Rugby Extra | Rob Kearney, Matt Williams and Shane Horgan reflect on Ireland's World Cup exit
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- After our main studio coverage of Ireland's heartbreaking exit from the Rugby World Cup, Rob Kearney, Matt Williams and Shane Horgan stuck around for another 20 minutes to reflect on Ireland's World Cup exit. The lads also watched Andy Farrell's post-match interview, and reveal what it's like for a squad after a Rugby World Cup when some of your teammates retire, such as Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls.
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Our 07 loss to france was heart breaking. NZ has had some great teams over the years which took us from winning in 1987 to 2011. This is not tge end Ireland, i hope Andy stays in because he is absolute world class! This is just tge start. Love from NZ
I think as a rugby public too, the NZ supporters have learned to not be so matter of fact with our team, the boys in 07 were told basically get ready for the next week... not from the coaches but the media and the rugby public, the irish support was very matter of fact about their boys going through, yes they were the best team leading up to the w/c, yes they were number 1 but counts for nothing on the day, they will be back and they will be better for it... there's always another world cup
@@temokootapuhi4588i tend to agree. It must be hard in this day and age for players to ignore the hype in the press or social media. This irish team had alot of hype around them. Kiwis know this all too well as we've mourned plenty of world cup failures over the years.
As an ABs fan, I know what the Irish are going through. It took us 24 years to win another RWC. We had many great teams who failed. Once the dust settles, you’ll be able to see the achievements of this great Irish side and realize 1 loss does not change that fact.
Thank u for been respectful to Ireland
Congratulations NZ and well played. Apologies for our arrogant pundits, they are not representative of the larger Irish fan base. Hope you guys go all the way you deserve all the credit. 🇮🇪🤝🇳🇿
Go on and win it now AB's. Very respectful and appreciated from Irish fan
Thank you for your respect. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.
Actually one lost does change the fact because if you can't win a world cup then everything means squat you muppet 😂
The reality is POM called Sam Cane a shit man’s Richie McCaw. And Sam Cane got revenge. He both played out of his skin and led well.
Now that was arrogant
Good point , better off to just say nothing.
Well he’s a shit talking loser now isn’t he? 4 more years and he won’t be there 😂
Players sledge each other all the time. I'm sure it was water off a ducks back to Sam Cane.
Also Sam Cane bulked up more and got even leaner, he came back to make a statement and he did.
Keeping Andy Farrell will be key. The ABs had the same issue and retained Ted. Quarter and Semi playoffs are always harder. Ireland will be back.
what a cop out. you played your best against a team that had the game to beat you. that attack was always threatening but the abs pressured the runners not sexton as heavily limiting his options. the abs turnovers, scrum dominance, lineout sharpness, and breakdown agression all limited irelands game. no matter how great you've been its this mentality that holds ireland back, the fact Kearney feels so strongly it was fatigue and he's an ex player shows the mentality
They played like shit.
No hate to the Irish team or her people. This comment is aimed at pundits like this undermining the abs victory
@@p.stanaway8786 I can tell you they did not play their best. If they did they would have beaten us. Plain and simple. Exactly what needed to happen for us to win happened. We played out of our skin and they were far from their best. Regardless we did what we have become very good at. Doing enough to reach WC finals
@@itachitsukuyomidcuo9853 you play what the opposition allows. We have some of the best attacking threats yet the world in the last few years has managed to nullify that.
@@p.stanaway8786 At one point Ireland didn't even jump to gather their own lineout. Sexton missing a kick he would get 9 times out of ten. Yes we made some things more difficult for them but if you watched that game and think that was anything other than their worst performance at this world cup (still not a 'bad' performance) then I don't know what Ireland team you've been watching. Two of our tries were the softest tries I've seen that Ireland team cough up (outside of the Scotland game when it was already over)
Semis : 3 x Southern hemisphere teams. Lots of irish supporters dissed the AB's and Boks....
Guess who is still in, and guess where the NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE WORLD is now?
Being rated #1 means nothing going into the world cup. NZ knows that better than anyone
Difference is is that New Zealand have lifted the Webb Ellis Cup 3 times. Ireland never have and never will.
Kearny who’s in who’s head now😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
The Irish media and the majority of Irish fans went overboard at this WC. The talk all week of "we'll win the tournament if we beat NZ" "This is the worst NZ team in years" absolute nonsense. Anybody who has watched Rugby for more than 2 years knew NZ would beat us. The draw was made in Dec 2020 and the writing was on the wall back then with a QF exit to AllBlacks.
The arrogance from irish media and supporters are pathetic. I can easily break down WHY this irish team is NOT great and i will in one moment but nobody ever uses context and it annoys me. This is WHY ireland are NOT amazing.
They started by (barely) beating the WORST all blacks team in the last 4 decades (and acted as if they were the team that was 100yrs dominant) theyve got a very poor English team over past couple years (even england would admit that) a welsh team that is aging and well off their best (lost to italy for christs sake), italy who arent a hard team, scotland who yes are good but arent at that level just yet, and france (who was their only real competition in this period) then in SA pool game, they should have lost that really, and even still, barely won.
If u havent picked it up yet - irealnd have been peaking in between world cups, at the same time that almost every other major nation was in a rebuilding/falling phase... they arent amazing cos they havent had that great competition.
The england 07 is better than this, plus other english sides of the past, multiple aussie teams of the late 90s/early 00s are better, many SA teams, most NZ teams, and a couple of french teams... like its so ridiculous.
Ill give u another couple fun facts to show u how average and overrated these blokes are ... ireland have NEVER lead in a world cup quarter final (not only lost, but never been in front) and the funniest one to me in this particualr game is that not a single irish-born (or true irishman, that at least grew up there) scored a try. The 2x tries from ireland were guys born in NZ, NZ accents and dreams to play for the all blacks, (not for ireland) but werent good enough
Jesus, you're arrogant. Ireland took the lead in a RWC quarter final in 1991 against Australia and lead against France at half time in 1995.
@@taintabird23 👈👈 the NUMBER ONE fan of the NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE WORLD 😂😂😂
Good points
What a load of nonsense, in their past 31 games prior to this week of which they won 29 they beat every team in the top 7 twice except France and every team in the top 12 at least once. England 07 is not better than this team, what a load of nonsense. The only way you could possibly think that is if you turn off the human minds ability to comprehend nuance. "DUR DUR DUR FINAL = GOOD" without context isn't an argument.
Several of your "facts" are you just blatant lies.
👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏well said brother I applaud
The Irish’a arrogance and ignorance to learn from 2007 Springboks & 2015 All Blacks teams with regards to player rotation and peaking at the right time was their downfall.
This is must be a deeper reason as to why they still cannot make past the QF of a Rugby World Cup.
Ireland chin up, you are in good shape. You just got beaten by an ABS that has a lot to prove. And we got treated to an amazing rugby game. Bravo to both teams!!
Thank you for your respectful comment. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.
I mean not really, 9 starters will be gone by 2027 and none of the replacements will have any experience from playing the same squad over and over again.
I am sure Irish coach is already planning for the next WC and rebuild@@randomuruk7230
Who fucking care about ranking?? Quick answer, the ones that never pass the Quarter finals
Actually when NZ are number one, they care about it - South Africans never shut up about it. It only loses value to people like you when a NH team holds it.
@@taintabird23And how's your NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE WORLD working out for you?😂
The ABs and Boks held the William Webb Trophy 3 times each.
Your NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE WORLD.....they can't even reach the semis 😂😂😂😂
@@taintabird23 holds what? honeslty who fucking care? never in the top 4!! that is just sad sad sad
@@frakia666 Holds #1in the world rankings.
RWC exists for NZ and SA.
We hyped them and ourselves up too much
Yeah better off bowing our heads and accepting our role as also rans. Nonsense. It’s sport and entertainment. Pain and joy are part of it. If you want to play it safe and have no expectations that’s fine but don’t blame the rest of us for putting faith in the team.
Yeah, like RWC titles are won by teams that don't believe in themselves. Do South Africans sound humble to you or New Zealanders?
@@taintabird23Ireland have never come close to winning a world cup and never will
@@sljones9103 I remember people like you making similar claims about Ireland beating NZ about 10 years ago.
Famous last words.
Scots fan here! Wow what a test match! Both teams were excellent. Well done NZ 30+ phases defended at the end without giving away a penalty. Defense was immense. Gutted for Ireland
Kearney needs to eat humble pie. His arrogance over last few weeks has been nauseating. Get Quinlan, humble fella
100% correct ✅
Stop #lying Kearneys humble like all them
@@TLF1 to be fair Kearney,always came across as a bit up himself
In fairness to Kearney, when asked who would win the world cup- his answer was France
@@seancondon2817 no he didnt thar pure lies. In fact Kearney actually tipped FRANCE to win from start hahaha
Being number one and remaining number one are two different things completely... its a sobering lesson everyone must learn 😢
They remained number 1 for the 4th longest streak in history, if anything the only lesson here is being number 1 means nothing.
Only a year and a half the longest anyone has been there outside New Zealand and South Africa. We went 2/2 against South Africa just couldn't go 3/3 against New Zealand no shame in that I mean who has beaten them 3 times in a row.
@@DM-rp9ik South Africa and Australia have done it a few times.
@@randomuruk7230 Yes South Africa in 2009 and 1976 Australia in 2001 rare enough we just have to get better
@@DM-rp9ik But we won't, we will lose 9 players by 2027 and none of the replacements will have any WC experience because of how we handled the group stage.
Take the points!! Big lesion! The arrogance to go to touch in the beginning of a WCQF.
So Abs had no chance due to not being battle hardened because of the easier pool, now the poo was easy they were more rested? Make up ya mind lol
Arrogant analyst 😂😂😂😂 they all were so arrogant 😅
When i was young Ireland were considered easy beats... moving from easy beats to RWC contenders is a huge win. Keep it up Ireland!!
They will never contend again
Honestly I never regarded Ireland as a RWC contender, I think Ireland is overrated
More like Quarter finals contenders
Such haters, Unbelievable.
There is no logic to explain why the winners (Ireland and France) lost to the losers (NZ and Springbok) of the pool play. Ireland played their hearts out, gave it their all, but on the night came up against a team that was one roll of the dice better on the scoreboard. There seems to be almost universal acceptance that this game has established a new benchmark for how the game should be played and that's a tribute to everyone at the Stade.
Damn right. As far as I'm concerned, there were 4 equally good teams there and only 1 can win
The logic is that very rarely will ABs or RSA play poorly twice in a row against top tier teams. Even as a kiwi, I dont rate our current ABs team as being the dominant force we usually are. But you can never count them out either.. no matter how bad they have performed recently. On their day.. the ABs and RSA can beat anyone. The only other team that I put in that group is France. Ireland are not far behind though. Looking forward to a future of those 4 teams dominating world rugby.
What is with these media pundits and people that have actually played rugby saying a team was not at there best. Give some credit to the opposing team putting pressure on them.
You must admit that the ABs put 50% extra power into the breakdown to counteract Ireland’s speed and skill set. They targeted all our strong points. Joe Smith can take credit. We just got shafted by a superior strategy. We fought bravely and almost managed an upset. ‘Almost’ is a horrible word. I’m glad I lived to see rugby played like this Irish team have played it. Thank you lads. You’ve done us proud.
We were literally betting favourites, stop pretending it would of been an upset.
Upset? Ireland were favourites, with 2 yellow cards and a penalty try. Stop dreaming mate.
No upset, Ireland just got beaten by a great All Blacks team on the night. Irish are a great side but just came up short. The All Blacks are just a great rugby team. You can’t underestimate us. Next time Ireland.
Up the All Blacks, another tough test next weekend against a very good Argentina side can’t get complacent now but we will enjoy this victory over Ireland 🇳🇿🖤
@@Gubbiblehahaha my thoughts too. We were the underdogs in this game playing the number 1 ranked team in the world. Humble pie was served 😂
@@mvp88kefz92 I'm Irish and even I'm sick of this nonsense, all the bandwagoners see is "New Zealand" and just assume we're meant to lose. Part of the reason why is because people keep talking like this whenever we lose.
So now Tonga are dangerous because of four Allblacks . Thanks mate 😂😂😂
4 ex-All Blacks.
Im South African so my opinion is neutral, Ireland played at 100%, the ABs played at 101%! Really don't think Ireland were sub-maximal, they played exceptional, Shane hit the nail on the head, the ABs constricted the game disallowing what Ireland do best! Ireland has nothing to be ashamed of and they should hold their heads high, its an amazing game but I think what this team did was light the spark for a new era in Irish rugby...
Only great things to come!
Thanks for the honest critique. I thought I was going crazy with so many people saying Ireland played bad. They didnt play bad at all. The ABs were just tactically better and had a little more in the tank at the end. Great game.
@therandomraving7490 the ABs have a way of finding those cracks in the armour no matter how strong the team is, it's just what they do. The game was on the edge of a knife and could have swung both ways. If you look at us the Springboks statistically we have lost the most matches to the ABs then any other team we have played.
What was great about this Irish team was the message! That you guys to can not only compete against the best but you can also be the best. That message will inspired the boys and girls back in your country to pick up a rugby ball and join their local rugby club!
I know this guy Gary (gary oak the ireland troll)
He failed his school exams and was refused entry into college
He lives alone with his mom in a council house (I won't say where)
He was bullied in school (which is never nice)
He is beyond shy (or embarrassed about his looks)and so never had a girlfriend
The reason why he trolls about Ireland is because the girl he fancied rejected him in school and she was Irish
Scorn not Gary's Simplicity but rather try to love him all the more
As a troll,he is ineffective as he lacks wit (he said Scotland would demolish Ireland proving that the poor chap knows nothing about sport)
His mother was in tears recently telling me how he refuses to leave his room or get offline (the only time he leaves the house is to collect his dole and buy chips and coke)
The problem was that you all had written off the All Blacks. We came with intensity, and wanted to play the game at a speed that you couldn't keep up with, the last 5 mins showed the Irish had run out of ideas of how the break the All Black defense.
Yeah, Ireland looked knackered by the sixtieth minute. Even had they beaten NZ I wonder if they would've had the gas for a semi and a final. Rotating your players in a lengthy tournament like this is critical. It's a pretty basic thing for Farrell to faff up.
Just because Ireland believed they could win, did not mean you were written off. You cannot defeat NZ unless you believe you can. Ireland fielded a full strength team, showing respect, and even your own bookies in NZ made Ireland slight favourites. In the end, had Jordan Barrett not got his hand under Kelleher ball for a try near the end, we could have been having a different conversation. Congratulations on your win, I hope you enjoy the rest of the tournament. Tone down the arrogance though, its childish.
Go back and watch all the talk prior to this game by these guys, and then talk to me about arrogance. "we can win if we play at 90%" And tell me that's not arrogance. @@taintabird23 It's not arrogance on my behalf, the All Blacks knew this was their final, and the Irish supporters thought it was a step to the final. I am taking nothing away from your team, they are amazing, more so the blindness of these guys.
Arrogance was all Irish. Need a box of tissue?
As a Springbok fan...I've always loved Irish Rugby because of your grit and passion... but I have been bitterly disappointed in the behaviour of some Irish fans. The arrogance and disdain shown by them towards nations like NZ and SA that have actually won a World Cup (both 3) and actually made it to a semi final playoff has been astounding to me.. never expected it. Good luck in the future World Cup tournaments.. but please show more respect and humility
Another bok troll. Your fans were the cocky ones going into the Ireland game, saying you'd win it easy with your bomb/nuke squad.
Most Irish fans thought yesterdays game was too close to call.
I think you guys just feel entitled to some kind of special treatment. If irish fans don’t believe then what’s the point and if they do believe it’s called arrogance by the top hierarchy of SA and NZ Fans. That’s the Arrogance.
They lost by four points and finished with an attack lasting five minutes and over 30 phases (against the ABs!). 'Arrogance' would have been fans who had talked the talk and then saw their team lose by 20-30 points,
@@markkeogh2190 The saffa fans are the most arrogant of all. They think they've already beaten France.
Edit. France score the first try in the 2nd min of the game. Allez les Bleus.
Thank you for proving my point with your arrogant and rude reply
OH The day after Ive been there many times lads so many WC AB let downs - gosh it hurts yes Rob- it feels sickening depressing - I remember after the French loss I drove out to St Arnaud in the Nelson Lakes it was a gloomy cold dark day nothing was open I came back home and cuddled my wife all afternoon - stay close to those who understand and love you Reflect on what this Irish team have layed for others to build on and they most certainly will - its all about building legacys and success stories layer upon layer
Just make sure the monkey on the back doesnt become a guerrilla❤
The legacy is an 8th consecutive quarter final exit.
Im afraid that monkey will haunt them for ages. The hurt will take a very long time to dissipate. Sometimes psycologically the team could be damaged. Case un point just look at the proteas cricketers after that 1 loss to Australia. To sugarcoat what happened i must say ' you fooling yourself. Face up, man up gentlemen. All you pundits were looking at and saying ' ye Ireland are no 1, blah blah blah......including The Matt.
@@randomuruk7230 And 8th Quarter Final Appearance - thats the playoffs - NZ waited 24 years before our second Title - good things take time - nothing is given - history will be kind to Ireland - it will remember a draw that should have had them as semi Finalists - and thats not sour grapes its reality you were rightly the Worlds number 1 ranked team and deserved that semi final positioning Now pick yourself up and come back stronger and better - Ireland are here to stay - World Rugby is in a much better place with them on board - we all have to now worry about Ireland
@@waynerockman1242 Are you referring to the tied 50 over ODI World Cup Final - I consider that result EVEN SA shared that Title and it doesnt matter what the record books say nobody won anyway SA reached the Final that was a milestone in itself - NZ tied with England 3 years ago - it doesnt matter what the officials think or do - the players and fans know the back story - Ireland will regroup just as NZ has - but the hurt will stay until they started rebuilding the 6 Nations will do that
@@Kerry-uu6rk In a sport where about 20 countries get funding we place top 8 8 times and fail twice.
8 losses in 8 Qf's that's gotta hurt
Nobody died.
Oh they're hurting alright 👋😂
@@mrheck5311Irish rugby just did
To not know the feeling of never progressing beyond the quarter finals in 8 attempts... it's going to hurt for some time.
@@huslazonly rugby isn't a religion in ireland. We have other more popular sports. When Ireland get knock out there isn't a spike in domestic violence like there is in NZ
😅😅😅😅😅BOKKE!!!
I can't help but feel our big chance is gone
Ya best Ireland team ever and still can’t past the quarters 😭😭
@@adamoshea2793there is always the option of hiring more kiwis players
@@adamoshea2793
You sound like you're happy about it? Are you Irish?
@@RazorMouth no I am Irish just disappointed we can’t win a quarter
@@RazorMouthI am & i think its hilarious 😂
Kiwis know how you feel -1999, 2007 we thought we were unbeatable . Taught the public realised that winning a WC is HARD. There are no guarantees.
95 and 2003 also.
No fairy tales in world cups unfortunately.
Bullshit boy I was born in 2008 in Whangarei and wouldnt have a clue what your on about.................. BOY
Ireland never thought we were unbeatable. We just thought we were good enough to win. There's a big difference. I don't know where this narrative is coming from, NZ media must have had a field day that Ireland "needed to be humbled".
@@RottingYodaif you listen to this exact panel they didnt even rate the ABs as contenders over the past few weeks. Ireland have been humbled but they will come back stronger with more understanding of what it takes to win. No doubt they will be better for this experience.
@@vincenthay2206 Of course they didn't big them up. They got smashed by SA in a test and then France smashed them. Logically you wouldn't. With all due respect I don't think you're understanding what humble means. Nowhere in the media or the team ever said,'we're going to smash NZ, they're thrash'. They said we were favourites. Pundits agreed based on form. Even the book makers in NZ agreed.
Ireland are class… 1 game doesn’t define your legacy. Heads up lads. We know well and truly how you feel after being favourites most RWCs and falling short multiple times.
Regardless of England & Argentina, we know the top 4 includes Ireland. Long May you stay there!
From a Kiwi.
Btw Fun fact, NZ had 0 handling errors all game. Zero.
Face facts we finished the game was a 36 and 38 year old at 9 and 10.....sexton was gassed but clearly the bench wasnt strong enough to replace him. Things like kicking and line outs were bad and simply put if you cant make it count when the opposition is down to 14 players for 20 mins then u have nobody to blame
I was watching O'Mahoney last 10 mins and he was physically gone!
What's age got to do with it? A 37 yo had marathon world record Sexton has been better than ever.
I was at the game. Congrats to NZ, their effort to keep us out at the end was immense. For me, Barret holding up Keleher over the line was the match winning moment, for me. It really felt we would hold on if we scored at that stage. NZ were flagging too in the last 10 mins.
You learn from your failures. ABs had to learn from 24 years of World Cup failures and we changed the way we prepared. World Cup games are different to out of cycle games. You almost need two teams worth of test quality depth and mental fortitude for knock out rugby. So you develop those players during the years leading up to it. Hopefully Ireland learns this and approaches the next World Cup with an approach to get them to a final.
So much for a NH whitewash 😂 you vastly overestimated yourselves 😂 both France and Ireland out in the QFs 😂
As a neutral one felt that this was the time for Ireland to go all the way. An excellent team. Just one mistake in hindsight as Matt pointed out was playing your first team every week. They looked out on their feet in the last 20 minutes.
They where tired
No depth
Keep deleting my posts, cant handle your own medicine? 🤣🤣🤣 🇳🇿💪🔥
Ireland v NZ, what a game until the 80th minute. Respect for both teams. The 2023 World Cup will be weaker for the fact Ireland will not be crowned champions in 2023. France going out as well means the number one and two teams in the rankings have been beaten (unfortunately). I hope Ireland (France/England/Scotland/Wales/Italy) rebuild and come back stronger and continue to challenge our friends in the Southern Hemisphere.
The wc got stronger after the NH frauds left lol. The teams to make it to semis have always been sa, nz and eng + somebody like Arg, Wales and France whi have all made semi finals before
Ireland bottled it yet again. They’ll never win the RWC.
From an ABs fan your team and coaching setup are an absolute credit to your country Ireland. The manner in which your players and coach have conducted themselves in extremely distressing and painful circumstances shows the absolute class and character of your squad. You should be extremey proud of what this Irish team have achieved over the past couple of years. We as NZ rugby fans understand the heartbreak of unexpected losses at a rwc. But this should not and will not define what is a great Irish team and one of the best rugby teams to grace our beloved rugby fields. Its often in the fields of extreme adversity that the seeds of greatness and success are sown. This Irish team has redifined in many ways how our great game should be played and they have been an absolute joy to watch. Never stop beliving guys because it will happen! Kia kaha and much love to my Irish brothers and sisters.
Thank you so much 💚
Never underestimate any AB side or Bok side. They have the championships under the belt already. It felt like a final for both matches. Its such a shame it happens in a quarterfinal game.
Gutted but Ireland bottled it like always in WC. Playing vs 14 men for 20 mins. No excuse for being held up over the line. Shouldn't have happened. Sexton bottled the biggest kick of his career. And we aimlessly kicked possession away at least 3 times in attack. Honestly, just not good enough.
Ireland ate at the top of the rankings fir a reason. However, that doesn’t mean you get everything right all the time. I thought Sexton faded in the last 15 minutes and needed to be changed. Did sentimentality keep him on the pitch?
Shane loves a bit of cadence
Northern domination? Ireland will beat all blacks at 90%?, all blacks aura is gone? Mate, dont ever disrespect the All Blacks again.
The Irish will just get better and better inevitably winning the webbed ellis, they've set the benchmark on how to play open attractive rugby with the structured cohesion that comes so naturally to northern hemisphere teams. That unfortunately will PROBABLY be the last hurrah 4 the AB's 2 sooner or later as I can't see them troubling the bokie and dear I say it, EVEN THE bargy Argy will back themselves to asphyxiate that AB forward pack thus offering no space for pace. Theres also the MOTHERCOUNTRY lol but seriously they do what England does well - chipping away at an old block owned by a neighbour = UNDER THE RADAR and will be trrouble to any team that underestimate the opposition. STILL A FUCKEN WORLD BEATING IRISH TEAM THOUGH, THAT CAN NEVER BE ALTERED, 1 OF THE TRUELY GREAT TEAMS OF RUGBY HISTORY. 4 YEARS WILL FLY BY
Ireland will never get better it's down hill for Ireland now with sexton gone
Nope it's a freefall from here, 9 of the starters will be gone by 2027 and none of the replacements will have any World Cup experience even if they had the adequate skill and integration leaving us with 2031. Considering most young people are already considering leaving Ireland due to the cost of living and the housing crisis I don't have high hopes for 2035.
@@sljones9103It was ment to be all down hill after Shmidt in 2019 and we where figured out. The players coming through are better than ever. This team is better then the last one. The next one will be better just like the one before it.
blah,blah, blah take your medication, lie down relax , they showed no respect thought they could score anytime, believed their own hype nek minit , BOOM got spanked for it , the great Irish team to not make the semis , what a legacy
@@DM-rp9ik Almost every player who played here played in 2019. You are ignoring the impact of literally changing your entire team.
It’s been a failure, no sugar coating
True.
😂
@@karl4406 What are we actually hoping for here? To play Namibia, Uruguay and Romania in the knock out stages?
If England or Argentina make it to the finals it means that they have been good enough to beat the Springboks / France and the All Blacks to get there. That is the nature of the competition. There can be only one winner and a different draw does not mean it would have been more suitable for any team. Time to build a bridge and get over it.
@@Karma-qt4ji this is ridiculous. Firstly, England won’t get to the final. You can come back here next week if they do, but they won’t. The argument that Ireland’s draw was unfair isn’t accurate. They have to beat every team, no excuses. But it’s irrational, uneducated, and just plain ignorant to try and say that the draw wasn’t relevant.
@@pityfool23 LOL if England make it to the final I will come back here and say "told you so" only to drown my sorrows because it will be my Springboks who they beat to get there. Safe money is on an AB v SA final and your fans and pundits have been writing us both off for months!! If I had a quid for every Scottish or Irish fan who said we would not make it out of the pool, I would be far more attractive to women. The cries of "no Am, no Pollard" still rings in my ears and I gain immense pleasure in thinking about how those two teams can watch us play in the SF from home, or Ireland or Scotland for the myriad foreigners in those two teams.
Come to think of it, we were in the same pool as Ireland weren't we? Really tough QF against an incredible French team, a team I actually feel sad at losing from the comp. When our rugby panels were talking about the pools months ago, your countrymen laughed at us and accused us of getting our excuses ready but now that you are out, it's all you can talk about?
You were right though - it's been a failure. A team with so many players so far north of 30 cannot play 5 games in 6 weeks and expect to still play another two. They had no plan B at all and just kept plodding away with the same pods and short passes again and again and again. That wasn't the pool or the draw, that was all Ireland.
So glad Johnny never smelt a WC semi. Arrogant, rude, cocky shyte. Gives me soooo much satisfaction.
How did the Springboks win the RWC then . . 7 games between July and August then another 7 games between September and October . . the last three games fielding the same players . . the problem wasn't that the Irish players were tired . . the problem is the depth in quality players . . Ireland already have a number of quality non-Irish players within their squad . . truth is, if you were to remove all non-Irish players from the squad, you will find what was once a 1st ranked team, would being a team ranked between 5th and 10th.
Somebody check on Matt Williams today 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Ireland can play 80% and win the world cup. Lets not forget that statement!
Ireland are overrated to be honest pundits saying that they will win the world cup etc...but yes this was the best Irish team in history but without sexton will be a weaker team
Matt should change his name to Katt Williams, WHAT A JOKER😂😂😂😂😂
Kearney was a loser as a player and hes a loser on this show 😂
He was a winner as a player actually. Do your research.
I hope Andy stays on with ireland, he has done some great things with this team. He is capable of taking them to the next level. He is that good of a coach.
Did he win a world cup?
Ireland played 2 hard against the boks,after effects of the 7/1 split
Go Bokkkkkke Can you Stop Hating the Boks For Crying out Loud we have the most respect for all teams but we seem to always get haters as a nation the Boks Will beat France
As a Kiwi I rate Andy he has shown a lot of class after this loss. .
As a Kiwi i wouldn't have felt that bad if Ireland won at the end of those 37 phases. Would have been complete justice if Aaron Smith aimlessly kicking the ball away for no reason lost NZ the game. I thought Ireland was the best team overall in the tournament but there's such small margins in the top teams, a few individuals having blinders or a few having poor games can impact everything. Ireland played their worst rugby while they were a man up against 14 players, kicking possession away poorly or infringing rather than building pressure.
You're absolutely right
Ireland's prep was fine. Excellent team with the ability to conquer all. The hungriest team won is all.
His (great) point on overplaying the main guys was not really heard at all
Watching matt Williams cry, brings me so much joy. 🤣
Pretty cool all the try's scored were by New Zealanders? Oh, and the referee scored one. Correct result. Ireland is very good. All Blacks just a little bit better. No excuses.
Lowe is too slow sexton should have been pulled off you need proper pace
Hahaha 😢😂
Ireland didn’t play the best as you guys commented because ABs put huge pressure and great defence out, didn’t they?
That wasn't causing terrible decision making, terrible fumbles with no NZ players within 20 meters, Andrew Porter giving away 2 completely unnecessary penalties early in the game or Keenan booting possesion away everytime he's alone on the wing. There were unforced errors and forced errors, it was the unforced ones that lost Ireland the game.
Every team in the world who loses a game are able to see reasons such as errors, ref calls, injuries etc. It’s best to start remembering this. Fact is ABs we’re better on the day
@@HeeniKeke Are you? Or are we just shit when it matters?
@@HeeniKeke The issue with that is we can literally compare the unforced errors of that game to every single other previous games and you'll find the disparity in frequency undismisable.
@@randomuruk7230 That’s fair comment. ABs have areas too where we let ourselves down too. It boils down to coaching and discipline, plus carrying burdens and weights of expectations being number 1 ranked and favourites. ABs learned to show mighty respect to every team they faced and not to believe a win was automatic. I don’t believe any Irish fans can say IRE didn’t play their best when ABs couldn’t break through Irish defence in beginning. Give your team more credit…the result could’ve gone either way
Ireland forgot this one crucial thing. THEY WERE THE PRIZE! When NZ said they played this as their final they weren't lying.
This AB side would be forgiven in NZ if they didn't win the Cup because better AB sides of past years also failed.
But what this AB side did that no other AB side had done in history was losing a test series to Ireland in NZ and are hurt about it. The nation reminded them of it at every opportunity.
So the team is on a recovery mission to restore the jersey they felt they had desecrated. I warned people about it before the tournament that this will make NZ a very dangerous opponent for Ireland should they meet. I wasn't even saying that they would beat Ireland but was laughed out of town.
Ireland is still a great side and should be proud of what they've achieved in the last 4 years.
Well put. The Abs were on a redeeming mission
Congratulations. You are clearly delighted.
They achieved nothing clearly
If most of us Kiwis are honest, we felt we would lose this game based on Irelands past two years vs ours. We are well aware that the ABs have the skill to beat anyone at anytime but we weren’t sure of their mental state under Foster. He survived by adding Schmidt and Ryan and that is the reason they turned a corner. What Ireland is experiencing now is what we have been through more than once at World Cups where we were number one and then did not win the cup. One game doesn’t define them so remember that and we can only hope someone like England who absolutely do not deserve to be World Champs have a couple of good games and end up being crowned Champs for 4 years. That is the negative of this tournament where average teams get a massive title that they do not necessarily deserve.
Thank you for your respectful comment. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.
Blah blah blah get that Irish meat out of your throat mate 😂
The difference is no one cares about Rugby in Ireland and this was an opportunity to change that, oh well.
"One game doesn’t define them"
I mean it literally does, regardless of the NZ series, the grandslam and the streak this is all that will be remembered. The rest doesn't matter.
Agreed. I was worried about the AB's culture problem, which is really an NZRFU culture problem, which has percolated into the team over the last couple of years, combined with Foster's style, which I'm not a fan of, I though we would struggle despite our skill levels. In the end, it was deep desire that got us there.
Judging by the amount of Irish supporters at their games I think there must be a few people in Ireland who are interested in rugby
Seems like the Irish have embraced rugby much more than Australia where the sporting dynamics are quite possibly similar 🤔
Ireland will be back. The system is in place and there are tremendous young players coming through. I expect Ireland to take the harsh lessons from this game and make the semifinals next RWC. No luck of the draw here getting NZ in the QFs who were under the pump and needed to prove a point. Like France Ireland could of faces Wales Fiji England or Argentina instead of SA/NZ and then they surely would of got the monkey off the back. Ireland are a quality side and they will be back stronger next time.
No se, a Irlanda parece que le gusta mostrarse cono una selección que no aguanta la presión, por algo no pasan de cuartos y el sorteo es una escusa ya que a Argentina en 2007 le toco Sudáfrica y si le tocaba Francia en ese año lo mas seguro que llegaba a la final y Irlanda ya jugo contra Argentina en eliminación directa y como le fue... y la pintaban con un candidato a ganar el WR, cuando no tienen la fortaleza mental para ganarla.
To quote Sunny Bill when interviewed after the England loss in 2019 when people in Japan were affected by tragedy...."its just a game, people are suffering with real issues".....you guys will bounce back. One loss does not define you. The world said that this NZ team was the worst ever. Never say never. Heads up lads.
Kerney always gets it wrong. Get someone else
Sexton demanding to play every game didn't help. Some munster players held back
Rugby is a team game but it sounds like Sexton has too much control over what goes on for Ireland.
All this talk from the Irish players of 'we feel like we let Jonny down' was a tell tale sign.
The other top sides have multiple options at 10. Ireland should've given Crowley more game time over the last year or so, so he could gel with this team and provide an impact off the bench in a game like yesterday.
A knackered Sexton isn't better than a fresh Crowley. I don't care what anyone says.
@@PB22559 💯% and the reason why sexton had to play was due to his foul mouth rant at champions cup final
Agree, not necessarily that Sexton shouldn't play, but nobody should be bigger than the team.
Some incredibly stupid questions from Tommy Martin to Andy Farrell --- review, any regrets.
37 phases at the end told the story.
While I am literally heartbroken not just for myself but for this wonderful team and staff
So very very proud of them and the wonderful memories I have
God bless the, all and I just hope they recover soon
Love to see them being sober minded. They were full of nonsense for weeks until now
England fan; what a great game... many teams would have folded down 13 so early, but not these guys. Just gutted that you didn't make it over the line. NZ played arguably their best game in a few years, and they needed every second of it too. No shame losing that game. Ireland Rugby is in a good place. Keep bringing us that joy. Andy Farrell is a class act.
NZ tactic is to make you work hard and wear you out which certainly contributed to their success in the last 10 mins
Ardie Savea broke the Irish breakdown so well done to Ardie, he is a work horse
In terms of ireland and quarter finals.
1987 to 2003: Ireland were awful and so shouldnt expect a SF.
2007: Dreadful management
2011: Should have beaten Wales
2015: Beaten by an average Argentinan side.
2019: Beaten fair and square by a vastly superior side.
2022: Beaten fair and square.
We arent entitled to a SF. There are only 2 QFs we should have won but didn't, it really isnt so strange.(2011, 2015)
In 1991 we were beaten by a point at the death by Australia. Could have won that with better game management.
2015 Argentina weren’t average, and Ireland were missing their best forward and back.
In any other world cup the game against the All Blacks would have been a final or a semifinal. It's only because WR couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery that it was the quarters. Bear in mind that while Ireland has done massively well in terms of developing nursery structures and coaching, that only puts them on par with the top teams, not above. On the day the bounce of a ball and a single mistake could be the match. Such is top tier rugby. I also think the Irish team were overplayed. This could have been because of the pool of death.
blah , blah , blah. who cares princess your team of mercenaries still lost you entitled muppet. why was this qf better than france v sa ??? you want to win the world cup , then go beat everyone put in front of you instead crying like babies when you get the draw you didn't want ;-)
Completely bottled it again unfortunately! We're not & never have been a top 4 team & yesterday just proved it!
You serious, how did they bottle it?
Ireland we’re never as good as they thought they were. Greatness is built over decades not two years.
You're just relieved we didn't win. Get over yourself.
@@taintabird23 But he's right.
Matt does have a point. Ireland were obviously faster and more surgical against Scotland. I said on another post after that match, that if Ireland can duplicate that accuracy and intensity against NZ then they would win. NZ hasn't looked that hungry or accurate before this match, especially at the breakdown. NZ upped their game 30% and Ireland dropped 20% from their previous game. The fact that NZ did it with 14 players for 20 minutes, was even more impressive.
I believe Ireland left it all out there on the paddock that day, However I believe fitness played a big part in this game with speed of ball with ball in play. Every aspect of the game was displayed by both teams where the finest margins could have resulted in a different outcome. Thankyou Ireland.🎉🎉
Im an ABs fan but Andy Farell is a legend awesome coach great man love him
NZ played South Africa and Then Ireland two weeks later, got a lot of key injuries in the SA game.
Ireland fans and media were too arrogant. Good that there were knocked out of the tournament.
Undermining the all blacks 😮
Springboks have won it several times,but playing against New Zealand is massive does not matter the form or rank of them
Bullshit. Nobody was arrogant. Even your own bookies in NZ made Ireland favourites for the game. How did Ireland undermine NZ? Was it the winning of the series in NZ?
It was you lot that took Ireland for granted.
Enjoy the rest of the tournament my insufferably arrogant friend.
Over analysis .. on a flip of a coin defeat. Thats top class Rugby. No one is perfect.
Matt WIlliams has been poking the SH bear...I'm sure he must be the sole blame!
Breaking news Ian Foster has re-signed a contract with the NZRU that if he wins the world cup he will retain his position of the head coach of the All Blacks and Razors contract will be terminated.
The All Blacks did their homework. Instead of attacking Sexton, they attacked players around him, disrupting the Irish flow, put them under pressure and forcing the Irish making mistakes.
That's what they said on TV.
Ireland not playing their best game had New Zealand on their knees and the Kelleher maul not downed? WTF
Maybe, I need to watch it back but I thought Kelleher left the maul slightly early. They looked like they had the momentum to maul it over.
The turnover out the side of the ruck that lead to 70m gain for Ireland. The light penalty for pulling Barrett down as he went for the ball in the air… Ireland were lucky in these calls. That they couldn’t turn to a b plan, that they couldn’t beat a focused and motivated AB’s team who played 25% of the match a man down, only speaks to the pressure the AB’s put Ireland under. Immense defence and presence at the breakdown defined this game.
I couldn’t disagree with your analysis more.
They didn't play their best
Mental skills. That's what the All Black's had to do, after 03, and 07. The stress, when they came up against a team which their game plan didn't work. Ritchie McCaw said as much.
Give All blacks there credit. Ireland didn’t play bad at all, All Blacks just played better.
Ireland were atrocious.
Ireland i think lost because of line out battle, gave up so much quality ball from that phase of the game, and NZ smothered the midfield and prevented the quick inside ball beloved of Sexton so therefore Ireland had to start chasing the game wide. Also very rarely do you see Ireland concede a try from phase one ball in there own half. Fine margins.
Lot of scoreboard journalists in the comments here. If Ireland had got the ball down at the end we'd be talking about how amazing this team was. Ireland beat SA who just beat France. Kiwis were the better team and just about squeaked through. It'll just be interesting to see Farrell 2.0 and replacing Sexton and Peter OMahoney and the rest. Still think we have players on the team that could get on any team in the world.
Your players barely make it on the all blacks. Maybe only aki but he from there. 20 mins a man up and don't capitalize. Yall choked. Grab some tissues because your bench came on and had no effect. 20 more years 😂😂😂😂
Absolutely love seeing them miserable after they all slated England vs Japan 😂😂😂
England were still shocking vs a Japan far worse than 4 years ago. Gifted path to a semi final
Just because we're miserable, doesn't mean England are good ;)
@@zombievikinggaming4258 Not that you'd know much about semi-finals as an Irishman...
@@Camcolito gone further than you in practically every World Cup 😂😂 even with your so called best team you couldn’t make it past the quarters ;)
You do realise the teams you have played yeah 😂😂😂