I get why Colligo Marine decided to sponsor the entire Dyneema material for the rigging.... Tally Ho sets the tone for the future and is enthusing a whole new generation for the world of boat building.... cheers to you Colligo!
They know worth while exposure and advertising when they see it! Tally-ho is not only the best TH-cam edited videos I've seen but the highest quality workmanship and planning and execution on every level! As I've said before please Leo, let this be the first of many rescue rebuilds! The world will always welcome and reward teams that showcase the level of quality craftsmanship you have brought together!
Every sailing channel of a certain size gets free or discounted supplies. One couple was just given an entire catamaran to cruise around in for a couple years. It’s called marketing and advertising. Patreon and ad revenue is funding many endless summers. And good for them.
They also get to write it off as a marketing expense, so it doesn't end up costing them a thing. Being associated with what's essentially a Pagani level of bespoke tech and elegance is never going to hurt your bottom line.
They are not the first to build to this quality, just the first to get world exposure. Leo deserves what he’s worked for. In his gut he wanted to build it all on his own because he knew he could. Then the realization, thousands of others were willing to help him in his rebuild. All he had to do was take all the time for the videos. And he’s good at it! Thus, he took a detour into TH-cam and created a masterpiece.
Brings back memories.... to and in... the land of my birth... of my mom... it was just her and me.... I was two... not quite three.. when I helped my mom spin wool on the old spinning wheel.... my job was to hold the spinnet whilst she thinned and spun it propper... we played cats cradle with that yarn.... forming... then transfering the construct... from hands.. to hands... one of my first memories... and I was definately not yet three years old.... because by then... she... and I... were in another country... way before coming to this continent... Amazing what you encounter... when you come by Chance....
Thank you, Leo for making our shop look so great! My only regret is that I didn't have the presence of mind to acknowldege how much Ian, Chance, and I learned from Brion Toss. We miss him everyday.
My condolences to you all. I had the rare privilege of working with Brion on the Elissa project back in the early 80s. I learned so much from him and laughed so much too. He was a beautiful human being.
To see such old traditions flourishing and with young people learning and demonstrating how it's done, makes me optimistic that the future of traditional boatbuilding is in good hands. Thank you Leo, for bringing this into our homes through your TH-cam channel.
So much artistry and engineering throughout this entire rebuild. I have so much respect for these people and the dedication to their respective crafts. I had no idea so much was involved in this rebuild when I started watching these videos a couple of years ago.
@@VitalityMassage _The Salvage Of Tally-Ho_ could be a massive long drawn-out series with loads of ridiculous in fighting and fake drama like Ice Road Truckers etc. Leo could retire fat and miserable in a gold plated penthouse!
We have Colligo Dynice Dux on our boat, a Kaufman 47' 17 Ton cutter. It's been about 8 years since John at Colligo installed it. It still looks amazing, which is excellent because of it's inspectability is far superior to Stainless. We had our mast stepped by Brion Toss Rigging, they are the best! Ian inspected the standing rigging and he's confident that we have many years left. Jenn did quite a bit of the work and she's quite skilled and humble. I can attest to this setup whole heartedly. Also very cool to see Chance learning the craft and the joy of doing it is clear. Great episode Leo!
Thanks Steve. As a silver smith I offered Leo a pair of silver medallions for this lovely lady TallyHo. He has yet to give me a design as he really just plain doesn't what the medallions will look like or where to put them. I am in no state of being in a hurry. Once Leo has a couple minutes to work on the design I am going to pour up a pair of beauties for him.@@steveshoemaker6347 Stop by my site and see what I am up to.
@@TomokosEnterprizehis skill as a rigger will be defiantly be satisfied at that shop he could stay but would you when so much more could be learnt by getting out into the world for a few years , I truely hope he travels within the rigging world for a few years after he grasps all his mother and Brian can teach him returning to that shop after a small stint outside would only enhance his status as a world class rigger .. one must remember cranes are part of a riggers domain yes yacht riggers use them as a tool normally bought in and run by a crane crew I really feel chance should get out and do things like this to become the best all round rigger one could be .. myself I started work as a fitter and turner as well as my trade I have also tickets in rigging ,scaffolding and rope access believe me I didn’t learn all those extra skills by staying in one place but they all enhance one another and I just class myself as a well rounded tradesman … yea as a sailor I too also worked in a yacht rigging shop for a small stint, I left that shop enhancing it before I left as they also return the favour giving me more skills as well ,one can never have too much knowledge in engineering type fields get good get trained 40 years of work and im still learning ..
These riggers are COOL. So wonderful they still know the old ways in 2024, and better yet know how to improve them in both strength and weight. That stitching is gorgeous. Somewhere, Albert Strange is smiling.
I really would not call this the "old ways". This is a very modern application of material that is quite new in terms of the history of sailing. The old way from 1909 was Galvanized wire or Hemp rope. What is the old way but is really just a continuum is the high-quality expert craftmanship we get to see.
There's something so satisfying making splices in Dyneema, and it's so easy to learn. It may have been worth mentioning how Brion Toss was an absolute legend, and how his team are among the best riggers in the country.
I am a 81 year old retired machinist,. My hobby is wooden sailing ships and i am working on 1:48 model of the clipper Cutty Sark. I watch with great interest all of your videos. Today was exceptional . I do wish i could fly a serving mallet! Lower main srouds are about .025 and the serving line is about .005.. Plese keep your videos comming!!
Leo, one of my favorite parts of this build are the new terms like "holiday" for gap when serving the shroud. It makes such perfect sense and I got to learn something new today. Reminds me of my early years in Sea Explorers, there's always something new to learn in expanding my marlinspike seamanship.
Haha! My ex-Royal Navy father used the term ‘holiday’ to refer to anything we missed in jobs he gave us as children (such as washing the car, or any other cleaning or painting jobs etc).
It is so WONDERFUL to watch the craftsmen at Brion Toss at work and see the tangible pride they take in their work! The smile on that woman's face filled me with joy!! Thanks, as always, for this project.
I’m not sure how to express this Leo, but I’ll try. I’m thrilled you have such a terrific team working on the rigging, the spars, and so much more. You have been blessed Leo, and I know you know. Keep it moving forward, as hundreds of thousands of people are anxiously awaiting your adventures. Cheers
A seamless blend of calculation and craftsmanship, of technology and tradition. As a union carpenter, I've worked with many tradesmen who would call themselves talented riggers, myself included. This is another level entirely.
I have been short-splicing most of the more unsophisticated, run-of-the-mill ropes on my boat for more than forty years. The amount of expertise involved in working with modern fibres always fills me with awe. Thank you for this extremely instructive video!
The actual splice in the single 12 braid is easier the a short splice in 3 strand IMO. All the leather and serving is not necessary to just spice the rope. But the traditional treatment will make that Dyneema Dux last a long time.
Kudos to Jen Bates. She is obviously a very talented craftsperson with great skill. And I’ll bet she gets a real workout from applying her craft; you can see it in hands and arms. Excellent episode Leo!
Constructing a boat like Tally Ho is such a complicated undertaking. One has to be a mathematical genius to figure out the design requirements and all of that has then to be matched with the highly skilled talents and knowledge of the specialist who complete the work as this video has illustrated in spades. Building TALLY HO is like building the Space Shuttle.
I'm a mechanical engineer with more years of experience than I care to admit and I always find Leo's technical reasoning to the point and logical, it's a pleasure to watch and learn! But apart from being a brilliant engineer, Leo also has a great talent to surround himself with skilled and amazing people. As much as I want to see Tally Ho in the water I really enjoy watching the process getting there. Thanks Leo!
I love the fact so many people are following this adventure and stepping up to help in so many ways... now with the rigging. It is evidence of how special this rebuild is, both to folks who are mariners and to folks who appreciate fine craftsmanship. Every moment of this five year journey has been a delight... even when the task at hand has been repetitive. You really are a master Leo. Thanks for taking us on this amazing adventure. I feel honored to be a patron.
The science (math) involved for the rigging is amazing. While it's being so brilliantly explained, I can follow what needs to get done and why. I never even thought of what was needed. You just have to admire why these trades are so specialised. Much respect for the hidden intricacies we take for granted. Thanks for exposing this Leo. They should introduce this art by way of YT videos.
For someone who had zero knowledge of the art and science of rigging, this has been an education. Here I was thinking that Bob's 53 or so bee-yoo-tiful black locust and ash blocks ("wood porn") were the highlight of the rig and all the rest would be nondescript rope and wire cable. Was I ever mistaken.
I have a serving mallet. It was my fathers. He passed a few years back. I never knew what is was for or what it was called for that matter. It doesn't have the spool holder, but the mallet is in tack. I was blown away with what it was for.
Was involved with a tall ship for a dozen years (STS Leeuwin II). Our riggers had a neat trick of using a swivel that attached to the axle of a 4WD, which the shroud would be attached to for serving. The car would be jacked off the ground and with the shroud tensioned the engine would be started and the 4WD put into low gear. The shroud would rotate, and the serving mallet held still. Took about 20 minutes for each shroud to be fully served with perfect tension and consistency.
I really appreciate that this channel shows people who aren’t men in all stages of their careers in skilled trades. mentors/experts, new graduates, students etc. The message that trades are for everyone is an idea that benefits everyone going forward.
the amount of small, niche shops (and their tools!!) you showcased in the past years is amazing. From the small amount of leather work i do i know their arms must be shredded
I agree that old skills need to be retained and passed on My granddaughter is into macrame, so just before christmas i taught her how to splice 3 strand rope, the loop, the join and the butt end including the crown knot, also how to do whipping to tidy it up, she just needs to practice This was all taught to me by my Dad who was a royal marine based at Chatham where they still make ropes in the traditional way (there are many videos)
One of the things I like so much about this project, and Leo’s videos, is the people that form an ever larger team of exquisitely talented and modest folk, and without exception they all seem such lovely people. Please keep up the excellent work. 😊
For us landlubbbers another amazing journey into the skill, knowledge and intricate workings of what makes Tally Ho the very special project she is. The wonderfull kindly people who constructed the rigging, their incredible skill and beautiful workmanship and most of all, the donation of the materials to make that rigging, the Tally Ho project underscores why it has become the enriching phenomenon it is. It couldn't have fallen to a more perfect agent than Leo, who's clear vision and sensible nature has made this journey the epic saga it is. There will not easily be another project that has drawn so many together for such a worthy cause. Bravo Tally Ho.
I saw something on Tally Ho 5 years ago and took no notice. AND - Here I am in New Zealand 2023 and Christmas comes around and this bloody country shuts down for 3-4 weeks (still a week to go). For whatever reason about 3 weeks ago I end up watching Tally Ep 67. I'm hooked, so I go back to Ep 1 and binge watch until around 2nd January when I run out. NOW I HAVE TO FUCKING WAIT FOR A NEW EPISODE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
So, in climber’s terms, because of the braided nature of the dynema lines, the tail being pulled inside the hollow core causes the exterior braid to act like a kernmantle on a climbing line. The harder you pull on the rope, the more compression and tension the braid places on the tail end inside. Like what used to be called chinese finger cuffs. I’ve only ever spliced twisted rope…but for a braided line this makes perfect sense.
The working hands are very telling as to how long she’s been at her craft of making rigging. It reminds me of my Omas hands, they never had much as a family, her husband died a young man and she worked to provide for 6 kids.
I keep wondering about how they built all those wooden ships back in the day, without any of the modern conveniences we enjoy today. Must have employed many crafts people! And was a beehive of activity.
What a joy to see these videos and to witness the care, skill, knowledge and love that is going into this boat project. It's really about a lot more than a boat. It's about building a community that honors tradition, connection, hard work, and the beauty of handcrafting something functionally elegant and useful.
Couldn’t agree more about Colligo marine and their dyneema rigging. We put a colligo dyneema standing rig on our Corsair trimaran and it was absolutely top quality. Well done John and @Colligo for sponsoring Tally Ho with your generous donation of the dyneema!
Could do an episode about the actual detailed engineering. Brian talks about how they size everything based on the design force/moment, but how do you arrive at that design force to start with? Are there standard shipbuilding codes? Do you just ask the oldest guy in the shop? Or take a poll or make a wild guess?
I believe the general process he was talking about is the use of the design righting moment of the hull. If the sails are loaded sufficiently by the wind, the boat will be blown over. The force opposing this is primarily the righting moment of the boat generated by the gravitational force on the keel lead that is now pivoted out towards the side because the boat is heeled over. The moment generated by the sail rig and the righting moment are essentially equal at any steady state position. Therefore, the design maximum righting moments can be used to estimate the largest possible loading on the rig. This is useful because applied maximum forces to sails can be more complex to estimate. There's still a bunch of work to allocate loads to spars, then to the rig. Then allowing design factors for a time dependent creep allowance, etc.
Nowadays we get wires/dyneemas etc really calculated - what I’ve read is that earlier (1920’s… 1930’s … old egyptians? ) the rule of thumb was that all one side shrouds should be strong enough to lift the boat…
Years ago I made standing and running rigging for modern fiberglass sailboats in southern California. It makes me so happy to see these more traditional techniques being used with Tally Ho. Keep the arts alive!
I love rigging. Recently I gave all of my splicing tools to Sheddy on Chuffed, who is donating her veterinary skill to rural villages in the Sea of Cortez. The work at Brian Toss Rigging is absolutely superior! Thanks Leo for making this task part of your videos.⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️
What a marvellous process making the rigging for Tally Ho. Moreover, the skill being passed down to the younger generation. I am sure that once all the rigging and masts are fitted, Tally Ho will look resplendent.
wow, finally a video that is just up my street.. I was an able seaman in the British Merchant Navy, imagine how nostalgic I felt watching someone else using a serving mallet and doing the sort of stuff i used to do as a younger man. I used to put servings on wire splices back in the day, the saying used to be "worm and parcel with the lay, turn and serve the other way" Ha Ha, and to hear the guy refer to any gaps in the serving as "Holidays".. that's what we used to call it when one of the lads did a pi** poor paint job, leaving bits unpainted - they used to be called Holidays!! (i.e for those that haven't figured it out yet - you must haver been on holiday when that bit was done!!) Absolutely loving the build, keep up the good work Leo, and keep that crew as long as you can, credit where credit is due lads.
Like everything else in the project, Brion Toss Rigging's "head work" is thoroughly and elegantly done. Many if not most boat builders I"ve seen give it this much love and attention.
I don't own a boat; don't know how to sail or anything about rigging a sailboat and probably won't ever know....but it gives me great solace to know that extremely confident people that do know exist in this world. Great stuff! Go Tally HO!
This is unique. To see families working together with all that passion and offer their best knowledge explaining what is the best material to rig Tally Ho and other yatchs too. As we can see it with Tally Ho team, it's s the same! I cannot explain what I feel with. What I know that is unique. Thanks again!!!
Hello Leo ! I'm amazed. Wood working, bronze, electrical installation, motor mechanic, water system, ropes and many other disciplines are required. It requires a immense technological knowledge. Keep on the good work ! Phil. Peace.
This may seem a weird comment but I love to see this mother-son pair at work! Aside from appreciating such an obviously close and loving family relationship, there is something so satisfying about the work they’re doing. Using fine, highly specialized and well thought out materials, they are producing amazingly intricate parts of rigging that will need to repeatedly and continuously absorb immense imposed stresses for many years! I find that fascinating and that’s why I like to watch your channel. We appreciate you for giving us the energy you provide through vicarious feelings of accomplishment.
I really enjoy seeing traditional craftsmanship skills being put to use. So many of these skills are rare, and becoming rarer. Tally Ho is going to be a showcase of these skills and the people who keep them alive.
The skill of the riggers is amazing. I like the way she said splicing that type of rope was very easy and then proceeded to undertake one of the most complex tasks I've seen on video!
I was painting a mast as a teen. The owner said ‘I don’t want to see any holidays’! I told him, ‘don’t worry, I’m working very hard up here’! Mind the gap I came to learn.
That was an amazing episode! Love to see how traditional techniques are adjusted to modern materials to produce something that is hand crafted as well as modern and high tech! Craftsmanship is worth keeping alive. It speaks to who we are and where we came from, while acknowledging advances in science and technology. May we never forget the joy of building something with our hands! 🙂
It's an indication of the quality of her work that a hard lesson has never had to be learned, but leaning into the danger zone of a rope under tension isn't safe.
Hi all, I never imagined that so much work went into what looks like a simple piece of rope............I'm no sailor, you can probably tell...............I'm just amazed by the workmanship that goes into every single thing. I can't wait to see the rest of it now, just brilliant. All the best Dave.
What a wonderful mixture of 100 year old rigging techniques combined with the latest high tech fibres that will give Tally Ho a strong but lightweight rig with a pleasing traditional look to suit the period of the original build.
If any of your children wonder why they need mathematics...show them this video! Was anyone else surprised as to how much calculation is needed to get this right?
The thing that held every ancient civilization back and resulted in their stagnation and collapse was that they did not have facile mathematics. You just can’t invent arithmetic with Roman numerals or hieroglyphics. So they were limited to that kind of math you can do with an abacus. What made the renaissance different was the advent of Arabic notation ( that they got from india ) and the resulting ability to quantify the natural world with precise and predictive formulae. Chemistry, Optics, Algebra… all began in the caliphate, and the Europeans ran with it. This enabled them to discover such things as different elements, and to explore and quantify their properties, resulting in patterns emerging that became modern chemistry. It resulted in boatbuilding and architecture no longer relying on Old Timers who had built enough things, and seen enough failures to understand what worked and what didn’t, but be able to calculate forces, and invent formulae that would give the designers full control over the results of their far more daring and inventive plans. Keep in mind that prior to the 1400’s, the western world had never even heard of the concept of ‘zero’.
My favorite saying is when someone says "I'm never going to use this stuff." (When speaking of math) is to say "Yeah, you may not, but the smart kids will." Math makes so many thing easier. I use it on a daily basis, and I have no idea how people get by without knowing how to do math properly. Even trig I use extremely often on my projects.
@@reeepingk I’m a sculptor. You wanna build a huge sculpture that won’t fall on people? You better know how to calculate the weight and design an internal armature capable of taking that load under the wind and seismic requirements for its site, not to mention the foundation plan. Math is for creators. Consumers only need to balance their checkbooks.
So good that these traditional skills are being revived/maintained with new materials and proving that the techniques are as valid today as they have been for hundreds of years. Pleasing to watch the choreography of the four hand baseball stitch..!! ❤
I’ve watched this project from its early days, I’m continually awestruck at the skills and education needed to what I would not think was needed. Thank you again for sharing these wonderful and educational episodes of pure joy.
I’d kill to be on this rigging job. Very few vessels have the budget to let the riggers go to town on this high end rigging, properly served and leathered like that. Also getting to use HMPE line in this blended traditional way. So cool. This is essentially how I’ll be rigging my Roughwater 33 sloop, fully served heat set Dyneema with deadeyes and lanyards. Lots of fun. The guys and gals at Brion Toss rigging are probably pinching themselves, getting to work on such a fun and high profile job.
Leo, the complexity of everything involved in this build is just incredible, and to believe they did this hundreds of years ago is mind boggling to me, you talk about some strong hands. The finished product looks amazing.
In addition to your impressive craftsmanship and charisma, I continue to be impressed with your documentary & editing abilities! I would love to assist with some of your editing tasks. In any case, I especially appreciate your delving into the seemingly insignificant yet interesting details, such as how that workbench functions and prevents bowing. Bravo, sir! Your series is a morning coffee + viewing ritual that I always look forward to watching. Much appreciation to you and your entire team from sunny Southern California.
I saw absolutely every one of these series' vids. I am honestly stunned to an astonishing extent I wouldn't have thought possible now after peeking into how this "nuanced art" of rigging was executed for Tally Ho Absolutely marvelous to see those special artists do their magic. Also interesting: how more and more highly specialized suppliers like the dyneema-donor come "on board" with one of the few "goldplaters" being built since the turn of the century. Thanks for sharing and a healthy 2024 for all of Tally Ho's crew and supporters!
I'm sure I wasn't the only one absolutely blown away by this video. I had no idea just how technical a process this was. Mix that in with the skills and craftsmanship and you have something really special.
Anybody who has read Brion Toss's book knows that there is a major figure who, sadly, cannot be present in the video: Brion himself. Jen mentions Brion around 12:25--"That's another of Brion's things...." Tally Ho owes a debt to Brion for starting the business that is doing the rigging and, presumably, teaching those who carry it on in his absence.
Leo, I just wanted to thank you again for having the foresight to envision this project and to see it succeed. When you first started out I told you I was really excited to see a master, or at the very least a journeyman shipwright lay into a project of this size, and brother, you don’t disappoint. Cheers from sunny So California!
When I was younger I made spliced ropes for new England rope company. It was fun. We got between 50-1.75 per rope we spliced and sewed up depending on diameter. It was great winter work. Could make anywhere from 700-1200 ropes per weekend with a buddy of mine.
I cannot believe you are leaving all that serving up to Chance.
hah!
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good one :)
I see what you did there 😂😂😂👍
Are you sure you watched the video and listened to the treatment of the serving to protect it?
I get why Colligo Marine decided to sponsor the entire Dyneema material for the rigging.... Tally Ho sets the tone for the future and is enthusing a whole new generation for the world of boat building.... cheers to you Colligo!
They know worth while exposure and advertising when they see it! Tally-ho is not only the best TH-cam edited videos I've seen but the highest quality workmanship and planning and execution on every level!
As I've said before please Leo, let this be the first of many rescue rebuilds! The world will always welcome and reward teams that showcase the level of quality craftsmanship you have brought together!
Every sailing channel of a certain size gets free or discounted supplies. One couple was just given an entire catamaran to cruise around in for a couple years. It’s called marketing and advertising. Patreon and ad revenue is funding many endless summers. And good for them.
They also get to write it off as a marketing expense, so it doesn't end up costing them a thing.
Being associated with what's essentially a Pagani level of bespoke tech and elegance is never going to hurt your bottom line.
@@jimurrata6785 Good info!
They are not the first to build to this quality, just the first to get world exposure. Leo deserves what he’s worked for. In his gut he wanted to build it all on his own because he knew he could. Then the realization, thousands of others were willing to help him in his rebuild. All he had to do was take all the time for the videos. And he’s good at it! Thus, he took a detour into TH-cam and created a masterpiece.
To see mother and son working together with such difficult and traditional needlework is a blessing. This project just keeps on giving! Good work!
Brings back memories.... to and in... the land of my birth... of my mom... it was just her and me.... I was two... not quite three.. when I helped my mom spin wool on the old spinning wheel.... my job was to hold the spinnet whilst she thinned and spun it propper... we played cats cradle with that yarn.... forming... then transfering the construct... from hands.. to hands... one of my first memories... and I was definately not yet three years old.... because by then... she... and I... were in another country... way before coming to this continent...
Amazing what you encounter... when you come by Chance....
Thank you, Leo for making our shop look so great! My only regret is that I didn't have the presence of mind to acknowldege how much Ian, Chance, and I learned from Brion Toss. We miss him everyday.
Amazing work. I was a pleasure to see you demonstrate your hard earned skill. Clearly learned from a respected mentor
My condolences to you all. I had the rare privilege of working with Brion on the Elissa project back in the early 80s. I learned so much from him and laughed so much too. He was a beautiful human being.
That serving mallet is cool as heck.
It’s one of those tools where you can’t imagine it could be improved upon at all. What a neat bit of vintage tech!
Love tools.
Isn't it amazing how skilled people make complex tasks look easy?
I work with people who make easy tasks look ...............painfull
To see such old traditions flourishing and with young people learning and demonstrating how it's done, makes me optimistic that the future of traditional boatbuilding is in good hands. Thank you Leo, for bringing this into our homes through your TH-cam channel.
Thanks for saving me the typing on my comment!! DD
So much artistry and engineering throughout this entire rebuild. I have so much respect for these people and the dedication to their respective crafts. I had no idea so much was involved in this rebuild when I started watching these videos a couple of years ago.
It had better float. That's all I can say.
@@VitalityMassage _The Salvage Of Tally-Ho_ could be a massive long drawn-out series with loads of ridiculous in fighting and fake drama like Ice Road Truckers etc. Leo could retire fat and miserable in a gold plated penthouse!
We have Colligo Dynice Dux on our boat, a Kaufman 47' 17 Ton cutter. It's been about 8 years since John at Colligo installed it. It still looks amazing, which is excellent because of it's inspectability is far superior to Stainless. We had our mast stepped by Brion Toss Rigging, they are the best! Ian inspected the standing rigging and he's confident that we have many years left. Jenn did quite a bit of the work and she's quite skilled and humble. I can attest to this setup whole heartedly. Also very cool to see Chance learning the craft and the joy of doing it is clear.
Great episode Leo!
The young fella will be working there for a very, very long time.
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@@TomokosEnterprize Hope so.
Thanks Steve. As a silver smith I offered Leo a pair of silver medallions for this lovely lady TallyHo. He has yet to give me a design as he really just plain doesn't what the medallions will look like or where to put them. I am in no state of being in a hurry. Once Leo has a couple minutes to work on the design I am going to pour up a pair of beauties for him.@@steveshoemaker6347 Stop by my site and see what I am up to.
@@TomokosEnterprizehis skill as a rigger will be defiantly be satisfied at that shop he could stay but would you when so much more could be learnt by getting out into the world for a few years , I truely hope he travels within the rigging world for a few years after he grasps all his mother and Brian can teach him returning to that shop after a small stint outside would only enhance his status as a world class rigger .. one must remember cranes are part of a riggers domain yes yacht riggers use them as a tool normally bought in and run by a crane crew I really feel chance should get out and do things like this to become the best all round rigger one could be .. myself I started work as a fitter and turner as well as my trade I have also tickets in rigging ,scaffolding and rope access believe me I didn’t learn all those extra skills by staying in one place but they all enhance one another and I just class myself as a well rounded tradesman … yea as a sailor I too also worked in a yacht rigging shop for a small stint, I left that shop enhancing it before I left as they also return the favour giving me more skills as well ,one can never have too much knowledge in engineering type fields get good get trained 40 years of work and im still learning ..
These riggers are COOL. So wonderful they still know the old ways in 2024, and better yet know how to improve them in both strength and weight. That stitching is gorgeous. Somewhere, Albert Strange is smiling.
I really would not call this the "old ways". This is a very modern application of material that is quite new in terms of the history of sailing. The old way from 1909 was Galvanized wire or Hemp rope. What is the old way but is really just a continuum is the high-quality expert craftmanship we get to see.
There's something so satisfying making splices in Dyneema, and it's so easy to learn.
It may have been worth mentioning how Brion Toss was an absolute legend, and how his team are among the best riggers in the country.
18:24 right about now I, (as a Shipwright) am feeling like a stupid Apprentice again. This is fascinating and brilliant.
Oddly satisfying to see these experts of their craft at work.
And big shout-out to Colligo Marine for donating the material.
GIGANTIC THANK YOU to Colligo Marine for donating the dyneema line!
Tally Ho, where art meets engineering ❤
I never stop learning when I come to this channel. It is so satisfying to see how modern materials work with old methods. Keep it coming, please, Leo!
I am a 81 year old retired machinist,. My hobby is wooden sailing ships and i am working on 1:48 model of the clipper Cutty Sark. I watch with great interest all of your videos. Today was exceptional . I do wish i could fly a serving mallet! Lower main srouds are about .025 and the serving line is about .005..
Plese keep your videos comming!!
I totally agree
Leo, one of my favorite parts of this build are the new terms like "holiday" for gap when serving the shroud. It makes such perfect sense and I got to learn something new today. Reminds me of my early years in Sea Explorers, there's always something new to learn in expanding my marlinspike seamanship.
My dad was an old WWII Pacific sailor, and spoke often of holidays, blivets, and Irish pennants whenever I had work to do.
Until today I always thought of holidays as errors in the varnishing of the brightwork.
That works too.@@chip9177
Haha! My ex-Royal Navy father used the term ‘holiday’ to refer to anything we missed in jobs he gave us as children (such as washing the car, or any other cleaning or painting jobs etc).
It is so WONDERFUL to watch the craftsmen at Brion Toss at work and see the tangible pride they take in their work! The smile on that woman's face filled me with joy!! Thanks, as always, for this project.
I’m not sure how to express this Leo, but I’ll try. I’m thrilled you have such a terrific team working on the rigging, the spars, and so much more. You have been blessed Leo, and I know you know. Keep it moving forward, as hundreds of thousands of people are anxiously awaiting your adventures. Cheers
A seamless blend of calculation and craftsmanship, of technology and tradition. As a union carpenter, I've worked with many tradesmen who would call themselves talented riggers, myself included. This is another level entirely.
Well said --- I've done some heavy lifts, but this is another level entirely.
Those are some artisans. Beautiful work that you won't see all the calculations and engineering behind it when up on the rigging. Amazing.
I can’t believe this video is trending! (thrilled for Leo and the project!)
Trending 19th! Personally haven't seen it trending higher. This is so great, and deserved.
I have been short-splicing most of the more unsophisticated, run-of-the-mill ropes on my boat for more than forty years. The amount of expertise involved in working with modern fibres always fills me with awe. Thank you for this extremely instructive video!
The actual splice in the single 12 braid is easier the a short splice in 3 strand IMO. All the leather and serving is not necessary to just spice the rope. But the traditional treatment will make that Dyneema Dux last a long time.
Kudos to Jen Bates. She is obviously a very talented craftsperson with great skill. And I’ll bet she gets a real workout from applying her craft; you can see it in hands and arms. Excellent episode Leo!
Jenn is a lovely person. Imagine those hands on your sensitive parts!! ☺️
She must have an iron grip.
The two people at the rigging place were fantastic, the lady looks to have had an interesting life and is full of character.
That rigging work is absolutely amazing. Never would have thought about the complexity in designing and making. True Artisan work
1n the 1870,s yes 1870, rigging was learned as an apprentice. There were "rules " as to which set of shrouds when on first. Lots and lots of rules.
It warms my heart to see teams like Brian Toss Riggers doing their thing
(Fair play to Colligo Marine as well!)
Riggers are very impressive. Obviously know their craft/engineering/science.
Constructing a boat like Tally Ho is such a complicated undertaking. One has to be a mathematical genius to figure out the design requirements and all of that has then to be matched with the highly skilled talents and knowledge of the specialist who complete the work as this video has illustrated in spades. Building TALLY HO is like building the Space Shuttle.
I'm a mechanical engineer with more years of experience than I care to admit and I always find Leo's technical reasoning to the point and logical, it's a pleasure to watch and learn! But apart from being a brilliant engineer, Leo also has a great talent to surround himself with skilled and amazing people. As much as I want to see Tally Ho in the water I really enjoy watching the process getting there. Thanks Leo!
I love the fact so many people are following this adventure and stepping up to help in so many ways... now with the rigging. It is evidence of how special this rebuild is, both to folks who are mariners and to folks who appreciate fine craftsmanship. Every moment of this five year journey has been a delight... even when the task at hand has been repetitive. You really are a master Leo. Thanks for taking us on this amazing adventure. I feel honored to be a patron.
I wouldn’t miss it for the world. Leo has turned this project into a masterpiece of boat building. Tally Ho will live on for a very long time.
Making the wire look EXTREMELY INTERESTING!
I've never seen this before, new knowledge is fantastic!
Or old knowledge, perhaps. 😄
That lady makes a very difficult job look easy, believe me it's not !! A true Artisan !! 👏👏
@@SonjaBruenzels sure she has, but she is also a true lady and that is beautiful !!
The science (math) involved for the rigging is amazing. While it's being so brilliantly explained, I can follow what needs to get done and why. I never even thought of what was needed. You just have to admire why these trades are so specialised. Much respect for the hidden intricacies we take for granted.
Thanks for exposing this Leo.
They should introduce this art by way of YT videos.
For someone who had zero knowledge of the art and science of rigging, this has been an education. Here I was thinking that Bob's 53 or so bee-yoo-tiful black locust and ash blocks ("wood porn") were the highlight of the rig and all the rest would be nondescript rope and wire cable. Was I ever mistaken.
I love this series, this boat, and all the talented folks investing their life to their crafts. A true exposition of the human spirit.
I have a serving mallet. It was my fathers. He passed a few years back. I never knew what is was for or what it was called for that matter. It doesn't have the spool holder, but the mallet is in tack. I was blown away with what it was for.
Was involved with a tall ship for a dozen years (STS Leeuwin II). Our riggers had a neat trick of using a swivel that attached to the axle of a 4WD, which the shroud would be attached to for serving. The car would be jacked off the ground and with the shroud tensioned the engine would be started and the 4WD put into low gear. The shroud would rotate, and the serving mallet held still. Took about 20 minutes for each shroud to be fully served with perfect tension and consistency.
So nice to see young people doing the crafts of long ago. Knowledge should not be lost.
I really appreciate that this channel shows people who aren’t men in all stages of their careers in skilled trades. mentors/experts, new graduates, students etc. The message that trades are for everyone is an idea that benefits everyone going forward.
Spent the last couple of weeks watching videos from 5 years ago to the most current. The transformation that has taken place is astounding.
the amount of small, niche shops (and their tools!!) you showcased in the past years is amazing. From the small amount of leather work i do i know their arms must be shredded
Toss Rigging and Colligo Marine I hope that in 2024 you know how special you are! Bravo!
10k views in 20 minutes? That's crazy!
Great job, team!
I agree that old skills need to be retained and passed on
My granddaughter is into macrame, so just before christmas i taught her how to splice 3 strand rope, the loop, the join and the butt end including the crown knot, also how to do whipping to tidy it up, she just needs to practice
This was all taught to me by my Dad who was a royal marine based at Chatham where they still make ropes in the traditional way (there are many videos)
One of the things I like so much about this project, and Leo’s videos, is the people that form an ever larger team of exquisitely talented and modest folk, and without exception they all seem such lovely people. Please keep up the excellent work. 😊
For us landlubbbers another amazing journey into the skill, knowledge and intricate workings of what makes Tally Ho the very special project she is. The wonderfull kindly people who constructed the rigging, their incredible skill and beautiful workmanship and most of all, the donation of the materials to make that rigging, the Tally Ho project underscores why it has become the enriching phenomenon it is. It couldn't have fallen to a more perfect agent than Leo, who's clear vision and sensible nature has made this journey the epic saga it is. There will not easily be another project that has drawn so many together for such a worthy cause. Bravo Tally Ho.
I saw something on Tally Ho 5 years ago and took no notice. AND - Here I am in New Zealand 2023 and Christmas comes around and this bloody country shuts down for 3-4 weeks (still a week to go). For whatever reason about 3 weeks ago I end up watching Tally Ep 67. I'm hooked, so I go back to Ep 1 and binge watch until around 2nd January when I run out. NOW I HAVE TO FUCKING WAIT FOR A NEW EPISODE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Shout out to John at Colligo for hooking the project up!!
Everyone in this video is so cool. Best show on TH-cam
So, in climber’s terms, because of the braided nature of the dynema lines, the tail being pulled inside the hollow core causes the exterior braid to act like a kernmantle on a climbing line. The harder you pull on the rope, the more compression and tension the braid places on the tail end inside. Like what used to be called chinese finger cuffs. I’ve only ever spliced twisted rope…but for a braided line this makes perfect sense.
The working hands are very telling as to how long she’s been at her craft of making rigging. It reminds me of my Omas hands, they never had much as a family, her husband died a young man and she worked to provide for 6 kids.
Incredible the number of tremendously knowledgable and skilled folks that are involved on this project.
Yes. Watching this series has been very educational, as well as entertaining!
I keep wondering about how they built all those wooden ships back in the day, without any of the modern conveniences we enjoy today. Must have employed many crafts people! And was a beehive of activity.
Thank you Colligo Marine.
That was a generous gift
What a joy to see these videos and to witness the care, skill, knowledge and love that is going into this boat project. It's really about a lot more than a boat. It's about building a community that honors tradition, connection, hard work, and the beauty of handcrafting something functionally elegant and useful.
Couldn’t agree more about Colligo marine and their dyneema rigging. We put a colligo dyneema standing rig on our Corsair trimaran and it was absolutely top quality. Well done John and @Colligo for sponsoring Tally Ho with your generous donation of the dyneema!
Could do an episode about the actual detailed engineering. Brian talks about how they size everything based on the design force/moment, but how do you arrive at that design force to start with? Are there standard shipbuilding codes? Do you just ask the oldest guy in the shop? Or take a poll or make a wild guess?
I believe the general process he was talking about is the use of the design righting moment of the hull. If the sails are loaded sufficiently by the wind, the boat will be blown over. The force opposing this is primarily the righting moment of the boat generated by the gravitational force on the keel lead that is now pivoted out towards the side because the boat is heeled over. The moment generated by the sail rig and the righting moment are essentially equal at any steady state position. Therefore, the design maximum righting moments can be used to estimate the largest possible loading on the rig. This is useful because applied maximum forces to sails can be more complex to estimate. There's still a bunch of work to allocate loads to spars, then to the rig. Then allowing design factors for a time dependent creep allowance, etc.
Nowadays we get wires/dyneemas etc really calculated - what I’ve read is that earlier (1920’s… 1930’s … old egyptians? ) the rule of thumb was that all one side shrouds should be strong enough to lift the boat…
Years ago I made standing and running rigging for modern fiberglass sailboats in southern California. It makes me so happy to see these more traditional techniques being used with Tally Ho. Keep the arts alive!
I love rigging. Recently I gave all of my splicing tools to Sheddy on Chuffed, who is donating her veterinary skill to rural villages in the Sea of Cortez. The work at Brian Toss Rigging is absolutely superior! Thanks Leo for making this task part of your videos.⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️
I bet Jen has a handshake like a power lifter. 🙂It’s great that she’s passing her skills down to Chance.
What a marvellous process making the rigging for Tally Ho. Moreover, the skill being passed down to the younger generation. I am sure that once all the rigging and masts are fitted, Tally Ho will look resplendent.
wow, finally a video that is just up my street.. I was an able seaman in the British Merchant Navy, imagine how nostalgic I felt watching someone else using a serving mallet and doing the sort of stuff i used to do as a younger man. I used to put servings on wire splices back in the day, the saying used to be "worm and parcel with the lay, turn and serve the other way" Ha Ha, and to hear the guy refer to any gaps in the serving as "Holidays".. that's what we used to call it when one of the lads did a pi** poor paint job, leaving bits unpainted - they used to be called Holidays!! (i.e for those that haven't figured it out yet - you must haver been on holiday when that bit was done!!) Absolutely loving the build, keep up the good work Leo, and keep that crew as long as you can, credit where credit is due lads.
Like everything else in the project, Brion Toss Rigging's "head work" is thoroughly and elegantly done. Many if not most boat builders I"ve seen give it this much love and attention.
That young man serving the line, was very impressive: articulate and knowledgeable.
I don't own a boat; don't know how to sail or anything about rigging a sailboat and probably won't ever know....but it gives me great solace to know that extremely confident people that do know exist in this world. Great stuff! Go Tally HO!
This is unique.
To see families working together with all that passion and offer their best knowledge explaining what is the best material to rig Tally Ho and other yatchs too.
As we can see it with Tally Ho team, it's s the same!
I cannot explain what I feel with.
What I know that is unique.
Thanks again!!!
The dog looks like an old sailor that had sailed thousands of nautical miles in his life! Love it❤
Yep, looked like an old sea dog.
And the videography whiz that Leo is came pretty close to matching the dog's gait to the sound track. Great fun!
science meets skill to create ART
Hello Leo !
I'm amazed. Wood working, bronze, electrical installation, motor mechanic, water system, ropes and many other disciplines are required. It requires a immense technological knowledge. Keep on the good work !
Phil. Peace.
This may seem a weird comment but I love to see this mother-son pair at work! Aside from appreciating such an obviously close and loving family relationship, there is something so satisfying about the work they’re doing. Using fine, highly specialized and well thought out materials, they are producing amazingly intricate parts of rigging that will need to repeatedly and continuously absorb immense imposed stresses for many years! I find that fascinating and that’s why I like to watch your channel. We appreciate you for giving us the energy you provide through vicarious feelings of accomplishment.
That was all very fascinating, Leo! Ian, Jenn and Chance seem extremely knowledgeable and meticulous. Fantastic work.
That stitching is gorgeous. I can't help but think tally ho's reincarnation will be a finer rendition than the original.
I really enjoy seeing traditional craftsmanship skills being put to use. So many of these skills are rare, and becoming rarer. Tally Ho is going to be a showcase of these skills and the people who keep them alive.
Port Townsend has such an array of craftsmanship for these old ships. It is truly amazing.
Well Jen’s my new hero. What a badass.
The skill of the riggers is amazing. I like the way she said splicing that type of rope was very easy and then proceeded to undertake one of the most complex tasks I've seen on video!
I was painting a mast as a teen. The owner said ‘I don’t want to see any holidays’! I told him, ‘don’t worry, I’m working very hard up here’! Mind the gap I came to learn.
Holly heck Leo, is there any part of Tally Ho that isn’t amazing, what a fantastic example of an old school skill/art.
That was an amazing episode! Love to see how traditional techniques are adjusted to modern materials to produce something that is hand crafted as well as modern and high tech! Craftsmanship is worth keeping alive. It speaks to who we are and where we came from, while acknowledging advances in science and technology. May we never forget the joy of building something with our hands! 🙂
It's an indication of the quality of her work that a hard lesson has never had to be learned, but leaning into the danger zone of a rope under tension isn't safe.
Hi all, I never imagined that so much work went into what looks like a simple piece of rope............I'm no sailor, you can probably tell...............I'm just amazed by the workmanship that goes into every single thing. I can't wait to see the rest of it now, just brilliant. All the best Dave.
What a wonderful mixture of 100 year old rigging techniques combined with the latest high tech fibres that will give Tally Ho a strong but lightweight rig with a pleasing traditional look to suit the period of the original build.
If any of your children wonder why they need mathematics...show them this video!
Was anyone else surprised as to how much calculation is needed to get this right?
The thing that held every ancient civilization back and resulted in their stagnation and collapse was that they did not have facile mathematics. You just can’t invent arithmetic with Roman numerals or hieroglyphics. So they were limited to that kind of math you can do with an abacus. What made the renaissance different was the advent of Arabic notation ( that they got from india ) and the resulting ability to quantify the natural world with precise and predictive formulae. Chemistry, Optics, Algebra… all began in the caliphate, and the Europeans ran with it. This enabled them to discover such things as different elements, and to explore and quantify their properties, resulting in patterns emerging that became modern chemistry. It resulted in boatbuilding and architecture no longer relying on Old Timers who had built enough things, and seen enough failures to understand what worked and what didn’t, but be able to calculate forces, and invent formulae that would give the designers full control over the results of their far more daring and inventive plans. Keep in mind that prior to the 1400’s, the western world had never even heard of the concept of ‘zero’.
@@christopherpardell4418- As I like to say, "Nothing is important!"
My favorite saying is when someone says "I'm never going to use this stuff." (When speaking of math) is to say "Yeah, you may not, but the smart kids will." Math makes so many thing easier. I use it on a daily basis, and I have no idea how people get by without knowing how to do math properly. Even trig I use extremely often on my projects.
since the start of 2024 ...so far so good - I haven't had the need to use any Algebra
@@reeepingk I’m a sculptor. You wanna build a huge sculpture that won’t fall on people? You better know how to calculate the weight and design an internal armature capable of taking that load under the wind and seismic requirements for its site, not to mention the foundation plan. Math is for creators. Consumers only need to balance their checkbooks.
So good that these traditional skills are being revived/maintained with new materials and proving that the techniques are as valid today as they have been for hundreds of years.
Pleasing to watch the choreography of the four hand baseball stitch..!! ❤
RESPECT to the Lady.
What she did with that splice was magic. So cool to see mother and son working together.
I’ve watched this project from its early days, I’m continually awestruck at the skills and education needed to what I would not think was needed. Thank you again for sharing these wonderful and educational episodes of pure joy.
How fantastic to see a skilled trade like that, passed from mother to son.
I’d kill to be on this rigging job. Very few vessels have the budget to let the riggers go to town on this high end rigging, properly served and leathered like that. Also getting to use HMPE line in this blended traditional way. So cool. This is essentially how I’ll be rigging my Roughwater 33 sloop, fully served heat set Dyneema with deadeyes and lanyards.
Lots of fun.
The guys and gals at Brion Toss rigging are probably pinching themselves, getting to work on such a fun and high profile job.
Leo, the complexity of everything involved in this build is just incredible, and to believe they did this hundreds of years ago is mind boggling to me, you talk about some strong hands. The finished product looks amazing.
In addition to your impressive craftsmanship and charisma, I continue to be impressed with your documentary & editing abilities! I would love to assist with some of your editing tasks. In any case, I especially appreciate your delving into the seemingly insignificant yet interesting details, such as how that workbench functions and prevents bowing. Bravo, sir! Your series is a morning coffee + viewing ritual that I always look forward to watching. Much appreciation to you and your entire team from sunny Southern California.
Such a good feeling knowing that there is still True craftsman’s teaching their young. Leo you are a great inspiration to a whole lot Thanks.
I saw absolutely every one of these series' vids. I am honestly stunned to an astonishing extent I wouldn't have thought possible now after peeking into how this "nuanced art" of rigging was executed for Tally Ho Absolutely marvelous to see those special artists do their magic. Also interesting: how more and more highly specialized suppliers like the dyneema-donor come "on board" with one of the few "goldplaters" being built since the turn of the century. Thanks for sharing and a healthy 2024 for all of Tally Ho's crew and supporters!
I'm sure I wasn't the only one absolutely blown away by this video. I had no idea just how technical a process this was. Mix that in with the skills and craftsmanship and you have something really special.
Keep pushing the craft, art , love and wonder that is this project! The amount of manhours that has been put in this vessel is totaly bonkers!
Not to mention the money…….
Anybody who has read Brion Toss's book knows that there is a major figure who, sadly, cannot be present in the video: Brion himself. Jen mentions Brion around 12:25--"That's another of Brion's things...." Tally Ho owes a debt to Brion for starting the business that is doing the rigging and, presumably, teaching those who carry it on in his absence.
Leo, I just wanted to thank you again for having the foresight to envision this project and to see it succeed. When you first started out I told you I was really excited to see a master, or at the very least a journeyman shipwright lay into a project of this size, and brother, you don’t disappoint. Cheers from sunny So California!
When I was younger I made spliced ropes for new England rope company. It was fun. We got between 50-1.75 per rope we spliced and sewed up depending on diameter. It was great winter work. Could make anywhere from 700-1200 ropes per weekend with a buddy of mine.
I just continue to be amazed by how much I don't know about this!! But I'm learning!! 8) --gary
I could watch 6 hour episodes of this channel