Eh, Super Saiyan Rage accomplished more in the Goku Black Arc than Ultra Super Saiyan did in the Cell Arc to be fair. Wouldn't have been able to cut Zamasu without it.
Wow! Ultra Super Saiyan. Damn I feel old. This term used to be on a bunch of dragon ball fan sites that did power levels and on a few fan shrines for characters. Pretty sure the Pojo's Unofficial Dragon Ball Z guidebook called it ultra super saiyan too.
Hey Geekdom I am ABSOLUTELY LOVING this transformation series as I had so many doubts regarding the ascended Saiyan and super Saiyan 2 differences... Thanks a LOT Geekdom... YOU ARE AWESOME !!!
I remember Trunks fighting Cell and I was under the impression that his chances were better than Vegeta's (then again, its flaws outweighed the positives). In Super, I liked the way Trunks used the form as a diversion tactic on Vegeta. I've always refered it as Ultra Super Saiyan and if this form had to be used - the user would have put it into one big attack and then slim down.
But vegeta I find vegeta arrogant he let cell get the android and achieve his final form but vegeta got his butt kicked he got heart for all the smack he talk
I love USSJ/Grade 3. I generally like ideas of forms having a weakness. Same reason why I like SSJ3. Minus from x10 from SSJ (x500), I always imagined it being SSJ2 (x100) with just bad speed.
Ssj grade 3 being ssj2 but with bad speed doesn't make any sense since the guide books stated that ssj grade 4 is grade 3 but all the drawbacks are gone or that it may be stronger than it, so in my opinion grade 2 is 60× base, grade 3 is 80× base and (this is my opinion and it's definitely wrong)grade 4 is 75× times base since og ssj is 50× base and ssj2 is 100× base, I thought of it as an in between form
@@nnnmmmableSSJ3 DOES have a weakness. The stamina drain is too high, which makes it virtually impossible to master, and all in all, just a short power boost made so you can end the fight quickly when your opponent is distracted. Couple that with the fact that it takes longer to transform into it then Super Saiyan 2 or 1, and you have another weakness to add. And yes, I did say it’s virtually impossible to master because of the stamina drain. Remember when Goku was trying to gather his energy while Vegeta fought with Buu? He couldn’t even do that while in the form, he tried to, but couldn’t, he fell back to his base form. I’m willing to bet that if he was trying to do with SSJ3 what he did with SSJ1, while turning it into grade 4, he would not be able to do so, he’d fall out of the form after a few hours and be completely exhausted.
*Everyone going SSJ for the first time* *Goku* : Lost Best Friend, Piccolo almost died, Son was threatened by an evil space Monarch. *Vegeta* : Was so obsessed to surpass Kakarot after having his birthright seized, he would do anything to become the strongest. He performed his training under 300x Gravity. He fought off meteors putting himself the brink of death and the possibility of not making it back home. *Future Trunks* : Terrorized by evil androids who killed all his friends, threatened the Earth for many years, and after they killed Gohan it put him over the Edge. *Gohan* : Was tired of being a nuisance to others, never did anything major that helped others, therefore he was tired of being useless and powered up. *Goten and Kid Trunks* : SSJ Bargian. Most likely achieved from Goku and Vegeta's powerful Saiyan cells. *Cabba* : Planet was disrespected and threatened to become annihilated by Vegeta. *Broly* : A prodigy Saiyan who always had it in him, Through his anger for Prince Vegeta, who banished him and his father for ever, it was only a matter of time before he achieved it. *Kale and Caulifla* : TiNgLe iN yOuR bAck. *Everyone Else* : Are we a joke to you?!
That last one is a lot more complex than you're making it out to be. Caulifla's 1st transformation involved bypassing the anger trigger and directly tapping into the power of Super Saiyan as all Saiyans who've mastered the form do repeatedly. Kale, meanwhile, went into complete self-loathing and jealousy and transformed due to her own poor emotional control.
The physiology of this form is story breaking. Warriors who are strong enough to bust planets should have no trouble hauling around an extra few hundred pounds of meat
They also are physically capable of expanding hundred times their own size seemingly without losing much speed. Physiology in dbz is ridiculous. Saiyans HAVE to be incredibly dense and heavy as theres no way theyd be able to actually GAIN mass out of nowhere anyway.
U cant forget that the z fighters fight at supersinic speed. They are still fast, but they are draining stamina and ki fast, which slows them down just enough that theycant hit their targets
@@pcmld2267 facts. I didnt really pay attention to the supersonic speeds. In my opinion namek saga goku was ftl. Dbs goku is also infinite 3d and high 4th dimension
Judging by the Transformation Guide intro, I'm very intrigued and excited to see the other transformations you'll cover up soon when the Super Saiyan transformations explained are done.
I really enjoy this transformation guide series, its already been 3 years since following geekdom, and I enjoy this type of explanation content the most, I remember the ultra instinct guide, not sure if he released part 3 of it, but anyways, kudos to geekdom, now I wish there were endless transformations in dragon ball, so that this series would continue forever, so in short, i love this series, keep up the good work geekdom, love it
Geekdom your a life saver bro. I've been following financial and crypto shit all week on TH-cam. Saw this in my notification and I'm gonna binge some geekdom right now and it feels great
Ayo @Geekdom101 i appreciate these transformation guides. Its different than what evrybody does. Keep up the great work. Oh yeah the beat that plays at the end of your vids is Dope bro.
If speed was his problem, couldn't he just use ki blasts instead of physical attacks to destroy Cell? Use a powered up attack like how Gohan used a powered up Kamehameha maybe?
You need to be fast to actually hit someone with ki blasts, there's arm movements that come with it, and you need to set them up in a position where you can blast them.
maybetoby a Kamehameha coming from a super Saiyan 2 up to that point the super Saiyan 2 was the strongest power level until the buu saga and it wasn’t just a regular Kamehameha because cell had charged one to destroy the entire planet and took that impact plus gohans
MUI Goku far overpowered Full Power Jiren,once Jiren awakened a new level he only SLIGHTLY overpowered MUI Goku and got once again overpowered by fair amount after becoming enraged.The scene that this comment applies to is Kefla Bssj2 vs Goku Ultra Instinct Omen 2
For the record, Ssj grade 3 and legendary ssj have the same multiplier: times 75 The reason that legendary ssj has no speed problems is because it increases the users height proportionately to the muscle mass increase
Excellent videos, man. I really like the insight, and even though I’ve been a fan of dragon ball for over 10 years there’s still stuff that I have yet to know and watching this I always come out with something new👌🏼
When you said we never see the form again until caulifla used it in dragon ball super, that’s not entirely correct. Future Trunks used it briefly in the Future Trunks arc of dragon ball super when sparring against Vegeta. He switched between it and regular super saiyan to take advantage of its power, while relying on the speed of normal super saiyan.
I love future Trunks he’s been my number one fav character since he first beat down frieza back in the day. But I’m with you on that fight with cell. Its hard to think even if he got a speed up cells hax abilities on top of the power he had not shown till he fights ss2 gohan. I remember Goku saying he still had this much power hidden away. I think it was in the show. but i don’t remember if goku said it in the manga. But Great video Geekdom keep it up👍🏻. Im loving these transformation videos. I can’t wait for ss3 lol.
I was eagerly waiting for this episode. One of my favorite forms, trunks looked like he was going to eat cell. But 10 times multiplier is way too much.
not going to say anything about how trunk used grade 3 when he training with his father to Psych him into openly attack trunk but he then (i dont remeber if he went back to normal super saiyan or if he went super saiyan 2)
@@scottduncan5525, My bad, I diverged a bit from your original question. But yeah, in DBS Trunks temporarily uses the form to fool Vegeta into attacking him with his guard down, then reverts to SSJ2 to try and get a hit in.
@@zeronova1484 no problem and that's ok. I thought he did that, didn't know if it was SSj or SSj2. Surprised Geekdom didn't say anything on that because that was a pretty smart move on trunks
"What good is being strong if you cannot touch your opponent" reminds me of the Meruem vs Netero fight in HunterxHunter, although Meruem is able to eventually connect.
You have put Grade 2 & 3 in the same basket when describing a drop in speed but SS Grade 2 which Vegeta used against Semi-Perfect Cell did not have a speed sacrifice. It was a complete upgrade to SS Grade 1. The drop in speed is only experienced in the transformation from Grade 2 to Grade 3. Vegeta was able to hit Grade 3 but chose not to for this very reason.
Questions: What if Trunks in Super Saiyan Grade 3 (Ultra Super Saiyan) form entered the Gravitation Chamber and trained in increased gravity for 6 months. Would that increase his speed in the Ultra Super Saiyan form? Would he be more agile under such training? And finally, in your opinion, what level of gravitational forces in the Gravitation Chamber would be needed to optimize that form?
I always called it Legendary Super Saiyan, since it is so similar to what Z Broly had. Z Broly got away with it because his power was so high even with the loss of speed from the form he was still faster than Goku and Co.
Those transformation are awesome but they had weakness to them, barely have speed but will have good amount of strength,plus stamina gets drained fast.
Super Saiyan 1 is a 50x multiplier. In the TFS dub, Goku states that SSJG3 gives you a 50% power boost but drains your speed and mobility by 75%. Granted, it's TFS, but it seems reasonable. That would make it a 75x multiplier, in between SS1 and SS2.
If Trunks had the speed, there'd still be the energy consumption and stamina used by USSJ form. Also Cell can regenerate so an almost mortal blow doesnt do it (like Final Flash). Trunks could only win that with a huge portion of luck, putting in everything into a big blow and bait Cell into taking it to the face like Vegeta did.
GOSH DARN IT now I have to go back and watch the video he just said I have to watch to get a good in depth understanding about why more muscles aren’t good. excuse me for my harsh language
Unlikely. Cell would have recognized the threat this time and unleashed more of his dormant power, letting him completely no-sell Trunks' attack. Everyone seems to keep forgetting that Cell only fought Vegeta and Trunks at his standby powerlevel. He had huge, huge reserves in hiding.
So basically USSJ is basically an giant energy sponge and I never knew there's an super saiyan grade 4 I'm learning a lot stuff I never knew about these forms
You know it's weird that this particular form have speed issue's because of muscle mass but in the past, giant Piccolo, Nappa, Great Ape Vegeta, and even Broly don't have this issue at all.
I think you're confusing some things here. Nappa was just big. He wasn't skinny and then powered up to become huge. That was his normal form so he didn't suffer a speed loss. Grade 3 is like if you put on a weighted vest and then tried to jump/run/move like you normally do. You would burn up a lot more energy than you're otherwise used to. And the Great Ape form increased in size and strength, so it kind of evened out there. Also Broly's LSSJ was a genetic form. So while it looked similar to Grade 3, it functioned a lot different. LSSJ doesn't suffer from a drop in speed, burn up stamina, and he also became vastly taller. In the movie he outsped all of the Z Fighters and, depending on the dub, said that his ki was "overflowing." If he didn't turn into a berserker and had proper martial arts skills, Broly would have easily destroyed the Z Fighters
Not really comparing apples to apples. This form placed emphasis on physical strength and energy output at the expense of your stamina and speed. Buff boi Nappa is in his base form. Giant piccolo is a giant version of his base form and great ape is a radical transformation. The giant transformations increase bone length, organ size.....everything! SSJ grades 1 and 2 increase muscles on the existing frame only. Big difference.
Not trying to rag on yall, but where exactly did you guys get this information regarding Giant characters and already buff characters can just naturally be fast? It seems more like head-cannon than anything.
JJDude it’s not head canon, just logical reasoning. If someone hit you with a ray gun that made you giant would you expect to be slow as molasses just because you are bigger? Or did everything about you increase in proportion including the cells that make up your body? So logically we can say giant forms shouldn’t limit your speed. Although as a giant hitting a smaller opponent has its own challenges. Example: I can move my arms faster than a house fly but hitting it is difficult. Giant forms have drawbacks too.
I've always called it Ultra Super Saiyan (USSJ). Vegeta and Trunks go nutz...but I thought it was most interesting when Goku and Gohan were training in the Room of Spirit and Time while Goku was wearing the trademark Saiyan Armor...i love so much (which Vegeta still wears as ceremonal combat outfit...not so much as functional armor...cause he hasn't needed that in a llllooooonnnngggg time....) in my personal version of Bid For Power Q3arena mod...with my entire overwork many years ago... i utilized a cool 3d model bulking out as a cool shader effect...that allowed me to place USSJ to Vegeta...Trunks...and even Goku even made a converted skin with him wearing the saiyan armor... aghhh man... i spent years working on it compling roughly 200+ skins with every concievable transformation at the time...including that silver ssj4 (which they called ssj5 at the time)....if anyone is interested...id be happy to put out an unpolished version of that...it was insanley cool for its time...but after xenoverse and jump force...and my boi Emund who made his unreal 4 dbz game recently...my version looks like atari in comparison... ...but that WAS years ago... my version was still aesthetically really cool...
It would be pretty cool "Mastering" this form . Like mastering Ki control and overall movement , I always thought bulking up so damn fast and your body having to adjust to such a drastic change of the body. Perhaps keeping the form and staying in it like the mastered super saiyan form, will preform better speed wise
I believe vegeta couldve went ultra himself..but he realized the the negative affects of it. Just like goku did..im sure if trunks wouldve trained with vegeta in the room or spirit & time vegeta wouldve pointed this out to him.
The Dragon Ball Z movies (Including most of the ones that feature Non-Canon Broly) don't count because they are considered non-canon. And speaking of Broly, he is a canon DBS-exclusive character.
This form while trunks was powering up, in that scene trunks looked so different and cell with his new power at the time oh god. But this form made that same fight different as well. " I'LL SHOW YOU THE TRUE POWER OF A SAIYAN"
Trunks always getting these cool ass forms that make no difference to the overall story.
Eh, Super Saiyan Rage accomplished more in the Goku Black Arc than Ultra Super Saiyan did in the Cell Arc to be fair. Wouldn't have been able to cut Zamasu without it.
@@denniswilliams6519 no it’s just spirit bomb absorbed plus ssj rage normal ssj rage would not do that
He's Vegeta's son; what do you expect?
YOU are the guy to talk bout that: goku black in "person"! :D
True Trunks needs some love
Cell is a cool guy for teaching trunks about his mistakes despite killing him after
"Now Geekdom cult, open up our mangas to chapter 386, panel 14..." *Congregation opens manga in unison* Lol
I laughed at this more than I should've
Lol yes
Lmaoo
In the name of the great Kamehameha, Amen!
Amen and amen ON BEERUS
Wow! Ultra Super Saiyan. Damn I feel old. This term used to be on a bunch of dragon ball fan sites that did power levels and on a few fan shrines for characters. Pretty sure the Pojo's Unofficial Dragon Ball Z guidebook called it ultra super saiyan too.
Hey Geekdom I am ABSOLUTELY LOVING this transformation series as I had so many doubts regarding the ascended Saiyan and super Saiyan 2 differences... Thanks a LOT Geekdom... YOU ARE AWESOME !!!
I remember Trunks fighting Cell and I was under the impression that his chances were better than Vegeta's (then again, its flaws outweighed the positives). In Super, I liked the way Trunks used the form as a diversion tactic on Vegeta.
I've always refered it as Ultra Super Saiyan and if this form had to be used - the user would have put it into one big attack and then slim down.
Yeah i never understood why they didnt just use it during beam struggles when they are standing still
Oh so like how in the manga goku used ssjg against hit and then when he was about to get a good blast on hit he used blue
Couldn't trunks had gon on defense in that form or it would have been the same length
But vegeta I find vegeta arrogant he let cell get the android and achieve his final form but vegeta got his butt kicked he got heart for all the smack he talk
The Form does look unique and Cool but Yes, I AGREE it drains your SPEED, STAMINA, AGILITY, ACCELERATION, etc.
But Gohan mastered it. Trunks said, "He did it!"
@@ShortymayShortymay u stupid
@@tomasjolin2298 why would you say that, stupid?
Thats what happens when every atom in your body weighs twice as much as the solar system
@@ShortymayShortymay trunks was talking about ssj2 which is what Gohan was using to overpower perfect cell
I love USSJ/Grade 3. I generally like ideas of forms having a weakness. Same reason why I like SSJ3.
Minus from x10 from SSJ (x500), I always imagined it being SSJ2 (x100) with just bad speed.
SSJ3 doesn't have a weakness though, Goku didn't fully master it in the buu saga, that's why there was caveats for the transformation.
Might Strip Guy SSJ3 drains your stamina as well
Ssj grade 3 being ssj2 but with bad speed doesn't make any sense since the guide books stated that ssj grade 4 is grade 3 but all the drawbacks are gone or that it may be stronger than it, so in my opinion grade 2 is 60× base, grade 3 is 80× base and (this is my opinion and it's definitely wrong)grade 4 is 75× times base since og ssj is 50× base and ssj2 is 100× base, I thought of it as an in between form
@@nnnmmmableSSJ3 DOES have a weakness. The stamina drain is too high, which makes it virtually impossible to master, and all in all, just a short power boost made so you can end the fight quickly when your opponent is distracted. Couple that with the fact that it takes longer to transform into it then Super Saiyan 2 or 1, and you have another weakness to add.
And yes, I did say it’s virtually impossible to master because of the stamina drain. Remember when Goku was trying to gather his energy while Vegeta fought with Buu? He couldn’t even do that while in the form, he tried to, but couldn’t, he fell back to his base form. I’m willing to bet that if he was trying to do with SSJ3 what he did with SSJ1, while turning it into grade 4, he would not be able to do so, he’d fall out of the form after a few hours and be completely exhausted.
I like to believe that OG Broly had a limitless/perfected version of Grade 3 SSJ.
*Everyone going SSJ for the first time*
*Goku* : Lost Best Friend, Piccolo almost died, Son was threatened by an evil space Monarch.
*Vegeta* : Was so obsessed to surpass Kakarot after having his birthright seized, he would do anything to become the strongest. He performed his training under 300x Gravity. He fought off meteors putting himself the brink of death and the possibility of not making it back home.
*Future Trunks* : Terrorized by evil androids who killed all his friends, threatened the Earth for many years, and after they killed Gohan it put him over the Edge.
*Gohan* : Was tired of being a nuisance to others, never did anything major that helped others, therefore he was tired of being useless and powered up.
*Goten and Kid Trunks* : SSJ Bargian. Most likely achieved from Goku and Vegeta's powerful Saiyan cells.
*Cabba* : Planet was disrespected and threatened to become annihilated by Vegeta.
*Broly* : A prodigy Saiyan who always had it in him, Through his anger for Prince Vegeta, who banished him and his father for ever, it was only a matter of time before he achieved it.
*Kale and Caulifla* : TiNgLe iN yOuR bAck.
*Everyone Else* : Are we a joke to you?!
Note: Only Caulifla achieved SSJ through tingly feeling, Kale didn't.
That last one is a lot more complex than you're making it out to be. Caulifla's 1st transformation involved bypassing the anger trigger and directly tapping into the power of Super Saiyan as all Saiyans who've mastered the form do repeatedly.
Kale, meanwhile, went into complete self-loathing and jealousy and transformed due to her own poor emotional control.
Bulla: Super Saiyan God because of Vegeta's power
Kale achieved hers by going semi-yandere.
You're a joke.
The physiology of this form is story breaking. Warriors who are strong enough to bust planets should have no trouble hauling around an extra few hundred pounds of meat
They also are physically capable of expanding hundred times their own size seemingly without losing much speed. Physiology in dbz is ridiculous. Saiyans HAVE to be incredibly dense and heavy as theres no way theyd be able to actually GAIN mass out of nowhere anyway.
U cant forget that the z fighters fight at supersinic speed. They are still fast, but they are draining stamina and ki fast, which slows them down just enough that theycant hit their targets
@noobdrawsz a
Try massively faster than light speeds.
It's an issue with streamlining and energy consumption. The big muscles make it harder to move not that you're actually too heavy too move.
@@pcmld2267 facts. I didnt really pay attention to the supersonic speeds. In my opinion namek saga goku was ftl. Dbs goku is also infinite 3d and high 4th dimension
Judging by the Transformation Guide intro, I'm very intrigued and excited to see the other transformations you'll cover up soon when the Super Saiyan transformations explained are done.
I really enjoy this transformation guide series, its already been 3 years since following geekdom, and I enjoy this type of explanation content the most, I remember the ultra instinct guide, not sure if he released part 3 of it, but anyways, kudos to geekdom, now I wish there were endless transformations in dragon ball, so that this series would continue forever, so in short, i love this series, keep up the good work geekdom, love it
my fav character :D Cell. always picked him on DBZ games; and teen gohan ss2 lol.
Lol this arc is what inspired my weight lifting journey
I wish an anime made me get up my ass to train at the gym....im too lazy
@@Marc_0v0 if u don't train u won't be able to go ssj
Hell yeah
Yes I was waiting so long I might even go ultra super sayain myself!!!!!
Geekdom your a life saver bro. I've been following financial and crypto shit all week on TH-cam. Saw this in my notification and I'm gonna binge some geekdom right now and it feels great
haha ditto!
Ayo @Geekdom101 i appreciate these transformation guides. Its different than what evrybody does. Keep up the great work. Oh yeah the beat that plays at the end of your vids is Dope bro.
Has to be my favourite form. Nice video man, love this new series
I feel like the vanishing pupils represents rage
If speed was his problem, couldn't he just use ki blasts instead of physical attacks to destroy Cell? Use a powered up attack like how Gohan used a powered up Kamehameha maybe?
You need to be fast to actually hit someone with ki blasts, there's arm movements that come with it, and you need to set them up in a position where you can blast them.
maybetoby ki blasts can be easily reflected by powerful foes
@@xHaloxReviewerx117x except Cell was destroyed by a Kamehameha
maybetoby a Kamehameha coming from a super Saiyan 2 up to that point the super Saiyan 2 was the strongest power level until the buu saga and it wasn’t just a regular Kamehameha because cell had charged one to destroy the entire planet and took that impact plus gohans
@@xHaloxReviewerx117x fair enough
"What good is being strong if u cannot touch your opponent"
Literally MUI Goku vs Jiren 😂
MUI Goku far overpowered Full Power Jiren,once Jiren awakened a new level he only SLIGHTLY overpowered MUI Goku and got once again overpowered by fair amount after becoming enraged.The scene that this comment applies to is Kefla Bssj2 vs Goku Ultra Instinct Omen 2
Glad you’re doing these series and I can’t wait for a mystic Gohan episode because I still don’t understand anything about that form till this day
The unique difference between this powered up and Broly was that Broly kept his stamina while still in that bulked up form! It’s awesome
“Future Trunks lays down the gauntlet and challenges him to a round of Mortal Kombat - not the game” 😂 just imagine!
Trunks: Father, this new form has me dummy thicc and claps from my ass cheeks keep alerting cell when and where I'm going to attack next. Please help!
WTF lol
Love you're work man. Got you have the true HD passion for DB!!!
Technically if this form is called ultra super saiyan by the fandom then why is grade 2 not called super super saiyan
Geekdom, your videos are incredible; completely reasonable.... I love them!
For the record, Ssj grade 3 and legendary ssj have the same multiplier: times 75
The reason that legendary ssj has no speed problems is because it increases the users height proportionately to the muscle mass increase
I swear you already made videos explaining the different grades but whatevs I'm still watching
Excellent videos, man. I really like the insight, and even though I’ve been a fan of dragon ball for over 10 years there’s still stuff that I have yet to know and watching this I always come out with something new👌🏼
From what I've counted Geekdom has about 6 more Super Saiyan transformations to get to.
7 if you include blue Kaio-ken
Can’t wait for the next one, man! Thank u.
Amazing video mate!
One of my wishes granted. Waiting for Buff Buu form next.
"So if we open up our manga..." Bro I felt like I was in church and you're talking about the Bible LOL
Mistare Fusion just covered this part of the manga too so my month is made. Lit.
Can't wait til SSJ2 tho, its one of those forms that although not as strong as SSJ3 has the consistency to be seen more than its supposed predecessor
Bro dont let this distract you from the fact that geekdom is thicc af
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When you said we never see the form again until caulifla used it in dragon ball super, that’s not entirely correct. Future Trunks used it briefly in the Future Trunks arc of dragon ball super when sparring against Vegeta. He switched between it and regular super saiyan to take advantage of its power, while relying on the speed of normal super saiyan.
I love future Trunks he’s been my number one fav character since he first beat down frieza back in the day. But I’m with you on that fight with cell. Its hard to think even if he got a speed up cells hax abilities on top of the power he had not shown till he fights ss2 gohan. I remember Goku saying he still had this much power hidden away. I think it was in the show. but i don’t remember if goku said it in the manga. But Great video Geekdom keep it up👍🏻. Im loving these transformation videos. I can’t wait for ss3 lol.
When I first saw this I honestly thought Trunks was gonna body cell like it was nothing. They made him look so cool and jacked. 😂
Good Explanation Video Really Enjoyed how you Described The Downside of The Form :)
I was eagerly waiting for this episode.
One of my favorite forms, trunks looked like he was going to eat cell.
But 10 times multiplier is way too much.
This was one of the best power up sequences
It maybe be bad when it comes to battle, but man does it look cool!
But Gohan mastered it
@•Lewis Bakare• so when Trunks said," He did it." What did he mean? Because Trunks did say it.
@@ShortymayShortymay ssj2
@@bigfundamental1096 ok thanks
Dragonball Super return to tv announcement coming May 9th
"the trunks exclusive form"
goku at the time chamber: am i a joke to you?
not going to say anything about how trunk used grade 3 when he training with his father to Psych him into openly attack trunk but he then (i dont remeber if he went back to normal super saiyan or if he went super saiyan 2)
That scene was ripped straight from DBM. It makes more sense in that context too because he didn't _have_ Super Saiyan 2 available.
@@zeronova1484 what do u mean DBM and really I thought Trunks got super s aiyan 2, that how he killed babbadie and stop buu from returning
@@scottduncan5525,
My bad, I diverged a bit from your original question. But yeah, in DBS Trunks temporarily uses the form to fool Vegeta into attacking him with his guard down, then reverts to SSJ2 to try and get a hit in.
@@zeronova1484 no problem and that's ok. I thought he did that, didn't know if it was SSj or SSj2. Surprised Geekdom didn't say anything on that because that was a pretty smart move on trunks
"What good is being strong if you cannot touch your opponent" reminds me of the Meruem vs Netero fight in HunterxHunter, although Meruem is able to eventually connect.
Another great transformation guide cant wait for the next.
I am really loving this series keep it up
You have put Grade 2 & 3 in the same basket when describing a drop in speed but SS Grade 2 which Vegeta used against Semi-Perfect Cell did not have a speed sacrifice. It was a complete upgrade to SS Grade 1. The drop in speed is only experienced in the transformation from Grade 2 to Grade 3. Vegeta was able to hit Grade 3 but chose not to for this very reason.
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That boy geekdom be dropping knowledge keep it up bro
Goku said this to Gohan when he first tapped into this power and the hyperbolic Time chamber
SUPER Saiyan Grade 3: *_The THICC FORM_*
(Looking at you Caulifa 👀)
That being said geekdom do you think if Vegeta and trunks teaming up or Gohan and Goku teaming up could defeat cell
Loving this series.
I wonder if some of the defects could have been minimized if there had been thorough training in this form
This form actually could be useful in a projectile clash type battle
Awesome video Geekdoom101 I've been really busy which is why I'm late on the comment but I still seen the video awesome video.
Questions:
What if Trunks in Super Saiyan Grade 3 (Ultra Super Saiyan) form entered the Gravitation Chamber and trained in increased gravity for 6 months. Would that increase his speed in the Ultra Super Saiyan form? Would he be more agile under such training? And finally, in your opinion, what level of gravitational forces in the Gravitation Chamber would be needed to optimize that form?
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Actually lssj is propably a form even beyond ultra saiyan
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Oh man I've been waiting for this video for a while well pretty much since the grade 2 video haha
I always called it Legendary Super Saiyan, since it is so similar to what Z Broly had. Z Broly got away with it because his power was so high even with the loss of speed from the form he was still faster than Goku and Co.
U the goat as far as dbz explaining 💪🏾
Can you explain full goku 4 saiyan ultra power next please?
Yes, full Goku 4 Saiyan ultra power is the best form
Great explanation of the form and the character of trunks reasons for not understanding the forms weaknesses. Keep it up Geekdom 👍
Those transformation are awesome but they had weakness to them, barely have speed but will have good amount of strength,plus stamina gets drained fast.
It’s like the fight Canelo Alvarez vs Maywhether 😅
Hey geekdom, very good video btw
Ultra super saiyan/ super saiyan grade 3 very powerful but so so so so so slow lol
But Gohan mastered it. Remember Trunks said about Gohan, " He did it!
Loved vetega super form. I missed the shit out of it.
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Super Saiyan 1 is a 50x multiplier. In the TFS dub, Goku states that SSJG3 gives you a 50% power boost but drains your speed and mobility by 75%. Granted, it's TFS, but it seems reasonable. That would make it a 75x multiplier, in between SS1 and SS2.
And the words of dbza Goku: although you see a 50% increase in power you see a 75% decrease in speed and Mobility
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If Trunks had the speed, there'd still be the energy consumption and stamina used by USSJ form. Also Cell can regenerate so an almost mortal blow doesnt do it (like Final Flash). Trunks could only win that with a huge portion of luck, putting in everything into a big blow and bait Cell into taking it to the face like Vegeta did.
Can we all agree that Trunks looked pretty badass with the hair like that all spiked crazy
Cant wait for the next video!!! Grade 4!!!!!!
Hey I have a question for you geekdom101. Is it possible to train super saiyan grade 2 and 3 to a point where they can get rid of the speed handicap?
GOSH DARN IT now I have to go back and watch the video he just said I have to watch to get a good in depth understanding about why more muscles aren’t good. excuse me for my harsh language
I watched it I’m ready now bro
A powered masenko from Ultra Trunks would've obliterated Cell, in a similar scenario as Vegeta with his final flash.
Unlikely. Cell would have recognized the threat this time and unleashed more of his dormant power, letting him completely no-sell Trunks' attack.
Everyone seems to keep forgetting that Cell only fought Vegeta and Trunks at his standby powerlevel. He had huge, huge reserves in hiding.
So basically USSJ is basically an giant energy sponge and I never knew there's an super saiyan grade 4 I'm learning a lot stuff I never knew about these forms
You know it's weird that this particular form have speed issue's because of muscle mass but in the past, giant Piccolo, Nappa, Great Ape Vegeta, and even Broly don't have this issue at all.
I think you're confusing some things here. Nappa was just big. He wasn't skinny and then powered up to become huge. That was his normal form so he didn't suffer a speed loss. Grade 3 is like if you put on a weighted vest and then tried to jump/run/move like you normally do. You would burn up a lot more energy than you're otherwise used to. And the Great Ape form increased in size and strength, so it kind of evened out there.
Also Broly's LSSJ was a genetic form. So while it looked similar to Grade 3, it functioned a lot different. LSSJ doesn't suffer from a drop in speed, burn up stamina, and he also became vastly taller. In the movie he outsped all of the Z Fighters and, depending on the dub, said that his ki was "overflowing." If he didn't turn into a berserker and had proper martial arts skills, Broly would have easily destroyed the Z Fighters
Not really comparing apples to apples. This form placed emphasis on physical strength and energy output at the expense of your stamina and speed. Buff boi Nappa is in his base form. Giant piccolo is a giant version of his base form and great ape is a radical transformation. The giant transformations increase bone length, organ size.....everything! SSJ grades 1 and 2 increase muscles on the existing frame only. Big difference.
@@R.E.factor Exactly. A much more concise version of what I tried to say
Not trying to rag on yall, but where exactly did you guys get this information regarding Giant characters and already buff characters can just naturally be fast? It seems more like head-cannon than anything.
JJDude it’s not head canon, just logical reasoning. If someone hit you with a ray gun that made you giant would you expect to be slow as molasses just because you are bigger? Or did everything about you increase in proportion including the cells that make up your body? So logically we can say giant forms shouldn’t limit your speed. Although as a giant hitting a smaller opponent has its own challenges. Example: I can move my arms faster than a house fly but hitting it is difficult. Giant forms have drawbacks too.
Can't wait for the next one!
Funny thing about this form and broly in the older games, the character models were so massive you would punch them and they wouldnt even move
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I've always called it Ultra Super Saiyan (USSJ).
Vegeta and Trunks go nutz...but I thought it was most interesting when Goku and Gohan were training in the Room of Spirit and Time while Goku was wearing the trademark Saiyan Armor...i love so much (which Vegeta still wears as ceremonal combat outfit...not so much as functional armor...cause he hasn't needed that in a llllooooonnnngggg time....)
in my personal version of Bid For Power Q3arena mod...with my entire overwork many years ago... i utilized a cool 3d model bulking out as a cool shader effect...that allowed me to place USSJ to Vegeta...Trunks...and even Goku even made a converted skin with him wearing the saiyan armor...
aghhh man... i spent years working on it compling roughly 200+ skins with every concievable transformation at the time...including that silver ssj4 (which they called ssj5 at the time)....if anyone is interested...id be happy to put out an unpolished version of that...it was insanley cool for its time...but after xenoverse and jump force...and my boi Emund who made his unreal 4 dbz game recently...my version looks like atari in comparison...
...but that WAS years ago...
my version was still aesthetically really cool...
Can you imagine how huge Nappa would be if he achieved this form?
"El Error de Trunks" just made me bust out laughing....I couldn't help myself
It would be pretty cool "Mastering" this form . Like mastering Ki control and overall movement , I always thought bulking up so damn fast and your body having to adjust to such a drastic change of the body. Perhaps keeping the form and staying in it like the mastered super saiyan form, will preform better speed wise
I believe vegeta couldve went ultra himself..but he realized the the negative affects of it. Just like goku did..im sure if trunks wouldve trained with vegeta in the room or spirit & time vegeta wouldve pointed this out to him.
Just a note: The name of the Spanish guide translates to "The Legendary Manga" (El Manga Legendario)
The Dragon Ball Z movies (Including most of the ones that feature Non-Canon Broly) don't count because they are considered non-canon. And speaking of Broly, he is a canon DBS-exclusive character.
Love this kind of vids!
This form while trunks was powering up, in that scene trunks looked so different and cell with his new power at the time oh god. But this form made that same fight different as well. " I'LL SHOW YOU THE TRUE POWER OF A SAIYAN"
I loved this form as a kid 💪🏿