Does Fuel Stabilizer Prevent Ethanol Damage? Let's find out!

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  • E85, E10 and non-ethanol gasoline compared after 9 months of storage with and without fuel stabilizer (Lucas Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner with Stabilizers) to determine if fuel stabilizer prevents corrosion and keeps gasoline from becoming stale.
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  • @ProjectFarm
    @ProjectFarm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Thanks for requesting this one. I have another video on fuel stabilizer on the way but it'll be a couple of more months before they fuel has reached 12 months. Here's a link to Lucas Oil Safeguard Ethanol Fuel Conditioner: amzn.to/2YoesHa

    • @bobthompson4319
      @bobthompson4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It seems like the non ethanol fuel will run but the engine needs to be hot already. Like the spark plug and exhaust valve need to be at operating temperature? Maybe? Or at least very hot. Because ether burns very hot and makes engines hot "warming them up" and allowing them to stay running. But just because they run i have no doubt that the work that the engine will be abke to do with that poor fuel will definitely be less.

    • @SeaPro360
      @SeaPro360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Great videos. Would you do one with marine Stabil (blue) and E-10? I just don't know of anyone who uses Lucas. Keep up the good work.

    • @heyitsdrew
      @heyitsdrew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      does the stabilizer go bad? that would be something to test, like what if after a couple months you would add some fresh stabilizer or a little fresh fuel?
      on a side note: I'm not a chemist but what if whatever attracts water to ethanol is taken out of the equation? such as a water-like compound which replaces it in ethanol so that it can burn instead

    • @mjktrash
      @mjktrash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was looking for an "Old" fuel video, good thinking!

    • @Fixin2Ride-Official-
      @Fixin2Ride-Official- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet you could get a good idea on how the fuels affect the rubber components by a pressure needed for compression of the rubber to a certain distance. So for example the new hose fuel hose would be the control reading and would give a reading of say 1.5psi needed to make the inside of the hose touch each other when pinched off. Something of that sort. With other stuff you could pinch it and get a reading, and then measure the distance pinched for the reading you got and make a shim of that thickness of metal or use a certain thickness metal from the beginning. This would give you the most accurate comparison between the rubber products.
      You can contact me further if you want to do this but I didn't completely explain myself well enough. ;o) I really like your videos.
      God Bless!
      Andrew C.

  • @gtg289b
    @gtg289b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +991

    Hey! I'm an engine design engineer that's designed fuel systems and engines from big diesels to small 2-strokes. You mentioned not having a way to measure the effect on the rubber components. The 2 biggest problems with elastomers exposed to ethanol are swell and embrittlement. You can measure swelling by measuring dimensions (or volume) before and after, or you can measure mass change (be sure to dry the sample out before weighing). For embrittlement the best way to measure is measuring durometer. Without having a durometer tester you can use a fixed load to press a dull point (like a punch) into the elastomer and measure how deep it sinks into the sample under this load.
    I used to design consumer-grade 2-stroke outdoor power equipment. I'd always tell people if you use E10 the degradation of elastomers (fuel lines, carburetor diaphragms, etc...) will kill your product long before the engine dies.
    Really enjoyed the video.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Eric, Great suggestions! Thank you very much!

    • @jhopk83388
      @jhopk83388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Your the perfect person for this question RE : lawn boy 2 stroke engines that require 35:1 oil gas mix . I don’t use the old lawn boy oil but rather modern 2 stroke synthetic oil . Is 50:1 ok ? I read that it’s ok with modern synthetic oil. Also ALL my other equipment uses 50:1. It would be nice to just make one batch of fuel . Thanks

    • @K2SKIER112
      @K2SKIER112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jhopk83388 A 40 (+) year professional lawnmower and Marine mechanic here; I have 27 year old "M" series running 64:1 with a oil mixing system. An older F engine, I'd only go 40:1. If it's a newer Dura Force. Yes go 50:1

    • @jhopk83388
      @jhopk83388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      K2SKIER112 Thank you for the reply !! I have a lawn boy 6431 (1987) I believe that’s an F series and a newer 22260 (2004) with the 6.5 Dura Force ( my daily) .

    • @jhopk83388
      @jhopk83388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      K2SKIER112 Tell us your winterizing process ! 😀

  • @thisbenfeller
    @thisbenfeller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1160

    Another experiment that is multiple months (nearly a year) in the making! This is why you are just plain awesome. All without big box sponsorships.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Thank you! You are right. No need for sponsors. I love the freedom to provide independent testing without any outside arm twisting!!

    • @MV60
      @MV60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ProjectFarm Yep, I like how it's just based upon products anyone can buy and based upon companies products claims and having the end result of they're actually telling the truth or they're full of crap, don't trust them. This sort of thing is what keeps them in check as there is no buy out option for them.

    • @TERRORoftheLORD
      @TERRORoftheLORD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah!

    • @ElectricalExistence
      @ElectricalExistence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ProjectFarm have you tested the benefits of marvel mystery oil?

    • @hankschrader149
      @hankschrader149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ElectricalExistence yes he sure has! He has done quite a bit of testing with MMO

  • @halflife82
    @halflife82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    This is such a great video. As a small engine mechanic I really appreciate all the time you spent, especially taking time to do this one. I “knew” this but seeing the proof is so satisfying. Thank you again!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @dcgo44r
      @dcgo44r ปีที่แล้ว

      You knew what? That fuel stabilizer doesn't do anything? Lol..

  • @Eric_W
    @Eric_W ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you Todd, I'm glad you enjoy doing these things for us everyday people! You, good sir, are a HUGE ASSET to us all! Your honest straight forward opinion is invaluable to many of us, so thank you for that! What I like most about your videos is you're just like us people watching... a normal person that (assuming here) doesn't have a degree in sciences to help us better understand what we're getting/buying. You perform tests exactly the way a normal person would and your explanations are as thorough as possible! What I don't understand is why these businesses can claim something about their product when they know it's BS! You really help us see the "just gimme your money" companies out there which is needed now-a-days!!

  • @o0Avalon0o
    @o0Avalon0o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    I love how serious you take this, it makes me feel respect for what you do

  • @fleghel
    @fleghel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Dude, that’s a lot of work to bust some myths and end some “never ending” debates....
    THANK YOU!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the idiots will keep debating, just like religion has always existed in blatant opposition of science...

    • @funguynstc
      @funguynstc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad he takes the time to do these test. And they do show what Ethanol will do to certain types of plastic and rubber lines, as well as aluminum, and it's a pretty good bet that in some manufactures fuel injection systems that do not use as high as quality materials as other manufactures do, and even though they claim they use Ethanol safe parts in their fuel systems, in time, because of lower quality materials that will be used by some to lower production cost, the owner is going to have fuel system problems caused just by using Ethanol.
      Just think of what Ethanol is going to do in time to lower quality replacement parts like those lower cost Ebay fuel injection fuel pumps and fuel regulators.

    • @Derkenblosh2
      @Derkenblosh2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like I'll be draining ALL the fuel from my boat... This should be fun to find somewhere to send it 😒

    • @dirtyfacegeorge9938
      @dirtyfacegeorge9938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Derkenblosh2 put it in your car

  • @johnvandenburgh8771
    @johnvandenburgh8771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Pretty interesting video, confirming many of my thoughts on ethanol. I do small engine repair and have seen carburetors become damaged beyond repair after a machine sits for a year. When I was a young man (circa 1972-1978) I mowed the grass at my parents house. I used a Toro Reel Mower, I never had a problem firing it up and it was used pretty regularly. Ethanol had not come into the picture yet. From time to time over the years after I moved out I went and mowed for my mom. She hired gardeners and they never used that old mower. Every time I went and mowed for my mom that old machine fired right up. There were several times I didn't mow her grass with that machine for well over a year, even 2 or 3 years and it always fired right up.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @NoFeeArea
      @NoFeeArea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the stuff is garbage. I leave gas sitting in the mower or snowblower until the next season and Never had an issue with carburetors or starting up after choking and a couple pulls. The fuel evaporates out of the carb anyways in probably less than a day and the tanks are sealed. If it were a big issue the carbs would be junk after one season or two of using because when you are done each snowstorm or mowing there is always gas sitting in the carburetor until the following mow time or snow. This isn't the case. I call bunk on these additives.

    • @charles09361
      @charles09361 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NoFeeArea Interesting view.. Allow me to rebut..
      First point.. Older stuff Equipment), is way more forgiving than newer stuff. Emission compliance mandates force manufacturers to tune lean.. That means smaller orifices in the carbs, that plug up way easier than twenty years ago.
      Second point... "Fuel evaporates out of the carbs".. Well that only happens if there is a fuel shut off.. and you actually use it! Otherwise, on a lawnmower, or snowblower, the fuel tank will gravity feed against the needle valve in the float bowl, and keep the carb filled with fuel. Fuel evaporation, is exactly just that. The "fuel" evaporates, and leaves behind varnish. The only way to avoid that, is to shut off the fuel to the carb, and run it dry.
      Third point... " and the tanks are sealed". Ummm .. On a 2 stroke, they are, on a 4 stroke, they're vented. Basically, if a carb has a float, on a small engine, it's vented. If there's no float bowl, it's sealed. That's why you can run a weed eater or chainsaw upside down.. It has a fuel diaphragm as a fuel pump, and it's run by compression pulses from the crankcase. As a carb that has a gravity feed fuel system, it has to have a fuel cap vent to allow the fuel to flow. Take the un-vented fuel tank cap off your 2 stroke weed eater, put it on your lawnmower and see how long it runs before it starves for fuel and dies, because there's no way for air to get into the fuel tank, creating a vacuum.
      So, which is it? " The fuel evaporates out of the carb in less than a day", or, " there is always gas gas sitting in the carburettor until the following mow time or snow." Ya can't have it both ways.
      If you can leave untreated Ethanol pump gas in your snowblower from one season till the next, and it starts in a couple of pulls... You're way luckier than the rest of us..

    • @NoFeeArea
      @NoFeeArea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@charles09361 Allow me to retort. Ihave never used any fuel treatment. After a few pulls (mower in the spring) or (blower in fall) everything starts right up and after 30 seconds runs great. It's overkill and a waste of money IMO. Not for me.

    • @rhealvalade9902
      @rhealvalade9902 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ĺ

  • @clayreal
    @clayreal ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much! Always empirical and precise! After years of watching you I believe you were the start of many people taking their self serious and they’re testing to a new level. I do believe you sent the bar hire for others to follow. We all thank you for that.

  • @199vinny
    @199vinny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    I seriously never write comments but your videos have the least bias test (if any) I have seen I'm sure I speak for a lot of us when I say awesome content and extremely informative and somehow interesting 👍👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you very much for taking the time to comment and for the positive feedback! It means a lot and keeps me going!!

    • @conniegomez1321
      @conniegomez1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      have used Lucas products for months now!!!

    • @williamlee3066
      @williamlee3066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectFarm do you have a video on rust removal in a coolant system? I have an 82 isuzu pup diesel engine that has a serious rust issue and I'm trying to clean it up please help!

  • @FishFind3000
    @FishFind3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Perfect timing since we are going into winter storage soon.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you!

    • @thegeneral7484
      @thegeneral7484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now I will be draining some fuel this weekend.

    • @evanchapmanfanman
      @evanchapmanfanman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The General It May also be a good idea to spray the interior of the carb down with wd40 to preserve the carb even further, anytime I put a carb into long term storage, I use wd40 to guard against corrosion.

  • @OlysGarage
    @OlysGarage ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a FANTASTIC video comparison of what effects Ethanol in fuel has on older conventional fuel systems. As a classic car restorer, everybody knows that most car hobbyists use their classic car much like a motorcycle and small gas engine- Seasonal. And we endure the same fate as they do every time spring hits and we want to take our cars out. I've been hoping to find someone that did a well thought out and well presented video so show proof of what I've been preaching locally since E10 became the standard at all our local pumps. Your comprehensive testing is FANTASTIC and showing proof of the ill effects of Ethanol in fuel in limited use engines and fuel systems. I believe it's also to blame for a rise in vehicle fires from degrading fuel lines without people's knowledge. I had a few instances I luckily caught before it became a fire hazard! (ate right through the fuel line itself) So thank you for doing this video! I will certainly share it around to make sure others are informed!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @watsoft70
    @watsoft70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The UK has recently started using E10 fuel as "regular petrol" and I was interested to watch this video for the effect on both automotive and small engines. Thank you for such thorough testing.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @niceguy4928
    @niceguy4928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I immediately went to drain the tanks and ran the carbs empty on my mowers, weed eaters, saws and powerwasher for the winter👍 thanks again

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      HAHA! I am going to do the same!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Great choice! Thank you!

    • @fixitrod4969
      @fixitrod4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't forget to run the carbs dry.

    • @flick22601
      @flick22601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You might want to use something like Seafoam (read the instructions) before storing it. I purchased 'canned' fuel and after draining and running my small engines dry, put some in the fuel tank and started them up for about 30 seconds. We'll see how they are next spring.

    • @isaakwelch3451
      @isaakwelch3451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always run the carbs dry before winter.

  • @adrianking8911
    @adrianking8911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I love the thoroughness of your experiments , you take every eventuality you can think of into account. Excellent !

  • @AndyDepwe
    @AndyDepwe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just watched some click bait video about you, Todd. In they said you have likely earned upwards, if not more than 2 million dollars for the videos you’ve created. You’ve earned every penny. You make great videos that have taught me a lot and saved me money. Keep up the awesome work and I hope you make 2 million more!!! Thanks for all you do.

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has been more than 2 years since this video went up so I guess part 2 has been released by now (I will watch that as soon as I track it down). Thank you for the good works you perform. Also thank you for the summing up near the end. I did have trouble keeping track of the individual results but the summing up brought it all back into focus.

  • @stevesether
    @stevesether 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Amazing.
    You've completely validated what I've been doing with my lawnmower and snowblower for the last 13 years. Every spring I run my snowblower out of gasoline, and put it in storage. Then I make my twice yearly trip to the "special" gas station to buy non-oxygenated (non-ethanol) gasoline. I then add sta-bil to the gasoline. In the late fall, I perform the same procedure on the lawnmower, and replace the gasoline again and get the snowblower to start. In 13 years I've had 0 problems with both small engines, and they both start right up with one or two pulls.
    I was more than a little shocked to see how much gunk was in the ethanol + aluminum containers, and absolutely zero in the non-ethanol ones. I'm tickled to see that the practice I heard about years ago stands up extremely well to experiment!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks!

    • @Weezulguy
      @Weezulguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How does what he posted validate the need for stabilizer at all? My conclusion is that it doesn't do anything at all based on those last two runs...
      I definitely agree that running everything dry is the best approach, I let them sit with the caps off with a rag over it so they can evaporate anything else out as well.

    • @scarhart53
      @scarhart53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The best way is to use only no ethanol fuel at all times, and leave the tank full all winter to keep moisture out. You can run the carb dry if you want, but with E0 gas, it doesn't really make any difference.

    • @brentiverson1654
      @brentiverson1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t need to mix stabil with non ethanol. Stabil needs ethanol spray to bind to if it doesn’t have any it’s pointless

    • @stevesether
      @stevesether 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brentiverson1654 Stabil pre-dates putting ethanol in fuel, so no, it's not just for ethanol fuel.
      Gasoline also degrades itself over time, and causes problems for engines. Still, it'd be interesting to see what problems other than water contamination corrosion sta-bil solves in non-ethanol fuel.

  • @CubNole
    @CubNole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I didn’t know that this was the video I’ve waited my whole life for until you uploaded it.
    Thank you for your hard work!

  • @Haroldesparkes
    @Haroldesparkes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You deserve an award for your review/test videos. Definitely the best on the web. And this one is my favorite.

  • @usethenoodle
    @usethenoodle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an outlet, a rural station that carries Non E fuel in 93 octane. In that area, there are a lot of farms, and the Gifford Pinchot Nat. Forrest, a Valhalla for Dirt Bikes, and ATV's in summer and snowmobilers in winter. It's expensive at ~$2.00 more per gallon than regular E-10 but they have it. I have done the water test on it to be sure it's the real deal and it passed. No Alcohol present. At the end of snowmobile season, I bring 10 gallons home- about 40 miles away and it's gets me through the summer with all my portable power equipment. This was a great video and I really appreciate you making it. 10/10 with two thumbs up!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @Mark-sn6kh
    @Mark-sn6kh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    When I was a firefighter we started to run Trufuel in all of our small engines. Saws, pumps, generators, lights, etc. The repairs to equipment went down drastically as a lot of them sit for long periods of time until they're needed.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you for the information

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's what I use in all my 2 stroke equipment...works great, never any starting issues.

    • @robertb2744
      @robertb2744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We did the same thing in my department. Repair costs plummeted after we moved to Trufuel. Ethanol was ruining our 2 stroke engines!

    • @mtaviator
      @mtaviator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same for me. Started using Trufuel in my garden equipment- no more carburetor issues.

    • @SOU6900
      @SOU6900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know of a fire department here locally that runs 100LL av-gas in their chain saw. Also have an old 1916 American LaFrance that loves it.

  • @wizzells
    @wizzells 4 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    Would love to see this comparison with various brands, specifically:
    Sta-bil
    Star Tron
    Sea Foam.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Thank you for the video idea!

    • @bigbob16
      @bigbob16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I think a lot of us would like to see that comparison test

    • @Wrecked01
      @Wrecked01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Awesome idea. I use Star Tron in everything.

    • @johnnyturbo8460
      @johnnyturbo8460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lol don't leave out Amsoil!!!

    • @larryamos6214
      @larryamos6214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Please add PRI-G to the test.

  • @maccurtinequipmentservice8915
    @maccurtinequipmentservice8915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very fantastic and informative video! I’ve actually forwarded it to a customer who has sent me several pieces of equipment to be fixed.
    The most recent was a generator power by Briggs & Stratton engine. The factory has not even made a carburetor in months so it was difficult to replace it with an OEM unit. I had also replaced the in tank fuel filter switch fuel line, and other items. I believe the last week point in the chain was probably old gas. He brought me a jug of ethanol free fuel, but I have no idea how old it is. Your tests show that the ethanol free fuel does seem to burn, but with help from starting fluid which is exactly what I did.
    Thank you again!

  • @dougjastremski9087
    @dougjastremski9087 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video!! I currently have 41 small gasoline engines that I have to worry about. I have been adamant about and consistently stabilizing all my fuel for over 10 years now but I STILL had problems.
    This video really connected the dots for me with all my symptoms and improved my life. Now I happily drive over 100 miles (from south east CT) to the nearest station with ethanol free gasoline. Of course I will still stabilize; but at least the ethanol is gone! Thank you times 1 million!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    PROJECT FARM JUSTIFIES THE VERY EXISTENCE OF TH-cam! !!!!! ty so much for your efforts

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you very much!

    • @AgustinBernardo
      @AgustinBernardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One word: PATREON

    • @ncgsc
      @ncgsc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BINGO!!!

    • @bobthompson4319
      @bobthompson4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best truest comment on youtube.
      THIS COMMENT JUSTIFIES THE EXISTENCE OF THE COMMENT SECTION.

    • @stephenrickstrew7237
      @stephenrickstrew7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Touché

  • @Matt-dc8lp
    @Matt-dc8lp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    This is why it's worth the extra couple bucks to only use ethanol free fuels for your small engines (mower, whipper, snowblower, etc).

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Agree. I always drive the extra 15 miles round trip to purchase ethanol free for the small engines. Well worth it!

    • @Zach-ju5vi
      @Zach-ju5vi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Shhhh this is how I make make money lol.

    • @n1elkyfan
      @n1elkyfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This is why I'm working on going to electric for anything that would need a small engine.

    • @Rottidog68
      @Rottidog68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Re-thinking the jerry can of mixed fuel I have. Don't want premature anything on the Stihl & McCulloch chainsaws.
      Going to add Sta-Bil Storage to the can next time I fill it up. They say it's good for a year in the machine, no issues.

    • @vik1299
      @vik1299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      In Germany, even the normal Gasoline has 5% Ethanol

  • @scottsinger
    @scottsinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best real world analysis on fuel I've seen. Thank you!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

  • @brandanlaura4110
    @brandanlaura4110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for doing this test. It’s so great that you left the fuel in the jars for so long. I have always wondered about these fuels and stabilizers and the impact on corrosion. This video is super valuable to me. Thank you so much.

  • @nicks9815
    @nicks9815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thank you for investigating this much debated issue

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much!

  • @DoubleRRHonda
    @DoubleRRHonda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Please test Stabil! I put this in my motorcycles when I’m away at college. Thanks again for these videos.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Great test idea! Thank you

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same result. When storing an engine you need to drain the fuel system (including carbs & injectors), preferably with the last tank of fuel being ethanol free. The more modern carbs have a coating to combat this, and don't corrode to this degree.

    • @MichaelMiller-od6pu
      @MichaelMiller-od6pu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, I use Stabil as well

    • @FormulaZR
      @FormulaZR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agree 100%. Would like to see original and ethanol StaBil tested

    • @jacobcurtis6849
      @jacobcurtis6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stabil is just ATF

  • @markc7551
    @markc7551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. More significant corrosion and issues than I expected. Excellent demonstration and presentation. Thanks!

  • @michaeld9731
    @michaeld9731 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite TH-cam channel, by far! Thanks for all the tests/reviews you do! 😀
    👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @rogerlanoie5848
    @rogerlanoie5848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Now we are talking.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks and hope you enjoy the video!

  • @simplecyberclub
    @simplecyberclub 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought a generator, and this answers the top questions I had on fuel and component longevity. GREAT VIDEO!

  • @Lees920
    @Lees920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always run the best tests and they are all relavent. Thanks!

  • @MajorDumperoo
    @MajorDumperoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    We just bought a generator and I'm going to show my family this to illustrate the importance of using non-ethanol fuel in it. Thanks for the hard work and time you put into these videos.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are welcome!

    • @tinytownsoftware7989
      @tinytownsoftware7989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where do you find it? The only place I can find it here is at Home Depot for $25/gallon. That is way too expensive to run a generator.

    • @bobshanery5152
      @bobshanery5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tinytownsoftware7989
      Biggest problem is when its stored and not running for long periods of time. If you run that gen every few months (Say 3-6) I doubt it matters.
      If you plan to store that gen for a few years (with fuel in it) then you probably should go with those fuel tanks at hardware stores. They supposedly last for up to 2 years opened and 5 years unopened.
      Could also just run your gen, burn out the old fuel and then replace with new fuel every few months as well. You just don't want the stuff sitting for long periods of time... as this video showed. Could also empty the fuel out for storage but I seen this dry out components but I'm no expert if that's common or not. I noticed I replaced parts early when I used to do that.. Not sure
      Some gas stations still sell gas without that crap in it (as they all should). There are sites and aps dedicated to this.

    • @mattfinleylive
      @mattfinleylive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just run 'er out and make sure the bowl is empty...

    • @paulnicholson1906
      @paulnicholson1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I drain the carb after using my generator. When I didn’t the carb was really a mess and it wouldn’t start.

  • @ripperace
    @ripperace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Finally, a “real world” test that proves what I’ve been telling my customers for years. Thank you! I’ve shared this video to my business page as more proof of what ethanol enhanced fuels can do to equipment if not properly maintained.

    • @PAD32
      @PAD32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Long answer : It's not a real world test, but a worst case scenario where the fuel has been intentionnaly contaminated with water. In real world, you will not get as much water if your fuel. Also, carburator are more prone to damage, but they are not compatible with ethanol. Injection systems (100% of modern vehicules) are much less exposed to corrosion because there is no air (and therefore no water) in the fuel lines and injectors. Also, all modern fuel tanks are in plastic or have a protection layer in it, so it will not corrode either.
      I'm not saying there is no corrosion at all, but it's certainly not something to worry about, unless you store your vehicule for a long period.
      Short answer : in real world, with a modern vehicule, ethanol based fuel will not cause significative corrosion (except maybe if you store it for a long time).

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you

    • @PAD32
      @PAD32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @mark robertson Wow, you totally changed my mind, thanks for opening my eyes ! Joke aside, just saying "disagree" brings nothing to the conversation ;-) . If you have factual counter argument, I would be happy to hear it

    • @PAD32
      @PAD32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Blind Squid I know ethanol is hygroscopic, I'm just saying that what we see in those tests is an extreme scenario. You can find similar tests where there was no intentional contamination, and there was no corrosion at all.
      If the ethanol damaged your vehicle to the point of it running bad, it would still be the case after you stopped using it. What kind of degradation did you see ?
      I don't know about other countries, but in France, there is no ethanol free gasoline. The "best" you can get contains up to 5% ethanol, and that's true since at least a decade. If it was an issue, there would be a lot of cars mysteriously breaking down since the apparition of biofuel. But that's not happening.
      You don't go from perfectly fine at 5% ethanol, to catastrophic failure at 10%. So just don't worry about it...
      I use only E85 since 1 year (with a modded car), and I have no issue at all. About exhaust temperature, injector saturation etc, I read a lot of bullshit, so I tested everything myself, and everything works just the same as with gasoline, but that's not the topic.
      I did a lot of research a year ago, before converting my car, and I couldn't find any reliable evidence that ethanol caused damage to any modern car on the internet.
      Overall, there is let's say no negative feedback. And yet people like to complain...
      People saying it damage engines never has proofs. They just relay what they found on random crappy auto blog or website.
      BUT
      I agree that it MAY cause damages to some parts in direct contact with the fuel in the long run, like fuel pump or injectors. I'm not even sure about that, as those parts are designed to work with ethanol in every modern car.
      But honestly, I save the equivalent of 1000$ each year just in fuel. So if I have to replace a fuel pump a little sooner than expected, I just don't care...

    • @Pinion512
      @Pinion512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PAD32 The issue isnt so much with modern vehicles though, it's with small engines. Those of us that wrench on mowers see damage from ethanol every single day.
      Part of me is okay with it as it puts dollars in my pocket. Another part of me doesn't like it because it drives up costs and can lead to customers just hiring their mowing out and thus, I end up with less money in the long run.

  • @edwardallan197
    @edwardallan197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    PF dude, you are a scientist at heart! You use enuff 'controls' to actually learn something! Thanks for answering some of this old mechanic's questions.....

  • @kellismith4329
    @kellismith4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is truly the subscription that just keeps giving, great work!

  • @circularpizzabox2134
    @circularpizzabox2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A 9 month test. You sir are a king. Thank you for your selfless service.

  • @djbishop30189
    @djbishop30189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love this channel! Thanks for all of the effort that you put into these presentations. Right to the point. No BS, no background music, just like we like it.

  • @nheng6913
    @nheng6913 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos on TH-cam. Great comparisons and demos. I'm now convinced that removing ethanol from my small engine fuel is a worthwhile effort.

  • @janyoung1633
    @janyoung1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for running that test. Great work!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @lawnfascist4890
    @lawnfascist4890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For me, this is the best comparison video you've done. I have to have the "fuel" talk with people a lot. Thank you for taking the time to do this stuff and share your results with us all.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

    • @ImTheJoker4u
      @ImTheJoker4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pump gas is for your car. Everything else takes fuel.

  • @furiousbeast7685
    @furiousbeast7685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much, Todd for making this video! I remember asking you to make this several months ago and am so excited to see you making the video! Props to you for your hard work and efforts, and the work put forth to wait almost a year for results. Best regards.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much!!

  • @barnes29510
    @barnes29510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I automatically hit the *LIKE BUTTON* before I watch his video. Because I already know it's going to be an awesome experience! Keep it up my man! You're doing a positive for the people! 👍🍻

  • @hansdybka1331
    @hansdybka1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sept. 2021 and i just watched this...all the carbs i have cleaned for myself and friends...this has given me an understanding of the issues..thanks!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Glad to hear!

  • @UncleJoe1231
    @UncleJoe1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My rototiller was running rough & started hard this spring. I took the carb apart & it was all corroded inside. I cleaned it all up & started using RV gas, thats what they call it in Michigan. When I saw how much better it ran, I switched my lawn mower & snow blower over to it as well. The rototiller now starts on one pull EVERY time & my rider runs way better!! It isn't even that much more. I get 90 octane RV(no alcohol) & it was only $3.20/gallon. 87 octane for my car is $2.75 & as little as you use, I'll never go back!!! Thank You!!!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing this experience!!

  • @jamescohenour856
    @jamescohenour856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This guy is the best most detailed unbiased reviewer on TH-cam ! At first I thought he was getting kickbacks from seafoam or Lucas but upon further watching I think he is actually legit ... Very awesome.. keep it up and don't take the bait or we will find out!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

    • @blautens
      @blautens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One - if he's taking money from Seafoam and/or Lucas, they should ask for their money back, because he's shown other competitive products that also perform well. Two - my police officer "spidey-sense" (developed when I was a police officer and I was bitten by a radioactive junky - or maybe they had Hep C - meh, probably both) doesn't tingle. Seriously - just look at that man - you'd do well to buy a house on a handshake from a man like that.

    • @MyNewUserName47
      @MyNewUserName47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectFarm new long term project for fuel treatments? also to see if it acutally does restore old gas. they also have a treatment for diesel check the flyers pri-fuel.com/

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned something. It is good to see real examples of the effects different types of fuel have over time.

  • @Tmrfe0962
    @Tmrfe0962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir are the premier consumer reports….thanks for taking the time and tremendous effort.

  • @reveldark3880
    @reveldark3880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    You have a fan I’d like to tell you about: Cyndy, my now 64 year old mom loves watching your videos. Used to work operations at Dow Chemical in Louisiana. When I’m over she asks me to “Put my man on the TV please.” We watch your videos together like we used to do with TV shows like Breaking Bad, Burn Notice, and Walking Dead, just another excuse to spend time together.
    She loves the high information content and the “man working with his hands” feel, she especially liked the farmabago episode, since she grew up working the family gas station and farm in the 60s. Now retired from the plant and the United States Air Force, you’re one of the “new programs she loves to watch.”
    And oh of course “oh now isn’t he HANDSOME.”

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Awesome! Thank you very much!

    • @jor-d5640
      @jor-d5640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lmfao that's awesome!

    • @Blessed.2.Teach.4God
      @Blessed.2.Teach.4God 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Quite a story to share (w such genuine sentiment) to receive such a short generic reply.
      Even though the comment wasn't for me, thank you for sharing.

    • @charliecharlie9377
      @charliecharlie9377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blessed.2.Teach.4God He's married.

    • @Blessed.2.Teach.4God
      @Blessed.2.Teach.4God 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@charliecharlie9377 I wasn't suggesting a more romantic response, just a more appreciative response considering what all was written.

  • @NoName-ik2du
    @NoName-ik2du 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for giving a good visual on how ethanol affects older fuel systems. All my cars are 40+ years old and carbureted, so I use ethanal-free gas from the station right down the road from my house. Glad to know I'm not throwing my money away by paying the small premium for the ethanol-free stuff.
    In the past, I did have some carbureted cars that I ran on the 10% ethanol gas, and I did start to experience some problems after a few years of that. The cars still ran well enough that I could keep them going down the road (with some babying at times), but there were clearly issues. Wasn't sure if it was just age, or if the fuel was the problem. Based on this, I'd say the E10 fuel was most likely a big contributor to my issues.

  • @williamsporing1500
    @williamsporing1500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, astound me with how thorough you are with these tests.

  • @phbob-5547
    @phbob-5547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! Answers a host of questions. Explains why my mower shop promotes Alcohol free gas. Had no fuel/carb problems since the switch. You just proved WHY.

  • @Dretired
    @Dretired 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Keep the practical experimental research coming. This channel is a top recommendation to my friends.

  • @mortenvanvik7082
    @mortenvanvik7082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    These videos gives me the same good feeling as Mythbusters did. And you are a one man show. Thank you!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except that Mythbusters was entertainment only, frequently discarding real science despite the image they cultivated.
      This channel is genuine.

  • @willowwillowy3635
    @willowwillowy3635 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate ALL you do, great, informative videos, please keep it up !!

  • @ron.v
    @ron.v 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of all your videos, this has been the most helpful. Knowledge we all need to rely on. Big Thanks!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! Glad to hear!

  • @octaldecimal2729
    @octaldecimal2729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was a Small Engine mechanic for 5 years and Ethanol was by far the most common issue with all equipment, Great video, Great content, Great TH-camr. Keep up the good work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @jonnybmk6212
      @jonnybmk6212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Seafoam any good? I use it with non-oxy and run the bowl dry and refill tank with seafoam and non-oxy before storage.

  • @emroy.129
    @emroy.129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    this is a dedicated man, i have much respect for the patience he has for doing each one of these videos

  • @factsoveremotions6035
    @factsoveremotions6035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve been adding Sta-Bil to my boats gas tank, lawnmower gas, snowblower, etc. Recently, my Stihl chainsaw sat for 1.5yrs in my shed with gas sitting in it with Sta-Bil, started 4th pull. Sometimes I cheap out and get E-10 gas, but always add Sta-Bil. Love Sta-Bil! Just add the 2ozs whenever you fill a 5 gallon can up. Life changing habit.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @davidwclair2358
      @davidwclair2358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucas products are snakeoil.

    • @factsoveremotions6035
      @factsoveremotions6035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidwclair2358 I’ve tried Lucas products. Never noticed a difference.

  • @shadow-Sun
    @shadow-Sun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Project Farm ...you knocked it out of the park once again , this is a very relevant topic in the UK as the government has just introduced mandatory E10 ethanol level in out gasoline so there is a raging debate going on at the moment here with petrol heads on this very subject . Thanks a lot for your work much appreciated by many people .

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This just confirms what I've believed and done for years, close the fuel valve run it dry, and before it stalls pull the choke to suck the bowl clean.
    No storage issues!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you

    • @vincentrobinette1507
      @vincentrobinette1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's exactly what I do with my snow blower after winter, and my lawn mower just before I put it away for the season, and my generators, everytime I use them. The problem with the generators is I never know when I'll need them next, so I run the carburetors dry after every use. I sometimes pause a few minutes, pull the choke, and try to start them again. More often than not, they actually try to start, then run out, before they come up to speed, as it gets the fumes out of the float bowl, and clears the idle and main circuits of the carburetor, so there is no fuel to evaporate and leave gum or varnish, and especially, to avoid corrosion, and galvanization. You have a steel float bowl, and brass jets, and emulsion tubes, in an aluminum housing. Any conductive or electrolytic liquid(that includes alcohol) invites galvanization, which destroys carburetors, because of dissimilar metals. That's above and beyond the corrosion shown in the video, where there was just the aluminum housing samples used in this video.

    • @OlivierCaron
      @OlivierCaron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My generator will run for a good 2 minutes longer with the choke pulled, so that's a decent amount of gas that would be left in the line and carb. It's a good tip.

    • @mikecheeze4312
      @mikecheeze4312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good tip, thank you!

    • @mooglemy3813
      @mooglemy3813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Eddie Coyle why, drain the float bowl and that works every time. Long term storage drain the fuel tank and carb. Make sure they're dry completely. No fuel in it store in the garage not a shed. Place a piece of heavy plastic like a freezer bag under the gas cap and lock it down, this stops venting as temp changes. 1 other point pumped fuel is good for 30 days after that it looses some of its volatility due to outgassing and or venting through the filler cap or the carb vent.. Not as big an issue on a car or closed circuit fuel system. Fuel in the rail will go several years before its lost it's volatility. There is no need for ethanol to be added to fuel. Must be Monsanto at work growing GMO corn and ensuring that they have an undisputed profit. Keeps the the price of corn up.

  • @jaakkopontinen
    @jaakkopontinen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Awesome long-term test. I know you have other long-term projects going on, but do start even more of them!
    Big payout to be expected, this sort of slow-to-pay-off kinda content is rare and even more so with practical applications.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much!! Yes, several other long term tests underway. Looking forward to seeing the results!

  • @carneasada8
    @carneasada8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Project Farm I’m so glad and great full that you exist! You are the man!!

  • @Vid_Master
    @Vid_Master ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for all the hard work you put into these tests for our benefit

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @Reece634
    @Reece634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a long time viewer I have to say it's great to see how far your production quality has come. I think I speak for all of us when I say we appreciate how much work you put into these videos. Maybe a future video,.. Testing diesel fuel additives that are supposed to provide more lubrication to older injection pumps that are not designed to run on today's ultra low sulfur diesel. Thanks PF!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much!! I'll test diesel additives soon. Thanks again!

  • @mikek5804
    @mikek5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I am trying to imagine what else is currently this man brewing for us in his lab. Someone ages whisky, this man ages fuel cocktails. Very impressive!

  • @melvinlewallen7796
    @melvinlewallen7796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all the hard work and objective tryouts

  • @sirbondman007
    @sirbondman007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for clearing-up this issue. Most appreciated!

  • @brianhind6149
    @brianhind6149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sir! Great video as always with well documented results. Interestingly, I flew in an aircraft ( DeHavilland DHC-3 "OTTER" ) which used a Pratt & Whitney R1340 9 cylinder radial engine. We were flying a scientific mission in the Canadian High Arctic. We used 14000 gallons of aviation 80/87 & 130 octane that had sat in drums for 20 odd years (since 1946 & we used it in 1971). We drew random samples from the drums (55 gal. US) & sent them to EXXON labs in Edmonton for evaluation. Exxon labs supplied us a report that was exhaustive in its range of tests, & that in essence said the fuel was "just fine" . The only irregularity it noted was a slightly elevated tendency to form "gum or varnish" compared to newly manufactured fuel. We flew hundreds of hours on the fuel with absolutely no problems of a fuel related nature. The drums were situated on an "esker" (sort of a big sand dune), laid on their sides since placed there in 46 when the photo survey of the Arctic was being undertaken. Considering that the automotive "pump gas" we buy today is premium "lamp oil" compared to the auto fuel 40 years ago, I believe that aviation gasoline is formulated to a strict standard that does not change year to year. I am not a chemist or chemical engineer & I stand to be corrected on this point. I thought you might find the info interesting. Another "gold medal" video my friend !

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @kellyvcraig
      @kellyvcraig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many of us bought and old car or truck with fuel in it that had sat for several years and found it started fine, but that was "back in the day."

  • @shawngixxer
    @shawngixxer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love this channel, appreciate all the work you do help us all at home trying to figure things out

  • @buddyblack9801
    @buddyblack9801 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are amazing! Your research efforts are of a quality equal or better than many I have seen at a university level! Great job!

  • @johnosczakiewicz9740
    @johnosczakiewicz9740 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched this video ,again ! Its not boring at all !! I really like this video

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent information, you've changed the way that I will feed my small engines and even the big ones.

  • @NarySllim
    @NarySllim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the only channels that when I click the video I click like before even getting all of the way through it. It’s that damn good every single time.

  • @NordicDan
    @NordicDan ปีที่แล้ว

    A little less than a year ago I dropped the factory original fuel tank from my 1988 Toyota to change the pump (preventative maintenance. God knows how much longer the original still might've lasted as I not once ever ran it dry of fuel), and upon looking in the tank I didn't see a single speck of corrosion. I credit my near obsessive use of ethanol free fuel for this. Given the era the truck was manufactured, along with political reasons to do with corn subsidies pushed on American farmers, I refuse to use fuel containing any ethanol in my truck or any of my small engines.
    Good to see proof in your video that the mechanical aspect of my choice is spot on. I'm only surprised that I didn't happen upon this video before, given how long it's been since you posted it. Great work as always.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

  • @beardeddude9168
    @beardeddude9168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was an awesome experiment! I've seen the damage ethanol does more then once on carbs and this backs up what I've seen 110% tanks for the vid!

  • @harryhopkins7798
    @harryhopkins7798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! This was one of the most useful and informative test video's I have seen.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @colindoyle6149
    @colindoyle6149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this video (3 years later) E10 has recently flooded irelands petrol pumps and I was concerned for a vintage honda acty pickup with carb! now I’ll make it my business to use non ethanol in it since it’s not driven regularly! that carb in your video was an eye opener! So thanks again 🫡🇮🇪

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome!

  • @rym8976
    @rym8976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even know what else to say. All your videos are awesome. You are the man!

  • @noahmercy-mann4323
    @noahmercy-mann4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm a small engine mechanic and always recommend my customers use Top Tier ethanol-free from a station with a separate pump (or nozzle) for each grade to ensure they are only getting the no-alky stuff. I do also recommend a stabilizer, just because so many of them use big gas cans and the fuel may end up being in there for a full season.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @briteidea08
      @briteidea08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been running my small engines on high test. Start them every two to four months. Gas doesn't stay in the can. End of season gets used in my truck.

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@briteidea08 that's what I do and it's the smarter/cheaper/least wasteful method. I use 91 Shell V-Power in all of my small engines. Anything I don't use by the end of fall gets put into my car.

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @revenge69ful this is sort of true, in NY i can get 93 octane non ethanol from stewarts but that is another ~$.40 over regular. I only put the non ethanol high octane in my motorcycle, it needs a higher octane anyway. i think for cars that get used all year it probably doesn't matter, but if i had something sitting i would definitely put non ethanol in it.

    • @noahmercy-mann4323
      @noahmercy-mann4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @revenge69ful the average homeowner will use only a few gallons of gas in lawn equipment a year. Even if it is 50 gallons (big zero-turn mower and a couple acres), the difference in cost between cheapest and most expensive grades would be about $20. Even if the difference were 50 bucks, a carb job can run twice that, and paying someone to mow while the equipment is in the shop just adds more expense. A lot of my business comes from folks with the same attitude as yours...

  • @charredskeleton
    @charredskeleton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for making this video. My what a lot of work you put in!

  • @billconwell7460
    @billconwell7460 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sure hope he's being compensated well in some capacity for what he does.His approach is so well thought out, comprehensive and unbiased. Well done as I've come to take for granted. Bill Conwell

  • @lorinkramer5805
    @lorinkramer5805 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 50hp, Mercury outboard, 4 stroke was originally run on 87 with ethanol right from the pump by the original owner. He had not changed the fuel filter for 3 years. When I changed the fuel filter, there was a considerable amount of yellowish, very fine, almost pumice like material in the fuel filter. I have run non-alcohol, 92 for the past 4 years and the fuel filter looks like new every season.
    That’s proof enough for me. I use nothing but non-alcohol 92 in all small engines, outboards, etc.
    Thanks for your excellent video!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan9828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey you’re back with another test! Good!😁

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much!! Had to wait over 9 months for allowing the fuel to age on this one!

    • @amorphuc
      @amorphuc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectFarm Just amazing. Thank you for your detailed investigations.

    • @paulstan9828
      @paulstan9828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Project Farm Yeah I noticed that I was thinking this one was a long time in the making.

  • @swingtheB
    @swingtheB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for making these videos, they’re extremely helpful.

  • @GPMsEVproject
    @GPMsEVproject 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very relevant to us UK based folks as of Sept 2021 as our fuel at the pump changes to E10 and E5 (super) this month

  • @Poop-nu1so
    @Poop-nu1so ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such an excellent video, great job!!

  • @enduringpursuit
    @enduringpursuit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the awesome video!! I have been riding motocross my whole life. In my 30s now. When I was a kid we would use 6 month+ old fuel all the time in our bikes. Cleaning carbs was a snap. Now I ride a new fuel injected bike. If my gas (e10) goes over 2 months my bike suffers. 3 month old e10 stalled my bike on a trail once and I was unable to get it started again. I had to fully tear it apart to get the varnish out of the lines. And I had stabil fuel stabilizer in it too. Even the fuel stabilizer has a shelf life.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know much about motocross or dirt bikes, my man, but I hear their racing engines have higher compression today. Mayhaps that if you throw too much timing at it like they do (to get more power) the gas goes bad quicker. Especially with ethanol sucking water into it. Also the fuel tank material may matter (aluminum vs. plastic).

  • @jmd0322
    @jmd0322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely loved this one! Great work.

  • @SquidlyMcnerd
    @SquidlyMcnerd ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all your efforts in making this video. Very informative.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @MrTBoneMalone
    @MrTBoneMalone ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, and always good to have the visual effects of bad fuel for understanding.

  • @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413
    @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really awesome video, the corrosion on the parts was amazing. I always thought gasoline never went bad, loved the video. 👍👍👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the feedback

  • @bruceeverett5372
    @bruceeverett5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That video was fantastic, a lot of time and effort went into those 13 minutes! Thank you. I can't even imagine any reputable company would really think they have created a formula to stabilize E85, that's absurd. Plain and simple ethanol sucks (and I live in a cornfield!)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome!

    • @Random-rt5ec
      @Random-rt5ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Government mandated ethanol, government mandated experimental gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine.

  • @joecrabshack1380
    @joecrabshack1380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy watching your experiments and appreciate your non-biased results and opinions. We have several small engines and dirt bikes and have been plaques by ethanol damage to small carburetors. I would be very interested in seeing this experiment performed in the future with a variety of fuel stabilizers, hoping to find one that prevents phase separation or corrosion of aluminum parts.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @richardcrook6816
      @richardcrook6816 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use K100 in your gas to solve your ethanol corrosion problems. Also use premium fuel in your small engines with no ethanol.

  • @andyschad6882
    @andyschad6882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was told many years ago by a 2-cycle oil manufacturer executive that these oils are natural fuel stabilizers. Since then, I've been using a little 2-stroke synthetic Amsoil in my seasonal engines to keep the fuel fresh enough to carry over to the next season. This has worked very well in all cases; lawn mowers, boat and snowmobiles to be specific. Would be great to see a test of this method v. commercially available stabilizers, which appear to have limited benefit.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @mcwillda814
    @mcwillda814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love these tests that require so much time and patience! A year of waiting, wow!