 6000 diesel. It got tremendous mileage. around 40. And it had a large fuel tank. I had filled it when weather was still warm. Weeks later, over a month, the temperature dropped like a rock. I took the car out and it gelled. I towed it home and turned on the ceiling hung heater. After hours that had not improved the situation. So I borrowed a Torpedo heater and jacked the car up on the front. aiming the torpedo down the length of the car. Within an hour I was able to start it. I added #1 diesel and additives to the tank. Since then I've been able to get #2 with additives at most stations. Recently I had filled my Duramax with straight #2 with no additives. We had a sever cold snap. So I left the truck in the heated garage until it warmed up.
I use my credit card for almost all transactions since it has fraud protection. Debit cards are not fraud protected and a better path to your account for bad folks.
I used to work in shipping docks ,and where the doors are being opened several times a day ,and we had large radiant heat on the ceiling. It felt like your in Florida great heat
I have a torpedo heater in my small shop and the only time I smell it is when it starts up or when it shuts off, when it's running I smell nothing.
Good morning from balmy Upstate South Carolina. Got to 70° here yesterday. High of 62° today. Have another productive day.
Mike, what about the heating system that was installed in the floor when you poured the concrete. I never hear you talk about that. Do you use it?
Mike, only use a debit cart at a bank ATM. Everything else, use a credit card.
I have a sunfire, works great for heating up the shop while working in the winter. they are loud and im always ready for it to shut off. Its hooked up to a thermostat and will maintain temperature without nasty fumes.
Mike, i have the same heater. Put a board on the handle and put a box fan on the board and blow the heat from behind. I agree with you on your review, but it doesn't give me a headache or smell as bad as a torpedo heater. If there is a better one, I'd like to try it too.
By the way, I live very close to Keene N.H. in Southern Vermont.
Thomas.
Wife said to mention overhead door heater. Said she had them at work and for heat, clean and quiet they are great.
What about your floor heat.
Ain"t plugged in.
I do not remember if you comp[eted the radiant in floor heat. Mine was installed with a dedicated gas boiler with gas supply from the house. I barely notice the cost. I just leave it on 55 degrees all the time. The building is 1750 sqft with no windows, just one man door and a 10x18 over head. I suspect you could use a wood fired outdoor boiler.
Mike get the factory wheel well liners for the rear. I added them on my truck and the look and the protection is way better than what you have now.
Good morning folks. Interesting video of burning combustible fuel indoors with a non vented burner. Mike with all your planning on building the HQ building. Why haven't your tried the radiant floor heat system you've installed? Would a NG boiler cost that much to operate? Heating a building that size is a learning process.
I have made several trips straight back from San Angelo Texas to western Kentucky, over 1000 miles. That means 3 gas fill ups. I usually get a phone call from my credit card company reporting possible fraud. About six years ago, I got my card flagged in Florida trying to buy a Sun Pass. If I buy something from an Apple Store, I always get a call from my card company.
You are right quiet is in the ears of the listener!
A outdoor boiler would make that floor toasty
Mike be sure to keep up with the Flonase. My ENT doctor has me on it and it helps tremendously. You can miss one day, but two days in a row and the congestion will start to come back. Also use some plain saline spray during the day to help keep things flushed out and keep you from drying up completely.
It’s amazing, I was stuffed up for the last month and it is so so much better now
@ glad it has helped you.
Good morning y'all !!! Have a great day, and hello from British Columbia
I received a call from the same type of person - heavy accent. Claimed to be from the IRS. He said I owed the IRS a bunch of money - yeah right. If I didn't pay up I would be arrested. He finally asked for my address. I told him 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington DC - come and get me.
I give them that address all the time lol
Somebody is getting old as he demands instant quiet gratification from a minor inconvenience of Mother Nature!! 😂
From North Idaho, that Sunfire seems loud to me, not quiet! Maybe everyone else is using it outside. Fortunately for us, we pay $20 a month for unlimited car washes, you could go once a day if you wanted/needed to. It's a drive-thru so you stay in your vehicle and it is all automated, takes about 1 minute and you're done. We have the other types of car washes in our area but for us this is a great option. Nice drive thru the woods and clearing, lots of deer!
Good morning to Hunter 👋👋😸and family and friends , Happy Purrrsday everyone 😸 / Cats like being warm 😻😸
Happy Purrsday BadCat! 😼😸
Hiya BC! Stay warm!
@@johnsadler8637 / good morning John , trying too😸😺
Zyrtec did not work for me. So my doc suggested Clartitan D-24. I but the store brand generic. It did the trick. We also buy Nasacort at Costco. Comes in a 4 pack. That spray works great and has no ‘rebound’ effect.
What happened to the floor heat.....best thing since loaf bread when you put it in but have not heard another word about how it works or doesn't ?
Hey Karen,
This is a great heater!
I have a Pro Com forced air heater that puts out 220,000 BTU's when cranked up. Its loud and a little smelly on diesel but Im well vented and it works great. I paid $400.00 5 years ago. This Sunfire small version is 80,000 BTU'S.
Morning Mike and family from Crawford County, Pa. have a good trip too Messicks.
Hey Mike. You've got indoor allergies. Me too. My doctor and an allergist told me that. They both said Allegra 180mg before bed. Haven't missed a night of sleep in 10 years. Get a small bottle to try it. Helps 24 hours.
Good Morning Morgan Family🌞- Have a Wonderful and Blessed Day 🤠
I have the sunfire 80 and totally agree with your review. Way better than any torpedo heater but not silent or odorless.
Can you tell who your insurance company is. Can’t find one who will insure a wood burner in an out building.
Mike,a little bit of everything today excellent work and video 😮😊❤
Maybe you should consider installing a small Woodstove in that shop. You already have the fuel, and it's quiet and smells nice.
Good morning young fella as far as the heater goes front of my house one first thing he did was when he got it he left it outside and let it run for one hour to burn off any residual pain or chemicals or whatever that seem to help it when he first starts it up he leaves the door up for about five minutes I don't know if that helps or not it's a good heater it just don't use it inside or finished off as far as scam phone calls go I get them every day nonstop the thing you're talking about is called a card reader they put inside a credit card thing I had a credit card scammed did I don't even use I don't know how they did it just have to be careful this day and age all right have a wonderful week
Mike, Mike, Mike, You don’t want to reheat the air, you want to mitigate the exchange. I founded and ran a manufacturing company and from the beginning (small company) we hung plastic vertical barriers over each garage/dock door. You may do so with a supported bar running under the door, side-to-side. Yes, some air will escape, but you will be surprised ay the effective’s. BTW: it is a bit annoying at times, remove in the summer, but you will save big $’s
Great video, Mike! Just curious if a viable use case for that heater would be more outdoors (like if you were under a canopy as a homebase for sledding or something like that (or would it not do well in a more open scenario)?
The infloor heat would help with the heat rebound.
My buddy has a heater that runs on used motor oil. Works great
What’s bothering you with the cold when you open the door? Don’t you have an insulated partition wall between your living area in HQ & the area by the big door that you purposed for bringing equipment inside originally? All shops & stores usually have those huge electric heaters or garage heaters in the area of the large roll up door. Also you could install a pleated heavy thick plastic strips partition to keep the cold out when open?
That's why I like to have cash. They can't turn off the cash. I am talking about banks and government. Keep as much cash as possible for just that reason.
If I spent that much on a heater, I would feel entitled to want pretty close to perfection too.
Time for another truck load of logs!!!
Mike you should try kerosene on my heater there is way less smoke and smell when on kerosene for the first 5 minutes. I use mine to heater(not the same as yours) a shop and I try to run it empty so that when I do start up I put in 1/2 gallon or so of kerosene and then 10 minutes after start up I add diesel.
You got taken Mike. I’d much rather have a big propane burner. Those things warm buildings up fast and it’s clean
You might have a look at Plastic Freezer Strip Curtains for the garage door instead of the heater, it would keep the bugs out in summer or keep warmth in winter
What about the floor heat you installed?
The problem with cash, besides taking up a lot of space in your wallet, is if something happens to it, you can't retrieve it. If you lose it or it is stolen, it's gone for good. If criminals know you have cash, you become a target. They even watch people go to the ATM and follow them home. Also, you end up with loose change everywhere too.
You are correct on the price. However, I thought it should’ve read whatever percentage you wanna throw at it 40 too 70% quieter than a torpedo heater.
I went to the tube type infrared heater above my garage door, fuel source is propane.
When you going to fire up the in floor heat? I think that would help with the building settling situation.
Those heaters work great but put a huge amount of water in the air. I used one in my two car garage and literally had water streaks coming down the walls. They say it will cause tools to rust but I didnt use it long enough cause that to happen.
Let’s hear it for BLUFORD!
Hey Mike
I've seen those Sunfire heaters on other TH-cam channels as well and yes all said how great they are,the only difference I myself can tell is you bought it and all the others are sponsored.
Have a good day.
Didn't you run radiant floor heating in that building? I keep asking because I copied you haha!
Ryan on Victory Outdoor Services says he noticed that using Kerosene had less odor than using diesel.
Do y’all have the car washes that when you drive through them they wash underneath your truck too. I was just wondering about that to get the salt off the underneath of the truck the frame and all that I’ve seen some of them, but I didn’t know if y’all had them. I’ve been using the Mucinex. The Mucinex has been helping within a day or so it’s done and then you go ahead and take the whole box to keep it from coming back.
Mike we have the Dewalt version of the sunfire n I with you it not quite n if you run it then move to another place n fire back up it rolls coal horribly stinks like raw fuel
Clean it up and return it and put the $1700 towards your boiler for radiant floor heat.
I have a Navien tankless boiler that runs on NG. Really efficient.
Take care.
Mike, I went with a Reznor for a recovery heater for my building with infloor heat. Game changer. Zero smell. For what that sun fire costs, I think a Reznor is a much more effective way to go for the money.
Morning Mike.... enjoy...
Pete 🇨🇦
Good morning Pete 😸
Good morning Pete, You are Quick Draw McGraw this morning but it's hard to beat Ted. Sounds pretty cold where you are. We have 61° F this morning, going up to 68 later in the day. Pretty wet outside and 97% chance of rain in the forecast. Have a great day! 😊
@@badcat4707Morning BadCat, chilly one out there, layer up.... enjoy
@@peteatthefarm4459 Howdy Pete! Sunny and mild here this morning: 2-3C on its way to 16 so they say. Have a good day!
@@johnsadler8637 Hey John, be a while before I see temps like that... enjoy your Thursday....
Mike, i would consider buying some Kerosene to cut down on smell. I dont think you can make diesel odorless. I know its cost a ton, but i guess its like putting liquid gold in your Platinum Heater!
It looks like the list price is $1,795.00 on several sites. However, the 80,000 BTU model can be purchased new, on Ebay for $895.00!
Did the others pay for their heater like you paid for yours? If not, I would question their review. I have looked at that heater, and they are pricey. I just stuck with my torpedo heater.
I love mine! I have the 120. It uses a bit of fuel but the heat is so much better than a torpedo heater, especially the price of kerosene as opposed to the price of diesel. I run mine on a thermostat. It will pay for itself with cost savings on fuel.
Kerosene being a thinner lighter fuel would burn cleaner, less smoke, faster light up, but it is more expensive.
I don't own one of these, but I can tell the difference in the jet heater I see do have.
Good morning Mike! You have another way to heat the other part install another fire place.
Do you use a cement mixer to mix your wood chips and wax