@sinitarpku,I'm a little confused about the build options. Tell me, in your opinion, which build is more balanced - golem or mixed. I want to use Shako. Overall, the build is amazing.
It is hard to definitively say which is better but if you want to use Shako, golem feels better. Now that the Mendeln Mastery ranks bug is fixed, it is worthwhile using that ring (and make sure to crit on the mastery ranks).
@@sinitarpku Thank you, I understood what it is. But why don't I have it?)) The same golem, everything is the same. But I don't have these icons. I have the same thing, only the gear is worse than yours. And another difference is that I don't play in the season.
@@sinitarpku That's exactly what I do of course. I have a fast cooldown, I always press the golem on cooldown. In principle, everything works. T7, Pit 100, all uber-bosses. Everything with the left heel)) But these icons are missing. That's why I was interested.
@@olegvalenko2635 maybe it is because of the damage number settings. Try to check the settings where you can choose what type of damage numbers to show.
Bom dia meu brother qual progressão das builds devo fazer no leveling do hardcore, pois vi q tem essa ( deve ser end game ) e tem mais 7 no planner do maxroll ?
In early game it doesn't matter much, because now the monsters are very weak compared to players early on. When you first get to world tier 4, you can use the "Leveling-farming" variant, prioritizing reaching resistance and armor cap, and have more life.
@@fernandosantosdeoliveira9996 Mendeln is not required. You can get a regular ring with life, intelligence and attack speed, and temper for damage/close damage/crowed controlled damage etc., and either golem or ultimate cooldown. Also use great feast if you can manage to balance your essence with decompose. Inner calm is also fine if you want to play a bit lazier.
@@mahoragaaaa I did t8 with both variants. They are comparable. In SC you can try replacing bone storm with AoTD and use unyielding commander to get more damage.
Thank you very much for this gameplay. It helps many players understand the build mechanics. I don’t understand how you are making enemies vulnerable. The build planner golem creates corpse when used and you are moving around too much to be using decompose basic skill. Also why not use inner calm legendary aspect on your rings?
As you pointed out, for normal monsters vulnerable coverage is not great. You can use bone golem upgrade B to increase the coverage. For me the normal monsters are not a big problem, usually the boss phase is the slow part (and decompose can have 100% vulnerable coverage against the boss). Inner calm is at most 30%x, and when you move it gets to 10% x for at least 3 sec. For a 50% coverage of its max effectiveness, it is an overall 20%x. Great feast and reanimation have much higher damage.
Did I mention that you are my hero? I will also level up a necro in softcore this season (actually having fun with Druid), and I want to play your build. What can I modify given the switch between HC and SC? I was thinking of adding the Lidless Wall shield
I am glad you want to give it a try. Lidless is not a good option for a thorns build because we lose the thorns inheritance temper (think of it as a separate multiplier just like intelligence ) and the spiked armor temper. Also the unique effect is not that useful as we can achieve perma bone storm without it anyways. As for the affixes, the total armor (for golem thorns) and CDR on Lidless are good, but we lose potential DR/life/int affixes from a regular shield. In SC if you feel comfortable seeing your health bar jumping up and down, you may choose to replace bone storm with AoTD, and use the unyielding commander aspect to get another 100%x (or 150%x on amulet) damage multiplier. To increase the coverage of AoTD, you can use the popular aphotic mechanism/bug to refresh the cooldown. Or you can use embalmer and fast blood to reduce ultimate cooldowns when you pick up blood orbs.
(My experience with his Mixed-GigaTanky) I put the Aspect of cursed aura in the pants so that everything is almost constantly cursed. Still not amazing damage output on enemies that do not damage you, but very chilled farming.
@@silmae4471 Thanks for trying it out. Yes the thorns build requires active monsters to perform best. Damage wise it is not going to be the best, but it's chilled playstyle is what I want when I feel lazy after a day of work.
@@sinitarpku since last season, I am completing your build early, play many hours to understand what I like and what I prefer to change, and slowly adapt. Last season I also tried HC for the first time since I liked the thorns play-style and it is survivable. You are doing an fantastic job with these builds!
hi! Thanks for great guides! i have a question: Why you use sly steps aspect and what do you think about Aspect of th Pruden Heart for necr on HC? Thank you
Pruden Heart is also used by many. However I've noticed that it can be triggered with barriers on. So when I take a hit that takes away 30% of my barrier, which is a quite safe situation, the prudent heart also triggers. The sly steps have worked fine so far, it doesn't proc off damage to barriers.
(My experience with his Mixed-GigaTanky) The beast in the Ice lands on me 2-3 times(max) and it is dead. No GAs in my razorplate, the rest are almost the same. I also killed lilith 2 days ago for the first time.She actually suicided by hitting me.If you have enough mobility to avoid her orbs, it is done deal.
Very easy to do Tormented Duriel/Zir/Grigoire 4-man carry. I think beast is still bugged (one shotting people) so I don't do it. Didn't try Andariel or Lilith but should be no problem at all if you can dodge the boss mechanisms. Example of my 4-man Zir carry from last season: th-cam.com/video/XLIXK9FkEm8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-Ak6JGR5AsItfpOH
why not curse aura to get access to iron maiden and free a slot for something else maybe bone prison to lower cds and make stuff vurnable or grasping veins
Fuckin Desecrator, lost my thorns minion necro this morning in T5. He's great though i was crushing all Ubers with him in under a minute each. Then i tried my blood surge necro in Ubers who also does T5 horde similar effective as the thorns necro, but he takes 10 or 20x as much time to kill a Uber. I had to scroll out. Definitely building up al another thorns build today it's so effective on bosses
@sinitarpku,I'm a little confused about the build options. Tell me, in your opinion, which build is more balanced - golem or mixed. I want to use Shako. Overall, the build is amazing.
It is hard to definitively say which is better but if you want to use Shako, golem feels better. Now that the Mendeln Mastery ranks bug is fixed, it is worthwhile using that ring (and make sure to crit on the mastery ranks).
Just killed lilith with this build for the first time 💪
@sinitarpku , In your video, there are skulls with spikes appearing above the mobs. What is that? I don't have that.
That shows the mobs are taunted (by my bone golem active) so they will attack the golem and take thorns damage.
@@sinitarpku Thank you, I understood what it is. But why don't I have it?)) The same golem, everything is the same. But I don't have these icons. I have the same thing, only the gear is worse than yours. And another difference is that I don't play in the season.
@@olegvalenko2635 You need to use the active taunt by pressing the golem spell
@@sinitarpku That's exactly what I do of course. I have a fast cooldown, I always press the golem on cooldown. In principle, everything works. T7, Pit 100, all uber-bosses. Everything with the left heel)) But these icons are missing. That's why I was interested.
@@olegvalenko2635 maybe it is because of the damage number settings. Try to check the settings where you can choose what type of damage numbers to show.
Bom dia meu brother qual progressão das builds devo fazer no leveling do hardcore, pois vi q tem essa ( deve ser end game ) e tem mais 7 no planner do maxroll ?
Eu perguntei pq vou começar a buil e nem unicos tenho ainda no hardcore
In early game it doesn't matter much, because now the monsters are very weak compared to players early on. When you first get to world tier 4, you can use the "Leveling-farming" variant, prioritizing reaching resistance and armor cap, and have more life.
@@sinitarpku muito obrigado, mas qual anel devo usar no "leveling-farming " no lugar do " ring of mendeln " até conseguir um?
@@fernandosantosdeoliveira9996 Mendeln is not required. You can get a regular ring with life, intelligence and attack speed, and temper for damage/close damage/crowed controlled damage etc., and either golem or ultimate cooldown. Also use great feast if you can manage to balance your essence with decompose. Inner calm is also fine if you want to play a bit lazier.
Hi just wondering how come no needflare aspect ? Is it bugged ?
@@liamphelps9411 yes it is bugged, no procs from minion thorns
@@sinitarpku damn it could help a bit maybe the will fix it
Think with needletflare, this will be much more aoe clear and dmg
@@dustofhell It is bugged, no procs from minion thorns.
Out of your 2 variants (gigatanky with doombringer, and golem- with shako) which one you think is easly doing T8? In softcore
@@mahoragaaaa I did t8 with both variants. They are comparable. In SC you can try replacing bone storm with AoTD and use unyielding commander to get more damage.
我參考了大大你的bd，裝備數值沒你好，打T7打不太過，連打大秘境100層以上都有點卡，你之前的bd是死靈大軍+無限血霧，這次大絕改骨矛風暴無限護盾，感覺本身生存有提升，打T6站在原地都沒問題
但我也發現一個缺點，就是如果小兵死光，地上屍體數量常常不夠召喚小兵，不像死靈大軍+無限血霧可以一直製造屍體，所以沒小兵沒屍體情況下就完了，所以如果打T8或大秘境高層是不是原來的死靈大軍+無限血霧比較穩？
之前的也是白骨风暴无限护盾。Golem用产生尸体那个，吼一下就有5具。现在不卡bug的话无限血雾不好用（因为CD是血雾结束之后才开始）。白骨风暴这套打T8是可以的，小怪阶段效率还行，boss会比较慢，我打T8 boss要差不多5分钟。
要打boss快的话得Bone Spirit。
Great video! Getting cool down on Helm and Necklace is impossible for me! 😔
Thank you for the build work good, you think is possible to do tier 8?
@@TheFedef12evo yes. Boss kill would be a bit slow
Mendeln ring worth it?@@sinitarpku
@@TheFedef12evo I think it is good for the golem and mixed build if you can crit the mastery 2-3 times
Thank you very much for this gameplay. It helps many players understand the build mechanics. I don’t understand how you are making enemies vulnerable. The build planner golem creates corpse when used and you are moving around too much to be using decompose basic skill. Also why not use inner calm legendary aspect on your rings?
As you pointed out, for normal monsters vulnerable coverage is not great. You can use bone golem upgrade B to increase the coverage. For me the normal monsters are not a big problem, usually the boss phase is the slow part (and decompose can have 100% vulnerable coverage against the boss).
Inner calm is at most 30%x, and when you move it gets to 10% x for at least 3 sec. For a 50% coverage of its max effectiveness, it is an overall 20%x. Great feast and reanimation have much higher damage.
Did I mention that you are my hero? I will also level up a necro in softcore this season (actually having fun with Druid), and I want to play your build. What can I modify given the switch between HC and SC? I was thinking of adding the Lidless Wall shield
I am glad you want to give it a try. Lidless is not a good option for a thorns build because we lose the thorns inheritance temper (think of it as a separate multiplier just like intelligence ) and the spiked armor temper. Also the unique effect is not that useful as we can achieve perma bone storm without it anyways. As for the affixes, the total armor (for golem thorns) and CDR on Lidless are good, but we lose potential DR/life/int affixes from a regular shield.
In SC if you feel comfortable seeing your health bar jumping up and down, you may choose to replace bone storm with AoTD, and use the unyielding commander aspect to get another 100%x (or 150%x on amulet) damage multiplier. To increase the coverage of AoTD, you can use the popular aphotic mechanism/bug to refresh the cooldown. Or you can use embalmer and fast blood to reduce ultimate cooldowns when you pick up blood orbs.
(My experience with his Mixed-GigaTanky) I put the Aspect of cursed aura in the pants so that everything is almost constantly cursed. Still not amazing damage output on enemies that do not damage you, but very chilled farming.
@@silmae4471 Thanks for trying it out. Yes the thorns build requires active monsters to perform best. Damage wise it is not going to be the best, but it's chilled playstyle is what I want when I feel lazy after a day of work.
@@sinitarpku since last season, I am completing your build early, play many hours to understand what I like and what I prefer to change, and slowly adapt. Last season I also tried HC for the first time since I liked the thorns play-style and it is survivable. You are doing an fantastic job with these builds!
hi! Thanks for great guides!
i have a question: Why you use sly steps aspect and what do you think about Aspect of th Pruden Heart for necr on HC?
Thank you
Pruden Heart is also used by many. However I've noticed that it can be triggered with barriers on. So when I take a hit that takes away 30% of my barrier, which is a quite safe situation, the prudent heart also triggers. The sly steps have worked fine so far, it doesn't proc off damage to barriers.
Hey, how is your thorns necro doing with tormented bosses?
(My experience with his Mixed-GigaTanky) The beast in the Ice lands on me 2-3 times(max) and it is dead. No GAs in my razorplate, the rest are almost the same. I also killed lilith 2 days ago for the first time.She actually suicided by hitting me.If you have enough mobility to avoid her orbs, it is done deal.
Very easy to do Tormented Duriel/Zir/Grigoire 4-man carry. I think beast is still bugged (one shotting people) so I don't do it. Didn't try Andariel or Lilith but should be no problem at all if you can dodge the boss mechanisms. Example of my 4-man Zir carry from last season: th-cam.com/video/XLIXK9FkEm8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-Ak6JGR5AsItfpOH
why not curse aura to get access to iron maiden and free a slot for something else maybe bone prison to lower cds and make stuff vurnable or grasping veins
That's a good option too. Sometimes I use it. Feel free to make changes as you see fit.
Fuckin Desecrator, lost my thorns minion necro this morning in T5. He's great though i was crushing all Ubers with him in under a minute each. Then i tried my blood surge necro in Ubers who also does T5 horde similar effective as the thorns necro, but he takes 10 or 20x as much time to kill a Uber. I had to scroll out. Definitely building up al another thorns build today it's so effective on bosses
Thorns are great against most ubers. I remember last season I was carrying a 4-man uber zir in about 10 sec.
Found this old video: th-cam.com/video/XLIXK9FkEm8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rN7_EAslVkjGCd2k