Joe Rogan: Story about Pro Pool Player Who was a DRUG ADDICT!?!
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- Joe Rogan and Fedor Gorst discuss a crazy pool player that Joe knew named Waterdog. He was extremely good at Pool when was on drugs and a below average player when he was off drugs. What are your thoughts on Waterdog??
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Get Ronnie O Sullivan onto the show
The sad thing is i bet joe wouldnt even know who ronnie osullivan is
@@ryanmichael7795 I bet he does. Joe's pretty into pool so I'd hope he does.
Earl Strickland would be more entertaining.
@@stevesmith2171 I mean Ronnie players snooker
@@thrk6952 I know. Ronnie has been playing at such an amazing level for so long now you'd think anyone who picks up a cue and chalks it would know who he is. He knows a lot of pro's so I'd bet he's heard the name.
I played Waterdog often in Chicago around the turn of the century. Mr. Rogan is correct about his phenomenal pool skill. Once watched him tear through the best Chicago pool players in a nine ball tournament. At the time his break was mediocre, but his position play and potting abilities were unparalleled. RIP Don Edwards aka Waterdog.
I used to play with him at Chris's Billiards.
Weird thing is you can't find nothing on him. I can't even find a video of him in 1981 Chicago championship. Nothing. Only thing I can find is a Wikipedia about him but it makes him out to be a normal guy
Yes, indeed. And buddy didn't care. Lol. I miss my friend. He was so dam good
One of Chris billiards best. And it was John the Greek. Not george
I bartender in a pool-hall in the mid/late 90's and what Joe described occurred almost every weekend... Such characters and personalities would show up and try to out hustle each other out of whatever they could.... Pool, cards, dice, flipping coins.... I watched a guy lose $100 trying to pitch peanuts into a shot glass, lol. Fun times indeed!!!
My friend used to go in and play the really good players in the pool hall. He played well 9 ball he was a homeless street kid teenager and they would let him win they were actually some pretty good people's!!!
Can confirm this is true we used to bet on EVERYTHING. One time my buddy bet another guy on the outcome of a female mma fight. The funny thing was that the fight was not live it had actually happened months before. Easiest money ever haha
You were the peanut thrower man admit it
I saw a guy throw a quarter into the coin slot of a pay phone on the wall from 5 paces He busted the who busted the whole room
We used to bet on who would get the white gum ball out of the candy machine $20 a man 😂😂. Man i miss those days
I wish Rogan interviewed players like Earl, CJ Wiley, Scott Frost, Rodney Morris or Alex Pagulayan. Would be so interesting listening to road stories on hustling and gambling and sleeping in the car in random cities
And Jimmie Matya
John Schmidt
He had the 600+ straight pool record
And he does commentary for straight pool
John would be perfect
Agree! I think the new up in comers, live a completely different lifestyle, then the one's we had, growing up in the pool hall!
@@bad2mx ol
That’s what we need 🫡
I got a cousin that’s about 5ft tall. He is ridiculously good at playing pool. Like, he should have been playing professionally. After he turned 21 he got into drinking really hard. To the point we would enter a tournament and by the halfway point he would be passed out drunk. His brother would go over and wake him up and hand him a cue and he would run the table. He won tournaments without knowing it was even over yet. I saw him go in and start a tab and win just so he could pay it off… it drove people crazy. People would actually try to bully him around because of his size and being so wasted and we would have to handle it. They tried to say his height was why, so he played on a crate one handed. The messed up part is he used the alcohol to get away from his perception of his height keeping him from leading a normal life. He had a great personality when he was sober and had no issues charming women. He just can’t escape the alcohol. I tried playing pool while really drunk but I could barely stand at the table.
Sounds like a guy I knew named Philip M.
I used to only play when drinking I had to relearn pool all over again.
I wish ya'll would change the thumbnail with Buddy Hall. Buddy is not a drug addict. He's a legend and as legit as they come.
In his day it was alcohol, somehow it seemed more human...
Yeah that threw me for a loop too. I know Buddy personally. Lives in the same town. That man hasn't done any drugs.
@@figmentofyourimagination5359Alcohol is a hell of a drug
I lost a few hundred on $10 games that were always close vs Mr hall
I played in a BCA all American tournament in 1998 and he showed up late and registry was over. He walked around to every person that entered and asked if they cared if he bought someones spot in the tourney. We all ended up agreeing and he bought my friends spot for $100. He ended up winning the tournament for around $600 playing with a stealth cue. The bathroom story is 100% true. I saw Waterdog play two other times sober and he lost bad both times. That man had a crazy life story from when he was very young. He could have been one of the best.
I spent an enormous amount of time in George the Greeks club in White Plains when I was in college. Place was beautiful. He was a pool mentor to me and would regularly let me stay after hours and would give me personal lessons. Always very kind and generous to me. RIP.
Love these episodes where Joe is really passionate about the subject and knows the lingo and all the technicalities. Fucking fascinating to watch
My uncle Johnny Morrow never played pro because he didn't like the rules. But he played in Vegas and was based mostly out of Texas. He would play all the champions, before their matches for practice etc. He was really good. But he was a REALLLLLLLY big heroin addict. I mean... getting tore out of the frame before he played a match. This story is eerily familiar to my uncles. Its like, borderlinenceeepy to me. The last match he won, he walked away with a white Cadillac, and $280,000....... this was in 1996 or 97? They found my uncle dead on the floor in his hotel room, his girlfriend, the cash, and the Cadillac were gone. There were 2 needles in his arm. No one knows for sure to this day but what it looks like is probably what it is... js.
Rest in peace Johnny Morrow
Joe's story telling is very under appreciated...had me laughing the whole time.
The problem is he has like 10 stories and he tells them over and over again...
Dude needs to get out of his gated community in Austin and live in the real world again
thats his job tho 😂
@AVN blåå yeah you're right....I've actually heard this story before but it's still pretty good.
really? i found it completely boring and focused on stupid details.. the guest seemed bored too hahaha
As a recovering opiod/heroin addict, that's the 1 thing I miss is the absolute lack of any nerves whatsoever. The only time I ever got the least bit nervous was when I thought I was going to die from my blood pressure dropping & breathing becoming absolutely labored to the point where if I fell asleep (as it's often impossible not to) I wasn't going to wake up. I used to play poker a-lot on dope &/or pills & I would either play like a God or call off chips w/marginal hands & lose, so essentially I'd break even a lot of the time. Now that I'm off it all, you sort of learn to enjoy feeling normal emotions & sensations again, & it's almost as overwhelming to have these kinds of feelings again as pins & needles & a hard nod from opiates but I still remember w/some fondness those days where I felt nothing but oblivious calm & what is *_the_* ultimate form of relaxation. It unquestionably ruined more than 1/3rd of my life that I've been trying to rebuild over the last few years, but back in the midst of it, it all sorta seemed worth it...
*Edit:* I feel like I should clarify, because I don't want anyone who might read this to think i'm glorifying or encouraging opioid use. When i say that I never felt any sensations of nervousness or anxiety, that only applies to when I had them. When I ran out, or couldn't find them, it was the exact opposite multiplied by 100 once w/drawl took over, where all that anxiety or stress I had run away from by getting high came back w/a vengeance, along w/an inability to go to sleep, nor enjoy any semblance of comfort for even a brief moment until I snorted or shot-up some more. It's also not remotely sustainable, because the more often you use opioids, the more of a tolerance you build up to them, until it gets to a very dark point where (In my case), I was having to come up w/, &/or spend upwards of at-least $100 a day just to satisfy the insatiable desire & relentless burden that is addiction - that goes especially when you're barely making that much at your job, or worse you're unemployed as it's pretty difficult to hold down a job, when you can't pass a drug test nor can you function at anything close to a necessary level w/out having something to eliminate the w/drawls. That specific cycle will inevitably lead anyone in that spot to searching for a cheaper alternative, & because the cost of pain pills had inflated to all-time high, more & more of my friends were switching over to H, & it had suddenly exploded In prevalence w/in the scene & throughout the community, that I decided it was the logical next step in my downward-spiral. While heroin is much cheaper alternative to pharmaceutical opiods, It's also so incredibly easy to overdose on, because it's basically a guessing game of Russian roulette figuring out the right dosage to use, & that is why all of those friends I mentioned, who, once I had committed to trying & get off of it, I had to distance myself from, because they continued to use heroin & eventually fentanyl, have all (but a couple) died as a result. I'm not exaggerating, while i was going through the long, painful & arduous process of recovery, more than 30 of my closest friends & family; 2 of them my best friends on the planet, 1 of them an ex-girlfriend who I never stopped loving, another my aunt whom I loved & adored, & several other close friends - I watched all of them die around me as a result. Not that it's really important or relevant to my point, & I don't want this to be a complete bummer, but seeing all of my friends die after I'd essentially abandoned them leaves me w/a huge amount of what's been referred to as _"survivor's guilt",_ & misplaced anger where I feel like I need someone to blame, but there is no-one directly responsible. I also don't feel as if I deserved to live anymore than they deserved to die.
The point of my rant is that there isn't anything good that comes from opiod addiction, except maybe a harsh lesson demonstrating the darkest aspects of depression, anxiety, pain & regret/the human condition, & when I say it was _"the ultimate form of relaxation",_ that temporary relief from whatever issues I was suffering from comes w/a major detriment/cost, that it doesn't really fix anything, & ultimately only serves to compound upon everything that you're trying to avoid. After losing so many people I cared deeply for, along w/a chunk of my soul & several teeth, plus having nothing to show for over a decade of my life, I have learned my lesson, & I hope anyone who reads this, who may be going through it as I type these words finds the spark to realize that If I can beat it, so can you, or anyone for that matter. It will be the hardest thing you'll ever do, but the reward for that effort is a strength that will, no matter where you're at in life nor what you've done, work like body armor, & once you're past the most difficult part, there's nothing life can throw at you that you can't summon the willpower to overcome or accomplish. Life is filled w/double edged swords - they can cut you deep, or destroy you completely, but I *_promise_* you, *you,* right now, can find the strength to wrestle it away, kick life in the teeth, snatch that motherfucker up by the hilt, & wield it like a hell-bent knight in impenetrable armor. It's in you, & everyone else - you just have to be ready & willing to fight for it.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
Beautiful comment. You're an amazing soul on an important journey. Stay strong
I’m high as Fucks right now sucker.
😅Just a bad joke bud.
Someone was probably gonna do it-
May as well be a fellow eX H junkie.
Good stuff man.
I used to be on dope and i was a pool hustler. Me and my wife were both good on dope or straight but not having nerves is something i miss too. I’ve been clean since 05. Haven’t played pool since before that because i got clean in prison. I went in late 03 and got out December of 05. I quit doing anything i did before. Got rid of the wife, friends, all my old hang outs. Quit doing anything i did before. There’s no change without change.
I need amphetamines to get through that diatribe. Sometimes less is more
In 03 I saw Rogan playing pool at the pool hall / club cross street from Fenway.. I was with the group of friends he was with some comedians..
Joe shook everybody's hand talked to all of us, couldn't ask for a cooler dude..
In 03 Rogan wasn't that big a deal lol
It's the ice baths
@@jtaco4101 no he was just a TV star then🤔
Rack & Roll, great place near Fenway…at least it was, don’t know if it still there?
@@michaelbanks2401 What was he in back then, fear factor?
This is the best one yet. Getting Joe to tell stories is the shit.
Being an exaddict and musician. I can see sober people saying you can't judge distance and accuracy. If they only knew when you first start no. But after awhile whatever talent you have seems to be multiplied. I think because you don't inhibit yourself and certainly don't over think shit.i could do amazing awesome things high that I couldn't seem to duplicate sober. And I've certainly tried.
Don "Waterdog" Edwards. he used to live in his car down the street from Chris's Billiards in Chicago.
That’s really really interesting
A friend of mine lived on Windsor street just about 5 blocks away from Chris's Billiards. What years was that?
@@tyarnold4088 all through the 90's.
@Daveco82 OK i see. Chicago in the 90s was definitely a good place for someone like him. Thanks for the info.
Always love your shoes and stories. The variety of topics -there’s nothing else out there like it❤
Lol. I type fast and spellcheck doesn’t like me. I’ve never seen your shoes, but oh your SHOWS🤪
Nice pic of Buddy Hall....played with him in the 70s with Eddie Taylor.....
Joe you are the man I love this game and I’m so excited people are doing interviews about pool players
Dude. Get Tarantino for this movie .
I truly appreciate you bringing pool to your podcast. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hey Joe as a fan of billiard sports I think you should check out the British film about the hay day of snooker and it becoming a more main stream sport. It tells an incredible story about 2 of the best ever snooker players at that time and the dark side of addiction, also it has an incredible soundtrack from the same time period. For anyone interested the movie is called "The rack pack"
Enjoy .......
I just looked that movie up and at first a stupid movie with the same name about 3 military brats going on an adventure came up lol, but i found the one u were talking about
I love that Joe has all this experience that you would’ve never thought!!!
Growing up he was just the fear factor guy
This guy is so cultured
I really enjoy this
LMAO I'm not sure pool hall experience equates to "cultured."
@@Daveshotpocket 😂😂😂😂😂
One would think that if they fact check Joe Rogan and notice on some topics he is just repeating the popular opinion
Yeah or he just trying to explain a video he watched on TH-cam
Talks a lot of shit though. For one, heroin doesn't dilate the pupils, it does the opposite
Efren Reyes is still the best pool player of all time. Joe should do an interview with him.
Efren is shy and can't speak English very well. Earl would be a way better guest.
Really got into the pool scene when I was in junior high. Spent hours there. Many unsavory characters and drugs being thrown around. Learned so much with the older guys.
I played on a family team in Vegas last year. The first day I played subpar, missing shots I normally make. Day 2 a couple of things happened: 1) I started getting a glass of whisky to sip on during my matches, and 2) I got a pep talk from the goat of women’s pool, Allison Fisher. Played way better, and by the third day I won like 13 of 15 games I played, and the two I lost I felt I should’ve won.
My BAC has to be at just the right level to play at my best. Sober or too low I overthink, and too high I start taking silly risks. 😂
I used to be an addict. And not gonna lie its awesome until its not. I still think about it dream about all the time. No regrets though. Had good and bad times. Life takes you to some weird places sometimes but you can come back. Love you Joe!
Don't go back, I'm still in the grips of H addiction after being 'normal' for over 2 years. Not good...
@@duncanfoley509 go to the local smoke shop, by a bag of kratom
Get off H my man
It’s not worth it
But it is sooooo gooood!
Yeah I used to be an alcoholic. It was awesome until I started to depend on it and get progressively more drunk because I had to drink more as my tolerance grew and started doing dumb things.
Joe with the MIV Supra? New respect.
That is exactly why I quite playing pool for money. The guys using drugs to steady the nerves were too hard to beat.
Plus they would never want to quit
Tweaking steadies nerves?
@@markklippenberg7364 coke, meth and speed would
@@markklippenberg7364 well the cocaine will gives them some new life. In my experience I'd be playing someone on coke and I'd start winning and they would go to the bathroom and come back shooting like God again. It refreshes them and they can keep playing forever. Mix a little alcohol and that will ease their nerves that the speed may bring. These guys usually use the right combo that makes them play at peak level.
I can play drunk out of my mind ,but can't shoot for shit sober
That's a pretty good interview. More people need to interview Rogan.
Funny that they have a picture of buddy hall 😂 he’s our house pro in Paducah where I live. Still playing great
What's in the water in Kentucky? Buddy Hall, Nick Varner, Skyler all Champions..♥️🙏🇺🇸
@@chrisp.9172 the water in Kentucky is highly concentrated with meth, and I assure you buddy hall doesn’t drink water only diet rite and Oreos, to this day. So without the methamphetamine intake he relies on oxycodone to keep him playing like a champ 😂😂 just joking, kinda.
@@austinaugustus5158 maybe that's why they have the fastest horses! LoL
Fedor is awesome to watch !!!! his precision is fantastic !!!!!
Wimpy Lassiter was a friend of my family growing up in Elizabeth City he was an amazing player no drugs needed.
“I watch a man shoot pool for an hour. If he misses more than one shot, I know I can beat him.”
Luther “Wimpy” Lassiter
I learned how to play pool by playing old junkies at this little hole in the wall called the hideout. All the old school cats from north Sacramento would know this place. Rough neighborhood, colorful caritures, 50 cent games, and a great jukebox. Good times!
I can't believe they're talking about executive billiards in white plains, i went there all the time on mamaroneck Avenue when id get out of work at starbucks!!! I got to know one of the owner managers nicknamed HOLLYWOOD! !! Besides playing pool, they had the awesome marvel vs capcom two arcade there!!!
VERNON ELLIOT, is the best unknown player ever. If you don't believe ask C.J. Wiley....Vernon never played in tournaments, He waited for the winner, an played them for whatever ....THIS IS GREAT......Fedor on Rogan........PLEASE help billards.
Joe: I love your channel! You are a "pool of knowledge" Much respect and keep doing what your doing!!!
Hello from UpState, NY. . .if you ever go to Saratoga horse track. . .please reach out to me. My wife & I would love to chill w/you !!!
Happy new year Joe.
Executive Billiards was the place in White Plains I grew up there spent many nights there as young adult the Greek was a great man
“Khuntzlaa!!!” 😂😂
That Totter story Joe was talking about is straight outta the movie “Easy money”....Hilarious movie
Well we wouldn’t even have 80’s metal if it weren’t for drugs.
My love for pool started in middle school. Used to get suspended all the time cause I thought it was cool. So I had all day to watch espn. Watched the and one mix tapes and Karen korr and Allison fisher just match after match. I was absolutely hooked on watching those women play.
Played for probably 15 years a few hours a day after that. Played some leagues in colorado for a bit and just got burnt out on the rules. Dam slop crap.
Love billiards!!
Lol I played league was alright but just couldn't get consistent people would accuse me of purposefully doing it to change my rating! I went years not playing and then played my friend who used to regularly gamble at pool and did well and did and 8 ball break and ran the balls the other games I don't think I ever played as well it was a fluke of a night!
You’d get suspended from school for thinking something is cool? Was Miss Trunchbull running it or sumn?
Oh boy...grew up on a 9 foot table....drank a lot of free beer in college....these stories remind me of the after hours bars I went to 45 years ago....
As a former heroin addict I can tell you 100% that all it does is take away your nerves you have zero nerves you're not nervous about anything you're not worried about anything your're calm you don't shake it's best case scenario as far as form goes so if you're a good pool player it gives you that extra little cheat code that makes you unstoppable but you've got to be a good pool player to begin with it won't turn somebody shitty into somebody good
yea tbh i never really found opiates to impair me as much as people think. when i was using, i would actually receive praise at my job from how good i was doing
I've seen Waterdog around LA about 20 years ago! He could barely walk, but he could still play!♥️🙏🇺🇸
🎭Hard Times 🎭 was the hangout for my crew in the late 90’s- early 2000’s. Never knew the names to most of the faces , but I was fortunate to witness some wild matches. Unfortunately for most, a clean turbo Supra is going for 100k+. 2jz the world!
I used to love to go up for 1st Sunday tournaments! $30 entry, a chance at $700--$1000. Always a few Champions, Parica, Morro, Efren if he was in town. In the latter years,Oscar, Mika, Rodney Morris, Santos. Eberle, Ernesto.. I used to love to match up with the best, and my strategy was to play loose and fire away! Put them on their heels a little bit. Had a good long match with Rodney a few years back, had a few chances to get on the hill first in a 5/6 match, must have taken a good hour, I'll get close, but no Cigar! Now the place is just a memory, wonder where the good players go now? ♥️🙏🇺🇸
Lol Joe explaining how cool a Supra is
Great story joe, I remember those Supra , awesome car
Pupils would be super tiny and “pinned” if he was doing heroin.
Joe sent me on a research excursion, reading up on Water Dog, Donnie Edwards. You read stories of people seeing him play in NY, Chicago, Detroit, SanFrancisco.
Sounds like he was the devil lol
My sweet spot was about 4 drinks in and 4 lines, couldn't miss
Joe, Waterdogs real name I believe was Don Edwards. He was from Waterbury, Conn. when playing high few could beat him, however when not lit he was a dog. Hence the nickname "Waterdog". He played in my room in Milw., always needing a sponsor for about a year in the late 90's. Sad, he was quite talented on a pool table.
This story reminds me of doc Ellis pitching the no-no on LSD
Reminds me of the stories of Monster John
In the early 80s every time a player went to the bathroom I had to give them the wipe your nose sign. One famous player won a big tournament and they decided to interview his wife. lol, real pretty girl but she was somewhere in outer space at the time and eventually started crying , it was hilarious.
I've never heard Heroin described as an "ability enhancing drug"... like NEVER. Anytime I saw someone do it, it looked like the COMPLETE opposite.
Get Efren and an interpreter on the show...saw Efron in the 80's in my dad's pool hall...sitting next to his backer "wing ding"... fascinating times
Waiting for Joe to tell us about the time he was hanging out with Dean, Sammy, and Frank at the Sands!…😆🤣😂
In harness racing, you HAVE to pull back on your horse and lose a position if your horse breaks the required stride. That’s probably what happened. I remember thinking the drivers were cheating when they would do this. Harness racing horses don’t gallop all out, they run as either pacers or trotters, which are specific strides.
And that kids, is what they call “peer pressure “. Probably one of my favorite Rogan clips
I knew somebody like this but with alcohol he could be hammered drunk barely able to walk but he would stand up, clear a table then tell the guy to buy him another beer
My uncle owns one of the biggest pool halls here in Fayetteville North Carolina called the little Reno. They have bar size tables 9 foot tables. You know there was this kid that I grew up with. I won’t say his name but he started playing pool really young right before he got out of high school And he was so good he was beaten grown men by the time he graduated for money..He would play matches but it was like thousands on the table and then he got hooked on cocaine next crack and it was all downhill from there.
Was it Johnny Hamchek?
Bar size tables are not 9foot tables. Bar tables are between 7.5 feet to 8.5 feet. Someone who supposedly grew up in a pool room like I did would know that. So don't believe anything in this post. Plus people that actually were in that crowd knows what happens in the pool room stays in the pool room. Lying just to call someone you didn't know an addict, class act my man.
@@butter7734wtf
Anyone Remember the original pod with Joey Diaz and Lee where Joe first tells this story?
Heroin makes the pupils small, not big
It's not that drugs make you better, it's that you can't function properly without them when your addicted.
Good point..👍🏻
take a look at Alex the hurricane Higgins a northern Irish snooker player who partied hard even while playing snooker at the highest level
I hate the fact that I can't watch videos of his full podcasts on Spotify.
White Plains New York bunch of Maniacs back then 🤘🏻😁
Buddy Hall was one of the best
I used to be like that with work. That’s why I got addicted in the first place. From the first time I worked high on opiates that was it.
just like your dad
Same. Alot of people think you just zombify, BUT on that stuff I could just keep painting houses ALL day without pain etc. Glad I'm clean now though as it desensitises EVERYTHING. Sunlight no longer feels warm, cold wind doesn't chill, everything is about staying high or getting sick.
Yeah it actually amps me up and acts more like a upper for me
@@ferguson8143 Yea me too in small doses. Ppl don't realize everyone doesn't nod out from it
@@ferguson8143worked with a guy at a paper mill who would take tramadol every day and he would get so jacked off it. Strangest shit ever
2007, Green Tortoise hostel, San Francisco. I was on Magic Mushrooms , after every shot I just laughed and laughed and asked if I was stripes or spots!? 😂 But I could not miss! It was like a grid came over the table! MAD.
I’m now a heroin addict 😔 but I’ve not paid pool for years. I grew up in a social club playing pool whilst the adults drank, I was pretty good! But not THAT good!? 🤷♂️ Mushrooms made me AMAZING!
Heroin, once you need it, you can’t do much without it 😔 IT’S SHIT, BUT THE SHIT TOO!??🤷♂️🤩😩😂😭
Stuck in the BS.
Just play pool, leave the drugs out of it 👍
Heroin is for weaklings
@@GOOCHIElicker I hear you. I think it’s a bit more complicated than that!
But, yeah, there’s an element of ‘ ah fuck it ‘ that perhaps a ‘ stronger ‘ person would be more resilient 🤔
I feel like a little kid listening to my dad tell a cool story.
We need more more more pro pool players..
I knew a guy I met him in the street when I lived a different life he was a pro pool player and a homeless crack addict the guy was a mess but he could still play and beat almost anyone he played against some of the greats his demons got the best of him he never reached his potential but the guy had talent
This reminded me of the time when I went for a run on LSD and just couldn't get tired
i used to be warned about cops taking cars for drug deals lmao i never believed it
Joe should do a series interviewing ex drug addicts who became successful
This might joes best story
With those players the drugs might give an edge but I would say the thing is that the withdrawals would give a waaay bigger downside so that's why they couldn't play. If your muscles twitch and are tense from being anxious, back contorting into a ball while hurting from everywhere, eye-sight blurry, you ain't going to shoot sh!t. It's not that they couldn't play sober but who could play good at withdrawals (which I don't equate to being sober since you ain't in a normal state, makes some stories like this sound like something is missing).
When I did heroine the only thing I was good at was losing my job.
My father hitch hiked across USA is the 1970s hustling pool.
Pool is the perfect sport to play while intoxicated.
Joe rogan mobbed around in LA in a supra?? Bruhh thats too badass
Waterdog's name was Donnie Edwards.
Methadone ate up his body and he died in a nursing home in Aug of 2006.
I played him in detroit bar in the late 70's , he was from Waterbury , Conn. and he gave me a lesson in pool !
Pupils get smaller off of opioids not larger like described in this story
@@turdferguson4007 Yes, fucktard. But I actually took the time to look him and his death up. You just talk shit like a moron.
Now, go try to sound informed somewhere where facts don't matter.
You're honestly stupid.
@@turdferguson4007 maybe he was doing speedball
@@worldsdumbesttrumpturd....3143 That might make your pupils large I’m not to sure on that. I would still think the opiates would override the speed but I’m not to sure.
WaterDog I know very well, play at Chris's Billards, Mr Rogan is correct, there is a very nice article about WaterDog in the Chicago Reader
Like old pool halls, full of mean cats, then the cigarette ban indoors.. barely any pool players nowadays.
If you close your eyes this is a family guy skit with Peter trying to convince someone to do drugs acting like he’d never do drugs but yet it’s so “curious” to him
What a great story!
I played in a tournament in Hudson, N.C. a few years back and lost to a guy who ran around the table like he was on fire. He told me he had just won a tournament in Virginia and then drove for 12 hours to get to the tournament in North Carolina on time. He had not slept in 36 hours so it was obvious to me that he was juiced up on something. If you want to make a living at pool, this is how you keep going.
a guy in a pool hall once asked me , c mon do you wanna play , c mon .......... 20 times in 2 min. he couldn t sit still while i am playing. after he lost 150 bucks he said he could n t pay me. just said, pay the table cokehead and get out of my face. boy i was pissed but he wasn t alone. aaahhh memories
Can’t gamble on pool around here anymore. Or not “supposed too”. So much that they don’t even let you put quarters up for next game because it can be showed as gambling money for pool. They had a white board or chalk board to write your name instead.
That’s one of my dream cars too joe !!
pupils don't get big on heroine though, they pin point.
It is .... Wonderful
Man Joe is right, I played golf with a guy who bought that same Supra. He let me drive it just once, best description isfelt like roaddog on herion driving that car!
Well who is not a drug addict anyways?
If you get to the age of 10 and not become a drug addict (cigarettes, alcohol, weed, coke, heroin, pharmaceuticals, TRT, other PEDs, coffee, nicotine etc.), then you are an EXCEPTION.
Breediot ‘logic’, ‘ethics’, ‘morality’, ‘rationality’: ’’The birth of my son was unsurprisingly the most significant event in my life so far. I have cherished every instant of his life. He has given my life an intense meaning and purpose. I feel an overwhelming need to provide him with as much happiness as he has brought me. That said, life comes with suffering. To shield him from all suffering would ultimately cause a great deal of suffering in itself. Raising children, if done properly constitutes a truly heroic act of love and patience. The real challenge then becomes raising a child with sincere intention and balance. To decide not to have children simply because that child will inevitably endure suffering is in my opinion, an asinine and twisted bit of logic.’’--------Nah, you are the one with the twisted logic. Romanticising suffering as overcoming a challenge and being heroic. Lol, there was no need to overcome any of that but u decided to create a problem out of thin air to satisfy your own ego.
No existence = not having to deal with useless and overcompetitive school system
No existence = not having to fight for good colleges, which have less than 5% selection rate
No existence = not having to fight for exploitative jobs, and be overworked and underpaid
No existence = not having to deal with unemployment
No existence = no possibility of meeting with an accident and getting your limb amputated
No existence = not having to deal with diseases like asthma and diabetes, which degrade quality of life
No existence = not having to see your loved ones struggle with terminal illnesses and die
No existence = not having to die a slow and painful death due to cancer, paralysis, etc.
NO EXISTENCE = NO PROBLEMS
this world is pure desire. but the desire causes slavery. imagine a woman who has compulsive sex drive that puts her in risky situations because of trying to satisfy some implanted biological need. she could be robbed and stabbed at a truck stop while trying to make a deal with a gigolo. the world creates situations that are destructive all at the base desire of our drives. if sin exist, it is borne from things created by the creator themselves in order to keep a perpetual motion machine churning.
“Boring damned people. All over the earth. Propagating more boring damned people. What a horror show. The earth swarmed with them. At the age of 25 most people were finished. A whole god-damned nation of assholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidate who reminded them most of themselves.” ― Charles Bukowski
Lol Joe always mentioning his Supra 😂 I would do the same though
From my own experience as a heroin addict!! ..IM NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT POOL AT THE MOMENT ......don't EVER fuck with an ADDICT.
Figures joe had a nice mk4 ide like to see him get another one and go all out with it
Oh my god it’s so surprising that people who hung around in pool halls gambling for a living, get hooked on drugs.
Great car . Gotta love a straight 6 turbo.