27:09 If you loved Goblin I would highly recommend King Eternal Monarch Kdrama. It's not the masterpiece Goblin was but it was very good amazing supernatural elements fantastic acting and a killer soundtrack.
I love King Eternal Monarch! The scene where he leads the cavalry through the streets to save her is 🤌🏻 iconic. The ending was kind of meh to me (I don't know how sustainable it is for them to stay in separate worlds forever. He's a king - doesn't he have to have an heir? Is she going to have a kid and just ship it off to another dimension?) but overall I enjoyed it a lot!
I watched Unforgotten Night in its entirety but I was also new to the BL world. If I would’ve watched it while it was still airing I probably would’ve stopped but I binged it 😂
I totally have shows that I've watched and loved that I know are objectively not good. But sometimes, that's just the vibe! Sadly, I wasn't in the vibe when that show was airing.
I have a rule that if the show doesn't interest me in the first 10 to 15 minutes I'm not finishing the episode. This is because a lot of the shows that I've seen have episodes that are an hour long and I don't want to spend an hour on a show that I knew I didn't like 10 minutes in. I don't know if I'm just super picky or what but I drop most of the shows I start. It's usually because: 1) The way it's shot/lit is so ugly or boring that it's distracting. 2) The production value is low or nonexistent. I'm not apposed to watching shows that are low budget. One of my favorite shows, "Stay Still" from Hong Kong, was very low budget but it was beautifully done. 3) The acting is bad or awkward. A recent example I watched was "Bad Guy My Boss". Let me tell you, there was no life behind their eyes. Just so flat, wooden, and unconvincing. Side note, they need to stop casting people that are barely our of high school to be intimidating boss characters. 4) I hate the characters and not in a fun way. This is why I ended up dropping "DFF" 10 episodes in. Also, some of the acting/directing decisions took me out of it. Don't get me wrong the show has an interesting premise and the production is pretty good but it's a no from me. When I tell you there was not a single character that I liked. I'm not the type of person that needs every character to be a perfect angel, I love Vegas from KP and Korn from 4minutes for God's sake, but there was no one that I could root for or have fun with. A also I didn't finish the first episode of Kidnap because Q was so annoying and the actor wasn't giving what needed to be gave. 5) And finally, BAD AUDIO! I didn't realize how much bad audio got on my nerves until I had to deal with it. The two shows that come to mind first are "Love in the Air" and "Wandee Good Day". I watched "Love in the Air" because I heard people loved it so I wanted to give it a chance. But, Lord Jesus, I didn't like a single thing about it, except for Fort. He's a cutie. Rain, Sky, and Payu were meh. Fort was too young and cute to be playing a CEO. The only reason I liked Prapai better than the other characters was because they basically just had Fort play himself and he's just a likeable guy. The acting felt kinda bland and noncommittal. Scenes of high emotion felt forced. To the main point, the audio was absolutely horrendous. The levels were unbalanced, sometimes the audio was empty/no atmosphere sound aside from the dialog, audio was constantly going in and out, and music or sound effects drowned out the dialog. I tried to force myself through in the hopes that I would like it as much as other people did but it just became a chore and I dropped it 9 or 10 episodes in. The same audio issues with Wandee Good Day but the acting was a bit better. In one scene I think they forgot to add the sound effects so it was silent aside form the dialog and at one point Yoryak punches a dude and there is no impact sound. I swear the audio editors are asleep at the wheel at GMM. That company is to big to be overlooking these things. PS I did end up watching and finishing Love Sea and the audio was way better but the story was meh and the acting was still unconvincing. Fort was still a cutie patootie though.
@@veenorelation4008 I know people who say you can’t say you don’t like a show if you haven’t seen at least 3 episodes and I FIRMLY disagree 😹 Shows are meant to be enjoyed 👏🏻 if you don’t enjoy, definitely quit! I think because I started BL several years ago when the audio was truly giving reality show from the 90s, most of it now is so much better (even if it’s still not good) I’m way more forgiving 😹 but it can definitely take me out of the moment. I LOVED LITA 😭 but I respect your vibe 🙏🏻 to be fair I also love the fanfiction 😹
@drama.landia I might just be picky or have too high standards since the first few shows I watched were really good production wise. I'm the type of person who always gets distracted thinking about the behind the scenes stuff when watching a show. Fanfic? What fanfic? Do you recomend?
@@veenorelation4008 There's so many good shows out there - no point in wasting your time if you're not enjoying something! I have some old recommendation videos on TikTok, but if you're new to the fandom I recommend just going to the show's page and sorting by kudos on AO3. It's not how I do it, but it's a good start!
Honestly I very rarely DNF a series that I’ve started just because my curiosity won’t let me stop. I still want to know how it ends. I finished Unforgotten Night even though, at the time, I thought it was pretty bad but I recently rewatched it on Viki and compared to some of the 🗑️🔥 we have gotten lately it actually wasn’t too bad 😂. I absolutely love Vice Versa and even though I’m slightly confused about your reasoning (cause they did in fact stay in the other world for the whole series up until the end) if you didn’t like it then it is what it is. I may be in the minority but I would rather creators stop watching something they aren’t enjoying than hate watching and giving negative reviews. Not to say shows shouldn’t get any criticism but I think purposely watching something people know they don’t enjoy and then saying it’s bad because they don’t enjoy it has lead to a lot of negativity in the BL community. Not everything has to be for everyone and luckily we are getting a lot more content to choose from now.
@@BlueJean452 life is too short for me to finish things I don’t like 😭 I think I mean they kept switch from JimmySea to OhmNanon for various reasons, not necessarily that they changed worlds. It threw me off so bad I was like who’s who 😭 also I haven’t seen it in so long I could very well be misremembering things. I think my biggest issue was I just didn’t buy the main 2 as a couple.
Unforgotten Night falls into the category of “delicious garbage” for me. Like it’s not good, the actors aren’t great or well-cast, but something about it kept me watching. It was just so laughably bad. 😂 I didn’t like Vice Versa either and I thought I was alone!
I think the only ones I loved that you dnf’d were laws of attraction and vice versa but your reasons seem similar to others I have seen say they didn’t finish it. A lot of the ones you DNF I didn’t start for the same reasons you didn’t finish them 🤣 not trying to persuade you BUT the reason I liked laws of attraction was it was VERY lakorn-eak, the campy telenovelaesk style drama style plays into my love of older Thai drama which was the reason I landed in the bl space in the first place! Charn was a mess for sure and his redemption ark was well written but you’re right they DID make him almost too unlikable at the start- I’ve always been a big fan of both Jam and Film so probably had more grace for that than I would have otherwise. Vice Versa I’ve always thought it’s lack of popularity was connected to the ONN of it all and the marketing of what their role was in the show, it’s interesting to hear you talk about story structure and world building as an issue- I can see what you are saying though the beginning felt as though they were trying to build a VERY complicated world and the movement between them (though obviously purposeful) relied on some later episodes to make it feel cohesive.
@@jodez8717 I’ve never seen Jam or Film in anything so I didn’t have any warm fuzzy feelings to attract me 😹 the lawyer guy was just TOO cartoonishly evil I couldn’t handle it. Honestly if I ever did go back to it, I’d look for a supercut of the rich guy’s son & his bodyguard cuz there seemed to be something very interesting there… Idk, vice versa is VERY popular in the circles I run in 😹 I feel like the only one who didn’t like it! I honestly just didn’t believe the main couple… they didn’t do it for me. That’s why I didn’t watch Last Twilight either.
27:09 If you loved Goblin I would highly recommend King Eternal Monarch Kdrama. It's not the masterpiece Goblin was but it was very good amazing supernatural elements fantastic acting and a killer soundtrack.
I love King Eternal Monarch! The scene where he leads the cavalry through the streets to save her is 🤌🏻 iconic. The ending was kind of meh to me (I don't know how sustainable it is for them to stay in separate worlds forever. He's a king - doesn't he have to have an heir? Is she going to have a kid and just ship it off to another dimension?) but overall I enjoyed it a lot!
I watched Unforgotten Night in its entirety but I was also new to the BL world. If I would’ve watched it while it was still airing I probably would’ve stopped but I binged it 😂
I totally have shows that I've watched and loved that I know are objectively not good. But sometimes, that's just the vibe! Sadly, I wasn't in the vibe when that show was airing.
I have a rule that if the show doesn't interest me in the first 10 to 15 minutes I'm not finishing the episode. This is because a lot of the shows that I've seen have episodes that are an hour long and I don't want to spend an hour on a show that I knew I didn't like 10 minutes in. I don't know if I'm just super picky or what but I drop most of the shows I start. It's usually because:
1) The way it's shot/lit is so ugly or boring that it's distracting.
2) The production value is low or nonexistent. I'm not apposed to watching shows that are low budget. One of my favorite shows, "Stay Still" from Hong Kong, was very low budget but it was beautifully done.
3) The acting is bad or awkward. A recent example I watched was "Bad Guy My Boss". Let me tell you, there was no life behind their eyes. Just so flat, wooden, and unconvincing. Side note, they need to stop casting people that are barely our of high school to be intimidating boss characters.
4) I hate the characters and not in a fun way. This is why I ended up dropping "DFF" 10 episodes in. Also, some of the acting/directing decisions took me out of it. Don't get me wrong the show has an interesting premise and the production is pretty good but it's a no from me. When I tell you there was not a single character that I liked. I'm not the type of person that needs every character to be a perfect angel, I love Vegas from KP and Korn from 4minutes for God's sake, but there was no one that I could root for or have fun with. A also I didn't finish the first episode of Kidnap because Q was so annoying and the actor wasn't giving what needed to be gave.
5) And finally, BAD AUDIO! I didn't realize how much bad audio got on my nerves until I had to deal with it. The two shows that come to mind first are "Love in the Air" and "Wandee Good Day". I watched "Love in the Air" because I heard people loved it so I wanted to give it a chance. But, Lord Jesus, I didn't like a single thing about it, except for Fort. He's a cutie. Rain, Sky, and Payu were meh. Fort was too young and cute to be playing a CEO. The only reason I liked Prapai better than the other characters was because they basically just had Fort play himself and he's just a likeable guy. The acting felt kinda bland and noncommittal. Scenes of high emotion felt forced. To the main point, the audio was absolutely horrendous. The levels were unbalanced, sometimes the audio was empty/no atmosphere sound aside from the dialog, audio was constantly going in and out, and music or sound effects drowned out the dialog. I tried to force myself through in the hopes that I would like it as much as other people did but it just became a chore and I dropped it 9 or 10 episodes in. The same audio issues with Wandee Good Day but the acting was a bit better. In one scene I think they forgot to add the sound effects so it was silent aside form the dialog and at one point Yoryak punches a dude and there is no impact sound. I swear the audio editors are asleep at the wheel at GMM. That company is to big to be overlooking these things.
PS I did end up watching and finishing Love Sea and the audio was way better but the story was meh and the acting was still unconvincing. Fort was still a cutie patootie though.
@@veenorelation4008 I know people who say you can’t say you don’t like a show if you haven’t seen at least 3 episodes and I FIRMLY disagree 😹
Shows are meant to be enjoyed 👏🏻 if you don’t enjoy, definitely quit!
I think because I started BL several years ago when the audio was truly giving reality show from the 90s, most of it now is so much better (even if it’s still not good) I’m way more forgiving 😹 but it can definitely take me out of the moment.
I LOVED LITA 😭 but I respect your vibe 🙏🏻 to be fair I also love the fanfiction 😹
@drama.landia I might just be picky or have too high standards since the first few shows I watched were really good production wise. I'm the type of person who always gets distracted thinking about the behind the scenes stuff when watching a show.
Fanfic? What fanfic? Do you recomend?
@@veenorelation4008 There's so many good shows out there - no point in wasting your time if you're not enjoying something!
I have some old recommendation videos on TikTok, but if you're new to the fandom I recommend just going to the show's page and sorting by kudos on AO3. It's not how I do it, but it's a good start!
Honestly I very rarely DNF a series that I’ve started just because my curiosity won’t let me stop. I still want to know how it ends. I finished Unforgotten Night even though, at the time, I thought it was pretty bad but I recently rewatched it on Viki and compared to some of the 🗑️🔥 we have gotten lately it actually wasn’t too bad 😂.
I absolutely love Vice Versa and even though I’m slightly confused about your reasoning (cause they did in fact stay in the other world for the whole series up until the end) if you didn’t like it then it is what it is. I may be in the minority but I would rather creators stop watching something they aren’t enjoying than hate watching and giving negative reviews. Not to say shows shouldn’t get any criticism but I think purposely watching something people know they don’t enjoy and then saying it’s bad because they don’t enjoy it has lead to a lot of negativity in the BL community. Not everything has to be for everyone and luckily we are getting a lot more content to choose from now.
@@BlueJean452 life is too short for me to finish things I don’t like 😭
I think I mean they kept switch from JimmySea to OhmNanon for various reasons, not necessarily that they changed worlds. It threw me off so bad I was like who’s who 😭 also I haven’t seen it in so long I could very well be misremembering things. I think my biggest issue was I just didn’t buy the main 2 as a couple.
Now that I’m thinking about it I didn’t even finish the first episode of Laws of Attraction 😂
@@chelseyscollectedworks1502 you get me 😭
King Eternal Monarch is better than Hotel Del Luna too in my opinion.
I finished The King, but I also watched it a bit after I tried Hotel Del Luna. Goblin might've still been too fresh on my mind when I tried 😂
Unforgotten Night falls into the category of “delicious garbage” for me. Like it’s not good, the actors aren’t great or well-cast, but something about it kept me watching. It was just so laughably bad. 😂
I didn’t like Vice Versa either and I thought I was alone!
@@beckabec I’ve 100% had shows like that 😹 I totally get why people liked it, it just didn’t hook me in
Omg no 🙏🏻 we exist!
I think the only ones I loved that you dnf’d were laws of attraction and vice versa but your reasons seem similar to others I have seen say they didn’t finish it. A lot of the ones you DNF I didn’t start for the same reasons you didn’t finish them 🤣 not trying to persuade you BUT the reason I liked laws of attraction was it was VERY lakorn-eak, the campy telenovelaesk style drama style plays into my love of older Thai drama which was the reason I landed in the bl space in the first place! Charn was a mess for sure and his redemption ark was well written but you’re right they DID make him almost too unlikable at the start- I’ve always been a big fan of both Jam and Film so probably had more grace for that than I would have otherwise. Vice Versa I’ve always thought it’s lack of popularity was connected to the ONN of it all and the marketing of what their role was in the show, it’s interesting to hear you talk about story structure and world building as an issue- I can see what you are saying though the beginning felt as though they were trying to build a VERY complicated world and the movement between them (though obviously purposeful) relied on some later episodes to make it feel cohesive.
@@jodez8717 I’ve never seen Jam or Film in anything so I didn’t have any warm fuzzy feelings to attract me 😹 the lawyer guy was just TOO cartoonishly evil I couldn’t handle it. Honestly if I ever did go back to it, I’d look for a supercut of the rich guy’s son & his bodyguard cuz there seemed to be something very interesting there…
Idk, vice versa is VERY popular in the circles I run in 😹 I feel like the only one who didn’t like it! I honestly just didn’t believe the main couple… they didn’t do it for me. That’s why I didn’t watch Last Twilight either.
Force and Book are my weakness 😂
@@chelseyscollectedworks1502 so far the stuff I’ve seen them in, their couple just never does it for me