I don’t mean to convey any disrespect, but you are absolutely Wrong, if your are comparing this parallel twin to 600 inline 4 supersport class sport bikes, completely apples and oranges. Just by saying that alone, tells me you lack serious knowledge concerning sport bikes. You keep talking about your R3, it also sounds like that is your primary experience and base of knowledge. You are clearly not qualified to give any clickbait ‘hates’ regarding a moto, if youve never even owned a real supersport or superbike.
Shows how different people are. Here's my thoughts v yours: 1. I love the exhaust (even stock I like it) as it really sets it apart from everything else and just sounds hot with a decent exhaust. 2. Power is perfect for size, weight and price. Cannot compare bikes with similar CC because it doesn't always work that way. 3. Shifter is okay but you might need to adjust yours to suit your foot. Bonus. Seat is actually quite nice compared to some of the real super sports I've owned. Everything can be more comfy though. 4. Lack of modes and tech is, for some people, a big selling point. I shy'd away from the RS660 because of alllll the tech. I want to go for a ride, not program my flight mode 5. The headlight is my favourite part of the bike. It just looks so hot! The whole design is killer and there's no stupid massive headlight that looks gross. It's all sleek and sexy. Happy riding bro!
That bike literally has the ugliest front end that’s made right now , that and the zx10r have the weirdest looking headlights . Way to futuristic at this point . Also it’s so slim . Too slim . Another problem with Yamaha is the shifting . Don’t know what their problem is but they always have problems with false neutrals and not smooth shifting . That’s why I have stayed away from Yamaha with really sucks bc I really use to love their bikes . If they were going to just through on some fairings on an mto7 they could have made a headlight that isn’t so ugly . It’s terrible
I have to disagree on the the exhaust noise. The R7 CP2 engine sounds phenomenal with a full system. Buddy of mine has a full Akra on his MT07 and it sounds incredible. Definitely not your typical sport bike exhaust note, but it sounds so deep and mean!
Agreed. The reason I am drawn to the R7 over a ZX6R is for the deep mean grunt. If you would prefer an inline 4 sound you should probably just get a ZX6R
I dont like the sound of R7 , the sound fits for MT07 as a naked bike. CP2 is just a lousy copycat soubd of a V4 engine. Try to listen to Honda RSV the one they are using in Pro Racing those are the real deal not the CP 2 cylinder. Crossplane is good in 4 cylinder bikes like R1.
Compared to the Ninja 650 I had, the Crossplane engines sound awesome lol. I would have absolutely opted for a R7 if they were out when I purchased my 650.
Yoshimura r77 sounds good too. I like how it has the low grunt in low RPM and sounds like a sports bike in high RPM. Then again I don't like the whining crying sound like it's begging to be put down lol.
I upgraded to a GSXR 600 and it’s pretty comfortable and has the power you’re looking for. The suspension and brakes are premium too. Great bike. Test ride one.
I gotta hand it to you for riding in the winter man! I live in upstate Rochester NY and anything under 50 degrees is to cold for me to ride. With that said I love watching your videos especially because I don’t want to ride because it’s to cold lol. Keep them coming your content is great!
I really like the looks of this bike but I had the MT-07 and it just wasn’t enough coming from the 600cc class. Now it was way more comfortable though, I can definitely say that.
As an older rider 57yrs who road Supersport bikes in the 80's and 90's the lack of modes and assistants like traction control etc. is something I like. I am enjoying the R7 but I can see how a younger rider might want more but for me with a few mods like full race pipe and Yoshimura airbox adding a supposed 10-12hp the bike is in the sweet spot keeping me from getting too stupid (can't let that dumb 20yr old hiding inside me rear his ugly head LOL🤣😂).. Stay upright my young friend have fun. 🤘😎🏍
You're inspiring sir! I hope I'll be riding motorcycles in my 50s and still having fun worried about acting too irresponsible if i get a bigger bike haha Keep doing it and ride safe💙
I upgraded from a 2015 Yamaha R3 to a 2014 Yamaha MT07 and I have the exact same shifter throw issue, I occasionally shift into neutral when trying to get into 2nd gear, especially when trying to shift quickly and not REALLY putting force into it. I reckon it's the design of the gear lever or gearbox of the MT07 and R7. A few times I have also hit false neutrals from 4th to 5th. I'm not sure if it is adjustable but I have fairly small feet (size 10) so it might be that I dunno. Either way, the CP2 engine is INTOXICATING, the torque and the sound makes all the faults of the MT07 fall away every time I ride. My opinion on the R7 is I don't feel a mid-power twin fits the supersport ergos and style, similar to what you said, something more revvy suits that style like the 180-degree crank of the R3 or something like the high revving inline-4 of the R6. The CP2 engine is great but it falls flat in the high revs and honestly it's top speed isn't that far off from the R3.
Adjust your shifter and shift linkage for your foot/boot. You may need to lower the angle a few degrees. Just don't lower it enough to make it a contact point on lean. Don't cover or turn off your headlamp, that's a safety/visibility issue.
I have a Ninja 400 already and I now also got an R7.... I love that both these bikes don't have the power of a 4 cylinder 600, or even a RS660.... I love that the R7 is a mini torque beast and I love the grunty/different sound. I love that it's a bit of an underdog that is better suited for the road in terms of its power profile... and I can get on with developing better riding skills without being just another no brains hot head kid on a 600 that gofast in a straight line..I have been on bigger, faster bikes and it gets old quick (looking at you GSX 750R and older FZR 750 and 1000 Genesis). For me what you hate are some of the biggest selling points plus also feel the value is spot on. Nothing beats the reliability of a Yamaha! I feel one really needs to appreciate the maturity it took for Yamaha to create something different. The Ninja 400 also punches way above its weight in the right hands, with a couple mods I easily show up riders on bigger bikes and they respect the hell out of me and the Ninja 400 once we been for ride together.
Do you think it's necessary to start on a 250-400, or something like an r7 or ninja 650 would be an acceptable first bike? (Assuming one is responsible with it)
@@basharsaleh1755 I mean if we were all honest about our actual skills a Ninja 400 would be fine for 90% of riders. The big thing that makes it more acceptable for a beginner is the weight being lower than a R7 or Ninja 650. It also has a very friendly seating position and low seat height. I would even argue that a Ninja 400 is more fun than a Ninja 650 for anyone just based on weight alone (R7 different being a bit more powerful carries the extra weight a bit better IMHO). However the ninja 400 stands apart from everything else below it, I feel that a 250-300 (including a Yamaha R3) can be outgrown pretty quickly, Ninja 400 hits a sweet spot for being beginner friendly and still challenging enough to keep more experienced riders entertained. Ninja 400 is like Labrador puppy with a stick, it is friendly, energetic and fun.That being said, if the new rider is over 6ft tall I might push them to look at a CBR500R as it is quite a bit more spacious even though Ninja 400 has a small edge over it on performance (again most due to bit of extra weight).
@@101BadBreath pretty interesting, yeah when i first heard about the 400 i was like ok 400 not too low compared to 250 or 300 i thought those were too low But i have 2 main concerns 1. I don't wanna have to be revving it to cruise at 70 or 80 mph on the highway, so I'm not trying to get a bike slower than my car 2. How fast would i outgrow it, so how long did you have the 400 before you decided to upgrade to an r7
@@basharsaleh1755 1. Ninja 400 will hit 118-120 mph in the right conditions. It's sweet spot for cruising on highway is 65-78 mph without screaming... over 80+ it does start to scream a bit. One could change the sprockets to lengthen gears slightly but did a 2000 mile tour from South Eastern England to up and around Northern Scotland and back... Doing up to 7 hrs on highways some days and decided it didn't need it. Highways are not a problem. I find it pulls strongly till about 108 mph and from there it's a bit pedestrian to get to top speed .. but I hardly ever do over 90. 2. I haven't outgrown mine, I have had it two years... I ride my R7 and sometimes wish I was on the Ninja 400... It's more forgiving, more comfortable and I can learn a lot more from it still... I don't plan to sell it... It's just too much fun. The reason why I have two bikes is because I live between two countries, ninja 400 in UK and R7 is in North Carolina, and Yamaha and Kawasaki are my top two brands with Triumph in third. I have been riding bikes from 1987... ridden many bikes big and small... I am am an average 5ft 9 inch tall and a stocky 185-190 pound 48 year old. What the new ninja does need is an end can as the stock is huge and it will annoy the back of your foot (I have Scorpion Carbon it sounds great), a tail tidy, other extras I have is a smoked touring windscreen and adjustable leavers but those two not necessary. Ps my third bike will be a Z900RS...
@@101BadBreath alright man thanks a lot, the info is really helpful i really appreciate it Also it's nice you're 48 and still interested in this stuff i hope I'll be riding throughout my 50s, I'm still 21 though so hopefully bikes don't become boring by then
I HATE commenting this but the r6 being a middle weight bike is true but the r7 is not in the class of 600's its in the realm of the Aprilia rs660 which is also a TWIN btw..... TWINS CUP (they dont race together....)
Guess what dude, if Yamaha developed a new chassis and engine for the R7 then it would easily be north of 10k. They updated everything on the R7 from the mt07 platform. They made minor tweaks to the engine, updated chassis, brakes, and suspension. Excellent aerodynamics and good tires. All for 9k. Don't need all that electronic junk on this bike. It's a great sport bike for the street and a great tool for the track.
i do agree with you about how R7 sound it's really not that feeling of R6, it's sounds like a naked bike which is ok with MT07 but its R7 come on bro..they really screwed it up, TOCE is good, SC project moto gp full system and there is another one i am checking it's called n-one project exhaust..
Ya man they have the same engine so you can’t really compare the sound of it when it’s just the same engine. It’s just a full fairing MT07 but in sports bike fairing. I disagree with everything lol. Dude it’s not made to go stupid fast. It’s made to be best of both worlds, I’d like to say it’s more track oriented. It’s not fast nor it’s slow it’s just right. The right amount of power and it’s not slow like a r3…
the problem with what he is talking about hp is that its a twin 650 class not an inline 4 600 class like look at the ninja 400 and zx4rr same cc one produces way more hp than the other one but the one with less cylinders beat the one with more hp because you get all the power way earlyer than most he is comparing an f1 car to a nascar they don't do the same type of thing and are built compleatly diferently the closest thing with the r7 and other super sports is how they look cus a 600cc class sport bike that he is talking about making over 100hp are inline 4 made to produce peak hp at higher rpm and have a higher top speed but the r7 does just as good or even better in corner because of a lower weight slimer body and has much better exeleration if you do a drag race with an r7 and an r6 the r7 will beat it as long as its not super long that's because of the type of engine try comparing it to something closer and in the same catigory like a ninja 650 aprilia rs660 things like that cus wanna know something an r6 and r7 dont race in the same catigories your comparing the wrong things an r7 races with the other 2 bikes i mention
I was never a fan of the center headlight on the r7 which is why I considered either taking it off somehow or covering it. But then for functionality it comes in handy and it started to grow on me over time
Have a question, is the r7 made in Japan ? Does it say in the manual or on the frame somewhere? I want to get this bike, but I want it made in Japan not in India or Thailand like the r3.
I don’t mean to convey any disrespect, but you are absolutely Wrong, if your are comparing this parallel twin to 600 inline 4 supersport class sport bikes, completely apples and oranges. Just by saying that alone, tells me you lack serious knowledge concerning sport bikes. You keep talking about your R3, it also sounds like that is your primary experience and base of knowledge. You are clearly not qualified to give any clickbait ‘hates’ regarding a moto, if youve never even owned a real supersport or superbike.
Shows how different people are. Here's my thoughts v yours:
1. I love the exhaust (even stock I like it) as it really sets it apart from everything else and just sounds hot with a decent exhaust.
2. Power is perfect for size, weight and price. Cannot compare bikes with similar CC because it doesn't always work that way.
3. Shifter is okay but you might need to adjust yours to suit your foot.
Bonus. Seat is actually quite nice compared to some of the real super sports I've owned. Everything can be more comfy though.
4. Lack of modes and tech is, for some people, a big selling point. I shy'd away from the RS660 because of alllll the tech. I want to go for a ride, not program my flight mode
5. The headlight is my favourite part of the bike. It just looks so hot! The whole design is killer and there's no stupid massive headlight that looks gross. It's all sleek and sexy.
Happy riding bro!
Love your viewpoints! I made a video about the things I love about the r7 dropping soon :)
yeah i agree man thats why i love this bike beacuse their is NO tech i just want raw power no buttons no bs just wheelie monster
That bike literally has the ugliest front end that’s made right now , that and the zx10r have the weirdest looking headlights . Way to futuristic at this point . Also it’s so slim . Too slim . Another problem with Yamaha is the shifting . Don’t know what their problem is but they always have problems with false neutrals and not smooth shifting . That’s why I have stayed away from Yamaha with really sucks bc I really use to love their bikes . If they were going to just through on some fairings on an mto7 they could have made a headlight that isn’t so ugly . It’s terrible
I have to disagree on the the exhaust noise. The R7 CP2 engine sounds phenomenal with a full system. Buddy of mine has a full Akra on his MT07 and it sounds incredible. Definitely not your typical sport bike exhaust note, but it sounds so deep and mean!
Agreed. The reason I am drawn to the R7 over a ZX6R is for the deep mean grunt. If you would prefer an inline 4 sound you should probably just get a ZX6R
I dont like the sound of R7 , the sound fits for MT07 as a naked bike. CP2 is just a lousy copycat soubd of a V4 engine. Try to listen to Honda RSV the one they are using in Pro Racing those are the real deal not the CP 2 cylinder. Crossplane is good in 4 cylinder bikes like R1.
Compared to the Ninja 650 I had, the Crossplane engines sound awesome lol. I would have absolutely opted for a R7 if they were out when I purchased my 650.
I have an carbon fiber M4 on mine and sounds crazy
Yoshimura r77 sounds good too. I like how it has the low grunt in low RPM and sounds like a sports bike in high RPM. Then again I don't like the whining crying sound like it's begging to be put down lol.
I upgraded to a GSXR 600 and it’s pretty comfortable and has the power you’re looking for. The suspension and brakes are premium too. Great bike. Test ride one.
I gotta hand it to you for riding in the winter man! I live in upstate Rochester NY and anything under 50 degrees is to cold for me to ride. With that said I love watching your videos especially because I don’t want to ride because it’s to cold lol. Keep them coming your content is great!
Aha thanks brodie
Thats what was getting me on the r7 as well, thats why i was looking towards the cbr650r where it actually sounds more towards supersport.
I really like the looks of this bike but I had the MT-07 and it just wasn’t enough coming from the 600cc class. Now it was way more comfortable though, I can definitely say that.
As an older rider 57yrs who road Supersport bikes in the 80's and 90's the lack of modes and assistants like traction control etc. is something I like. I am enjoying the R7 but I can see how a younger rider might want more but for me with a few mods like full race pipe and Yoshimura airbox adding a supposed 10-12hp the bike is in the sweet spot keeping me from getting too stupid (can't let that dumb 20yr old hiding inside me rear his ugly head LOL🤣😂).. Stay upright my young friend have fun. 🤘😎🏍
Thanks for sharing!
oh thank god. I was worried being 42 would be too old for a sport bike lol
@@dj_sixxx I taught my dad how to ride on a sports bike and he’s 50 so it’s definitely doable
You're inspiring sir!
I hope I'll be riding motorcycles in my 50s and still having fun worried about acting too irresponsible if i get a bigger bike haha
Keep doing it and ride safe💙
I upgraded from a 2015 Yamaha R3 to a 2014 Yamaha MT07 and I have the exact same shifter throw issue, I occasionally shift into neutral when trying to get into 2nd gear, especially when trying to shift quickly and not REALLY putting force into it. I reckon it's the design of the gear lever or gearbox of the MT07 and R7. A few times I have also hit false neutrals from 4th to 5th. I'm not sure if it is adjustable but I have fairly small feet (size 10) so it might be that I dunno. Either way, the CP2 engine is INTOXICATING, the torque and the sound makes all the faults of the MT07 fall away every time I ride. My opinion on the R7 is I don't feel a mid-power twin fits the supersport ergos and style, similar to what you said, something more revvy suits that style like the 180-degree crank of the R3 or something like the high revving inline-4 of the R6. The CP2 engine is great but it falls flat in the high revs and honestly it's top speed isn't that far off from the R3.
I got a full Termignoni exhaust on my R7, and the danos quick shifter. I get nothing but compliments on the sound.
good to see the tag on the keys...someones soon to be brand new bike, is in this video and ur on it.
What brand new bike has a lot more features for $9k?
Adjust your shifter and shift linkage for your foot/boot. You may need to lower the angle a few degrees. Just don't lower it enough to make it a contact point on lean. Don't cover or turn off your headlamp, that's a safety/visibility issue.
Thanks for the tips!
I have a Ninja 400 already and I now also got an R7.... I love that both these bikes don't have the power of a 4 cylinder 600, or even a RS660.... I love that the R7 is a mini torque beast and I love the grunty/different sound. I love that it's a bit of an underdog that is better suited for the road in terms of its power profile... and I can get on with developing better riding skills without being just another no brains hot head kid on a 600 that gofast in a straight line..I have been on bigger, faster bikes and it gets old quick (looking at you GSX 750R and older FZR 750 and 1000 Genesis). For me what you hate are some of the biggest selling points plus also feel the value is spot on. Nothing beats the reliability of a Yamaha! I feel one really needs to appreciate the maturity it took for Yamaha to create something different. The Ninja 400 also punches way above its weight in the right hands, with a couple mods I easily show up riders on bigger bikes and they respect the hell out of me and the Ninja 400 once we been for ride together.
Do you think it's necessary to start on a 250-400, or something like an r7 or ninja 650 would be an acceptable first bike? (Assuming one is responsible with it)
@@basharsaleh1755 I mean if we were all honest about our actual skills a Ninja 400 would be fine for 90% of riders. The big thing that makes it more acceptable for a beginner is the weight being lower than a R7 or Ninja 650. It also has a very friendly seating position and low seat height. I would even argue that a Ninja 400 is more fun than a Ninja 650 for anyone just based on weight alone (R7 different being a bit more powerful carries the extra weight a bit better IMHO). However the ninja 400 stands apart from everything else below it, I feel that a 250-300 (including a Yamaha R3) can be outgrown pretty quickly, Ninja 400 hits a sweet spot for being beginner friendly and still challenging enough to keep more experienced riders entertained. Ninja 400 is like Labrador puppy with a stick, it is friendly, energetic and fun.That being said, if the new rider is over 6ft tall I might push them to look at a CBR500R as it is quite a bit more spacious even though Ninja 400 has a small edge over it on performance (again most due to bit of extra weight).
@@101BadBreath pretty interesting, yeah when i first heard about the 400 i was like ok 400 not too low compared to 250 or 300 i thought those were too low
But i have 2 main concerns
1. I don't wanna have to be revving it to cruise at 70 or 80 mph on the highway, so I'm not trying to get a bike slower than my car
2. How fast would i outgrow it, so how long did you have the 400 before you decided to upgrade to an r7
@@basharsaleh1755 1. Ninja 400 will hit 118-120 mph in the right conditions. It's sweet spot for cruising on highway is 65-78 mph without screaming... over 80+ it does start to scream a bit. One could change the sprockets to lengthen gears slightly but did a 2000 mile tour from South Eastern England to up and around Northern Scotland and back... Doing up to 7 hrs on highways some days and decided it didn't need it. Highways are not a problem. I find it pulls strongly till about 108 mph and from there it's a bit pedestrian to get to top speed .. but I hardly ever do over 90. 2. I haven't outgrown mine, I have had it two years... I ride my R7 and sometimes wish I was on the Ninja 400... It's more forgiving, more comfortable and I can learn a lot more from it still... I don't plan to sell it... It's just too much fun. The reason why I have two bikes is because I live between two countries, ninja 400 in UK and R7 is in North Carolina, and Yamaha and Kawasaki are my top two brands with Triumph in third. I have been riding bikes from 1987... ridden many bikes big and small... I am am an average 5ft 9 inch tall and a stocky 185-190 pound 48 year old. What the new ninja does need is an end can as the stock is huge and it will annoy the back of your foot (I have Scorpion Carbon it sounds great), a tail tidy, other extras I have is a smoked touring windscreen and adjustable leavers but those two not necessary. Ps my third bike will be a Z900RS...
@@101BadBreath alright man thanks a lot, the info is really helpful i really appreciate it
Also it's nice you're 48 and still interested in this stuff i hope I'll be riding throughout my 50s, I'm still 21 though so hopefully bikes don't become boring by then
Comparing an R7 to 600cc bikes is innacurate, they are different classes of bike
comparing a 2 cylinder to a 4cylinder is crazyyy lol.
This bike was made to have usable power for the street that you can also use on the track, not a pure track bike
I have a toce exhaust for my r7, it sounds really good
I'll post a short video on the sounds
I HATE commenting this but the r6 being a middle weight bike is true but the r7 is not in the class of 600's its in the realm of the Aprilia rs660 which is also a TWIN btw..... TWINS CUP
(they dont race together....)
Lol. Dang bro. You listed all the reasons I hesitated on the R7. Such an amazing bike, but they could have done … a bit more to make it perfect
Still a great bike tho despite its flaws
Guess what dude, if Yamaha developed a new chassis and engine for the R7 then it would easily be north of 10k. They updated everything on the R7 from the mt07 platform. They made minor tweaks to the engine, updated chassis, brakes, and suspension. Excellent aerodynamics and good tires. All for 9k. Don't need all that electronic junk on this bike. It's a great sport bike for the street and a great tool for the track.
Whats the gear you use in your video? like gopro and mic
Go pro hero 11 as main cam, hero 7 as 2nd cam. Purple panda lav mic and Sena 50s for Bluetooth. Will do a video soon about my helmet breakdown
@@RickyMoto Appreciate it👍
@@RickyMoto Look forward to the helmet cam setup
Keep it up❤
Thanks ✌️
You should big bore and turbo this bike 👀
Check the R7 with SC Project CRT!!! You gonna change your mind 👌
I have it on my R7, it's loud, but still sounds shit compared to inline 4.
r7 w m4 exhaust is insane, sounds like a mf diesel
It's a nice bike but I do not like the handle bar's
It would become very tiring leaning on them for very long.
i do agree with you about how R7 sound it's really not that feeling of R6, it's sounds like a naked bike which is ok with MT07 but its R7 come on bro..they really screwed it up, TOCE is good, SC project moto gp full system and there is another one i am checking it's called n-one project exhaust..
Bikes are a lot better with no rider modes.
Type in r7 n seen you n was like WHEEENNNNN
Is I just me , feel like ur new GoPro quality not as good as the old one😂
It's a bikers bike... minimum electronics.
Ya man they have the same engine so you can’t really compare the sound of it when it’s just the same engine. It’s just a full fairing MT07 but in sports bike fairing. I disagree with everything lol. Dude it’s not made to go stupid fast. It’s made to be best of both worlds, I’d like to say it’s more track oriented. It’s not fast nor it’s slow it’s just right. The right amount of power and it’s not slow like a r3…
Thanks for sharing!
the problem with what he is talking about hp is that its a twin 650 class not an inline 4 600 class like look at the ninja 400 and zx4rr same cc one produces way more hp than the other one but the one with less cylinders beat the one with more hp because you get all the power way earlyer than most he is comparing an f1 car to a nascar they don't do the same type of thing and are built compleatly diferently the closest thing with the r7 and other super sports is how they look cus a 600cc class sport bike that he is talking about making over 100hp are inline 4 made to produce peak hp at higher rpm and have a higher top speed but the r7 does just as good or even better in corner because of a lower weight slimer body and has much better exeleration if you do a drag race with an r7 and an r6 the r7 will beat it as long as its not super long that's because of the type of engine try comparing it to something closer and in the same catigory like a ninja 650 aprilia rs660 things like that cus wanna know something an r6 and r7 dont race in the same catigories your comparing the wrong things an r7 races with the other 2 bikes i mention
yes mate the r7 istn in the 600 class ur trippin its a 650 a whole different thing
how many pairs of socks have you got over your mic? all of them?
Lol is it too muffled? I have it tucked in the cheek pads
@@RickyMoto Mate I had to crank my stereo just to hear you.
The single headlight really kills the look of the bike the R3 headlights look better than the R7
I was never a fan of the center headlight on the r7 which is why I considered either taking it off somehow or covering it. But then for functionality it comes in handy and it started to grow on me over time
Have a question, is the r7 made in Japan ? Does it say in the manual or on the frame somewhere? I want to get this bike, but I want it made in Japan not in India or Thailand like the r3.
It’s made in Japan
CP2 have faults...
Youre too small for this bike bro. What are you like 115 lbs
yea i'm tiny aha i'm 120llb
yammie noob dragraced r7 and r6. R7 won the sprint everytime cause of more torque, just not as good in a proper race
The r7 is one of the best sounding bikes I think your in the minority there